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41. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto No, we're not using any rules of order, and that's the problem. But that said, I've never seen a set of rules of order anywhere - legislatures, committees, courtrooms, whatever - that do not give the presi...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 07:13:00
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42. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Jade Constantine Watch your language please Hardin. You were not "gagged" you were told you couldn't arrive at the latter half of a meeting and disl...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 05:41:00
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43. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: NerftheSmurf precedent Arrrg, too quick trusting the firefox spell checker. Woe is me.
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 03:22:00
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44. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Originally by: Inanna Zuni I find this conclusion that people not elected are equal to people who are elected quite amazing. There is no "artificial distinction between the top nine and five alternates" there ...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 03:02:00
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45. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Inanna Zuni so I see no reason to suggest that they need additional time in what is solely a different presentational format. They need to have time for discussion because they may or may not be valuable. And they may o...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 01:25:00
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46. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Jade Constantine It doesn't show anything of the sort. They fill in for meetings when a representative cannot be there. They get appointed to rep status and they act in the meeting with the full and EQUAL powers of a repres...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 00:32:00
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47. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Edited by: Goumindong on 11/06/2008 00:28:27 Originally by: Kelsin I'll just reiterate: The Alternates WERE elected, and when serving in the place of an absent Representative should be treated the same as any other Rep. That they can ...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 00:28:00
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48. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kis Kecheri Edited by: Kis Kecheri on 11/06/2008 00:05:19 Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Kis Kecheri Tell me Goumindong. How exactly does one reproduce those 3 messages? Wouldn't it be odd to m...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.11 00:16:00
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49. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kis Kecheri Tell me Goumindong. How exactly does one reproduce those 3 messages? Wouldn't it be odd to mute, then unmute twice? It sounds far more like a technical error or ignorant fumbling with the system then someone mal...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 23:42:00
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50. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Originally by: Goumindong By your definition, Tusco would have full voting rights at all subsequent meetings, and be entitled to go to Iceland. Nope, that doesn't follow from what I said. You must have mis...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 23:37:00
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51. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Jade Constantine Watch your language please Hardin. You were not "gagged" you were told you couldn't arrive at the latter half of a meeting and dislodge an empowered alternate. That was my read of the role of alternates - b...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 23:32:00
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52. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Well Hardin, I agree that in general it's open to interpretation, but it's the equal powers line that makes it a harder argument to say an Alternate's status can be changed by the comings and goings of a Representativ...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 23:27:00
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53. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kis Kecheri Then after all this testing to see exactly what would actually happen you still think Jade intentionally muted and kicked Inanna on purpose from the start or are you now changing it to "Jade figured out how the s...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 23:14:00
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54. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kis Kecheri Wrong. You made the original posit. Jade kicked Inanna. The logs, not just the system msg, but the other members declaring that she wasn't on the blocked list, show that this was not the case. Thus you have no e...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 22:27:00
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55. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Originally by: Goumindong No, he underlined a statement of mine. I don't know about you, but I do not consider my statements to be Logs of the CSM meeting. Let alone "the" logs that show that the system auto-k...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 21:45:00
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56. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Well, if an Alternate serving in place of a Rep has equal power to a Rep, then the Rep doesn't have authority over that Alternate to displace them. To displace an Alternate the returning Representative is exercising...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 21:41:00
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57. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Originally by: Goumindong Originally by: Kis Kecheri No he did not. The logs show the system auto-kicked him. Jade tried to unmute on the 2nd system notification. Please stop lying Goum. Your reputat...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 21:28:00
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58. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kelsin Originally by: The Cosmopolite Originally by: "CSM Summary Document, page 4, The Election Process The nine highest tallies of this group will be elected as Representatives, while the next five highest...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 21:24:00
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59. CSM Could Use a Neutral Arbitrator - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: Kis Kecheri No he did not. The logs show the system auto-kicked him. Jade tried to unmute on the 2nd system notification. Please stop lying Goum. Your reputation is already terrible enough. I am sorry, i missed that, w...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 21:05:00
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60. CSM Formal Meeting 3. Sunday 8th June (18:00 hours eve time) - in Jita Park Speakers Corner [original thread]
Originally by: The Cosmopolite The fact is that the agenda item was vague and Jade was trying to clarify it Are you serious? "Members arriving to the discussion enter the discussion and voting at the beginning of the next agenda item...
- by Goumindong - at 2008.06.10 01:19:00
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