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Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Snasty

Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:58:00 +0000

Originally by: Livia Sanders
Snasty thanks for support. Yep, updates are planned, but later. Im dying for vacation and prever not to spend free time infront of PC :)

I have'nt setup dedicated server, thats why website is running on my home PC which is ussualy offline.

Fair enough, thanks for the feedback.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:11:00 +0000

Snasty thanks for support. Yep, updates are planned, but later. Im dying for vacation and prever not to spend free time infront of PC :)

I have'nt setup dedicated server, thats why website is running on my home PC which is ussualy offline.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Snasty

Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:18:00 +0000

Digging up a rather old thread I know, but I am very fond of this app and wonder if any further development is planned.

I note that the web site listed in OP is dead, are you? I do hope not..

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:22:00 +0000

Edited by: Livia Sanders on 14/08/2008 19:22:09
Saya Vhersoul, refer to this reply

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Saya Vhersoul

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:59:00 +0000

Anyone know?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Saya Vhersoul

Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:37:00 +0000

okay got a noob quesiton for ya, i really like this tool i'm just confused by one thing:

under market orders -> quantity it shows this:

0/100/100/1
or another example
97/97/100/1

what does that all mean? part of it i think i understand but i'd rather see you explain it so i'm know exactly what it means.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Emporia Tzard

Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:11:00 +0000

I did at first put in the limited API by accident, but later changed it for Full API and it still wouldn't update. I even deleted the profile files and tried again but still would not update.

This morning however I have tried again (no more changes were made) and it all works.

Nice App by the way. I like it's simple layout. Only thing I can't figure out how to use is the Star Map, even If is choose two locations that I have been trading in. Not a big deal as the rest of it is great.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:27:00 +0000

Edited by: Livia Sanders on 08/08/2008 07:27:26
Hel O'Ween, thanks for your help m8 :)

Emporia Tzard, most probably you are using limited API key.

Apachu, yep, as a first step will be excluding corp info from personal info.

Anest Dura, it's a green line on dashboard. its calculated as daily gross - avg. buy price for every sold item.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Anest Dura

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:57:00 +0000

Is there a way in this software to see "pure profit". So basically i want to find out how much money I made in one day and that will take in effect how much I bought the item for as well as how much I sold it for to equal the net profit. Any help would be great.

Thanks :)

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Apachu

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:59:00 +0000

Very nice tool indeed. Would like to have the distinction between corp/personal wallet/transactions/contracts/orders. Would be perfect then

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Emporia Tzard

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:46:00 +0000

This doesn't seem to work for me, or maybe I'm just missing something.
Installed Eve Trader. Forced Update and the balance of my 3 characters appears, but none of the other screens have anything in them.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Hel O'Ween

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:03:00 +0000

Originally by: northwesten
Edited by: northwesten on 07/08/2008 06:54:36
Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: Livia Sanders

northwesten, that's really wired, since no one reported about this kind of behaviour before I guess its something related to your specific situation. Are you a corp ceo? Unfortunately all my chars are in npc corps and I cant check it right now. :(

I'm guessing here, so I might be completely wrong, but eventually it leads you onto the right track. There are two kinds of "corporation transactions".

1) Transactions will appear in the personal wallet (/char/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx), if that char has the corp right "Accountant" and buys/sells that specific item on behalf of his corp. These kind of transactions are marked in the API download with "transactionFor=corporation". If you're just after personal wallet data, you need to filter these out.

2) The "real" corporation wallet transactions (/corp/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx). Shows all transactions for the corp done by corp members. Basically, by adding together all transactions from personal wallets that are done on behalf of the corporation, you should end up with the exact same transactions.

HTH,
Hel

I mean EVEwalletaware has it right. It show the corp correct isk and personal. Also the tran is correct too!

Thanks for the kind words. I have the advantage to be in a corp and enjoy director privileges, therefore it's easy for me to figure out this stuff.

Quote:

I mean for me a whole graph and Monthly corp report for IPO on your just be fine with me.

If you're willing to, could you send me an explanation of how you'd like a "report" (a *very* broad term) to look like? See EVEWalletAware's web site for contact information. We don't need to spam Livia's thread with this.

Quote:

Tho more programs the better to make sure everyone on there toes

I wholeheartedly agree. That's why I try to help Livia here, although she's a "competitor".
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Eve Trader, yet another tool - by northwesten

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 06:44:00 +0000

Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: Livia Sanders

northwesten, that's really wired, since no one reported about this kind of behaviour before I guess its something related to your specific situation. Are you a corp ceo? Unfortunately all my chars are in npc corps and I cant check it right now. :(

I'm guessing here, so I might be completely wrong, but eventually it leads you onto the right track. There are two kinds of "corporation transactions".

oh i look again! hold on

1) Transactions will appear in the personal wallet (/char/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx), if that char has the corp right "Accountant" and buys/sells that specific item on behalf of his corp. These kind of transactions are marked in the API download with "transactionFor=corporation". If you're just after personal wallet data, you need to filter these out.

2) The "real" corporation wallet transactions (/corp/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx). Shows all transactions for the corp done by corp members. Basically, by adding together all transactions from personal wallets that are done on behalf of the corporation, you should end up with the exact same transactions.

HTH,
Hel

Trinity Corporate Services

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by northwesten

Thu, 7 Aug 2008 06:42:00 +0000

Originally by: Livia Sanders

northwesten, that's really wired, since no one reported about this kind of behaviour before I guess its something related to your specific situation. Are you a corp ceo? Unfortunately all my chars are in npc corps and I cant check it right now. :(

too be honest not just you its also EMMA as well done the same thing. I am a corp CEO but even the corp doesn't have that amount! unless its including my assest! but my corp wallet is pretty low anyhow

Trinity Corporate Services

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Dooom Bringer

Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:47:00 +0000

yep after deleting the setting.xml and reload api to get char's back and new data imported it all looks great now

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:12:00 +0000

Latest hotfix supposed to fix all price problems and its only for NEW data. Unfortunately there is no easy way to fix existing values (unless you are familiar with XML).

Here is a solution:
The easiest way is to find Eve Trader settings file and delete it, it will reset Eve Trader and all invalid data
XP/2k3: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\EveTrader\settings.xml
Vista: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\EveTrader\settings.xml

if your don't have a problems with prices you don't have to do anything. :)

Jons Squire, thanks, fixed typos.

Imagine a situation you have a sell order. Your are selling 10 items of something, 3 items are already sold, and there are 45 of 90 days left until expiration. Knowing the fact that only 3 of 10 items were sold and order is half expired allow as to presume that order won't be sold completely, and only 3 items will be sold in remaining period.

According to this data we can estimate:
1. real number of items to be sold in remaining period (first number in Quantity column)
2. their total price (Estimated column)
3. time until order buyout (ETCB column) funny, I don't remember why I named it so :) I swear never to use abbreviations again :)

Gremrod, thanks :)

Hel O'Ween? thanks again for info ill do another hotfix tommorow

Vodnik Theseus, yep, I'm about to own one. The reason I'm not doing it right now is I'm about to upgrade my PC this weekend and to make server from old one.

Lubimchik, it would be nice, but please if you going to write some code contact me first, just to discuss ideas your are going to implement.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Lubimchik

Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:00:00 +0000

Sense its open source, I Could add the corperation wallet features in if there is a high demand for something like this.

With no intent to sound greedy but after all we are in the business forums of eve. What do you think something like this could make me isk wise?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Dooom Bringer

Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:55:00 +0000

Originally by: Livia Sanders
Dooom Bringer, your problem with 2 dec seems to be fixed, hotfix released.

:(

cool this program autoupdated to patch and the market is now showing the rigth amounts..

Sadly the any old data in wallet and transaction still has this error i try to find the eve trader folder to delete old database and start from start but can not find said folder ..

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Vodnik Theseus

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:05:00 +0000

Why don't you just go get a normal server like normal people, that's up 24/7?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Dooom Bringer

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 22:24:00 +0000

Originally by: Livia Sanders
Dooom Bringer, your problem with 2 dec seems to be fixed, hotfix released.

sorry to IE is showing "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" for your website

and the eve trader is not autodownloading update's

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Hel O'Ween

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:47:00 +0000

Originally by: Livia Sanders

northwesten, that's really wired, since no one reported about this kind of behaviour before I guess its something related to your specific situation. Are you a corp ceo? Unfortunately all my chars are in npc corps and I cant check it right now. :(

I'm guessing here, so I might be completely wrong, but eventually it leads you onto the right track. There are two kinds of "corporation transactions".

1) Transactions will appear in the personal wallet (/char/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx), if that char has the corp right "Accountant" and buys/sells that specific item on behalf of his corp. These kind of transactions are marked in the API download with "transactionFor=corporation". If you're just after personal wallet data, you need to filter these out.

2) The "real" corporation wallet transactions (/corp/WalletTransactions.xml.aspx). Shows all transactions for the corp done by corp members. Basically, by adding together all transactions from personal wallets that are done on behalf of the corporation, you should end up with the exact same transactions.

HTH,
Hel
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EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Gremrod

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:21:00 +0000

very nice. I like it!

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Jons Squire

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:16:00 +0000

I like the interface and the way it works. Big problem - all prices seem to be out by a factor of 100. I really have 150 Million in my wallet, not the 15 Billion Eve Trader reports. All the prices in the Wallet Transaction Tab and Market Order Tab have the same problem.

In the Report Tab - I think "Sold To The Amount" should really be "Gross Sales"

In Market Orders, I can't figure out what the extra columns are in the Quantity column or what the "Estimated" column tells me.

The Release notes should be for Eve "Trader" - not Eve "Triader"

Great work - just a few bugs.
NATI!

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:12:00 +0000

Dooom Bringer, your problem with 2 dec seems to be fixed, hotfix released.

Hel O'Ween, thanks for info on parsing numbers. I see there is almost no difference between corporate and personal data so ill try to do something.

Misamo, fixed, now it will appear in English :)

northwesten, that's really wired, since no one reported about this kind of behaviour before I guess its something related to your specific situation. Are you a corp ceo? Unfortunately all my chars are in npc corps and I cant check it right now. :(

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Ita Est

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:11:00 +0000

running it on vista 32 with a swiss/german localization it will not download any data and gives the following error message:

bei System.Number.StringToNumber(String str, NumberStyles options, NumberBuffer& number, NumberFormatInfo info, Boolean parseDecimal)
bei System.Number.ParseDouble(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
bei System.Double.Parse(String s, NumberStyles style, NumberFormatInfo info)
bei System.Convert.ToDouble(String value)
bei Core.Network.EveApi.Requests.WalletTransactionsRequest.b__1(XElement r)
bei System.Linq.Enumerable.d__d2.MoveNext()
bei System.Linq.Enumerable.d__871.MoveNext()
bei System.Linq.Buffer1..ctor(IEnumerable1 source)
bei System.Linq.OrderedEnumerable1.d__0.MoveNext()
bei System.Collections.Generic.List1..ctor(IEnumerable1 collection)
bei System.Linq.Enumerable.ToList[TSource](IEnumerable1 source)
bei Core.Updaters.CharacterWalletTransactionsUpdater.UpdateCharacter(Character character)
bei Core.Updaters.CharacterUpdater.UpdateCharacter(Character character)
bei EveTrader.Main.MainWindow.UpdateCharactersAndInitialize()
bei EveTrader.Main.MainWindow.forceUpdateToolStripMenuItem_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
bei System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

any ideas? it seems to work on other systems running vista

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by northwesten

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:15:00 +0000

this is weird! If its for personal wallet then its wrong! There seems to be a confusing with the info.

It says I have 972mil in my wallet O.o tho with my sale order i have thats up is under corp but it shows a few itema that i got them up on personal sale.... So of course the graph said i had over a bill 29th july but never been near that over 6 months O.o

Trinity Corporate Services

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by northwesten

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:53:00 +0000

Originally by: Ricdics
I would pay handsomely for corporate functionality (hint, hint)

what he said

Trinity Corporate Services

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Misamo

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:27:00 +0000

This is what I see when I check the URL quoted. And no I am not from Russia :)

Что такое Eve Trader?
Eve Trader это бесплатная и удобная тулза для трейдеров Eve-Online. Очень сильно облегчает жизнь, отображая удобным образом рыночные операции заданных чаров. Eve Trader работает через Eve-Online API.
Для кого Eve Trader?
В первую очередь Eve Trader будет полезен трейдерам, которые покупают и продают различные товары, у него есть отчеты по которым по которым удобно отслеживать упомянутые операции (см. скрины).
Почему Eve Trader?

Eve Trader позиционируется в первую очередь как удобная и полезная тулза. Это молодая тулза, поэтому некоторых полезных возможностей в ней нет, зато то что есть, с уверенностью можно сказать работает на порядок лучше чем у остальных.

Eve Trader не требует установки базы данных, единственное что ему мужно это .NET framework 3.5 который будет установлен автоматически.

Eve Trader постоянно растет и развивается.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Dooom Bringer

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:59:00 +0000

Edited by: Dooom Bringer on 05/08/2008 17:01:09

Originally by: Hel O'Ween

Re: Corp wallet. Coding wise that's pretty much the same like personal wallet, just 6 of them. Just add a column "Wallet" where you store the wallet ID (personal = always 1000, corp 1000 - 1006) and another column that indicates if its a corp wallet or a personal entry. Done.

if you get the corp wallet going it be nice to have a option to change a transaction from personal to corp as i have in the past forget to click the the little box and sold a corp item as personal instead of corp

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Hel O'Ween

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:46:00 +0000

Edited by: Hel O''Ween on 05/08/2008 16:49:41

Originally by: Dooom Bringer
ok i am running this on a quad core vista,
the problem i am having is that the value of items is 2 dec points out i.e. i have a item in game selling for 30 mill and this program is showing it at 3 billion and i have other items where the dec point is 2 points to the rigth too on buy and sell..

This sounds very familiar. Clearly a localisation issue, where local settings for thousand separator and decimal separator are not taken into account. Livia, see http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=562102&page=2#31 for a possible solution.

Re: Corp wallet. Coding wise that's pretty much the same like personal wallet, just 6 of them. Just add a column "Wallet" where you store the wallet ID (personal = always 1000, corp 1000 - 1006) and another column that indicates if its a corp wallet or a personal entry. Done.
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Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Dooom Bringer

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:33:00 +0000

ok i am running this on a quad core vista,
the problem i am having is that the value of items is 2 dec points out i.e. i have a item in game selling for 30 mill and this program is showing it at 3 billion and i have other items where the dec point is 2 points to the rigth too on buy and sell..

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Ricdics

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:30:00 +0000

I would pay handsomely for corporate functionality (hint, hint)

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:17:00 +0000

Originally by: Vhaluus
any chance of seeing its source code? I make a policy of not using independent programs like this unless I can compile them myself.

Yes, sure, you may find source here: svn://ado.me.uk:9130/.NET Projects/3.5/EveTrader
login/pass: EveTraderUser/EveTraderUser
there are current development version in trunk and published version in branch 1.2
Let me know if you have and troubles.

Originally by: Misamo
It sure looks good and sounds like a useful tool. Will it run an vista?
and btw is there a site with a description in english or other language?

I should run on Vista, haven't tested by myself. http://evetrader.ado.me.uk should appear in English unless you are not from Russia. :)

Originally by: Ricdics
When do you plan on releasing this for corporate wallet/orders etc?

Unfortunately there is no such plans for nearest future. But I'll check is there chance to implement this feature fast.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Ricdics

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:00:00 +0000

Checked this out on a non-eve pc with an alt. I must say it looks really nice. The only problem I can see though is that it's only personal wallet. When do you plan on releasing this for corporate wallet/orders etc?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by northwesten

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:59:00 +0000

I will give this a go once i have the all clear! T

Trinity Corporate Services

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Misamo

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:47:00 +0000

It sure looks good and sounds like a useful tool. Will it run an vista?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Vhaluus

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:48:00 +0000

any chance of seeing its source code? I make a policy of not using independent programs like this unless I can compile them myself.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:11:00 +0000

Thanks for support :)

Originally by: Joxxy
Just one sugestion - on first glance mind you - orders that are sold out are shown as expired. Can you show them as sold and those expired as - expired ?

Sure, I'll include it in a next release.

BTW, Eve Trader is checking for its updates every time on start, so you'll be notified about possible updates.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Hel O'Ween

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:18:00 +0000

Nice to see another tool added to the toolbox of the EVE trader. The screenies look nice. Keep up the work.
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EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Ambo

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:15:00 +0000

Looks nice.

*Goes back to worknig feeverishly on EMMA 1.0
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Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Joxxy

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:07:00 +0000

Just one sugestion - on first glance mind you - orders that are sold out are shown as expired.

Can you show them as sold and those expired as - expired ?

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Joxxy

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:00:00 +0000

Im looking at it and I like it !

Considering that sharing API key is just a data miner and my char is less then important to anyone - np there.

Granted I am new to the market world, but tool like this sure does help.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Unbowed Ash

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:49:00 +0000

Edited by: Unbowed Ash on 05/08/2008 10:54:18
Edited by: Unbowed Ash on 05/08/2008 10:50:47
Will give it a go ...

Closely monitoring for loggers - paranoia FTW.

EDIT: I see you need full accsess API key. Since I dont know enough about how full access API key work will restrain myself from using for the time being ...

EDIT 2:
C/P from API key page:

Is this safe? Can someone steal my account?

It is safe to provide your user ID and API key to applications and web sites as long as you are prepared to allow the application or web site to see your character and corporation information.

Sharing your API key, full or limited, does NOT give people access to your account. Sharing your account password would. The API key only allows the recipient to view your character and corporation data but gives them NO control over it. They are NOT able to log in to the game or post on the forums with the API information. The API key is in no way generated from your account password - there is no way to calculate your password using this information.

Eve Trader, yet another tool - by Livia Sanders

Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:00:00 +0000

Hi all, let me introduce my trading tool - Eve Trader.

I was looking for a tool which can show my day-to-day sales in a nice-looking way. After a brief search I realized most of tools are quite user unfriendly. I decided to write my own tool which could show my sold stuff, my orders, reports on most profitable stuff and so on. And here it is:

http://evetrader.ado.me.uk
(site is not 24/7, usually it works from 8 till 21 GMT)

Feature list and screenshots are also available. If you like to have a source just mail me.