EVE-Search ForumWatch http://eve-search.com/ The alternative EVE-Online Forum browser. en-us Thu, 8 Jan 2009 00:00:00 +0000 EVE-Search RSS Module v1.1 chribba@evemail <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Dristra]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#11 Originally by: Gordon Red
IMHO the hole damage thing is a little bit useless.

The damage to modules and their "destruction" is totally impractical, if I overheat my weapons they are gone in a matter of seconds and NOTHING is won.
The only useful act is to overheat my MWD to escape a gate camp or to overheat my webber to catch someone right out of my range (because they don't generate too much heat).

To counter the damage right away with the nanite paste is a step in the wrong direction. It only a conclusion for the symptoms, but does not remove the impractical situation.

=> Better and more useful would be, if the overheated modules go into a semi off-line status and will come back online, after the heat is fully dissipated.

Like modern technology, the system will be shut down, BEFORE damage is done.
After it cooled down it will be operational again.

Naturally it will take longer to get rid off the heat as to produce it. Wink

Later with even more advanced technology it might be available to fit "real" heat sinks or ships will be developed that get rid off the heat faster.



I agree, when I heard about heat I thought that we had this heat meter, and only if you let the meter go to red would you damage your mods, well, trust ccp to make things harder by making them annoying and time consuming instead.

It's great being Amarr isn't it.

Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!

]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2009 12:05:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6987613 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Bellum Eternus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#10 Originally by: Akita T
On Marauders, I didn't expect to be able to overheat all 4 weapons permanently.
But how about overheating just one of the four, with 3 modules as heatsinks ?
And have you noticed any difference between, say, 3 offlined small nos and 3 offlined heavy NOS as a heat sink (just an example) ?


I've tried it with all sorts of diff stuff in the heatsink spots. All modules have 40hp it seems, and they all take heat at the same hp/sec it seems as well.

I experimented with this by just overheating, then docking to see exactly how man hp of damage was done, with various mods, for the same amount of vollies etc.

Damage seems random, but fairly consistant.

Bellum Eternus
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[Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2009 08:15:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6986448 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Akita T]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#9 But how about overheating just one of the four, with 3 modules as heatsinks ?
And have you noticed any difference between, say, 3 offlined small nos and 3 offlined heavy NOS as a heat sink (just an example) ?

1|2|3|4|5.]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2009 08:05:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6986447 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Rogerano]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#8 ---
Not happy with something in EVE? An emo whine will doubtless help your cause.]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2009 05:56:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6985994 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Gordon Red]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#7
The damage to modules and their "destruction" is totally impractical, if I overheat my weapons they are gone in a matter of seconds and NOTHING is won.
The only useful act is to overheat my MWD to escape a gate camp or to overheat my webber to catch someone right out of my range (because they don't generate too much heat).

To counter the damage right away with the nanite paste is a step in the wrong direction. It only a conclusion for the symptoms, but does not remove the impractical situation.

=> Better and more useful would be, if the overheated modules go into a semi off-line status and will come back online, after the heat is fully dissipated.

Like modern technology, the system will be shut down, BEFORE damage is done.
After it cooled down it will be operational again.

Naturally it will take longer to get rid off the heat as to produce it. Wink

Later with even more advanced technology it might be available to fit "real" heat sinks or ships will be developed that get rid off the heat faster.


]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2009 22:03:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6983627 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Zeph Solaris]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#6 ]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2009 21:00:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6983178 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by James Lyrus]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#5
As is, a thermodynamics boost on Marauders wouldn't really be game breaking. It'd just be a sucky bonus.

Even with a reduced damage rate from overloading, they still won't last the amount of time you need to complete a mission. (or if they did, then that _would_ be broken).

Incidentally, a Golem takes very significantly longer to burn out than a Raven does, if you lay the modules out right.
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]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2009 20:27:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6982946 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by Vrenth]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#3 Originally by: Exlegion
I'm currently experimenting with heat and the effects on Marauders. But as it stands it doesn't seem like it's worth it (atleast on missions). Even with offlined modules acting as heatsinks and the skill at lvl 4 (currently training to lvl 5) the guns start taking damage almost immediately. I was thinking maybe a boost from 5% to 7.5% per level may help. Hell, I wouldn't mind replacing the tractor beam bonus on Marauders with a flat % increase to the Thermodynamics skill. Would this change be game-breaking? What do devs and players think about this idea?



Tech 1 and 2 items are not designed to be overloaded. Only in extreme situations or emergencies should they be overloaded. There is almost never a time like this in PvE as long as your prepared. Overheating, as it is right now, is pretty much pvp only. A short, but very impacting advantage.
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Let's make CLONE VATS useful!]]> Mon, 17 Dec 2009 19:20:00 +0000 eve-search/guid/6982266 <![CDATA[Boost to Thermodynamics - by FawKa]]> http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=662685&page=1#2 I would rather want a skill that makes them take more heat before getting dmg'd. Thermo is fine tbh, they do not take that much dmg at lvl. V but we still have to repair all the time..
I guess we have to wait for Tech 3 tho Neutral



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Not being able to adapt and not being able to use the search button seem to go hand in hand.

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