EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Sun, 19 May 2013 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by IIshira]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1341672#post1341672 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
The reason I am hesitant to do L4's in my Drake is that it is passive tanked - I dont have a "panic button" like the Cap booster/shield booster solution. Don't know if this really makes a difference when playing, but in my mind it does.
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With a drake you don't need a "panic button". The shields will SLOWLY go down and you can at your leisure warp away. With a Raven your shields will go down quickly and if you run out of cap you will die quickly. I won't try to talk you out of a Raven if you really have your heart set on a raven then by all means go with it.

I would recommend you have decent shield tanking, drone and missile skills but that is a choice you will have to make.

If you're doing level 3's that have mostly frigates the cruise missiles will suck. Maybe fit a target painter? I've never tried a level 3 in a battleship.

Good luck!]]> Tue, 22 May 2012 22:25:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16315088 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Tenga Halaris]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1301692#post1301692
You can do 3-6 Missions per hour, also decline the ones that take to long and get bad rewards.

Every 16 Missions or so, you get a storyline, which if you're lucky, means that you instantly get an implant.



Considering I do 3 average Missions in a 0.5 - 0.6 system:


15000 LP
Bounty: 15-20 mil

Even with a bad conversion of 1000 ISK / LP you will get around 30-35 mil per hour.

If you are really fast and can convert the LP at a 2000 to 1 ratio, 60 mil avg is no Problem in highsec at all.]]> Tue, 15 May 2012 07:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16274110 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1297722#post1297722 aasdgfsad wrote:
July Oumis wrote:

I know it's a lot, but if you don't get around 30 mil/h (including LP) in level 4 missions


How can you make around 30 mil/h ????


That's fairly simple to do TBH. It's all about efficiency and your skills. Know the missions (i.e. triggers, spawns, etc...) and have the proper skills/fit to maximize your output in whatever you're flying.

Where you're missioning is also a notable factor.

High Sec: Less risk of gank, but also lower mission rewards (isk and LP). In high sec, your best bet is to pick a spot with a large number of L4 security agents in close proximity to one another. Be selective in terms of which missions you run. With 4+ agents, you will almost always have one of them pop something decent. Do the best mission available and full clear it (bounties + loot/salvage). That entire process should take less than an hour and will likely net you in the neighborhood of 30M isk for your efforts.

Low/Null Sec: Blitz. With isk and LP rewards higher from agents in lower security space, you are better served blitzing everything. Focus fire on triggers to unlock gates. Focus down the mission completion targets and then GTFO. You will often need a fairly powerful tank in order to take the incoming DPS while you focus on completion targets/triggers. This is simply a matter of reading missions reports and fitting properly.]]> Mon, 14 May 2012 14:37:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16270331 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Daniel Plain]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1296884#post1296884 aasdgfsad wrote:

How can you make around 30 mil/h ????

like a boss]]> Mon, 14 May 2012 11:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16269548 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by aasdgfsad]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1296328#post1296328 July Oumis wrote:

I know it's a lot, but if you don't get around 30 mil/h (including LP) in level 4 missions


How can you make around 30 mil/h ????
]]> Mon, 14 May 2012 07:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16269018 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by FT Diomedes]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215091#post1215091 Gorki Andropov wrote:
Look at all of the self-righteous sheeple bleating "Don't mix weapons, baah, don't mix weapons!" What the hell else are you going to put there that could be use to a cruise Raven? A NOS? A tractor beam? A DLA? Jesus. And it's not as if the OP is mixing *main* weapons systens, either.


If he fitted a couple of autocannons there, it wouldn't be terrible. It's just pointless fitting a couple of cap using lasers on there when the OP doesn't really have the skills to fly the ship properly in the first place.
]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16269027 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vai Tanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1214180#post1214180 Gorki Andropov wrote:
Look at all of the self-righteous sheeple bleating "Don't mix weapons, baah, don't mix weapons!" What the hell else are you going to put there that could be use to a cruise Raven? A NOS? A tractor beam? A DLA? Jesus. And it's not as if the OP is mixing *main* weapons systens, either.


He's asking for advice fitting the Raven. I did exactly the same thing for the same reason when I first started out and it was totally useless, so the advice was to drop them. A tractor beam is more use for scooping cans with mission objectives in slightly faster instead of slowboating the whole way to them.]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:13:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16191273 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Patri Andari]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1213585#post1213585
My 2 isk:


Park your Raven. You are not skilled enough to use it in level 4 missions at the moment. With the current market, loosing battleships in missions is painful. So what to do about your burning desire to run level 4 missions?

Stick with your Drake! Yes it will go slower but not as slow as people would have you believe. There are 3 things you need to remember when running level 4 missions in a Drake

1. Fit three BCU II (yes three). All other fitting decisions must revolve around this. Depending on your skills, this may mean you have to make some tough choices about the rest of your modules. Prioritize T2 launches next and fiddle around with the rest until you have a decent tank. You still want to go with a passive set up as this is what you are most skilled for so keep the purger rigs. Also be sure to change hardeners to fit the missions

2. Forget God mode. If you are like most noob Drake pilots you are used to gaining full room aggro in missions. This will get you killed in level 4 missions if you are gank fitted with 3x BCU IIs. Use eve survival and learn proper aggro management in the missions. If you do you will find a Drake fit for gank not only can run all level 4 missions but it will do so faster than you poorly skilled Raven.

3. This is temporary. As you are runnin level 4 missions in your Drake skill up missile support, capacitor and active shield related skills. Thees will make it much easier to move into your next ship (Raven or Tengu) with few setbacks.


Summation: Do level 4 missions in your Drake while skilling up your supports but maximize your gank and forget your brick tank ways of the past. You are skilled to use one of only two battlecruisers in the game that can run every level 4 mission. Take advantage of this as it may soon be nerfed.]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16190718 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by July Oumis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1213480#post1213480 salvager -> well, salvage not too distant large wrecks
drone link augmentor -> watch out, the drones 60 km away could be killed fast by any respawn.


If you have trained lasers up to a point where mediums hit frigs properly, why not...

You just shouldn't start training those, to fill up you highslots.]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16190663 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1213398#post1213398
I decided I am going for a Raven now and do L3's, so I can compare it to the Drake and get a feel of just how hard frigates are to hit with the cruise missile launchers (with 2 x rigor and 1 x flare rigs), while upping my drone skills. And I am going to fit the two lasers because frankly I don't have anything else to fit there, and I reckon everything helps vs. frigates - I mean it is either that or nothing on those two slots, and I already have the needed skills, so why not. At least for now, perhaps I'll get a drone augmentor or something later on if I can fit it.

But thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it.]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:50:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16190572 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by July Oumis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1212915#post1212915

You need to skill Drones, which is a lot work, if you want to kill elite frigs fast. Then he has to train Missile + Missile Support skills, to max out DPS, those you see in EFT and those other ones like Explo Radius... etc

Its far from self righteous, to keep him from training a total different weapontree.

Roll]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16190124 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Gorki Andropov]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1212896#post1212896 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:59:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16190094 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by IIshira]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1212116#post1212116
If you can join a corporation that has mission fleets going. It's much more fun and even though you'll have to split the rewards you'll make more ISK because completion times will be faster.

If I missed any of the above comments related to what I said don't beat me up. I'm on my phone so it's difficult to read all the posts.

]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 04:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16189394 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Olwen McOnna]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1212000#post1212000 Orlacc wrote:
If you are skating through L3s, L4s won't be all that deadly. The booster fit is the cookie cutter and works fine. Suck it up and just do it. Research the mission first to fit the correct hardeners.


This man tells the truth!

Go for the Booster fit Layout, don-t forget to fit the Rigor Rigs which help a lot against smaller targets and very important, get your drone skills up for T2 drones, they can save your day.
I had very dood success with this approach, even with low skillpoints. If you don-t pull room aggro you will have no problems.]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16189299 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1207373#post1207373 Orlacc wrote:
If you are skating through L3s, L4s won't be all that deadly. The booster fit is the cookie cutter and works fine. Suck it up and just do it. Research the mission first to fit the correct hardeners.


Pretty much this. Most Battleships and strategic cruisers don't buffer tank for PvE other than for incursions.]]> Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:29:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16184912 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Orlacc]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1206170#post1206170 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16183770 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Zhilia Mann]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1205890#post1205890
Honestly, the Raven is kind of a meh ship. CNR is decentish, but there are better mission ships out there.]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16183529 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vai Tanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1205836#post1205836 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16183477 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by July Oumis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1203131#post1203131 Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Photon Scattering Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


The "golden" rule for level 4s is that tank + dps should add up to 1000, while none shall be under 400. This fit will eventually get you there, but I still doubt this will be fun for you...


If you realize your tank won't hold, kill the frigs, that may scramble you and warp out. It's a burst tank and not made for running capstable.]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:11:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180914 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Boz Wel]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1203119#post1203119 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
I really appreciate all the help, as Eve is a bit of a jungle and is best "learned by doing" in my experience, but that soon proves costly. I listened to the feedback and came up with an unorthodox setup I can actually fly, but wont until I get T2 drones. Would this be able to do L4's?


[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven alternate]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner I
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
X-Large Shield Booster II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Imperial Navy Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Imperial Navy Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
[Empty Rig Slot]

With my skills I get:

50,947 EHP
230 m/s
350/417 defence (not really sure what that means)
EM resist: 59.7%
Thermal resist: 67.8%
Kinetic resist: 46.3%
Explosive resist: 55.3%
302 DPS / 2993 Volley using launchers
38 DPS / 145 Volley using the lasers, and they are only there to assist drones in taking out frigates (I use another ship for salvage/loot)
Cap stable at 45% when not running lasers, cap booster and shield booster.

I know hybrid turrets would be better as "emergency turrets", but I like lasers and I was thinking I could just keep feeding this ship Cap Booster 800's - is that viable for missions? And if so, perhaps I should forget about the two cap recharge rigs altogether?


Ditch the lasers. Fit a tractor beam. Ditch the CCC rigs - you have a cap booster fitted and you don't need both. Also, versus Sanshas, you're better off ditching the shield boost amplifier and fitting a 2nd EM hardener.]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180926 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by FT Diomedes]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1202977#post1202977 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Thanks, that's a useful site - I was using mission-specific hardners before, but used NPC info from Evelopedia. This is far more detailed. I just got a few more questions then I think I will be on my way to a succesful Eve-experience:

Will the last output I posted above be sufficient for L4's? Specifically:

1. Will I be able to sufficiently counter scrambling frigates with 5 T2 drones and drone support skills at level IV plus the two lasers? Not using the cruiser launchers and getting rigor rigs for frigates at all.

2. Can I just spam the cap booster all I want so I can keep the shield booster running with no drawback except from spending a bit of isk on Cap Booster 800's?


1. Please, just get rid of the lasers. What a ghastly idea... 5 T2 drones with Level IV support skills will take care of the frigates

2. You don't have enough cargohold to run the cap booster constantly. Nor is it designed for that. It's good to learn to manage your cap. If you want to run the shield booster constantly, invest in a complex booster such as a Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster. It's very easy to make that run forever without spending too many slots on cap recharge.]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180776 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1202898#post1202898
Will the last output I posted above be sufficient for L4's? Specifically:

1. Will I be able to sufficiently counter scrambling frigates with 5 T2 drones and drone support skills at level IV plus the two lasers? Not using the cruiser launchers and getting rigor rigs for frigates at all.

2. Can I just spam the cap booster all I want so I can keep the shield booster running with no drawback except from spending a bit of isk on Cap Booster 800's?]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:26:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180748 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by July Oumis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1202564#post1202564
- Use mission spec hardeners. www.eve-survival.org is the carebear bible.


I know how you feel, been there, done that.]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180408 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1202470#post1202470 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16180318 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by July Oumis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1201974#post1201974
I also would use it only for training how the ship works and then switch to a Navy Raven, as soon as you can afford to lose it. (I'm serious)

Recommended:

Caldari BS V
Drone Interfacing IV
Basically all Drone skills IV + the Ability to use T2 Medium and Small Drones
T2 Cruise Missiles + Support skills IV - V

Shield Skills IV -V

That's around 15-20 Mil SP

I know it's a lot, but if you don't get around 30 mil/h (including LP) in level 4 missions, you could also blitz 3s in a well skilled Drake or do Highsec Explorations in a frig.

Fittingwise:

A Raven CNR should look like this, to be efficient:

[Raven Navy Issue, needed]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
[empty low slot]

Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


You'll need all those rigs and at least one Target Painter to apply the damage to smaller ships than battleships.

Also important: Get at least the 3% damage and support implants. Those add up to a decent improvement in applied damage.

Slot 10: RL-1003
Slot 9: TN-903
Slot 8: GP-803
Slot 7: whatever is useful to you
Slot 6: CM-603


good luck and be patient

G+/]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:14:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16179885 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199957#post1199957

[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven alternate]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Afterburner I
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Field
X-Large Shield Booster II
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Imperial Navy Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Imperial Navy Focused Medium Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
[Empty Rig Slot]

With my skills I get:

50,947 EHP
230 m/s
350/417 defence (not really sure what that means)
EM resist: 59.7%
Thermal resist: 67.8%
Kinetic resist: 46.3%
Explosive resist: 55.3%
302 DPS / 2993 Volley using launchers
38 DPS / 145 Volley using the lasers, and they are only there to assist drones in taking out frigates (I use another ship for salvage/loot)
Cap stable at 45% when not running lasers, cap booster and shield booster.

I know hybrid turrets would be better as "emergency turrets", but I like lasers and I was thinking I could just keep feeding this ship Cap Booster 800's - is that viable for missions? And if so, perhaps I should forget about the two cap recharge rigs altogether?]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:30:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16179891 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Zhilia Mann]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199709#post1199709 Kalli Brixzat wrote:
spaceinator wrote:
One thing i would like to add, when fitting a ship make sure to remember stacking penalities, any more than 3 of the same type is useless, you are better off fitig something different than fiting a 4th module effecting the same stat.


I agree with this statement. I often find it strange that people insist on stacking a 4th BCU on BS sized missile boats. Unless it's an office mod, the stacking penalty will render the 4th BCU nearly useless. Even then, the office/deadspace mod would still be giving tiny DPS increase. For most purposes, another mod would be more beneficial.

That said, in high end PvE content, every little bit counts.


It's the only thing that will go in the lows that will increase damage. It's unfortunate that it's stacking penalized, but what else would you put there? You have enough tank; all you need is more gank.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:25:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177812 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by KardelSharpeye]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199659#post1199659 Jazmyn Stone wrote:
I realize you probably have low skill points, and low on isk ,so I'll not mention any deep space mods, but you should try and lean in this direction:

6XArbalest Cruise launchers (faction missiles)

X-L shield booster
Ionic Shield boost amp
2X hardeners (one primary dam, second second dam)
1X resist amp (primary dam)
frx heavy cap booster, 800 charges (have 15 in cargo)

4X BCUs
Damage control

2Xrigors
1X flare

light drones

-you may find that in some missions things may get a little uncomfortable.

This next one was my set-up, and it worked very well, (but now I have a CNR):

6X Cruise Launcher II

Pith B-type X-L Shield Booster
Shield Boost amp II
2Xfaction hardener
1X faction res. amp
Hvy Cap Bstr, 800 charges

4XCNBCU
Internal force DC

same rigs

mix light drones/med drones

Faction missiles with crap skills, yep he'll be loosing isk in no time.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:09:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177734 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vai Tanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199634#post1199634 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Thanks, and I got to focus on active shield tanking rather than passive as I have gotten used to on the Drake right?

Edit: This is the setup I thought I would go by if I get back into a Raven, and it doesn't have any particular means to counter frigates, save for drones. Is this reliable vs. scrambling frigates?

[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Small Tractor Beam I
Empty

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin IIL


Drop one of the hardeners for an afterburner and an amp for a cap booster. Also drop a flux coil for a DCUII and replace as many CCC rigs with Rigors as your fitting skills allow. Don't set foot in an L4 until you can field a full flight of 5 T2 light drones.

Cruise Ravens are best range tanking, they get no benefit at all from being closer to the targets. When I used one I used to fit only as much cap as needed to perma run the AB, the X-large shield booster was pulsed to rep the slight shield drain at range which the normal cap regen covered.

The cap booster is there for the oh crap moments when the gate drops you in the middle of a spawn, a group spawns on top of you or you're webbed/scrammed. An X-large shield booster with a bay of 800's will keep you alive until you can get range, warp out or your drones kill the frigates.

This is the fit I used:

[Raven, Raven 4]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation

X-Large Shield Booster II
'Copasetic' Particle Field Acceleration
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
100MN Afterburner II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177755 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199433#post1199433 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Thanks, and I got to focus on active shield tanking rather than passive as I have gotten used to on the Drake right?

Edit: This is the setup I thought I would go by if I get back into a Raven, and it doesn't have any particular means to counter frigates, save for drones. Is this reliable vs. scrambling frigates?

[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Small Tractor Beam I
Empty

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin IIL


Kill one or both of the Capacitor Flux Coils in the lows. Replace with Damage Control and/or a 4th BCU II. If you projection/bombardment skills are at 3 or better, go Damage Control + Type D Sensor mod (forget the name) to lock/hit targets from further out.

Kill one of the Shield Boost Amps in the mids. Replace with a TP. It will help more than you can imagine.

Skills permitting, place a salvager in the empty high to loot/salvage on the go. Consider replacing tractor with Drone Link to engage frigates further.

Use Hobgolblins (or any other light drone). They do better deeps to those scramming/webbing frigates than the mediums do.
]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:22:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177522 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199221#post1199221
Edit: This is the setup I thought I would go by if I get back into a Raven, and it doesn't have any particular means to counter frigates, save for drones. Is this reliable vs. scrambling frigates?

[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Small Tractor Beam I
Empty

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin IIL]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:36:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177386 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1199134#post1199134 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Well my problem was the reverse, really. I didn't have skills to get T2 launchers, but enough tank (seemingly) to survive, so I tried to counter the low damage by having loads of extra damage modules, even though they got heavily penalized. Sort of worked until I got killed of course:-)

Anyways, I have been thinking if anyone could give me advice on what to do? I have been mission running to make my ISK, but to get a Nightmare or something like that I have to be level 3 mission running from now until christmas to make the ISK. So what should I do if I want to able to run level 4's solo as soon as possible, so I can get a bit of a bump up on my isk/hour?

I got some shield tanking skills, missile skills and can pilot Caldari battleships. What ship would be good to get/level towards if the emphasis is on being able to solo level 4's as soon as possible?

A Tengu would take me a month + a couple of months running L3 missions, so I am looking for something that will do the job, but requiring a smaller investment and time to get a proper skill set for.


Raven. If you prefer to focus on turret skills (which is what you want for a nightmare) you can use a Rokh. while the nightmare is not going to be using hybrid turrets, the support skills will be identical for both - which will make your training slightly more efficient.

On the other hand, you can use that Raven quicker since you already have missile skills (tank skills would benefit both). The Raven is relatively cheap to fit (150M isk will do it for a solid mostly-T2 fit provided you have the skills). You can certainly do your L4 missions in that. it might not be super fast, but it will get it done efficiently enough.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16177259 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1198525#post1198525
Anyways, I have been thinking if anyone could give me advice on what to do? I have been mission running to make my ISK, but to get a Nightmare or something like that I have to be level 3 mission running from now until christmas to make the ISK. So what should I do if I want to able to run level 4's solo as soon as possible, so I can get a bit of a bump up on my isk/hour?

I got some shield tanking skills, missile skills and can pilot Caldari battleships. What ship would be good to get/level towards if the emphasis is on being able to solo level 4's as soon as possible?

A Tengu would take me a month + a couple of months running L3 missions, so I am looking for something that will do the job, but requiring a smaller investment and time to get a proper skill set for.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16176780 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1198404#post1198404 spaceinator wrote:
One thing i would like to add, when fitting a ship make sure to remember stacking penalities, any more than 3 of the same type is useless, you are better off fitig something different than fiting a 4th module effecting the same stat.


I agree with this statement. I often find it strange that people insist on stacking a 4th BCU on BS sized missile boats. Unless it's an office mod, the stacking penalty will render the 4th BCU nearly useless. Even then, the office/deadspace mod would still be giving tiny DPS increase. For most purposes, another mod would be more beneficial.

That said, in high end PvE content, every little bit counts.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:10:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16176594 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by spaceinator]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1195498#post1195498 Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:34:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16173957 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Arcan Winter]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1195086#post1195086
But before you really start running the raven get your missile support skills up to lvl 4. Explotion radius and velicity have a huge impact on how well missiles works.

CCC rigs might feel safer since you get cap faster, but rigor rigs will make you will faster and a cap booster should be enough to keep your cap up.

Once you get your skills up, you will tank with your dps instead. a dead rat cant kill you. So in many mission your active tank will drop alot in the beginning and once you start poping them you should be find.

Also, its a big differences in passive and active tanking. It can take some to get used to it.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:49:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16173496 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Demieta]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1192381#post1192381 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
You know, I think I will go with that. The Tengu is just so expensive, but I guess it is worth the wait. Also drones. Are level 4's doable in a Tengu?


A Tengu is a very good PvE ship, and eats level 4 missions. In Caldari space it's almost as good as a Nightmare or a Paladin. The Tengu is faster and has a bit better time with range and frigates, but the best PvE battleships do a lot more damage.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:55:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16170936 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1192188#post1192188 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16170730 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Demieta]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191832#post1191832 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:31:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16170342 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1191150#post1191150

Happy I went with platinum insurance, hehe.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:37:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169744 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vai Tanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190795#post1190795 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Alright thanks for all the help. I should check out the survival guide. By the way I encountered the first foe I can't kill - a tracking disrupting Centum Loyal Execrator Cruiser. My Vespa drones can't do any damage to it either:-( How much would a rigor rig help?


They'd help a lot. Warheads have an explosion radius, and if a target's signature radius is smaller than the missile's explosion radius less of the damage it could do is applied to the target. Rigor rigs reduce the explosion radius so more of the damage is applied to smaller ships.

You need them for cruise missiles in L4 and you'll need them along with a target painter if you swap to torpedoes. I'd go with everyone else at the moment though, you'll make more grinding L3s in your Drake than trying L4s in a Raven until you can equip at least a T2 tank, T2 drones and training towards T2 launchers. Apart from the completion speed you will lose your Raven almost certainly if you hit a difficult mission.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169487 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kalli Brixzat]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190603#post1190603 Gorki Andropov wrote:
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I


lol???
]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169219 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Jazmyn Stone]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190531#post1190531
6XArbalest Cruise launchers (faction missiles)

X-L shield booster
Ionic Shield boost amp
2X hardeners (one primary dam, second second dam)
1X resist amp (primary dam)
frx heavy cap booster, 800 charges (have 15 in cargo)

4X BCUs
Damage control

2Xrigors
1X flare

light drones

-you may find that in some missions things may get a little uncomfortable.

This next one was my set-up, and it worked very well, (but now I have a CNR):

6X Cruise Launcher II

Pith B-type X-L Shield Booster
Shield Boost amp II
2Xfaction hardener
1X faction res. amp
Hvy Cap Bstr, 800 charges

4XCNBCU
Internal force DC

same rigs

mix light drones/med drones]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:07:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169142 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Gorki Andropov]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190482#post1190482
HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169042 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Warpshade]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190431#post1190431
[Raven, DPSRaven]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Rat specific hardener tech2
Rat specific hardener tech2
Rat specific hardener tech2

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
Small Tractor Beam I

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

x5 Hobgoblin II
x5 Hammerhead II

Use Pulse Shield Booster as and when needed, Cap Booster 800'sas and when you need cap.

Carry about 16,or17 x 800 cap boosters in your cargo hold, and the rest of the space for ammo.
As far as fitting goes, obviously you can remove the tractor beam, and add it until you can fit it, replace the Tech2 launchers with Arbalest launchers, until you can use Tech2 ones. The Shield booster, you can use the best named Tech1 until you have the fitting requirements to use a Tech2.

If you are struggling on capacitor, because your not quite used to the build, you can always replace a Ballistic control unit with a Cargo Expander II, to allow you to hold more Cap boosters, until your comfortable/familiar with flying it.

The rig's and target painter are used to maximise missile damage, since you lose damage with missile velocity, and explosion radius.

]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:54:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169088 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Orlacc]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190179#post1190179 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Ok so I tried the non-mwd fit, showed up at the mission spot and almost got killed even though I had booster running and everything. Then I tried out the mwd, almost got killed again but survived long enough to get to a confortable range, so my drones could kill all frigates while I shoot at the BS's. Problem is it takes me 10 minutes to kill 1 Centus Savage Lord (I timed it). Can anything be done about that, besides from spending weeks getting T2 launchers?



Actually no. T2 are pretty much required for a sound BS fit.
]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16169093 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1190056#post1190056 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:02:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168633 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Malcanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189986#post1189986 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Are there scrambling ships in l4 missions - ships that keep you from warping out to safety???


Yes but not in all missions. Webbers are quite common though.

The correct response is to bring T2 Hobgoblins.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:51:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168560 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189865#post1189865 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168417 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Almrausch]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189831#post1189831 Like I suggested: Read up on missions on eve-survival.org or whatever and make sure to kill any potentially scrambling/webbing frigates, then you should be fine.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:28:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168455 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189785#post1189785 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:21:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168336 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Ishanmae]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189777#post1189777 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Ok so I tried the non-mwd fit, showed up at the mission spot and almost got killed even though I had booster running and everything. Then I tried out the mwd, almost got killed again but survived long enough to get to a confortable range, so my drones could kill all frigates while I shoot at the BS's. Problem is it takes me 10 minutes to kill 1 Centus Savage Lord (I timed it). Can anything be done about that, besides from spending weeks getting T2 launchers?



There's quite a few missile support skills that can help you with that.

I advise checking the certifications (the Core certificates, Active shield tanking and Missile Control amongst others) as they can give you an idea of what to aim for.

Last but not least, I'd consider running L3s for a while longer, until you have the proper support skills to make the above fits work for you, you'll make more cash running 2-3 L3s per hour in your Drake than you would taking 1.5 hours per L4 in your Raven.


EDIT: Considering you started playing less than a month ago (2012.03.31), I'd keep training before jumping into L4s ;)]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:19:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168344 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Almrausch]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189763#post1189763 low-SP Raven is bad. Even high-SP Raven is something that is not that great.
Combine these and you get an even worse result.

Get your skills trained up. Not necessarily T2, but also the missile support skills.

You will start to see improvement. But it takes time.

If you have spare money you can go for Caldari Navy Raven, which boosts your dps a bit since it can mount another launcher. (iirc)

This will obviously be an expensive loss and if you are inexperienced with lvl4s there is a good chance you do lose it sooner or later if you dont read up on the mission. (eve-survival.org)

Also, I personally wouldnt go with less than 4 damage mods. The boost from the 4th might not be great, but it still adds up.


edit: get rid of the Large Shield Extender. Use more resistance mods. Sansha will tear through that little bit of extra buffer with your low shield resists.
It is probably obvious, but just in case: Adjust resist mods to the mission/npc]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:17:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168358 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189714#post1189714 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16168393 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189061#post1189061
And if I dump the "haha I am cleverer than NPC's and use a MWD to troll them" approach, would this be a decent setup to survive l4's (please have in mind that I'm working on my tanking skills):

[Raven, Non-MW Raven Entry]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
5a Prototype Shield Support I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:06:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167734 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Versuvius Marii]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188972#post1188972
A Drake gets bonuses to shield resistances and has one of the highest shield recharge rates in the game, and just about gets through lvl 4s, and most definitely struggles with the higher difficulty missions. And you're proposing to take a ship with no shield bonuses and a significantly lower shield recharge rate into the same scenario. So I wish you luck, but I do not see how it can possibly work.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167641 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188932#post1188932
I am going to do a bit of experiment with the Raven, so I would be sad to lock it down to certain rigs right away. I got my eyes on a torpedo PVP-fit I might ultimately cross over to once I have sufficient skills, and that setup didnt use rigor rigs. Before that though I want to go try out active tanking, as most of the approved BattleClinic setups goes this way, but I am waiting until I can get T2 modules.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:41:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167571 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Alan Shroue]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188883#post1188883
I've gone for an active tank as even with correct aggro management the incoming seems to me that it would just overpower a passive tank.

You still haven't filled your rig slots, i use cap rechargers as the active tank takes all my cap but if i was stable (Gist c-type X-large approx 700mill) i would use some missile buffs eg Large calefaction / flare or rigor i find cruisers take to longest to kill, sig radius blar blar blar use drones for the frigs. Maybe a drone interface in your spare high could help getting thsoe targets that like to stay at range.

In addition i found two Power Diagnostic systems II in the lows helped alot more than cap flux coils, i got about 5s cap off the coils and 15s off the PDS's in addition to the shield bonuses. No contest for me.


]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:32:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167506 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vai Tanis]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188845#post1188845
I'd personally also drop the MWD for an afterburner, you should be fast enough to keep range on BS without inflating your sig radius or eating all your cap

I'd suggest also if you're comfortable with keeping track of things dropping your two LSEs and the inv field for an X-large shield booster, boost amplifier and a Cap booster. You'll need drones as well, lights and mediums to deal with frigates and cruisers too small and fast for your missiles to apply their damage to and drop the salvager in favour of getting a destroyer fit with tractors and salvagers to swap to after the mission

Train for T2 light drones first though, you'll need them in L4s to kill web/scram frigates as fast as possible.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:26:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167542 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Crellion]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188653#post1188653 Lojak 2501 wrote:
the reason why most dont fit a MWD for a mission boat is due to the reason that most missions take place in a deadspace pocket and that module cant be used in there but ABs can. i cant say if this has recently changed

also, dont fit more than 3 damage mods due to the fact the damage bonus that you would get from it would be so small that you really cant justify the slot usage. rigs are also a must.
what i like do is grossly over tank. if i cant tank the whole room for an extended firefight at a dead stand still im not happy, but thats my personal play style.


Mwds now work in missions. However the mwd capacitor penalty and the active shield tank Raven don't work well together in most cases especially when your DPS is less than impeccable...]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:48:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167335 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188645#post1188645
EDIT: How about this setup then: (And by the way I am hesitant to populate the rig slots until I got the skills to run a really good setup, so I can compensate or strenghten relevant areas with rigs when I got access to the ship's full potential)


[Raven, MW Raven Entry 2]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

When running the invulnerability field alone it is stable at 61%]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:47:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167341 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Lojak 2501]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188622#post1188622
also, dont fit more than 3 damage mods due to the fact the damage bonus that you would get from it would be so small that you really cant justify the slot usage. rigs are also a must.
what i like do is grossly over tank. if i cant tank the whole room for an extended firefight at a dead stand still im not happy, but thats my personal play style.]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:43:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167267 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188607#post1188607

[Raven, Perfect Starter Lv4 Mission raven]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
[empty high slot]

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167277 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Cryissa]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188596#post1188596 Haruki Yanumano wrote:
Hi I'm fairly new here, got a Drake and have been running l3 missions like a boss. Now I finally got the skillset for a (poor man's) entry Raven for l4 missions. Would this be a sufficient setup: (yes I know there are better setups at BattleClinic, I'm levelling towards them, but I wanna start mission-grinding as soon as possible):


[Raven, MW Raven Entry]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]


I know some ppl might say it's stupid to mount a MW drive, but I have found that the AI of the NPC's in l3 missions is so that you can always MW until you are out of range of the NPC's and then bombard them with missiles from long range. Works like a charm, and the NPC's mostly don't move towards you but just sit still and wait to die. Sometimes there's a stasis turret or two that you can take out really fast, so you can MW away all you want. Is this the same in l4 missions?



There are many fits and many people will give you advice. Just a quick look over your fit I read and experienced that 5th and 4th Ballistic Control do not give you enough return to be viable. I can't remember the link so perhaps someone has it where it shows the effects in a % the decline after fitting the 2nd 3rd and so on.

Nothing wrong in a MW Drive if you wish to zipp about but for me normally I drop it for more tank or hardener or maybe even a Target Painter.

Get to Tech II launchers as quick as you can to take the advance ammo.

Also get those Rig slots populated.

Thats my little bit of advice. Good luck and fly safe :)]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:38:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167287 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Eighty One]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188576#post1188576
I like to use

[Raven, pvefun]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:33:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167305 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Haruki Yanumano]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1188476#post1188476

[Raven, MW Raven Entry]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Prototype 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Scourge Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]


I know some ppl might say it's stupid to mount a MW drive, but I have found that the AI of the NPC's in l3 missions is so that you can always MW until you are out of range of the NPC's and then bombard them with missiles from long range. Works like a charm, and the NPC's mostly don't move towards you but just sit still and wait to die. Sometimes there's a stasis turret or two that you can take out really fast, so you can MW away all you want. Is this the same in l4 missions?]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:08:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/16167175 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Kaboom22]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1#3#post1#3
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]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:40:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/1259300 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Mari Y'Tuk]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1#2#post1#2
My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here.]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:52:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/1563114 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Mari Y'Tuk]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1#2#post1#2
My Production Spreadsheet, Most T1 Bp data, Located here.]]> Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:52:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/1563115 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vigilant]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1#1#post1#1

Hurry up and wait...just thought I would bring a bit of excitement to your day, from the title. Very Happy
]]> Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:57:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/2606730 <![CDATA[L4 mission running - by Vigilant]]> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1#1#post1#1

Hurry up and wait...just thought I would bring a bit of excitement to your day, from the title. Very Happy
]]> Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:57:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/2606731