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Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Wind Ictiva

Mon, 21 Jan 2009 20:53:00 +0000

Originally by: Vimos Ziggy
For us non-piratey toons

FYI this isnt disney world, there are no toons here, only characters.

...i dont know why that irritates me.

Originally by: Admiral Love

Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Dr Slice

Mon, 21 Jan 2009 17:52:00 +0000

Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Vimos Ziggy
do you evil guys follow the pirate code? Got ganked whilst on an expedition in pirate heaven and tried to invoke the right of parlay but didn't get very far.

I didn't know pirates of the Caribbean was required watching before pressing f1-f8

LMAO

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Marcus TheMartin

Mon, 21 Jan 2009 17:42:00 +0000

Originally by: Vimos Ziggy
do you evil guys follow the pirate code? Got ganked whilst on an expedition in pirate heaven and tried to invoke the right of parlay but didn't get very far.

I didn't know pirates of the Caribbean was required watching before pressing f1-f8

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by bozwold

Mon, 21 Jan 2009 11:57:00 +0000

Belt pircay is far from dead. You have to pull your finger out of your a** and go looking for it. You need to be covering a lot of area to find numerous/decent targets.

Like Verone said avoiding the other pirates is probably your main concern, and possibly the anti pies who like to venture into low sec every now and again.

I find that interceptors/recons are best for this unless you have a scout and then bigger ships look a lot more appealing.

boz

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Yakov Draken

Mon, 21 Jan 2009 08:47:00 +0000

Edited by: Yakov Draken on 21/01/2008 08:47:09
Lots of good posts - well worth the read.

Corp I'm in left 0.0 and reformed as pirates in low sec awhile back. It took a few months to get the hang of things but since then it has got better and better. We have since tried life in Stain but didn't like all the carebearing that seemed necessary. We get plenty of kills and a decent amount of good fights. The loot is often good and occassionally awesome.

We didn't use to ransom much but now ransom pods. The smack we receive as a consequence of this is humor and sometimes they even pay. I'm still too much of a killmail ***** to ransom ships but even that might change.

Best pvp trick our corp has come across for low sec life is to take just enough for the job - good scouting is crucial for this. Ganking a BC on the gate in cruisers is a rush. Killing a nub destroyer in the belts using a Velator is . For a mission running BS attacking with a Vaga and a gank Brutix is a blast. A gank becomes a fight - though seldom a fair one. This is not a pirate thing to do but it is fun and my Rifter/Rupture/Stabber are getting good service once again.

Mission busting setups are really fun and dropping the MWD for an AB makes fitting them dreamy.

I've still got lots to learn about piracy and the learning is a blast.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by doctorstupid2

Sun, 20 Jan 2009 16:10:00 +0000

Originally by: Bellum Eternus
... The massive drop in cost of T2 items has reduced the ISK density of loot ...

God how I miss the excitement of looting an invul II or cap recharger II...

Deadspace: Ishtar piracy

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Vimos Ziggy

Sun, 20 Jan 2009 11:12:00 +0000

do you evil guys follow the pirate code? Got ganked whilst on an expedition in pirate heaven and tried to invoke the right of parlay but didn't get very far.

For us non-piratey toons, low-sec does suck and I can imagine your frustration especially with warp to zero almost nullifying the gate camp. I don't know how you do it. We were camped in a station for half an hour whilst someone shipped in a load of stabs, at which point we left the system pretty much unhindered. Sounds really boring to me. Perhaps there are too many pirates to make it a decent occupation these days.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Bellum Eternus

Sun, 20 Jan 2009 11:01:00 +0000

Verone makes some good points. I'd like to add a little more detail-

IMO piracy is all about making ISK through killing other players. Everyone talks about PVP and good fights and all that, but if you're a pirate, and the goal is to maximize your ISK earning through killing, then you're not looking for fair fights. You're looking for the fattest targets and trying to kill them in the safest (for you, lol) possible fashion.

The massive drop in cost of T2 items has reduced the ISK density of loot, in addition to the huge drop in mineral prices. This means that you have to kill a much higher number of targets in order to gain the same amount of ISK that you were able to do previously. Unless you can get a target to eject, you can't access the ISK value in the ship and rigs, unless you ransom your target, and that's only available when the target agrees to pay a ransom and when you have the time and safety to do it.

Warp to zero has increased the safety of targets by a tremendous amount. Pirates have to resort to very specialized ships and setups in order to adapt to this problem. Due to WTZ, solo and small (2-3 man) gang piracy has been all but eliminated because you simply can't catch frigs and shuttles with high value cargo in them.

As Verone mentioned, there is very little reason for non-pirates to live in low sec. The only reason mission runners venture into low sec is to run their missions and get the hell out as fast as possible. I'd say that 99% of the kills I get outside of gate camps are mission kills. Anything in a belt is a trap, or the pilot is so new as to not be worth killing (from an ISK standpoint), although there are a few notable exceptions (getting a Rattlesnake pilot to eject anyone?).

CCP has continued to change the game to make it increasingly difficult to be a pirate. Mission runners are more difficult to probe out, targets have WTZ, tanks are twice as good, while peak DPS has been reduced by 20-30% which enforces larger and larger gangs to be effective. ECM is an absolute must. The list goes on.

Pirates represent the smallest portion of the player base in all of Eve. Pirates truly are the elite of Eve. No one else fights with so many disadvantages stacked against them on a consistent basis (no drones, lack of use of frigs/cruisers inside 150km of gates, etc. etc.).

As the number of targets dwindles, so will the number of players who prey on them, if for no other reason than boredom. But that suits me just fine. The fewer pirates there are, the more targets there are for me.

The chance to do solo piracy has all but disappeared, particularly belt piracy, but every once in a while you get the opportunity. Cherish it when you find it, one day soon it'll all but disappear.

Bellum Eternus
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Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Marcus TheMartin

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 20:39:00 +0000

Originally by: Kiiikoooloool
yeah, have been chased by veto corp near rancer with my trader transport ship alt...

even if they haven't caught me,they are good, most of them are people i like.

sad for me, very active =p

Going near rancer is generally never a good idea

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Kiiikoooloool

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 19:49:00 +0000

yeah, have been chased by veto corp near rancer with my trader transport ship alt...

even if they haven't caught me,they are good, most of them are people i like.

sad for me, very active =p

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Verone

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 19:16:00 +0000

Edited by: Verone on 19/01/2008 19:17:17

Traditional piracy is still there when you look in the right places.

As the size of Eve's community has grown, we've seen more of an influx of people into PvP, a fair few of them choosing to pirate in lowsec.

The main issue is that in most of the prime lowsec regions now, the pirates outnumber those who are in the area looking to make a living more legitimately. This is purely due to the lack of incentive to live and work in lowsec. All it's really seen as is that bit of space between the place to run missions, and the place to do "real" PvP as they like to call it.

The issue isn't the playerbase, the issue is the lack of benefits from living and operating in lowsec. There aren't enough incentives, which drives people back to empire our out to 0.0.

The main problem that results from this is that some regions remain target rich, while others empty out fast. Those regions that are ripe for the picking fill with the outlaws.

In turn, the outlaws have to start travelling in packs to defend themselelves from eachother's corporations while they hunt. Hunter hunts hunter, effectively. That's what the majority of issues stem from.

Of course then there's the undock/highsec baiting that most of the nubcorp gangs run. Typically, bored alliance members with alts in NPC or specfically made corps who sit one guy on a station/gate or in a belt and wait, then log in/jump in trap anyone who comes a-pirating.

I know I for one will still be here for a long time, doing what I do. The situatation is actually advantageous at present to be honest, it weeds out the people who are simply looking for constant easy kills, who tend to either turn to gatecamping and run for the station when something with guns arrives, or go back to highsec.

As for the OP's concerns, I think your post says it all :

Quote:
have approached a few pirate corps looking to get one of my characters on the -10 path

Most people who run pirate corps won't knowingly entertain alts. The easiest thing to do is take the plunge and go all in, or step back and find something else that interests you.

To be honest, if you do take the plunge, and end up with a good group, you'll never look back.

I went all in, and Veto itself hit 100 members a couple of days back, pretty much every one of which is active.

>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Marcus TheMartin

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 18:30:00 +0000

Originally by: Golden Helmet
You're just looking at the wrong crowds. I do belt piracy exclusively and thats what I made this corp for, and since my return to piracy I've been flying a Crusader inty the entire time. Lot more fun than all these lazy-ass camping pirates, especially when the victims return to try and get revenge

If you wanna go the -10 belt yarring route, feel free to drop me a line, recruitment's open

/end self promotion :P

Belt piracy dosen't pay the bills like it used too

Gate camps don't have to worry about local as it dosen't traverse systems

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Golden Helmet

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 10:11:00 +0000

You're just looking at the wrong crowds. I do belt piracy exclusively and thats what I made this corp for, and since my return to piracy I've been flying a Crusader inty the entire time. Lot more fun than all these lazy-ass camping pirates, especially when the victims return to try and get revenge

If you wanna go the -10 belt yarring route, feel free to drop me a line, recruitment's open

/end self promotion :P

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Le Skunk

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 09:56:00 +0000

Originally by: Tuloa
I once ran into a gate camp in my n00b ship, carrying nothing at all (besides 1 trit) and they took it out. WHen I left the station in a replaced n00b ship, they took me out again when i arrived at a gate. Seriously, WHAT could i possibly be carrying in a brand new n00b ship that would be worth anything? I've seen some smart pirates, but some just blow up anything they can target, kind-of pointless really.

The problem is a small amount of people abuse the free noob ships, and use noob alts to scout, spy, agress ships pre jump, or indeed attempt to steal loot. Lazy people also caryy loot in them which can be protiable.

As such, they are often treated as kos

SKUNK

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by VB Sarge

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 04:02:00 +0000

Problem is, in my opinion, is there are too many of us pirates out there. We have over fished the waters, so to speak. There are still targets out there, and we are still ransoming/popping them, but it's definately not as common as it used to be. Every now and then you find someone in a belt, but it's too easy to get into a 0.0 corp these days, and rats in low sec aren't very attractive. When you do find someone in a belt in low sec, it's not uncommon for them to be someone with a less than intelligent fitting... Standard missiles on an active tanked Drake, for example.

In my circle, gate camping is generally accepted as pretty lame and boring. We do go on macro hauler hunts and sit at a gate popping them as they go through, and occaisionally get something else, but that's more of a public service I think, than anything else.

As far as what ship sizes I see... It's pretty rare that I see a pirate in a BS... the BS's I usually see are carebears in a mission. BC's seem to be the pirates ship of choice, along with HACs/Recons.

If you're looking for some quality pew, give me a holler in game and I can point you at quite a few low sec pirate corps that aren't all about gate camping in BS's and Cap ships.
www.the-bastards.com
Ask me about recruiting options

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Marcus TheMartin

Sat, 19 Jan 2009 01:21:00 +0000

Belt piracy is dead post your belt piracy memories

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by El Verbatim

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 18:04:00 +0000

Originally by: RuleoftheBone
OP:

Some corps still hold to accepting/honoring ransoms, belt piracy, mission busting and the like as opposed to the "pile on the gate" thang. Most of the guys I know prefer flying cruiser hulls or below on most occasions.

Of course the odd big ship op is fun too .

But you are generally not talking about "fleet" activity....it's usually up close and personal with generally 10-15 ships/side (unless some alliance "relocating to empire to regroup" or "man...lets take tonight off and blob losec with alts" charges thru various pipes full tilt towards Amamake ).

Miners are like Moby ****....scarce. But the ratter/mission runner numbers seem to be picking up a bit (again...some fallout from alliance relocations) and outside of the usual piracy there are good opportunities for gang-v-gang combat versus other pirates and those daring non-outlaws that venture to our side of the tracks.

Or you're roaming belts to belts in your hurricane to find a unlucky victim when suddenly a whole swarm of inties drops in and starts pounding you....

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Fortune Mitford

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 12:01:00 +0000

heh low sec is still the only place a pilot with low sec status can actually kill things solo without getting blobed. having said that last week while caming a gate in my mael with a freinds in a torp raven we got 0.0 stlye blob of deathed by an undisclosed corp who dropped about 5 command ships 4 bs's and oh yeah 2 thanatos. we of course calmly deagressed and jumped through the gate to discover a similar number of people on the otherside. i mean it certainly got me and elles wondering wtf do we really look that piwatey that we might have brought our own cap ships with us. it seems the blob rules over eve these days and the only way to fight it is another blob but ya can kill stuff in bc's in lowsec its preety easy to catch missio runners and ratter with there pants down still even tho not nearly as common as it was 6 months ago. + being flashy red in lowsec is a big turn on for most blobs... they really love not having to tank sentries.
Inch by inch
play by play
till we're finished.
We are in hell right now, gentlemen

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Wind Ictiva

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 11:47:00 +0000

Originally by: Bashia Petrov
Originally by: maCH'EttE
Veto don't do much gate camping, I think the general thought is 'we all have sentry flag anyway, so why not kill everything we can'. Also, you'd be surprised what drops from shuttles / rookie ships.

I was killed and podded by these guys camping a gate :P guess it must have been one of those rare times Ahh well I learned my lesson that day ! Check your Auto Pilot before hitting engage !

you sure they werent just passing thru? even gangs need to use jump gates to get to the next system. it seems anyone even just close to a gate gets accused of camping it

Originally by: Admiral Love

Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Cikulisuy

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 03:55:00 +0000

dunno what happened to it really. i guess people figured out that ratting in lowsec in anything bigger than a cruiser is suicide.

(which it is btw) me and my corp always honor ransoms, but you dont seem to find many these days.

you will find the occasional ratting battleship or something. last week we found a travel fitted dreadnought.. heavy launchers + phoenix = win? lollololololololol =P

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by techzer0

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 03:07:00 +0000

Originally by: Locutus ofBorg
Originally by: Fox Walken
Problem is downright anti-social behaviour tbh.

No matter what is said in gang or on TS about ransoms, don't shoot, stop shooting we want to ransom him, at least lets ransom the pod....

There is always someone who keeps shooting, always.

Yep... Every corp has a Levi9

Dude.. thats my real name... Soo not cool.

Yeah, every corp has one... make a joke out of it like me and some other guys did, now all we hear on teamspeak is everyone saying "Mine, mine, mine" like the seagulls in finding nemo when someone suggests a ransom in gang.

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Originally by: Praxis1452
you win eve

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Locutus ofBorg

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 02:18:00 +0000

Originally by: Fox Walken
Problem is downright anti-social behaviour tbh.

No matter what is said in gang or on TS about ransoms, don't shoot, stop shooting we want to ransom him, at least lets ransom the pod....

There is always someone who keeps shooting, always.

Yep... Every corp has a Levi9

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Fox Walken

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 01:55:00 +0000

Problem is downright anti-social behaviour tbh.

No matter what is said in gang or on TS about ransoms, don't shoot, stop shooting we want to ransom him, at least lets ransom the pod....

There is always someone who keeps shooting, always.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Avaricia

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 01:50:00 +0000

Originally by: Aaronus
I think low sec has passed me up over the years. I have approached a few pirate corps looking to get one of my characters on the -10 path and seems there is more just indiscriminate killing everything. I mean do you need to be in BS or larger nowadays? Low sec nowadays sounds a whole lot like 0.0 to me. Maybe it's who I have talked to or just the game has changed with so many 1st time billionaires but I never thought of low sec as alot of fleet battles really.

I can't even fly battleships...

commandships, however...

griefmatic - wolf & stabber piracy

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by RuleoftheBone

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 01:43:00 +0000

OP:

Some corps still hold to accepting/honoring ransoms, belt piracy, mission busting and the like as opposed to the "pile on the gate" thang. Most of the guys I know prefer flying cruiser hulls or below on most occasions.

Of course the odd big ship op is fun too .

But you are generally not talking about "fleet" activity....it's usually up close and personal with generally 10-15 ships/side (unless some alliance "relocating to empire to regroup" or "man...lets take tonight off and blob losec with alts" charges thru various pipes full tilt towards Amamake ).

Miners are like Moby ****....scarce. But the ratter/mission runner numbers seem to be picking up a bit (again...some fallout from alliance relocations) and outside of the usual piracy there are good opportunities for gang-v-gang combat versus other pirates and those daring non-outlaws that venture to our side of the tracks.

"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way"
General George Patton USA

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Surfin's PlunderBunny

Fri, 18 Jan 2009 00:43:00 +0000

Well, how we do it is if we got people on we ask who wants to go do something... gang up, go somewhere and kill everything we see

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Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Bashia Petrov

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 23:46:00 +0000

Originally by: maCH'EttE
Veto don't do much gate camping, I think the general thought is 'we all have sentry flag anyway, so why not kill everything we can'. Also, you'd be surprised what drops from shuttles / rookie ships.

I was killed and podded by these guys camping a gate :P guess it must have been one of those rare times Ahh well I learned my lesson that day ! Check your Auto Pilot before hitting engage !

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by jimmyjam

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 23:13:00 +0000

Nothing has really happened to traditional piracy I think a lot of the areas have been over pirated somtime. Belt piracy still happens and ransoming still goes down. Like for me a few days ago I went back to my old stomping grounds in placid and found 3 targets to kill with halfway decent loot in the space of ten minutes.
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Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Locutus ofBorg

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 21:52:00 +0000

Back when i was still pirating i used to be only able to get a fight when i was outnumbered 3 to 1. I didnt care if i lost a geddon or two cause it was fun ya'know? But what really got me ****y was that it was other pirates I had to fight because 90% of Genesis low-sec is pirates and the 10% carebears run for the station once someone enters system. Before Revelations when the static complex's were nerfed, I could count on finding five or six isk farmers in a drone plex and just have fun trying to kill them (Even though they had 3 stabs on a raven). Anyways what im tryin to say is that most Low-Sec piracy has been in decline because of a lack of targets either willing to fight or are too stupid to watch local while they are ratting.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Ashira Twilight

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 21:33:00 +0000

Originally by: Tuloa
I once ran into a gate camp in my n00b ship, carrying nothing at all (besides 1 trit) and they took it out. WHen I left the station in a replaced n00b ship, they took me out again when i arrived at a gate. Seriously, WHAT could i possibly be carrying in a brand new n00b ship that would be worth anything? I've seen some smart pirates, but some just blow up anything they can target, kind-of pointless really.

My alt gets involved with low-sec gatecamps from time to time. Just last week we had a particular incident where a rookie ship dropped 400+mil worth of implants. And that was just what survived.
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The opinions reflected in this post DO reflect the opinions of my corp...of one guy and a bunch of alts.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Exlegion

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 20:01:00 +0000

Originally by: Angela Goethrella
I don't know. I find that belt piracy and ransoms still work pretty well. Managed to nab a hulk yesterday. Let him off nice and cheap (45 mil if memory serves). Sure, most of the more experienced pilots are either off in 0.0 making good bank with the ratting. But there's no real shortage of targets.

I try and ransom 3-4 folks a day, usually ending up popping and podding because they either don't have the funds, or refuse to pay.

But every one of them gets treated with a modicum of pirate courtesy unless it's really unfriendly in local and I don't have the time. (And even fitting advice for those who look like they really need it)

I applaud you and wish low sec was populated with more pirates like yourself. During my first few weeks of Eve I actually met a couple of pirates like yourself. Was ransomed, no smack, and extremely professional and down to business. But you're a dying breed it seems.

A real shame, since low sec would really benefit from your type.

One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Grunanca

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 19:54:00 +0000

Originally by: Steve Hawkings
nope you dont need a bs to be succesful but bigger gangs are becoming more common, most fleet activity is in 0.0 not low sec.
Low sec is more like hunting grounds for people in t2 fitted ships to pop nubs there by mistake it seems.

Wow! The sound of someone talking about something he aparently doesnt have a clue about.

Let me describe a normal sunday in low sec for you:

Morning... People begin to come online and we make a sweep through our home area. Often our headquarter is camped by a couple of antipirates in battleship. If so, we of course remove them and chek out the sorrounding systems. Often we meet some roaming anti pirate gangs or other pirate gangs.

The middle of the day goes by with small gangs flying around and killing stuff. (and not bothering with nubs as they are not worth the gcc)

In the evening we then form a fleet and go to our local mission runner hub. Here we probe some missions and kill the carebear ganks that follows a succesfull probing. After that we move towards one of the biggest pirate hubs where we will get our need for a huge challange put to rest. This will either be a trip home with faction loot or a trip home to buy a new ship.

I dont know where the nubs are in this really... Cept some pirate hunters are often pretty clueless and only fight when outnumbering a lot (and still lose).

So not the battleships at the station... Carebear blob? Nah, more battleships only there to make it a pain for us. What about the good pirate hunters? Well, if you know how to use ecm right in a fleet, you are not a nub either... So what about the mission runners? Oh thats right, if you run L4 mission in low sec you have atleast had the time to learn how the game works too.

Only nub I really encounter are called wisugfkjdff and odfulakhf, and I only bother hooting at them when I need to sell bestowers.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by VicturusTeSaluto

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 19:29:00 +0000

Originally by: Angela Goethrella
I don't know. I find that belt piracy and ransoms still work pretty well. Managed to nab a hulk yesterday. Let him off nice and cheap (45 mil if memory serves).

45mil for a hulk?

You are awfully generous.

I wish I still found hulks in belts with the frequency that I used to. I think people got the message that missions = more profit than mining and almost as much mins too.

Piracy hasn't changed all that much since I started playing, but there are less targets in belts.

Originally by: maCH'EttE

Altho Veto don't do much gate camping, I think the general thought is 'we all have sentry flag anyway, so why not kill everything we can'. Also, you'd be surprised what drops from shuttles / rookie ships.

This. Gatecamping is boring so they might as well kill you. I have gotten nice stuff from rookie ships/shuttles also.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by maCH'EttE

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 19:11:00 +0000

Originally by: Tuloa
I once ran into a gate camp in my n00b ship, carrying nothing at all (besides 1 trit) and they took it out. WHen I left the station in a replaced n00b ship, they took me out again when i arrived at a gate. Seriously, WHAT could i possibly be carrying in a brand new n00b ship that would be worth anything? I've seen some smart pirates, but some just blow up anything they can target, kind-of pointless really.

Altho Veto don't do much gate camping, I think the general thought is 'we all have sentry flag anyway, so why not kill everything we can'. Also, you'd be surprised what drops from shuttles / rookie ships.

Originally by: Devil Hanzo (ISD)
I got pwned!

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Tuloa

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 18:53:00 +0000

I once ran into a gate camp in my n00b ship, carrying nothing at all (besides 1 trit) and they took it out. WHen I left the station in a replaced n00b ship, they took me out again when i arrived at a gate. Seriously, WHAT could i possibly be carrying in a brand new n00b ship that would be worth anything? I've seen some smart pirates, but some just blow up anything they can target, kind-of pointless really.
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There is nothing to fear in death, for no one has come back to complain about it.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by fothern

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 18:12:00 +0000

Originally by: Gaia Thorn
It got heavily nerfed by CCP.

The regular rant:
50% HP boost (increases the blob factor by 10)
WTZ
ECM
Capitals

Not to mention the Torp boost.. Now mission running carebears can out damage most pvp skilled pilots.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Angela Goethrella

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 16:48:00 +0000

I don't know. I find that belt piracy and ransoms still work pretty well. Managed to nab a hulk yesterday. Let him off nice and cheap (45 mil if memory serves). Sure, most of the more experienced pilots are either off in 0.0 making good bank with the ratting. But there's no real shortage of targets.

I try and ransom 3-4 folks a day, usually ending up popping and podding because they either don't have the funds, or refuse to pay.

But every one of them gets treated with a modicum of pirate courtesy unless it's really unfriendly in local and I don't have the time. (And even fitting advice for those who look like they really need it)

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Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Gaia Thorn

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 15:28:00 +0000

It got heavily nerfed by CCP.

The regular rant:
50% HP boost (increases the blob factor by 10)
WTZ
ECM
Capitals

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by ApaKaka

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 15:11:00 +0000

Originally by: Ki An
Haven't seen any fleets moving through where I live, unless you count a 10 man gang as a fleet. My corp generally roam in small gangs of >5 people. Most of the ones we meet generally do that too.

QFT.

Most lowsec pirate corps are smaller entities that do small-gang pvp. The noobs are only collateral, the real fun is when two small gangs run into eachother and do the tango.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Ki An

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 15:09:00 +0000

Haven't seen any fleets moving through where I live, unless you count a 10 man gang as a fleet. My corp generally roam in small gangs of >5 people. Most of the ones we meet generally do that too.

Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Steve Hawkings

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 15:04:00 +0000

nope you dont need a bs to be succesful but bigger gangs are becoming more common, most fleet activity is in 0.0 not low sec.
Low sec is more like hunting grounds for people in t2 fitted ships to pop nubs there by mistake it seems.

Whats happened to traditional piracy? - by Aaronus

Thu, 17 Jan 2009 15:00:00 +0000

I think low sec has passed me up over the years. I have approached a few pirate corps looking to get one of my characters on the -10 path and seems there is more just indiscriminate killing everything. I mean do you need to be in BS or larger nowadays? Low sec nowadays sounds a whole lot like 0.0 to me. Maybe it's who I have talked to or just the game has changed with so many 1st time billionaires but I never thought of low sec as alot of fleet battles really.