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Col Arran
Crimson Raven Knights
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:06:00 -
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Come on you know you have that one skill or skill set that you think "why did I ever train this?"
Personally I wish I had completely stayed away from everything in the industry tree and Mining Barge/exhumer. I thought I'd train up for a Hulk so I could make loads of ISK. I had completely forgotten about incursions for some strange reason and so I did it.
Worst waste of time ever.
Palf of me wishes you could get one free skill allocation once per account but meh. I can see how that would mess up balance, and those training mistakes don't mean nearly as much if you can just undo all the time you spent and put it into something else. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
631
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:13:00 -
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all my level one production and research skills, I thought I'd try something new now I am afraid to open that tab on my skills. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
80
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:19:00 -
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OP thank you for making my life complete with your unwanted skill related whine poast.
I regret I trained Forum Alts Poasts Reading to lvl3, waste of time... I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6255
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:19:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:Come on you know you have that one skill or skill set that you think "why did I ever train this?" Nah.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Riyal
Chode Extravaganza
16
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:20:00 -
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I have electronic attack frigate at lvl 5, never even owned one. People fly titans more according to official statistics. |
Col Arran
Crimson Raven Knights
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:20:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:OP thank you for making my life complete with your unwanted skill related whine poast.
I regret I trained Forum Alts Poasts Reading to lvl3, waste of time...
You think I'd be used to the people on this forum but the complete lack of any form of human decency never ceases to amaze me. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
80
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:22:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:You think I'd be used to the people on this forum but the complete lack of any form of human decency never ceases to amaze me.
Maybe you should train something and then post about it more I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
562
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:22:00 -
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All the skills I've considered "wasted SP" have found use later.
For example I have no ******* clue what made me train Corp Management III during my first month (!!?). Que forward 14 months, and I realised I had the skills needed to found Shiva Furnace when we had to do it quickly.
Same with mining skills, I never used them after the few trial weeks, but in my past alliance I quite enjoyed participating in mining ops- in my Vexor
I consider all my skills to be part of the character Roime, making him what he is. ~ Elite forum PvP ~ |
Xlera
Universal Fleet Operations
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:31:00 -
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marauders skill |
carbomb
Super Team Munkey
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:46:00 -
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it would be cool if you could trade in unwanted skills for unallocated skill points. I'm not saying like for like because that would be stupid and give people too much advantage in certain situations. Maybe something could be done where you get say 50% or 1\3 of the skill points traded in, back as unallocated skill points. That way you could put them to good use and people could not just suddenly train say hac from 0-lvl 5 in an instant but could get themselves on the way.
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Pyrosomniac
VC Academy
13
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:52:00 -
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Every single point (all 602,832 of them) I invested into missiles. |
Florestan Bronstein
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
521
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:54:00 -
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50k SP in PI skills is the biggest of my regrets so far, so I guess I should count myself lucky.
I have asked myself several time "why, oh why, did I ever start training for capitals?" but at the end of the day the SP investment was worth it for me. |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
338
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:55:00 -
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No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy African |
Ai Shun
727
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:56:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:Come on you know you have that one skill or skill set that you think "why did I ever train this?"
No, not really. As I was trying things for the first time I diverged into areas I didn't end up fleshing out; but those skills are still available to me should I want to try that later on. I've got a couple of more focused characters now that I have a bit of a better grasp of things.
EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
Jandice Ymladris
Perkone Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:58:00 -
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For a long time I regretted investing skill points in Mining Foreman & Mining Director. They came from my early days, when I aspired to be a big shot miner. Needless to say, as I knew more about EvE, my focus changed, but those skills kept taunting me, reminding me how clueless I once was.
Then along came the Orca, and those skills made sure I was ready to fly it only mere days after they came out. So in my opinion, no skilltraining is ever wasted, as those useless skills of today, may be tomorrows much needed skill! |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
136
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:25:00 -
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Strange, those skills I have that I don't use anymore don't seem to be stopping me from training the skills I want. Is that normal? Post with your monkey. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
3243
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:31:00 -
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Nope, I'm just waiting for me to be able to ship my alt SP to myself, so it's never any I wish I didn't train that type of feeling...
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carbomb
Super Team Munkey
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:33:00 -
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i got like 3.2mil in industry and barge etc from when i started way back before i found the joys of peee vee pee |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1253
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:34:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:Come on you know you have that one skill or skill set that you think "why did I ever train this?"
Personally I wish I had completely stayed away from everything in the industry tree and Mining Barge/exhumer. I thought I'd train up for a Hulk so I could make loads of ISK. I had completely forgotten about incursions for some strange reason and so I did it.
I've made more money from mining in the last few days than I have ever made from mission running in the same time. Mining's not that bad!
Incursions are great if you have the right ship and can meet the right fleet.
As for skills, every now and then I wish I hadn't trained missiles. Then I fly a CNR or tengu into missions and my missiles never hit the targets because my friends in Nightmares blow stuff up faster. Oh hang on, I was supposed to be looking for the positives? In Inferno, missiles will look really awesome =)
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Zarere
Team Pizza Viro Mors Non Est
23
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:34:00 -
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the 2.5m SP i put into PI.
what a waste of SP and time. |
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
554
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:34:00 -
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On which alt? shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
218
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:34:00 -
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my titan main, can use a retriver and t2 veld crystals. what a waste CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong White-Lotus
568
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Posted - 2012.04.24 09:41:00 -
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Learning skills
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Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:00:00 -
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carbomb wrote:i got like 3.2mil in industry and barge etc from when i started way back before i found the joys of peee vee pee
Same story here. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
606
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:05:00 -
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So not telling! I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
carbomb
Super Team Munkey
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:05:00 -
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carbomb wrote:i got like 3.2mil in industry and barge etc from when i started way back before i found the joys of peee vee pee
also have a few ecm skills because i thought they were cool when i was young and nieve at the outset of my pvp career. Now ofcourse i have learnt that they are the tools of the devil and all trace should be removed forever! lol |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
10
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:07:00 -
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Xlera wrote:marauders skill
Same here marauders lvl 5 and marauders lvl 4 on main... Now while i run mission i use tengu as dps tank + naga dps support... Also i dont like ship unification... Meny ship lose own roles because new shiny toys are better, also same happens to destroyers while CCP introduce noctis, and usage of industrals when CCP give to us orca, a super hauler. |
Kordoc
Death Metal Rooster
15
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:13:00 -
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FoF Missiles level 1. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
10
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:15:00 -
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Kordoc wrote:FoF Missiles level 1.
Haha +1
But they may be awesome while you use drake etc and you are jammed by enemy ;) anyway this is fact most waste sp and useless thing in game. |
Col Arran
Crimson Raven Knights
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:35:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Incursions are great if you have the right ship and can meet the right fleet.
Join The Valhalla Project chat channel. Get like 150m/hr with them.
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Mortaliton
Industrialist and Manufacturers Directorate
12
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:37:00 -
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Learning if we were not refunded the Sp. Since we were. PI, 1,200,000 . I have 5 planets and never use them. I never find the time anymore. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
554
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:39:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:Kordoc wrote:FoF Missiles level 1. Haha +1 But they may be awesome while you use drake etc and you are jammed by enemy ;) anyway this is fact most waste sp and useless thing in game.
Bullshit. I thought so too, until last year when my CEO (Arazu) tackled and damped a Tengu in a belt. I engaged the Tengu in my Purifier, also with a damp fitted, pretty sure I stayed around 42-43 km range. Suddenly I just explode, out of nowhere.
Yes, Tengu pilot hads FoF's, and the combination of me feeling safe being damped + flying a SB with no buffer made him one volley me. I am quite sure he was happy he trained FoF + carried it with him, that day. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Norisha North
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:46:00 -
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"Advanced Spaceship Command" to lvl 4 with 7 mil SP and no industrial intensions. RTFM, sigh! |
TriadSte
3rd Division
74
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:03:00 -
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I have a few things I wish Id not done or similar.
I'm happy I trained PI skills before CCP broke PI bigtime. My 8 char robotics operation went down the pan...So now they're a waste. 10 billion profit from that so its not too sore a loss.
Mining barge 5 along with its industry counterparts...total utter waste of SP for anyone who's not a hardcore miner.
A shed load of science skills I've injected and never trained back when I was a noob and not accustomed to making my skill sheet look sexy.
On the flip side what's the 2 best non Spaceship command skills you have?
Surgical strike 5 Evasive manoeuvring 5
These 2 skills have a profound effect from 4 to 5 and I love them.
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My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:10:00 -
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I have all PI skills at 4. I built a colony. After two days i whished i could nuke it by myself. Never touched it again.
Nuff said. |
Klown Walk
Black Rebel Rifter Club
78
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:10:00 -
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Tengu, can-¦t afford to use it but I still trained for it. Best skills: Acceleration Control 5 Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 |
Violet Voltaj
Shiva Furnace
1
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:24:00 -
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the crap learning skills that kept me from training something useful during my first weeks. Funk me? Funk you! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6258
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:36:00 -
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carbomb wrote:i got like 3.2mil in industry and barge etc from when i started way back before i found the joys of peee vee pee So you're close to an orca for all your tiny-ship-hauling needsGǪ
SP is never wasted GÇö just temporarily left unused.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
479
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:39:00 -
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Pyrosomniac wrote:Every single point (all 602,832 of them) I invested into missiles.
Call me when you get some real missile skills.
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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.04.24 11:49:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:Personally I wish I had completely stayed away from everything in the industry tree and Mining Barge/exhumer. I thought I'd train up for a Hulk so I could make loads of ISK. I had completely forgotten about incursions for some strange reason and so I did it.
Worst waste of time ever.
Well you're in luck now. I heard mining will be the moneymaker after Escalation To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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carbomb
Super Team Munkey
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 12:01:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Pyrosomniac wrote:Every single point (all 602,832 of them) I invested into missiles. Call me when you get some real missile skills.
always get someone trying to flex their mediocre muscles. tbh mate urs are nothing to be shouting about
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Viscount Hood
Gallivanting Travel Company Luna Sanguinem
23
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Posted - 2012.04.24 12:34:00 -
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Advanced Drone Interfacing - i'd take it back if I could |
Just Lilly
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:19:00 -
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Cruiser skill to V, hurts my eyes everytime, never ever flown a cruiser beside a few tech 1's, it was quite dull May 15 2012 |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1185
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:29:00 -
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Off topic posts removed and thread moved from General Discussion. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Whitehound
196
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:36:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Off topic posts removed and thread moved from General Discussion. This thread just lost its cool.
Back on topic ... Ethnic Relations.
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:SP is never wasted GÇö just temporarily left unused.
This. Miner with 10mil SP in guns reporting.
I wouldn't say it's wasted SP, but currently Ethnic Relations is quite useless for my main. |
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
111
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Posted - 2012.04.24 13:58:00 -
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Mining 2 (haha, i never trained this shi t) Remote Sensing (i only injected it, thats bad enough)
All my other skills are fine. :3 |
Skarned
Inroads
13
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Posted - 2012.04.25 01:44:00 -
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12.4m in missles here and I only ever shoot them while flying a curse. Similarly with the 3.8m in Caldari spaceship command.. never used, except that one time when I needed a Falcon to break RR. Still, that's not wasted SP. It could come in handy some day. The more options you have available the better.
What is wasted is the Laboratory Operation trained in my first month playing. That was dumb.
And Industry 1 and Mining 1. I never trained them, they just bother me. |
Clementina
The Scope
64
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:11:00 -
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I have Projected Electronic Counter Measures 3, which is a skill for an ECM weapon that can only fit on a Supercarrier
I have never flown such a warship and I never will. |
stoicfaux
968
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:34:00 -
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PI skills and skills for R&D agents.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
94
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:35:00 -
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TriadSte wrote:
On the flip side what's the 2 best non Spaceship command skills you have?
Surgical strike 5 Evasive manoeuvring 5
These 2 skills have a profound effect from 4 to 5 and I love them.
I will top that with Signature Analysis 5
Everytime I catch a pod I am so very thankful I maxed this skill out . Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
Katy Ling
Crimnson Concept Flame Flaming Nebula
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:07:00 -
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My Postman wrote:I have all PI skills at 4. I built a colony. After two days i whished i could nuke it by myself. Never touched it again.
Nuff said.
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Darkquest
Phoenix Trade Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:38:00 -
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Wow, they actually got rid of DED Connections as a skill jeez, I wish I knew that.. but that was a worthless skill only a 1,500 ISK buff in ratting in belts per level is kinda lame.
Though all the skills I trained for is useful, though the Industry skills is kinda getting wasted since I need to reget certain things.. >.> |
Kazu'ul
OMG PWNAGE
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 02:05:00 -
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yeah... industry, mining, missiles... all complete fail. Why mine when you could (up to the last few days) get more mins/hour blitzing lvl 4s and salvaging every 115 minutes? Why produce tech 1 garbage that is worth less than the minerals, or even T2 garbage that has so many people producing it and .01 isking you for any semblance of 'volume' that it makes it more hassle than profit? Why use missiles at all? Their end game sucks
I'd take a 1/2 sp reimbursement gladly. |
Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:31:00 -
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Skarned wrote:And Industry 1 and Mining 1. I never trained them, they just bother me.
I thought so aswell but yesterday I discovered that some items I need, I can manufacture myself with only industry 1 for a fifth of the market prize. |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:07:00 -
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I wish I could remove the level 2 mining I came with. |
Paintchk
The Vikings Reborn
11
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Posted - 2012.04.27 11:55:00 -
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Laser's were level two I think amd amarr level one... |
Boomhaur
27
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Posted - 2012.04.28 10:13:00 -
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Several, than I started using those skills months or years latter. Like my industrial skills for example. The only skills I don't use are some of the skills I had to train to get into command ships concerning leadership all 527k sp that was req for that. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
193
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:40:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:Cruiser skill to V, hurts my eyes everytime, never ever flown a cruiser beside a few tech 1's, it was quite dull ... This is probably one of the best skills in the game to train to V, if solely for the ability to fly strategic cruisers... Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
44
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Posted - 2012.04.30 19:28:00 -
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Probably corporation management. I don't really regret training it to 1 (removes the need to fly to a skill book seller if it's ever needed), but given that I've never had any desire at all to found or manage a corporation, ever, I'm still kind of pondering why I bothered with 3. |
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drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:31:00 -
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I trained T2 torps for the naga.. got to test them on sisi....... we all know what happened there would love to get those SP back. |
Leo Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.02 04:44:00 -
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I'm 3/4 into Mining Barge to 5... I totally regret the 2-3m sps I put in mining stuff... Hopefully one day I'll fly an Orca and find an use to it so one day my mind will rest in peace. |
Amara Feuta
12Monkeys-Clan Semper Fidelis Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.02 19:11:00 -
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"Mining" its so useless when your char is a missionrunner/pvp |
CirJohn
The Flying Tigers Intrepid Crossing
3
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:34:00 -
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Ethnic Relations - level 2.
Getting this skill past level 1 has literally no benefits. |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
102
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:21:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:Cruiser skill to V, hurts my eyes everytime, never ever flown a cruiser beside a few tech 1's, it was quite dull This is one of the most valuable skills in the game. |
Hulasikaly Wada
Chaotic Makers Legion of xXDEATHXx
4
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:28:00 -
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With the current state on tech3/command ships...
Command ships V
Hula |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:11:00 -
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I have deleted any character where I have trained connections. The phrase "(connections [insert number here] raises your standings from [insert number here]" looks butt-ugly on my character sheet. I hate that skill, because it's useful, but is a horrible eyesore. Signed: George Whitebread |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.05.12 22:13:00 -
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Corbin Blair wrote:I wish I could remove the level 2 mining I came with.
I agree. The ability to outright remove skills without getting compensation should be a feature in this game. Keeping a clean and tidy character sheet is important.
Signed: George Whitebread |
Kaaeliaa
Ministry of War
22
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Posted - 2012.05.16 18:14:00 -
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PI, anything industry not directly necessary for flying an Orca, everything Corp Management, pretty much everything related to Caldari ships and missiles. |
Aggressive Nutmeg
237
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Posted - 2012.05.17 03:36:00 -
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And if they did let us delete skills to keep our skillsheets tidy (LOL!!! ), you know what the next thread on the forums would be?
The skill you wish you had never deleted Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
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knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.17 07:01:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC.
Not true, some skills were so bad CCP even had them removed |
Kelhund
Dracos Dozen Eve Engineering
4
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:13:00 -
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knulla wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC. Not true, some skills were so bad CCP even had them removed
Or they had outlived their usefulness....ahhh Minelaying.....those were the days!
Only skill I regret training is EVE Online Addiction to level 5 :| |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:57:00 -
[73] - Quote
Small Energy Turret level 3. |
Shoogie
Serious Pixels
43
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:03:00 -
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Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:And if they did let us delete skills to keep our skillsheets tidy (LOL!!! ), you know what the next thread on the forums would be? The skill you wish you had never deleted Hah, so true! |
Ares Renton
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
44
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:27:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:
I agree. The ability to outright remove skills without getting compensation should be a feature in this game. Keeping a clean and tidy character sheet is important.
Why? |
Fortis88
Caldari Salvage Corp.
7
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Posted - 2012.05.28 11:58:00 -
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carbomb wrote:it would be cool if you could trade in unwanted skills for unallocated skill points. I'm not saying like for like because that would be stupid and give people too much advantage in certain situations. Maybe something could be done where you get say 50% or 1\3 of the skill points traded in, back as unallocated skill points. That way you could put them to good use and people could not just suddenly train say hac from 0-lvl 5 in an instant but could get themselves on the way.
I like this. Anything would be good in this area. We need some "accident forgiveness" when it comes to skill points. |
Darius Brinn
Iberians Iberians.
31
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Posted - 2012.05.29 07:46:00 -
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Fortis88 wrote:carbomb wrote:it would be cool if you could trade in unwanted skills for unallocated skill points. I'm not saying like for like because that would be stupid and give people too much advantage in certain situations. Maybe something could be done where you get say 50% or 1\3 of the skill points traded in, back as unallocated skill points. That way you could put them to good use and people could not just suddenly train say hac from 0-lvl 5 in an instant but could get themselves on the way.
I like this. Anything would be good in this area. We need some "accident forgiveness" when it comes to skill points.
While I vouch for putting up with the choices we've all made, I must admit this is tempting.
I also tried to manufacture my first Vexor because I thought it would be cheaper to mine the stuff, buy the blueprint and get to it. I was sooooooo clever that I even tried Production efficiency IV. What could possible go wrong?
There are things I could do without: Refining and Production skills (all of them half assed), Mining foreman (born with this, never used it), etc. I'd trade those points even for 1/10th of their value in allocatable SP. |
Bestseller
Kern Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:44:00 -
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4 Million SP in Science:
cause:
1. Datacores can be farmed faster with a 2million SP PVE Toon 2. All my 0.1 wastage factor BPO are worthless and took like Months (thanks to invention wich does not give me a chance bonus for my great BPOs but pohibiting me selling the Tech1 versions)
Skill wich make me sad
Refining Efficiency (768.000 to lvl 5)
cause:
A fresh Toon can refine Minerals at a 30% station with 68.5% My Toon can refine Minerals at the same station with 79.5% (refining 5, refining eff 5, all processings 4)
Could be more :( or less for the Noob |
Bibosikus
Universal Moose Federation Moose Alliance
112
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:36:00 -
[79] - Quote
Black Ops 5. I'm subcap only and this about was all there was left in Ship Command
But I live in hope that CCP will..someday..make them awseome. The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
The VC's
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.29 16:05:00 -
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Amarr Battleship, Large Energy Turret.
Useful for running L4's but that was before I discovered PVP :) Now I don't fly anything larger than a cruiser.
And all missile skills. I'm not maxing those out just to shoot rockets ^^
If I could ever reclaim those sp's I'd put them all into frigs, small guns and gunnery. Trajectory Analysis 5 / 20 days training WTF! |
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Imrik86
SQUIDS.
26
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Posted - 2012.05.30 04:32:00 -
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1. Everything missiles because CCP is too busy making it leave a smoke trail to actually balance it for PvP. 2. Everything faildari because CCP is too busy wipping their asses to balance it so people can PvP on anything other than a Drake or Tengu. 3. Everything hybrid because CCP promised to balance it but they are too chickenshit scared of changing their own game.
Actually, I want my time back for item 3. |
Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises
78
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:14:00 -
[82] - Quote
All of my skills are useful. stop deleting my posts |
Kamden Line
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.06.02 05:46:00 -
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Mining Barge V. I think there should be a warning in the MOTD for the help channel, "If you don't hate yourself, don't join an industrial corp!".
So here I am four years (and a lot of loooooong) breaks later with a Tengu, and missile launcher control basic because of my terrible skill decisions. I thought more along the lines "ooooh Shiny!" and then I trained for it without ever training the additional support skills. |
Ahriene Feveilles
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 14:32:00 -
[84] - Quote
Survey V
Now I fairly recently resubbed after a few years away, and I think I have a faint memory of that being a prerequisite of something in the past (Besides Gaze Survey Probe I); perhaps some scanning related skill. At least I hope it was, so that at least it wasn't completely wasted... |
ArmyOfMe
Omniscient Order
77
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Posted - 2012.06.08 17:05:00 -
[85] - Quote
the 0.26% of my total skills that are in industry ArmyOfMe > i swear my drones have become even more stupid after the patch Wanna Kill > as usually im way ahead of you, my drones have been drooling idiots for ages |
Bree Okanata
Space Junkiez League of Extraplanetary Gentlemen
0
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Posted - 2012.06.10 09:24:00 -
[86] - Quote
I have about 2.2m skill points and i think half of them are in Planetary Interaction. I've spent a LOT of time on that. :\ |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
17
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Posted - 2012.06.11 07:02:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC. Err I have Salvage Drone Operation which is 100% useless as it doesnGÇÖt nothing in game. I do not wish I had never trained it as I ran out of useful skills to train years ago. Now I just train random stuff I never use. |
Red zeon
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
0
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Posted - 2012.06.11 16:04:00 -
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command ship lvl5, because i lost the lvl5 in a podding without clone :/ |
Lukriss
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2012.06.11 17:34:00 -
[89] - Quote
Pottsey wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC. Err I have Salvage Drone Operation which is 100% useless as it doesnGÇÖt nothing in game. I do not wish I had never trained it as I ran out of useful skills to train years ago. Now I just train random stuff I never use.
That skill only got released because of a bug, so that's no argument. |
Dakeen Kurvora
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.06.13 20:57:00 -
[90] - Quote
Pottsey wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:No such thing. Every skill has a use for some odd reason... it might be not now but you will find a need for it later.
I had science lvl 5.. dunno why. Was very happy to discover I needed that for my HIC. Err I have Salvage Drone Operation which is 100% useless as it doesnGÇÖt nothing in game. I do not wish I had never trained it as I ran out of useful skills to train years ago. Now I just train random stuff I never use.
Some where in a recent dev blog was some concept art for salvage drones... it may yet get some use?
Cant say I have any skills I regret. They just expand my options. |
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
139
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Posted - 2012.06.14 00:05:00 -
[91] - Quote
Many of you have found this out the hard way, but it's always best to take tentative steps into a field and play around with it for a while before you devote large amounts of time to training it. I found mining in a frigate enjoyable, so I kept training the mining skills as long as I kept mining. Eventually I found myself in a retriever, and was making a fair income with an easy job. I decided to tone it down for a while and spend my training in other things--any time I felt like mining I had at least the retriever to fall back on. More recently I mapped my attributes toward perception and willpower and that would be perfect for training mining barge 5, but I just don't mine much anymore so I think I'll hold off on that for a while. I've trained all tech 1 subcapital ships, and have enjoyed trying out all the different race's styles. As of yet, I haven't been able to commit to even one race, so I'm training my tech 2 skills across the board. Sure, I can't use very many tech 2 weapons, but tech 1 is alright. I can still get the same fun value, even if my ships are a bit less effective. And there's always a ship design at arms reach that I haven't even flown yet.
Try cross-training a bit guys. I guarantee you it won't hurt as much as wasted skillpoints on a profession you don't even like...and it also ensures you'll always have access to the things that are overpowered in any given expansion. I got a megathron after Crucible came out. Good times. -á"The Mittani: Hated By Badposters i'm strangely comfortable with it" -Mittens |
Razdalan Aus
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 14:20:00 -
[92] - Quote
Pyrosomniac wrote:Every single point (all 602,832 of them) I invested into missiles.
I feel your pain, I should have stopped at the 8mill mark :( |
Yuna Talie-Kuo
Orion Security and Industrial Services
0
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Posted - 2012.06.15 16:25:00 -
[93] - Quote
I honestly think PI isn't a waste at all. It's little a small money printing machine. Sure, some occasional trips here and there, but I find it worth it; CCU Lv4 IC Lv 3 (I feel like getting it to level 4, 3d 8h isn't long) Planetology Lv2 RS Lv3
If you can find decent hotspots, and have 2 advanced plants going, filling at a constant rate, you could earn 100 mil without do much at all. Sure, that isn't a lot, it's more of a bonus.
But the skill I wish I never trained? Negotiation Lv2 Social Lv2 Missiles (I got drones) --> 5k SP Remote Armor Repair Systems Lv2 (The **** was I thinking?) Small Projectile Turret Lv 3 Medium Projectile Turret Lv 1 (I don't use Projectile turrets....) Shield Emission Systems Lv 2 Energy Weapon Rigging Lv 1
I don't do missions, I don't support through defenses, and I sure as hell don't use turrets all that often... So much wasted time QQ
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.06.16 18:23:00 -
[94] - Quote
Amarr Carrier V. I do not own and have never owned a carrier. It's a 14x skill so I set it to train back in the days when ghost training was possible and I decided to unsub .
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Meldorn Vaash
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.06.16 20:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
Defender Missiles... yeah... |
Deity Aiur
Moon In Scorpio RED.OverLord
0
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Posted - 2012.06.17 00:21:00 -
[96] - Quote
While at first i really regretted training into my Hulk with T2 lasers and the crystals, i've found that being able to make my own ships deep in nullsec is really handy. Supply runs tend to be complicated and in frequent and the market has obvious holes in it. I agree with the fact that a lot of skills 'become' useful rather than at first being immediately beneficial.
I do however really regret training into gallente battleships and the large hybrid turrets. I hate battleships and i probably always will. Frigates, cruisers and cloaky stuff is where it's at in my opinion. Best skill i've trained to 5 at the moment is probably motion prediction 5. Those support skills are really some of the nicest in game.
Minmatar cruiser 5 is probably the best skill in the game though. (Rapier, cynabal, loki. yum yum)
Currently training missile support skills for my stealth bomber and Hawk. Hope i don't regret that. |
Canabi
Frontier Explorer's League Rebel Alliance of New Eden
3
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Posted - 2012.06.17 01:04:00 -
[97] - Quote
Fighters Projected Electronic Counter Measures Capital Hybrid Turrets Capital Repair Systems Jump Drive Calibration Jump Drive Operation Jump Fuel Conservation
Basically any capital skill. I don't use capitals. Never will. Wish I could reallocate those skills into something I do use. I know they could be useful if I ever do decide to use capitals, but there's a near 0% chance that will happen. |
grassy 420
Nemesis Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.18 02:20:00 -
[98] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote:50k SP in PI skills is the biggest of my regrets so far, so I guess I should count myself lucky.
I have asked myself several time "why, oh why, did I ever start training for capitals?" but at the end of the day the SP investment was worth it for me.
i would also have to say pi. trinaed all of em to 4. this was to mostly help out my corp in WH space fueling and such. lol .. not in a WH anymore. high sec pi is a joke |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
193
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Posted - 2012.06.18 15:25:00 -
[99] - Quote
grassy 420 wrote:Florestan Bronstein wrote:50k SP in PI skills is the biggest of my regrets so far, so I guess I should count myself lucky.
I have asked myself several time "why, oh why, did I ever start training for capitals?" but at the end of the day the SP investment was worth it for me. i would also have to say pi. trinaed all of em to 4. this was to mostly help out my corp in WH space fueling and such. lol .. not in a WH anymore. high sec pi is a joke lowsec PI was decent until CCP decided to kill it by introducing POCOs.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:23:00 -
[100] - Quote
carbomb wrote:it would be cool if you could trade in unwanted skills for unallocated skill points. I'm not saying like for like because that would be stupid and give people too much advantage in certain situations. Maybe something could be done where you get say 50% or 1\3 of the skill points traded in, back as unallocated skill points. That way you could put them to good use and people could not just suddenly train say hac from 0-lvl 5 in an instant but could get themselves on the way.
+1
Refunding SP in the manner in which you described keeps the option open without letting people exploit it. |
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Bifordus Maximus
MissoCorp
7
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Posted - 2012.06.19 18:32:00 -
[101] - Quote
I trained every PI "skill" to L5 on my main and two other alts... Oh the fail. |
Tyson Blake
Eve TNT
3
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Posted - 2012.06.19 20:25:00 -
[102] - Quote
Dunno... I always skilled for the things I wanted to do.
I was unsure at first, but I wanted to do missions, so I asked whats a good starting point.
Someone from my first corp gave me a fitted drake, and told me what to skill so I can passive shield tank.
And I always asked what skills would be good and I trained up and up. So basically I have superb shield skills and missile skills.
But now I found the love for Nightmare and somehow wished I could spend all those SP from missiles to LV5 Large Beam Laser Specialization.
I'm sure I need those missile skills at some point again, because I want to try almost any ship and any T2 weapon at some point. Will take a lot of time though.
EDIT: Not only for missions, but Pew VS Pew as well :O |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2012.06.20 01:20:00 -
[103] - Quote
Gallente BS... dunno why... |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
24
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Posted - 2012.06.20 03:32:00 -
[104] - Quote
mm i think the "corporation management and the social/trade skills" iam not the guy for that. Just wasting time with "ship spin counter" when iam loggin. |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
144
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Posted - 2012.06.20 18:27:00 -
[105] - Quote
Omber Processing
While I am a refiner by trade and use the rest of my processing skills often... why I even spent a single skillpoint for Omber is beyond me. I don't trade in it, and I certainly would never willingly strap on Omber mining crystals to my poor Retriever and actually waste time mining the stuff. Heck, I escaped Minmatar space and moved to Amarr to get away from it. Granted, Kernite isn't a gold mine either, but Pyrox on the other hand... In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse. |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
132
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Posted - 2012.06.20 22:07:00 -
[106] - Quote
Amarr and Gallente Freighter level 5. |
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