EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[T2 BPOs, T3 in March, and How It Affects Our Markets - by LadyOfWrath]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=965324
It has already been stated new resources leading to T3 will be found through exploring wormholes. These wormholes will be located using new technology to be fit along the lines of exploration. As we all well know from the Trinity release it takes time to saturate the market from items needed through exploration. In the case of Interfaces (which are not consumed) it took many months for their price to drop to an acceptable level for the greater player population. The same can be said for decryptors. Should T3 components be found on this scale it will create opportunities only for the rich to get even richer and be able to effectively control the new T3 markets. If, on the other hand, these new item are available on the scale salvage was a more dynamic market will arise in which many players will participate creating more competition. No matter which way we see it go it will still come down to the laws of supply and demand.

As we know these new T3 ships will NOT use T2 ships in their construction we also know as the player base ages T3 will eventually become the norm such as T2 is today. How will that affect your T2 Ship BPO? I leave that up to you to decide. These BPOs are still collectors item as there will never be anymore of them. This alone helps them retain their current values. Resellers continue to drive their value upwards, more players have ISK to purchase them creating more competition making it a sellers market, and most of all there is always a demand on the market for many of these T2 items.

What are your thoughts and opinions of our upcoming T3 industry? Feel free to use this as an open discussion.
]]> Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9517830 <![CDATA[[CRTF] End Of Month Report - December - by evn7289]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=965202
It is time for the end of month report for the month of December. I will make this short and to the point.

Total Month Income - 5.7 billion
Total Month Expenses - 4.7 billion
Gross Month Profits - 1.0 billion
Total Number of Shares - 65
Total Worth of Shares - 6.5billion
Total Dividend Payout - 383.5 million
Net Profit - 616.5 million

Reinvestment plan - Profits are being reinvested directly into the market buying the fuels that we sell at below the sell value, which effectively lowers our prices below our competition, while keeping profits high.

Notes and Thoughts - What I have found over the last month is that 25% of the income I have made have been coming from one time buyers, buying 3-6 months worth of the fuel. While this is very good income, the sale comes in only once or twice per year. The majority of the IPO's income comes from our monthly buyers. We currently have six monthly clients, who make up 75% of the total income. The best part about this sales spread is that the income is steady.

Future Expansion - Currently I am looking into expanding into capital ship production. I have partnered up with some builders that I have met in my current PVP corporation that have agreed supplement the production that I already do personally. This means that my production ability has increased by over 400%. I also have access to all the dreadnoughts, carriers, fighters, as well as fittings. I have setup a "store" on the Eve forums to make it easier to find my products. CRTF Capital Shop This expansion will directly benefit all shareholders as it will diversify the ways the corporation brings in ISK.

Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
evn7289
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9516784 <![CDATA[Skill book trading - by Odyessus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964759
So basically im offering my services to corps/alliances, to bring skill books in your area. which skills would you be interested in, and where would you like them placed on sale?

ody]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:10:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9513657 <![CDATA[[#2] Arcelor Capital's Market Report - Week ending January 3rd - by Joseph Shephard]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964748 Arcelor Capital's

Market Report

December 28th 2008 to January 3rd 2009

*** Welcome to the 2nd Weekly Summary Report of the Eve Market Discussion Forum ***


In this issue...

  • A Week of Rankings Brings in the New Year on MD Discussion

  • Bonds vs. IPOs Debated

  • Hauling vs. Trading: Rehashing the Great Debate

  • Entity ... Scammed?

  • IPO Update: Week of Dec 28th - Jan 3rd

  • XABIER'S Mineral Index



RANKINGS BRING IN THE NEW YEAR
From Trading Hubs to Investment Opportunities, Boredom with Family Prompts A New MD Obsession with Numeracy

Rankings were the rage in the MD Discussion forums this week as Christmas Turkey seemed to have traders in a more reflective mood. With multiple threads opened over the week (one simply asking if any exist) forum watchers could not help but put in for the fascinating read.

Jezala put the discussion to rest with this informed response:

Quote:
Jita - primary hub; distinguishes itself as being the only hub that can move T2 components

Rens - 2nd only to Jita; more independent of Jita influences than Amarr.

Amarr - 3rd. Similar to Rens but Amarr's proximity to Jita causes Amarr to be more sensitive to Jita fluctuations.

Dodixie - 4th. Due to the mission running system in and around Dodixie plus it's relative proximity to the major travel pipelines, Dodixie has outgrown Oursurlaert as the primary Gallente market hub.

Oursurlaert - 5th. Still an active market but has been on the decline. Oursurlaert serves as the center of the hub that has Orvolle and Stacmon as the spokes. The more informed traders will bypass Oursurlaert and go to Dodixie instead.

Hek - 6th. Lies between the Rens and Oursurlaert pipeline. Considered to be the secondary market hub for the Minmatar regions. It doesn't always have everything you need, but that market is healthy enough to support the local pvp and industrial economies.

Orvolle - 7th. Small hub that is critical to the market that serves Placid, Syndicate, and Cloud Ring. It's remoteness from the other major hubs makes Orvolle a popular trade hub as well as a major transit point.

Agil - 8th. Probably tied for 7th with Orvolle. Serves the same functions as
Orvolle except it serves the Querious, Stain, and Catch regions.


Of course, the best trade hubs weren't the only things ranked. The week found itself filled with ranking threads, including one asking for the objective "best" trader character (According to the EveHQ character builder "Goal Seek" function, the fastest training pure trader would be an Amarr, Ni-Kunni, Free Merchant, business, Entrepreneur, with C15,I5,M8,P7,W4 - who knew?)

Of course all of these ranking threads raise the question: if MD truly is "market PvP" why all the help? Ranking threads seem only to help the competition when it comes to making optimal selections. As the debate continues over whether to maintain the exclusivity of the MD forums, these answers seem to prove that newbies really can gain quite a bit seeking help in Market Discussion.

***



]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9513586 <![CDATA[how do i increase my trading income! - by General Newbold]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964722 At the moment i trade in NPC goods and the odd weapon if i fancy it.

Lets say for example i sell 10k units of garbage at a 15 isk profit per unit.

Thats not a good profit at all in my book as i could earn that by shooting a rat or 10

How do i really increase my NPC trade profit to make a decent sum. or is it not possible.

Also trading in weapons and ammo doesnt seem to harvest a huge profit either.

Anyone who has any advice that isnt suitable for public knowledge please contact me in game
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9513376 <![CDATA[Contract Tip - by Midas Man]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964689
When setting up a contract to sell goods it is often asked if you would use an Item Exchange or an Auction contract.

In my experiance Auction is always best.

The reason being alot of buyers see an Item Exchange contract as an Auction with no Buy out price.

I have sold numerous contracts at 10-25% above the lowest Item Exchange Contract.

Ie

Mod A has 3 Item Exchange contacts at 200mil
Place an Auction contract starting at 200mil and Buy out of 250mil.

A buyer will Buyout your contract thinking the other 3 are just auctions.

Tried and tested method, let nobody say I give nothing for free.

]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9513223 <![CDATA[calculating base price - by Loaby]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964434

also: when i run missions and only loot things during the mission and reprocess that stuff to use the minerals for manufacturing, how do i calculate these minerals i acquired with zero effort? can i say these minerals are free? or should i at least substract the potential isk i could have made by selling the item as it is or do i have to calculate the full materials prices that are in that module or just the price a mineral buyer would have given me?


so how the hell do i calculate the base price of a manufactured thing when i neither have to mine nor to buy minerals? i even dont have to spent time to acquire the minerals.
]]> Mon, 5 Jan 2009 01:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9511204 <![CDATA[fermionic condensates - by GHOSTMINER TOM]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964336 Sad
]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:52:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9510304 <![CDATA[wth is IPO? - by soldieroffortune 258]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964291
such a simple question, and probably simple answer, lol

TIA
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258


"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"






]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 22:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9510027 <![CDATA[im looking for a market/asset tool that will...... - by General Newbold]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964227 i could create a spreadsheet, but i thought i would go for the lazy option first, as the last time i created a tool i missed a few things off.

Im looking for something that will........

log my "tradeable" assets,including price paid and location (to be entered manually if needed), also to work out the "cargo space"
calculate profit, taking into account sales tax etc, (either from manual price entry or downloaded logs)


anything available thats already been done - i guess essentially its a "trade log"




]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9509514 <![CDATA[Jita Mineral Index gone? - by Caeli Maren]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964166 Edited by: Caeli Maren on 04/01/2009 19:13:39
I have not been able to access the Jita Mineral Index for the last couple weeks. Does anyone know what happened to it? Did it move, or close? Are there any good alternatives to it?

Edit: The link I have is http://eve.linkedlabs.com/jitaindex
]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:13:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9509077 <![CDATA[Trading hubs - by Sorath Anaaro]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=964095 ]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9508727 <![CDATA[Bored with my own trade style - by Marc Isabel]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963870
Although I spend a lot of time on pewpew being a Noir. mercenary, I do enjoy a bit of trade on an alt. It's handy too to get myself some isk to waste :)

Now my point is I have explored two forms of trade, and they both work for me. However, repeating the same trick gets tedious. They are these:
  • Half a year ago, I ran an industrial between an empire hub and a relatively safe 0.0 hub (CVA pet station), aiming for high profit margins both ways. Got ganked now and then, but the high margins and low operating costs (T1 haulers with T2 cargo expanders) made it profitable. Earned myself a total 1B in a few months time, starting as noob with nothing at all.

  • More recently, I have run between major Empire trade hubs. I choose two hubs, export data on high-turnover modules and small t2 ships to Eve-Central, compare price levels, then run goods both ways. Sell at a significant discount below market price to move the goods fast and avoid 1-isk games. This would usually turn 200M into 300M in a single day, before prices would level out between both hubs.
Now both of these work fine, earn me enough cash to do fun stuff. However, I'm looking for a new challenge, to explore another market. I'm looking for an idea. Could you give me pointers to any trade opportunities, without immediately giving away your trade secrets?

I've got about 350M working capital right now, but I would be willing to "grind trade" that into 1B if needed to enter another market. Also, since my primary task is pewpew, I'm not looking for 24/7 1-isk games.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
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]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9507394 <![CDATA[Sensor Cluster Units sale for 15% under the contained materials value - by Tres Farmer]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963705
Radar Sensor Cluster
Magnetometric Sensor Cluster
Ladar Sensor Cluster
(Gravimetric aren't used that much)

with the actual prices for their components, especially hypersynaptic fibres (10..11k/u), they're worth 15..20% more.

For example ladar sensor cluster:
build cost around 25,1k/u
sold for around 19,7k/u

why don't i capitalize on this by myself?
1) i allready did, but wont tie up more than 500M to this
2) i want these prices to adjust fast, as i also build those components
3) the whole sensor cluster component market in jita alone is worth 10bn and the ROI is somewhat of about 2-3 weeks for this trade, which i can't wait for
4) im a nice guy

have fun or not; end of transmission

Forge '07 on Sale
]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 07:30:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9506084 <![CDATA[Market for Mod Insurance? - by Aluin Chaput]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963638 Edited by: Aluin Chaput on 04/01/2009 04:53:50
With Concord Insurance still alive and kicking, any potential Insurance businesses need to go other routes. This is why I come to Mod Insurance... I believe it could have great potential. However I want to see MD's opinion on this, as I am only human, and therefor cannot see the full picture.


Here is a quick list of Pros and Cons for the business:

Pros:

* Potential to invest Customers ISK into market until a claim is made
* Large pool of potential Customers


Cons:

* Highly specialized software needed for verification on claims.
* High volatility in lifetime of Mods (seconds to months.)

]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 04:49:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9505502 <![CDATA[Lazy Whale is back! 3b bond - 2 months, 6% monthly. (Payed weekly) - by Lazy Whale]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963546 Lazy Whale Holdings IS BACK!

After our previous bond which succeeded, payed out interest and got all the shares back, we are now ready to expand.
Linkage to bond

In co-operation with Linia Corp were making this a 2 month bond and following their idea we will be paying weekly. This will let customers see their isk is growing instead of waiting a whole month Smile

The details will be brief as most is written there, same stuff will be done, same intrest rate, only a few changes.


Bond details:
The bond is for 3 billion - 3,000,000,000.00 isk
Each share is 1 million - 1,000,000.00 isk
The bond runs for 2 months, and interest is payed out weekly, each monday at 11pm.
The maximum of share you can buy is 1000 (1 billion).



The bond will start monday 5th january 11pm, given that all 3000 shares is sold, else we will have to say it starts tuesday and make the divident pay out early Wink



List of reservations:
Your name here
Your name here
Your name here
Your name here
Your name here
Your name here
Your name here


To invest:
1. Write here how many, then send isk to Lazy Whale
2. Send isk right away (on monday 5th.), I will then send shares accordingly if theres any left. Should there not be, I will return the isk.

If a new audit is needed, I will go hug Xabier again, but he already audited last one so I hope it wont be needed this time.


Buy away Smile
]]> Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:42:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9504535 <![CDATA[Technology used by EBANK for logging transactions? - by ShadowandLight]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963462

]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:24:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9503717 <![CDATA[How would I go about getting audited? - by Trade Reaper]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963303
What do I need to do to be audited? any advice is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:30:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9502598 <![CDATA[(#34 - 2008.12) BMBE Shareholder Report - by TornSoul]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=963175
BMBE.BIG-EVE.com


  • Points of interest

  • The numbers



This is the 34th BMBE shareholder report


Points of interest

FIN buyback

[FIN] Official buyback announcement
FIN has bought back all it's shares.
This was done at 10K ISK per share, well above the listed valie of 6.5K in the BMBE portfolie.
This increases the BMBE NAV rather substantially (close to 10%), and even more importantly, has added much needed extra liquid ISK to the BMBE.

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Bonds

Even with the FIN buyback, BMBE ran out of liquid ISK a couple of times during the month of december.
Two bond offerings where made to acquire extra funds
[BMBE] 50B ISK bond#1 - Sold Out.
[BMBE] [BMBE] 50B ISK bond#2 @3% (straight buy - no auction) - CLOSED

Only the first bond offering where met in full.
The second ran into quite alot of off-topic forum flack and kind of got derailed, and ended up only raising 5B ISK.
The total thus being 55B ISK.

As luck would have it, two BMBE client have made some rather substantial downpayments, large enough for me to be able to close the second bond offering.
So perhaps not so bad that it didn't sell afterall.
Currently no bonds are being offered.

As a footnote : Had BMBE had enough ISK on hand, not needing to issue bonds (and endure the interest cost), this would have been a record month for the BMBE shareholders.

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Treasury stock

During december a plee went out to the BMBE shareholders (via a mock vote), to buy more shares, from the treasury stock, in order to increase BMBE ISK capital.
Not many did so... Initially only 14 shares sold.
At the end of the month one single transaction of 120 shares was made though.
Injecting much needed +10B ISK into BMBE.
This invester has (on paper) made 1B ISK, simply by acquiring the shares, due to the near 10% raise in BMBE NAV this month

I must confess that I had thought other BIG rollers, would seize the same oppertunity.
In last shareholder report it was made clear that the FIN shares had been sold at 10K ISK, instead of the BMBE portfolie listed 6.5K ISK value.
This represent a 7.5B ISK increase in NAV right there...
December was definatly the time to grab some BMBE shares Wink.



BIG Lottery]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:47:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9501761 <![CDATA[I'd like to invest, what do u recomend? - by Lamanam]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962886 Edited by: Lamanam on 03/01/2009 07:36:31
I'm looking to invest some of my hard earned isk. However, just like in RL i'm really not good at investing, its just not my thing. Any recomendations? whats worked for you? etc.
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 07:35:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9499695 <![CDATA[DATAC - by ChiTrade]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962871
Anyone have any news on this IPO? When is the next payout due?

Thanks
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:51:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9499566 <![CDATA[[SHRAP] Financial Reports - December 2008 - by nether void]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962854
Without further ado, attached are Shrapnel Industries' Financial Reports for December 2008.

December 2008

Feedback is always appreciated.
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]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9499562 <![CDATA[BULSH 3.0 - 1.75% Weekly, 4b Isk, 6 weeks. - by Stardust CEO]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962703 Previous Postings:
BULSH - The Beginning
BULSH 1.5
More BULSH

Background:
After the successful completion of my opening bond, and the following expansions, I have bought back all B-Shares, leaving me with only my original handful of A-Shareholders. Thank you to all of my investors. Brock still has my API information, and for continuity purposes he will remain my auditor.

The Plan:
My business plans have not changed, I just have a bigger toolbox. I have added a third friend to the team, with whom I've worked before, and with whom I'm excited to work again. Please, if you are unfamiliar with my previous postings, at least glance over them. Thank you. I look forward to your questions.

The Details:
I am asking for four billion isk. I'd like to sell these in C-Shares, priced at 10m per share, paying 1.75% interest per week. I am choosing not to limit how many a single investor can buy. This expansion is planned to run until Feb 21st. Shares sold before January 10th will receive their first payout January 17th.

The Purchase:
Purchase of shares is open to A-Shareholders exclusively, until 0000 Eve Time, January 4th.
Purchase of shares is open to A-Shareholder and former B-Shareholders until 0000 Eve Time, January 5th.
Purchase of shares is open to the public beginning 0000 Eve Time, January 6th.

In order to purchase shares, simply post here reserving them. I will note you as reserved. Once the isk is sent to Stardust CEO, I will note you as paid.
Note - The shares will not be tracked in-game, rather, in this post, as previously tracked.
]]> Sat, 3 Jan 2009 00:51:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9498333 <![CDATA[Monthy reports help needed. - by Lord Coal]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962608
I know how to make the isk, just all thumbs when it comes to the word templates and earnings report.

I would appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.

Thank you in advance and feel free to post here or send me eve mail.


]]> Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:58:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9497467 <![CDATA[A few Question On Trading/Marketing - by RunTrade]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=962530
1. If I Was dealing with a load of contract and i wanted to get my sales tax lowered could i get standing with the faction who own the station im trading in with? and would it lower my tax?

2. The Skill book 'accounting' does it only apply to market orders only or contracts as well?
]]> Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:11:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/9496877