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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Siona Windweaver

Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:19:00 +0000

T1 Destroyer with tackling/ewar bonuses.
T1 Battlecruiser with logistics bonuses.

Those would be nice.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:05:00 +0000

Originally by: Nova Fox
Amarr Mobile Ground Command Ship

and

her design notes

That's some impressive artwork.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Nova Fox

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:06:00 +0000

Originally by: Napro
looks like a bug laying on its back

dont most amarr ships do?

New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Napro

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:42:00 +0000

looks like a bug laying on its back

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Nova Fox

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:35:00 +0000

Amarr Mobile Ground Command Ship

and

her design notes

New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:16:00 +0000

Originally by: brinelan
Oh and split weapons are not cool.. not as bad as omni tanking, but still not cool.

What's wrong with split weapon systems? Sure they need more skills to be effective than regular ship, but the typhoon is an awesome ship.

I don't know what you're referencing with the omni tank comment. The proposed slot layout of the Minmitar ships? I made it that way because it's consistent with other Minmitar shield tanks, nearly equal amount of mid and low slots.

Oh, and Nova Fox, I'd love to see a few of your designs.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by brinelan

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:23:00 +0000

we already have 24523434636 t1 ships in game. Why make more? What new fresh balanced roles and specialties would they bring to the table? Sorry, but there are plenty of ships right now that fill a lot of roles.

I looked at your ideas in the linked thread, and instead of wanting every race to have a ship that does everything why not learn the roles of the ships that are in the game now and using the right race/ship for the role you like? Oh and split weapons are not cool.. not as bad as omni tanking, but still not cool.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Nova Fox

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:12:00 +0000

Well if anyone wants to see these ships Ill be happy to post them, please note not all the designs have been finalized or nice looking and some may have been scrapped.

New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Joakim Wasyl

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:47:00 +0000

I'd be happy if some of the existing ships were made a little less pointless. Like destroyers, or the cyclone (which is outclassed in every way by the hurricane).

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Nova Fox

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:45:00 +0000

The idea came about that planetary defense systems would deal massive AOE damage to orbital targets, but the system can only task one gun per target. So as more targets became avilable, the more aoe damage they did. One or two dreads can tank the damage easily start shoving 5 of them and your going to start losing ships. hence the juggers where supposed to reduce the number of targets and increase the amount of firepower so you can tank the damage with 4 juggernatus and do the job of 12 dreads without losing them thus allowing support fire for any ground troops that need planetary strikes on demand and help the ground forces take out the planetary defenses and critical locations. It can do alot of damage to POS but the tracking of the ship is soo shoddy its not acceptable for anti capitol ship role, even out of seige mode.

New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Napro

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:35:00 +0000

Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 17:35:28

Originally by: Nova Fox

4 Juggernaughts (planetary seige platforms/anti station, no tech notes)

Eh? Like a Deathstar? That'd be cool, one-shotting a POS

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Napro

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:33:00 +0000

We have enough freaking ships to provide specialization to every game mechanic.

Until we get new game mechanics , any new ship will just be a small variation on an already existing ship.

I personally would like to see new game mechanics whereby ships that receive hull damage see various systems go offline at random (propulsion/warp, locking ability, shooting ability)

That would certainly give a boost to logistics uses and specialized modules to bring these systems back online, as well as the specialized tractor beam to pull these disabled ships out of the battle to a safespot.

But I suppose more people want the Second Life meets Eve Ambulation crap

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by mentalmonkey

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:23:00 +0000

Dont think new ships is the main thing EVE needs, but I think logistics BS, Ewar dessie and/or BC, Ewar BS would all be good, think Faction BCs with a role woudl be good as well.

Gang 'lecky support ships, designed to counter other races E-war, e.g. bonuses to remote sensor boosting for Caldari, remote ECCM for Gallente, remote tracking for Minmatar and remote Sig-radius-reducer for Ammar. This could be BC / BS sized faction / T1 / T2, possibly also able to fit a remote WCS to get ships out of the fight (I know its a bit lame but it allows other ships than nanos to escape a fight - stealth nerf).

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Nova Fox

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:14:00 +0000

I have the following tech 1 ships drawn in my portfolio and designed

8 new destroyers (no stats)
-4 heavy destroyers (less gank more tank)
-4 multi role (flexifits)

4 Juggernaughts (planetary seige platforms/anti station, no tech notes)

4 New Battlecruisers/Mobile Ground Command Ships (aka Army Landers)

3 SOE Explorer Ships (stats done)
1 SOE Science Capitiol (role being coinflipped)

3 Thukker Mix Salvage Ships (no stats)
1 Thukker Mix Industry Capitol (no stats or role)

3 NOH/Mordus Legion Hacking Ships (heading for the scrap pile, not caldari enough)
1 planned Noh/Mordus Science Capitol (never drawn thus idea scrapped)

7 discarded outdated designs from various classes.

and about 200 non eve ships :P

New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:55:00 +0000

I still want to hear more opinions.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:15:00 +0000

Originally by: Skud Lundgren
Edited by: Skud Lundgren on 14/07/2008 19:55:30
suicide gank ship

5% bonus damage against haulers per level
5% time bonus before concord and gate guns shoot u per level
5% reduction faction standing with nubs per level

oh and i like the custom paint job idea, i would paint some people having intercourse on my ship

I'm assuming that this is satire, but you do bring up a good point. Custom paint jobs would have to be highly restricted to prevent ****ography/obscenities. (even though lag is the bigger issue)

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Takashi X2

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:25:00 +0000

Edited by: Takashi X2 on 14/07/2008 20:30:47
I would like to see non-faction related ships. Like for NPC corp designs. Or new designs all together, or maybe melded ships (like the factions ones only more useable) say amarr and caldari hybrid and a lente min hybrid for now. You could even through in the excuss of war bringing research teams in to create better suited warships or logistic needs. That would even explain why it took so long to come out with these new t1 ships

O o o another fun one would be a light assualt capital ship. General set up would be like this
5/7/5 for shield 5/5/7 for armor. bonuses to tracking/missle velocity, bonuses to ROF, use of cap size weapons, damage bonus
There would be specifically for taking donw other cap ships and battleships. They would also be small enought to use gates while still having a jump drive. Also due to its compactness new Small Capital rep and boost mods will be needed (so they cant WTF Pwn tank everythign like carriers do)

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Bellum Eternus

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:59:00 +0000

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tarminic
I like the idea of more T1 ships, but in order to consider making them you need to consider what role they fulfill that isn't already fulfilled by another ship.

Non-racial mini-Rapier/Huginn

Like, say... a Hyena? It has the skill requirements of a gnat.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Skud Lundgren

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:55:00 +0000

Edited by: Skud Lundgren on 14/07/2008 19:55:30
suicide gank ship

5% bonus damage against haulers per level
5% time bonus before concord and gate guns shoot u per level
5% reduction faction standing with nubs per level

oh and i like the custom paint job idea, i would paint some people having intercourse on my ship

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:12:00 +0000

Originally by: Terianna Eri
Why are there no passenger liners? No interstellar tugboats? The wide range of civilian vessels that you'd expect to see in an expansive universe like EVE?

Not to put down your idea, but what is the point? What purpose would these ships serve? I mean, even the Bellicose has a purpose. (even if that purpose is very limited)

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Zaerlorth Maelkor

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:01:00 +0000

Originally by: ShardowRhino

I'm not sure where you could start with new t1 ships. I'm sure I could give it a minute and come up with stuff. I fly caldari mainly and I gotta say that I hate how the caracal has no tank while the moa does. So a caracal where its bonus is in its tank in some form or another would be cool.

The ships don't have to exactly be tier 4 so that they are "better" then 1-3, just a variation. Look at how many versions car companies put out of the same car. Theres typically 3 versions with slight differences. Then you have the competition putting out their car with its variations. both cars would be equal in price(basically) and the variations would also have slightly different costs.

the standard caracal would be the base model. there could be a model built for speed and another built with more of a tank.

That is of course in addition to different ships altogether. I don't know how many BattleTech fans play Eve but those that do know we have books full of Mech designs. Those books are broken down to 4 weight classes. Theres different "empires" and they all have various designs of their own, not just 4.

The assortment of designs represents the difference in tech over various time frames. Also it represents the fact that there are multiple companies producing their own designs within each empire. All looking to have the best Mech for the weight class for its empire. Not to mention neutral companies selling to anyone that has the money.

Adding new designs wouldn't destroy the game. It would simply give us more variation in Eve. It would give those of us around for a while new things to try out and coming up with your own set ups is part of the fun of eve. Unless of course you just cut and paste someone else's effort like im sure a lot of you do. Those of us that like the constant tweaking and tinkering would obviously welcome additional t1 ships.

i could go on about this but
./agree with the OP.

The variations you talk about, come with the fittings.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Lieutenant Isis

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Zev'Nar
Also a BS sized Salvager Specific ship would be very handy.
Lots of high slots, a couple lows/meds and a big cargo bay.
Maybe a low power requirements and a discount for tractor/salvagers gear.

I think they might already have this. They are called Marauders.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Daftex Muleson

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:36:00 +0000

A change/addition to the T1 ships would be nice for those of us who will never be able to afford the majority of the more specialised ships that have been added recently if nothing else. My god...even the Minmatar must have developed new scrap metal welding techniques in the last few years!

Maybe the option to "paint" your ship with corp/alliance colours. If they could let you do that with IL2 Sturmovik, why not EVE?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Ghengis Tia

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:30:00 +0000

How 'bout a whole new class of rigs that would enable a mad scientist/pilot to switch a turret slot for a launcher slot and vice-versa?

Or being able to install a rig that takes a med slot and makes it a low slot?

That way the customizable aspect of ship outfitting increases geometrically.

I like the OP's ideas, but cross-training other races' ships is the route to go when you want to branch out to different types of warfare..

Not being able to fit a couple of (your favorite weapon here) on (whatever race) ships seems a bit unrealistic given the advanced technologies that exist throughout Eve.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Sirial Soulfly

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:24:00 +0000

What eve desperately needs is new ship hulls, not repainted ships with different stats.

Its been ages since actual new content like that has been added, Id suggest to throw in a massive content update with multiple new ship hulls for all sizes.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Abrazzar

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:15:00 +0000

Considering that there are plenty of open roles that ships can have and some of them would need to be T2 but having the same hulls for T2 over and over again is boring, more T1 hulls are greatly needed.

Here a blurb of some ideas:
Electronic Support ships (against the opposing faction's EWar)
Anti-Faction Ships (counter some of the opposing attack options)
- Caldari: Anti-Drone
- Gallente: Anti-Missile
- Amarr: Anti-Speed
- Minmatar: Anti-Nos/Neut
Smartbomb Specialists
Larger or different Non-ORE Mining ships
Exploration Specialized ships, maybe distinguished by faction in signature type
Actually with Factional Warfare the different factions could be made more significantly different in their means to achieve the same goal.
Ships specifically designed to support capital ships.
With Ambulation Party Ships and Wandering Circuses or Mobile Casinos.

Fact is, that there is a *LOT* that could be added, both in T1 and T2 and new hulls for the new content is something that should come naturally to a prime product.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Skjorta

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:09:00 +0000

I'd take another tech 1 BC please. Maybe EW?

I'm tired of CCP only adding high end t2 ships, with the requirements near a cap to fly. So the majority doesn't even care when things like that are added.

Adding ships that a large portion of the playerbase can fly is a good idea.

I think CCP has gotten lazy...haven't seen any new ship models in ages. Just redone t1 models for t2 ships.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Zev'Nar

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:52:00 +0000

2nd Destroyer.
3rd Battlecruiser.

Also a BS sized Salvager Specific ship would be very handy.
Lots of high slots, a couple lows/meds and a big cargo bay.
Maybe a low power requirements and a discount for tractor/salvagers gear.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Dantes Revenge

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:03:00 +0000

So many players are cross-training so why not have a range of crossbreed ships. Amarr shield tankers and Caldari armor tankers for example. The balance is with the cap, so the cap is increased for Caldari so they have extra for an armor tank and lowered for the Amarr ship since a passive tank is possible for shields. Weapons are still the same so I'd guess the cap would be about equal since the Amarr ship would still need cap for the weapons and the Caldari would need it for the tank.

Since I don't really fly Galente or Minmatar I couldnt say how to crossbreed them, maybe weapons.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by 0thelia Shah

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:37:00 +0000

I would like to see a ship that does the following:

99% reduction in PG required for Super Tractor beam(call it something else)

This ship when fitted with the above module would be able to tow ships away from gates, stations etc.

It would mean that an extremely well tanked ship is not safe in dock/undock games and can in fact be pulled away from safety.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Terianna Eri

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:00:00 +0000

More noncombat ships.
Most ships in eve exist, fundamentally, for the same purpose: shooting at crap.

Combat ships? Shoot at crap.
Industrials? Move stuff to use to shoot at crap.
Miner ships? Eat roids to get mins to make stuff to shoot at crap.

Why are there no passenger liners? No interstellar tugboats? The wide range of civilian vessels that you'd expect to see in an expansive universe like EVE?
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Malen Nenokal

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:50:00 +0000

Edited by: Malen Nenokal on 14/07/2008 05:50:24
a second tier of Destroyer would be fun, maybe something with a salvaging bonus.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Mannliche Frau

Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:35:00 +0000

/signed

More hulls to look at would be nice. Not like balancing would be a big issue since it's hard to make a tech1 ship smaller than battleships overpowered.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Higgs Foton

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:46:00 +0000

Originally by: Gealbhan
If they were going to put in anything else ship related like designs, I wanna be able to do custom paint jobs on my ship.
It would cost you Isk of course for each paint job.

How cool would a black ship with a skull and crossbones look? Maybe a ship with the shark teeth and eyes on the front?
Yeah, I'll keep dreaming...

THIS idea i like. Would be fun to fly around in your own custom painted ship. Part of the fun of counterstrike was spraying your tag in a level, so i second this.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Illwill Jill

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:44:00 +0000

Tier-2 destroyers, and frigs with smartbomb range-bonus, please!

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:15:00 +0000

Originally by: Tarminic

Specifically, seems like a good job for a T2 tier 3 battleships like the Maelstrom or the Rokh, if you ask me.

I dunno, I don't like the idea of more T1 ships being the same old tank and gank, to be honest.

I'd really like to see some more out-of-the-box ships, like a combination of electronic warfare and offensive capabilities - maybe this would be a good role for another set of battlecruisers?

For a ship to effectively have both EW and offense, it would have to be BC or higher. Not a bad idea, but when you start getting too specialized with a tech 1 ship, you may eventually end up with a set of ships that get completely outdated and nearly worthless, like destroyers.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Tarminic

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:00:00 +0000

Originally by: Madam Kaktar
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Level 4 battelsheep

but really, I'd like to see a 'Heavy' BS designed with an anti-cap role on the side.

Just think:
Caldari Tier 4 BS
7 Hi, 7 Med, 6 Low
5x Launcher, 1x Turret
850cpu, 17500pg
10K shields, 7.5K armor 8K struct
No Dronebay

Ship Bonus:
90% PG Reduction bonus on Capital Hybrid Turrets (?)
500% Capital Hybrid damage, 85% Tracking Penalty (?)

Bonuses:
5% Missile ROF per level
25% Shield Transporter range and transfer amount per level

...essentially a Raven, only swap the Dronebay for a Dread Gun and design it for spidertanking. Idea being you could take only a handful of them against a carrier and have a pretty damned good chance of winning

Also makes attacking cyno-jammed systems slightly easier.

Seems like too specialized of a role for tech 1. Sounds more like a tech 2 ship.

Specifically, seems like a good job for a T2 tier 3 battleships like the Maelstrom or the Rokh, if you ask me.

I dunno, I don't like the idea of more T1 ships being the same old tank and gank, to be honest.

I'd really like to see some more out-of-the-box ships, like a combination of electronic warfare and offensive capabilities - maybe this would be a good role for another set of battlecruisers?
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Level 4 battelsheep

but really, I'd like to see a 'Heavy' BS designed with an anti-cap role on the side.

Just think:
Caldari Tier 4 BS
7 Hi, 7 Med, 6 Low
5x Launcher, 1x Turret
850cpu, 17500pg
10K shields, 7.5K armor 8K struct
No Dronebay

Ship Bonus:
90% PG Reduction bonus on Capital Hybrid Turrets (?)
500% Capital Hybrid damage, 85% Tracking Penalty (?)

Bonuses:
5% Missile ROF per level
25% Shield Transporter range and transfer amount per level

...essentially a Raven, only swap the Dronebay for a Dread Gun and design it for spidertanking. Idea being you could take only a handful of them against a carrier and have a pretty damned good chance of winning

Also makes attacking cyno-jammed systems slightly easier.

Seems like too specialized of a role for tech 1. Sounds more like a tech 2 ship.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Jim McGregor

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:57:00 +0000

Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Level 4 battelsheep

Yes, indeed.

She spells wrong on purpose. Feet Kommander is another.

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Can you nano Titans?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Jenny Spitfire

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:53:00 +0000

Originally by: Rawr Cristina

but really, I'd like to see a 'Heavy' BS designed with an anti-cap role on the side.

Just think:
Caldari Tier 4 BS
7 Hi, 7 Med, 6 Low
5x Launcher, 1x Turret
850cpu, 17500pg
10K shields, 7.5K armor 8K struct
No Dronebay

Ship Bonus:
90% PG Reduction bonus on Capital Hybrid Turrets (?)
500% Capital Hybrid damage, 85% Tracking Penalty (?)

Bonuses:
5% Missile ROF per level
25% Shield Transporter range and transfer amount per level

...essentially a Raven, only swap the Dronebay for a Dread Gun and design it for spidertanking. Idea being you could take only a handful of them against a carrier and have a pretty damned good chance of winning

Also makes attacking cyno-jammed systems slightly easier.

I liek this two.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Horizon Taker

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:44:00 +0000

Two words:
Logistics Battleship.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Khlitouris RegusII

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:35:00 +0000

Originally by: Gealbhan
If they were going to put in anything else ship related like designs, I wanna be able to do custom paint jobs on my ship.
It would cost you Isk of course for each paint job.

How cool would a black ship with a skull and crossbones look? Maybe a ship with the shark teeth and eyes on the front?
Yeah, I'll keep dreaming...

Waiting 6 hours for the enemy fleet to load wouldnt be much fun though.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Auron Shadowbane

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:42:00 +0000

I want something that actually uses the advanced spaceship command skill.

a whole skills jsut for one goddamn shiptype (freighter) and as timesink is useless.

give us 3 different types of advanced spaceships right between caps and bs.

something like a capital siced destroyer (would be the equivalent to frigs; cap guns with tracking bonus so they can hit bs and a bs sized tank. a medium sized ship which is in generall a bs MK2 but costs more and is even less agile and easily hitable by real cap guns (cruiser equivalent) and a capital-hunter ship (prolly with a weaker 2-5 minute timed siege mode).

ohh and to not make them not replace BS for fleets only the capital hunter (with guns whicha r eunable to really do damage to supcaps) should be able to use gates while the rest has to utilize a jump-engine as well (but with bigger range than even carrier as they should be more agile than caps).

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:41:00 +0000

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Level 4 battelsheep

Yes, indeed.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Rawr Cristina

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:27:00 +0000

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Level 4 battelsheep

but really, I'd like to see a 'Heavy' BS designed with an anti-cap role on the side.

Just think:
Caldari Tier 4 BS
7 Hi, 7 Med, 6 Low
5x Launcher, 1x Turret
850cpu, 17500pg
10K shields, 7.5K armor 8K struct
No Dronebay

Ship Bonus:
90% PG Reduction bonus on Capital Hybrid Turrets (?)
500% Capital Hybrid damage, 85% Tracking Penalty (?)

Bonuses:
5% Missile ROF per level
25% Shield Transporter range and transfer amount per level

...essentially a Raven, only swap the Dronebay for a Dread Gun and design it for spidertanking. Idea being you could take only a handful of them against a carrier and have a pretty damned good chance of winning

Also makes attacking cyno-jammed systems slightly easier.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Sphynx Stormlord

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:15:00 +0000

It does seem odd to me that there are no tier two destroyers.

I would like to see more of them, especially now there are the faction warfare complexes where destroyers get to be the big fish.

A possible sugestion as to a bonus for them: Smart bomb range; smart bombs are best as an anti frigate weapon, the main role for destroyers is that of anti frigates.
And small smartbombs would need a LOT of loving to be useful. Such as a specialised ship class.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Scagga Laebetrovo

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:14:00 +0000

Faction ships, really.

San Matari Official forums

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Jenny Spitfire

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:01:00 +0000

I liek a midrrange battelsheep leik this for Caladari. Level 4 battelsheep with bonii liek ECM strenth and torepdeo range.

It will be a prefeckt add one for level 4.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by McTard

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:18:00 +0000

Edited by: McTard on 13/07/2008 06:24:47

Originally by: Franga
Originally by: Verone
I agree because Verone said so.

Srsly.

For real.

I might add that I enjoyed seeing Verones (2nd best) sig again. 1st best is the purple/zebra band striped Pimp hat, of course.

Oh and grats on the writing award, reading your stuff now.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Rawr Cristina

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:03:00 +0000

Originally by: Vaal Erit

I REALLY like the anti-missile ewar. Currently there is no anti-missile ewar.

There would be if Defenders worked properly
Besides, that's just one of the advantages of missiles. Considering their disadvantages, I'd say it's easily paid for.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Franga

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:59:00 +0000

Originally by: Verone
I agree because Verone said so.

Srsly.

Originally by: Rachel Vend
... with 100% reliability in most cases ...

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Tarminic

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 05:49:00 +0000

Originally by: Ekrid
Originally by: Tarminic
I'd like to see some new and interesting forms of electronic warfare than currently exist, two varieties for each race. For example:

Minmatar
Sensor Reflectors - reduces the signature radius of the target ship

Amarr
Missile Scramblers - Reduce velocity and explosion radius of missiles

Caldari
Graviton Projectors - Increases the mass of the target ship

Gallente
Thrust Feedback Generator - Reduces the agility of the target ship

That's just stuff I came up with off the top of my head, but with that you could come up with 12 ships (frigate, cruiser, battleship) of each race specializing in that form of e-war. Or maybe you could do something different and create destroyer and BC versions instead...

lawl. reduce velocity and radius of missiles? the first nerfs damage, but only on fast ships, the second will ensure MORE damage.

Does noone but me understand missiles. GFG..

Well obviously I meant increase the explosion radius, you ninny E-War probably shouldn't boost your opponents' ships.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Vaal Erit

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:30:00 +0000

Originally by: Tarminic
I'd like to see some new and interesting forms of electronic warfare than currently exist, two varieties for each race. For example:

Minmatar
Sensor Reflectors - reduces the signature radius of the target ship

Amarr
Missile Scramblers - Reduce velocity and explosion radius of missiles

Caldari
Graviton Projectors - Increases the mass of the target ship

Gallente
Thrust Feedback Generator - Reduces the agility of the target ship

That's just stuff I came up with off the top of my head, but with that you could come up with 12 ships (frigate, cruiser, battleship) of each race specializing in that form of e-war. Or maybe you could do something different and create destroyer and BC versions instead...

Quoting the first interesting idea in the thread.

The -sig radius and -mass/agility mods were both tested on CCPs internal testing servers and never even made it to Sisi afaik which means they are superpowerful or CCP just thought they'd unbalance the game.

I REALLY like the anti-missile ewar. Currently there is no anti-missile ewar. It is pretty biased that you can wtfpwn a turret ship with 1-2 TDs but missiles no way. Defender missiles are in the game but are lol dumb.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Trathen

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:15:00 +0000

How about new ones like a select few of the old ones, only prettier?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Ekrid

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:11:00 +0000

Originally by: Tarminic
I'd like to see some new and interesting forms of electronic warfare than currently exist, two varieties for each race. For example:

Minmatar
Sensor Reflectors - reduces the signature radius of the target ship

Amarr
Missile Scramblers - Reduce velocity and explosion radius of missiles

Caldari
Graviton Projectors - Increases the mass of the target ship

Gallente
Thrust Feedback Generator - Reduces the agility of the target ship

That's just stuff I came up with off the top of my head, but with that you could come up with 12 ships (frigate, cruiser, battleship) of each race specializing in that form of e-war. Or maybe you could do something different and create destroyer and BC versions instead...

lawl. reduce velocity and radius of missiles? the first nerfs damage, but only on fast ships, the second will ensure MORE damage.

Does noone but me understand missiles. GFG..

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Ekrid

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:10:00 +0000

We need more T1 frigates to flesh out other roles, such as logistics.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Tarminic

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:51:00 +0000

I'd like to see some new and interesting forms of electronic warfare than currently exist, two varieties for each race. For example:

Minmatar
Sensor Reflectors - reduces the signature radius of the target ship

Amarr
Missile Scramblers - Reduce velocity and explosion radius of missiles

Caldari
Graviton Projectors - Increases the mass of the target ship

Gallente
Thrust Feedback Generator - Reduces the agility of the target ship

That's just stuff I came up with off the top of my head, but with that you could come up with 12 ships (frigate, cruiser, battleship) of each race specializing in that form of e-war. Or maybe you could do something different and create destroyer and BC versions instead...
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by McTard

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:47:00 +0000

More choices is generally better I guess. Particularly for low-mid sp rookies.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Ariko Gunaris

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:00:00 +0000

I'd like to see,

another tier 1 battleship for each race
another tier 1 battlecruiser for each race, perhaps a logistics flavor
tier 3 destroyers with a unique flavor
another tier 3 tech 1 frigate for each race, perhaps a bomber

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:55:00 +0000

Edited by: Hannobaal on 13/07/2008 00:56:02

Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Hannobaal
And it's not like the ships you had in mind absolutely would have to be called Corvettes, you know?

...it was the outline of a concept, so of course they don't HAVE to be called Corvettes.

Some people argue just for the sake of it I guess

Yes. Yes, apparently they do. Why else would you waste two posts defending something and then being sarcastic about it, when you allready knew you were wrong?

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:48:00 +0000

Edited by: Hannobaal on 13/07/2008 00:48:54

Originally by: Shadow Saint
capitals are t1 ships, you have gotten plenty of new t1 ships

All capital ships were allready in the game when I started playing Eve a year and a half ago. I don't actually even know when they were added. So, hardly a recent thing.

The last big batch of tech 1 ships came at the end of the fall of 2006 with Revelations I (right when I started), and that was the tier 2 battlecruisers and tier 3 battleships. Trinity, at the end of last year, gave us a big batch of new tech 2 ships. My guess would be that this fall's expansion will bring new tech 1 ships.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Shadow Saint

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:26:00 +0000

capitals are t1 ships, you have gotten plenty of new t1 ships
Just floating around 0.0

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:09:00 +0000

Thanks for the comments, guys.

Quote:
They added the Magnate to the amarr frigate line with EA

I said combat ships, but yes the Magnate was a nice addition.

Quote:
Also the Drake and all its counter parts are T1

That's been about two years ago since those were added.

Ok, so the general feeling I'm getting:
-Most want new ships
-Most are not opposed to new T1 ships
-about half want new T1 ships
-everyone has their own ideas as to what would improve the game, some good, some are a little...how can I put this...strange.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Verone

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:38:00 +0000

Originally by: Hannobaal
And it's not like the ships you had in mind absolutely would have to be called Corvettes, you know?

...it was the outline of a concept, so of course they don't HAVE to be called Corvettes.

Some people argue just for the sake of it I guess

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:35:00 +0000

Originally by: Verone

Well, 21,000 years into the future, in a completely different star cluster to our own, billions of lightyears away, after the complete and utter catastrophic collapse of society and it's slow recovery over the last 15 millenia... some, just some might say... that the people desiging spacecraft really don't need, or have much knowledge of classification when it comes to putting names to ship groups...

I mean, it's a long shot... but maybe.

Well, it seems they do since everything else in Eve, aside from Capitals, works the same as for real life naval combat vessels (or at least naval vessels from the first half of the last century).

Frigates
Destroyers
Cruisers
Battlecruisers
Battleships

A Corvette would be more like a mini-frigate, if you're staying consistent with what we allready have. And it's not like the ships you had in mind absolutely would have to be called Corvettes, you know?

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Paaaulo

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:35:00 +0000

Originally by: Banana Torres
Yes, we need t1 ships that have a high base speed, low mass and plenty of low slots.

So allowing newer players to join the nano party.

I do believe the stabber already exists.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Verone

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:23:00 +0000

Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 12/07/2008 13:10:30

To be honest, I'd like to see some Corvette class ships.

Salvage corvettes based on ships about the size of destroyers (with new models obviously), but more durable that can be used solely for salvage and looting.

Repair corvettes, again, roughly the size of a destroyer, agile, beefy defense and fast for use with interceptor and assault frigate gangs as a mini logistics ships.

I'd also like to see a new class of T1 transport, somewhere between the freighter and standard industrials we have now, maybe about 300,000m3 of space, based on a new hull that could be priced a round 4-450m and give smaller corporations the transport boost they need without having to shell out a billion for a freighter.

The list goes on, I can think of hundreds more uses for t1 ships that would be viable, and bring something to the game.

I don't know why you would call ships that are destroyer size "Corvettes" though. Corvettes in real life are smaller than frigates.

Well, 21,000 years into the future, in a completely different star cluster to our own, billions of lightyears away, after the complete and utter catastrophic collapse of society and it's slow recovery over the last 15 millenia... some, just some might say... that the people desiging spacecraft really don't need, or have much knowledge of classification when it comes to putting names to ship groups...

I mean, it's a long shot... but maybe.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 12/07/2008 13:10:30

To be honest, I'd like to see some Corvette class ships.

Salvage corvettes based on ships about the size of destroyers (with new models obviously), but more durable that can be used solely for salvage and looting.

Repair corvettes, again, roughly the size of a destroyer, agile, beefy defense and fast for use with interceptor and assault frigate gangs as a mini logistics ships.

I'd also like to see a new class of T1 transport, somewhere between the freighter and standard industrials we have now, maybe about 300,000m3 of space, based on a new hull that could be priced a round 4-450m and give smaller corporations the transport boost they need without having to shell out a billion for a freighter.

The list goes on, I can think of hundreds more uses for t1 ships that would be viable, and bring something to the game.

I don't know why you would call ships that are destroyer size "Corvettes" though. Corvettes in real life are smaller than frigates.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Verone

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:10:00 +0000

Edited by: Verone on 12/07/2008 13:10:30

To be honest, I'd like to see some Corvette class ships.

Salvage corvettes based on ships about the size of destroyers (with new models obviously), but more durable that can be used solely for salvage and looting.

Repair corvettes, again, roughly the size of a destroyer, agile, beefy defense and fast for use with interceptor and assault frigate gangs as a mini logistics ships.

I'd also like to see a new class of T1 transport, somewhere between the freighter and standard industrials we have now, maybe about 300,000m3 of space, based on a new hull that could be priced a round 4-450m and give smaller corporations the transport boost they need without having to shell out a billion for a freighter.

The list goes on, I can think of hundreds more uses for t1 ships that would be viable, and bring something to the game.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Gealbhan

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:10:00 +0000

Originally by: Elysarian
Nobody has yet come up with the idea that's been rattling around in my brain since the boards started getting flooded with "nano whiners"...

Pilotable fighters.

A ship, similar in size to a shuttle (i.e smaller than a frigate) that's capable of fitting small weapons and/or a limited range of modules.

The idea being that they'd be difficult to hit with anything bigger than another fighter or a small drone but would be a lot quicker & more manouverable than current ships - allowing them to chase down nano's and possibly (assuming they could be fitted with the required modules) scram or web the target.

Feel free to flame me if you need to

Interceptors?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Elysarian

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:00:00 +0000

Nobody has yet come up with the idea that's been rattling around in my brain since the boards started getting flooded with "nano whiners"...

Pilotable fighters.

A ship, similar in size to a shuttle (i.e smaller than a frigate) that's capable of fitting small weapons and/or a limited range of modules.

The idea being that they'd be difficult to hit with anything bigger than another fighter or a small drone but would be a lot quicker & more manouverable than current ships - allowing them to chase down nano's and possibly (assuming they could be fitted with the required modules) scram or web the target.

Feel free to flame me if you need to

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by ShardowRhino

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:29:00 +0000

I'm not sure where you could start with new t1 ships. I'm sure I could give it a minute and come up with stuff. I fly caldari mainly and I gotta say that I hate how the caracal has no tank while the moa does. So a caracal where its bonus is in its tank in some form or another would be cool.

The ships don't have to exactly be tier 4 so that they are "better" then 1-3, just a variation. Look at how many versions car companies put out of the same car. Theres typically 3 versions with slight differences. Then you have the competition putting out their car with its variations. both cars would be equal in price(basically) and the variations would also have slightly different costs.

the standard caracal would be the base model. there could be a model built for speed and another built with more of a tank.

That is of course in addition to different ships altogether. I don't know how many BattleTech fans play Eve but those that do know we have books full of Mech designs. Those books are broken down to 4 weight classes. Theres different "empires" and they all have various designs of their own, not just 4.

The assortment of designs represents the difference in tech over various time frames. Also it represents the fact that there are multiple companies producing their own designs within each empire. All looking to have the best Mech for the weight class for its empire. Not to mention neutral companies selling to anyone that has the money.

Adding new designs wouldn't destroy the game. It would simply give us more variation in Eve. It would give those of us around for a while new things to try out and coming up with your own set ups is part of the fun of eve. Unless of course you just cut and paste someone else's effort like im sure a lot of you do. Those of us that like the constant tweaking and tinkering would obviously welcome additional t1 ships.

i could go on about this but
./agree with the OP.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Hannobaal

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:05:00 +0000

Originally by: masternerdguy
we need a t2 drake, with twice the tanking power and half the firepower. In fact, a whole role! I got it!
Heres my idea.....
Each faction gets a new battlecruiser
They are Survivor class.
They are extremely effective tanks, can be used for baiting, tanking 0.0 complexes, etc. But they have a price.
Here are the pros (per level of Survivors skill):
+50% bonus to shield (or armor) amount
50% reduction in shield recharge time (for caldari passive t2 drake)
50% reduction in repair module capacitor need (for armor reppers)
50% bonus to shield boost amount (for active shield tanks)

But as with all this gain comes some hard hitting cons.
-75% to turret tracking
-75% to missile launcher rate of fire
+75% to reload time of modules
+75% to turret rate of fire.

Basically this ship is a solid tank, but a poor poor hitter.

OMG, just stop allready!

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Gealbhan

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:04:00 +0000

If they were going to put in anything else ship related like designs, I wanna be able to do custom paint jobs on my ship.
It would cost you Isk of course for each paint job.

How cool would a black ship with a skull and crossbones look? Maybe a ship with the shark teeth and eyes on the front?
Yeah, I'll keep dreaming...

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Malcanis

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:03:00 +0000

I'd like to see a full range of useful faction ships.

CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Crumplecorn

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:02:00 +0000

Remove T2 ships.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by justsometrader

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:59:00 +0000

Originally by: Jacob Mei
What we really, really need.... is more cowbell. MORE COWBELL!!

do you mean a KUHGLOCKE ?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by DesertFox1940

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:12:00 +0000

This Is Just My Idea But For New T1 Id Go With A Different Class Of Frigate, Like Heavy Frigate/Light Frig you know stuff like that, Also this is random but id be cool to have escort carriers

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by masternerdguy

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:55:00 +0000

we need a t2 drake, with twice the tanking power and half the firepower. In fact, a whole role! I got it!
Heres my idea.....
Each faction gets a new battlecruiser
They are Survivor class.
They are extremely effective tanks, can be used for baiting, tanking 0.0 complexes, etc. But they have a price.
Here are the pros (per level of Survivors skill):
+50% bonus to shield (or armor) amount
50% reduction in shield recharge time (for caldari passive t2 drake)
50% reduction in repair module capacitor need (for armor reppers)
50% bonus to shield boost amount (for active shield tanks)

But as with all this gain comes some hard hitting cons.
-75% to turret tracking
-75% to missile launcher rate of fire
+75% to reload time of modules
+75% to turret rate of fire.

Basically this ship is a solid tank, but a poor poor hitter.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Gorthauran

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:36:00 +0000

CCP can't even balance the ships we have...lets just leave it at that for now eh?

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Ioci

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:25:00 +0000

No need but I expected to see some Jove ships. I expect them to contribute to the loot table if we do get Jove though, not the BPO list. Most end game stuff is loot now. officer/ faction etc.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Akita T

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 06:13:00 +0000

Originally by: Tarminic
I like the idea of more T1 ships, but in order to consider making them you need to consider what role they fulfill that isn't already fulfilled by another ship.

Non-racial mini-Rapier/Huginn

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Akita T

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:51:00 +0000

Tech 1, Tier 2 destroyers -> racial EWar strength and optimal bonus on Destroyers skill, -50% cap use for EWar modules role bonus
Tech 1, Tier 3 destroyers -> 30% propulsion jamming range per Destroyers skill level, -50% cap use for PJ modules role bonus
Tech 1, Tier 3 battlecruisers -> 10% propulsion jamming range per Battlecruisers skill level, second bonus for racial EWar strength

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Tarminic

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:51:00 +0000

I like the idea of more T1 ships, but in order to consider making them you need to consider what role they fulfill that isn't already fulfilled by another ship.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Joe Starbreaker

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:50:00 +0000

More ships = good!
I don't like any of your ideas really, though.
Let's just leave the ship design to CCP. As long as they give us MORE we'll be happy. More frigates, more destroyers, more battleships, more more more.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by ghost st

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:42:00 +0000

Personally i would like to see an ewar based bs for every race, bs-side arbitrator = sexeh.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Rawr Cristina

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:33:00 +0000

I want a cruiser-sized Drake. No, the Caracal dosen't cut it
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Mike Ludkips

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:27:00 +0000

The only thing EVE needs is space whales!

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Jacob Mei

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:19:00 +0000

What we really, really need.... is more cowbell. MORE COWBELL!!
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Banana Torres

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:53:00 +0000

Yes, we need t1 ships that have a high base speed, low mass and plenty of low slots.

So allowing newer players to join the nano party.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Eran Laude

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:48:00 +0000

The only combat ships I think need adding are T2 Abaddons, Hypes, Maels and Rokhs. There is so much versatility in any one race's combat fleet [T1 and T2 combined] that even these ships would just be nice additions to round the racial fleets out, and not necessary for any balance issues.

T1 is spent, T2 is essentially complete. They're looking to expand industrial fleets [Orca, Small Freigter] before looking at moar pew ships. This is something I agree with - not every new ship can be a terrifying weapon of pown, some must be weapons of roidage.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Mia Archer

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:03:00 +0000

Originally by: Treelox
who flys amarr

Lots of titan pilots apparently

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Jawas

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:01:00 +0000

I would say yes. Variations are always welcome and T1 ships are the ones anyone with a few skills can fly. They are also cheap, and good for PVP since the insurance means you don't lose a great deal. Not faction variants but more cheap T1 basic ships to get more people into PVP.

T2 are specialised, skill intensive and very expensive to replace. Faction ships are just very expensive and similar to T2 in isurance loss. PVP in these are really for the elite players who have plenty of isk to throw around.

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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Treelox

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:43:00 +0000

Originally by: Mia Archer
They added the Magnate to the amarr frigate line with EA

{insert obligatory "who flys amarr" statement here}, just to get it out of the way.....

p.s. I think my anathema is more sexy for this change.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Mia Archer

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:18:00 +0000

They added the Magnate to the amarr frigate line with EA

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Spineker

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:16:00 +0000

As for more ships I don't see a problem with it. Just having different shapes and designs would be cool. More the merrier.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Gimpb

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:15:00 +0000

Edited by: Gimpb on 12/07/2008 03:17:30
A new tier of BSs could be cool, perhaps with non combat bonusses like repping, neuting, tracking disruptor / sensor damper range bonusses, etc.

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by DubanFP

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:14:00 +0000

Originally by: Vaal Erit
No thanks. I can fit the existing ships to pretty much fill most roles needed in the game. You propose more gank/tank T1 ships which we already have enough of.

Pretty much this. The thing is by design T1 ships are pretty standard and really can't be specialized. So adding more T1 ships will just wind up with slight changes to already existing thips. While T2 ships are the highly specialized ships that you can get infinately creative with.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Spineker

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:11:00 +0000

Edited by: Spineker on 12/07/2008 03:11:33
I thought they just added some ugly t1 ships. The navy ships

Also the Drake and all its counter parts are T1

Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Vaal Erit

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:11:00 +0000

No thanks. I can fit the existing ships to pretty much fill most roles needed in the game. You propose more gank/tank T1 ships which we already have enough of.
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Who thinks there is a need for more tech 1 ships - by Madam Kaktar

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:08:00 +0000

There have been at least three expansions (EA, Trinity, Revelations II) since we have gotten an new tech 1 combat ships. We have gotten many new tech 2 ships since then, but as with all tech 2 ships, they are very skill intensive and pricey.

So this brings me to my point: does the Eve community want new T1 ships?

I know that I have wanted more tech 1 hulls for a long time. I have also spent a lot of time developing my ideas as to what ships I think could be beneficial to the game. They are on display in the Features & ideas forum: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=820388

Do you think that it's time that eve gets more ships? If so, what would you like to see added?