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7961. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
S Byerley wrote: You separated the variables, indicating that you were not making such an assumption. I separated the variables for the same reason you write it as P(A)P(B|A), and you even got the mentioned that assumption yourself, but then f...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.23 11:31:00
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7962. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
S Byerley wrote: I'm sorry that the notation confused you, but P(B|A) is not the same thing as P(B). ...and I'm sorry that you ever thought it was a P(B). Was it the implicit nature of something that can't happen without the other thing happen...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.23 10:55:00
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7963. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
S Byerley wrote: But I didn't contradict myself? Yes you did. Go back and read it in sequence. First you said I couldn't multiply the two probabilities together because there was a dependency. Then you showed a formula where you multiply two ...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.23 09:30:00
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7964. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
S Byerley wrote: Do you admit that it's wrong then? I'm merely trying to make you answer a very simple question: how would you write the two in order to control for the dependence of p(stolen)? Quote: I accept no responsibility to fix your...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 11:08:00
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7965. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
S Byerley wrote: When I said they were dependent I meant they were dependent, oddly enough. P(B|A) isn't the same as P(B), unless A and B are independent. Is the notation confusing you? No, what's confusing me is that you first claimed that th...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 09:34:00
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7966. For your next ice interdiction -- a plan that will work. - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Spurty wrote: I no understand good Interdicting ice hurts NPC station dwelling high sec mission runners how again? Why said they're supposed to be hurt by it?
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 05:28:00
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7967. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: Cost is not a risk. It is a cost. GǪand all costs are risks. If those costs are certain, the risk is very high, but it is a risk none the less. Quote: Only in the written word, not in application. In application, noth...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 05:23:00
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7968. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: I will however, take the time to applaud all the people who rise to the defense of people, even in fact of them being wrong and trying to circumvent simple fact into fantasy to pretend something is something different than i...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 05:23:00
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7969. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Rekon X wrote: It is your choice to do the ganking. That does not make it a risk. It is a result. By that logic, there are no risks anywhere, ever. You don't risk getting blown up in a gank because blowing up is a result, not a risk. See how t...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 05:23:00
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7970. What do you think the next expansion will be about? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Sorry, I have learned long ago not to get into any discussion with you. I take that as a GǣnoGǥ.
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 04:14:00
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7971. For your next ice interdiction -- a plan that will work. - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Mroe Bree wrote: 10% of 30,000 is 3000. 3000/30 = 100. 100/24 = 4.16 I know I'm a product of the US education system, but I'm pretty sure I got all that right. Ok, fair enough. I somehow read it as auditing everyone every month at 10% per [so...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 04:11:00
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7972. For your next ice interdiction -- a plan that will work. - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Mroe Bree wrote: The tracking of 30,000 character wallets is a very solvable problem. You don't have to audit every wallet every day. If all you do is randomly audit 10% of your members once a month (works out to 100 a day, or 4 an hour) you'll...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 03:51:00
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7973. What do you think the next expansion will be about? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: High sec will always exist to some degree in Eve. But the ability to earn a "decent living" as a high sec player will be eradicated, as the cartels force CCP to move more and more wealth generation potential from high s...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.22 03:42:00
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7974. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: Saying 100% risk is being obtuse. No, it's being sloppy. Risks are not measured in percent; risks are measured in the same unit as the cost. What you meant to say is that Gǣsaying that 100% probability is a risk is being ...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:33:00
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7975. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: How many suicide ganks have you fired at your target in highsec and were able to fly that ship back home? The Jita blockade when CONCORD started shooting the wrong targets probably made that happen more than anyone is will...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:25:00
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7976. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: The 200k versus 2billion is nothing but a smokescreen in regards to the discussion. Your argument was it doesn't matter the number. No, my argument was that it's still a risk even when p=1. Quote: You RISK losing that 2...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:20:00
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7977. What do you think the next expansion will be about? - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Guttripper wrote: If you call "Hey look over here! The red square marks the spot! We even made setting up probes easier! And play our slot machine jackpot phat lewt spew too!" as exploration... Compared to the previous iterations, I certainly ...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:18:00
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7978. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: When your formula produces the same answer regardless of application, it becomes a constant, not a variable. Constant is not risk, but cost. GǪand all costs are risks. Also, risks can most certainly be constants, and what...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:12:00
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7979. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Murk Paradox wrote: I think you're confusing "risk" with "assessment". No. I'm not actually confusing risk with anything. I'm using risk to denote risk, unlike many others who confuse it with Gǣthings I feel are heroic and which I will not gr...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 18:09:00
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7980. The Great Ice Mining Interdiction: Not so Great - in EVE General Discussion [original thread]
Captain Tardbar wrote: And? GǪand it doesn't sound very stupid to say that you risk dying from a suicide. Quote: Risking death doesn't make sense because it was the intended outcome. Intent only really determines what sign you put on the...
- by Tippia - at 2013.08.21 17:52:00
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