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Max Khaos
Anger Management
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:38:00 -
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Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ?
Naughty naming names !!!!
You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. ------------- Insert Goon Tears Here ------------- |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:43:00 -
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WisdomLikeSilence wrote:why dont you just declare war on the goons?
In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.
So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!) Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else...
vOv
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Barakkus
1530
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:43:00 -
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Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team.
You'd be surprised, some of the corps out there are devs and are horrible at this game lol. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
771
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:44:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
It's a pretty awesome model for studying capitalism.
We took over half of space just to cartel one type of good.
Suck it, reality.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
771
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:45:00 -
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Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team.
Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
702
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:47:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:WisdomLikeSilence wrote:why dont you just declare war on the goons?
In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.
So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!) Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else... vOv
To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.
(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
702
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:48:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.
I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots). |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
237
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
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Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members ..
Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
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Xython wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets. I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots). If you see ice miner bots then after you gank them, make sure to report it to CCP. Botting is a serious problem in those ice fields. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
this has all happened before and it shall happen again
Before Goons it was BoB and wit BoB we had actual devs in there actually being proven as cheating in the game. Goons arent even THAT bad theyre really just apparently either pushing the game in the direction CCP wants it to go or theyve painted themselves into a corner and are unable to do anything about it.
Either way really its CCP's fault.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:51:00 -
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Xython wrote:To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.
(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?) I live in WH's full time - don't feel threatened, haven't depended on Concord in 3 years.... Just thought it would be funny if *everyone* in new eden declared war on GSF - won't happen, and I doubt anyone could co-ordinate well enough to interfere...
but it would be funny!
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:52:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
237
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:55:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going.
Because we all know how effective eve-o can be when they literally have nothing to go on. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:13:00 -
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The Bees are great for creating content in the game.
What they are NOT great for is dispelling that image of everyone playing EVE being raving psychopath/sociopaths. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
773
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:43:00 -
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CCP isn't allowing anything, you're all simply too weak to do anything about it.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jinyo Utama
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:51:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... It's your fault if goons have too much power, and mine, and the next poster's. It's a sandbox. The players are responsible for what goes on in it. It you don't like goons having power feel free to make your own alliance and take it away from them. |
Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
47
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:17:00 -
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lol butthurt dude
srs post: The whole point of CCP's sandbox is let people interact. You seek your own little side sandbox. I'm not a fan of having my castle messed with either, but it's a side effect of what CCP has here
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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:26:00 -
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Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know.
seriously, Arkturus??/
do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models.
caviar anyone?????? |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
70
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:30:00 -
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Jinyo Utama wrote:[quote=evereplicant] The players are responsible for what goes on in it. It you don't like goons having power feel free to make your own alliance and take it away from them.
heh, you say that like it's an easy thing. the easy thing is to join goons and "win" eve they way i see it if you get stogie stomped by the goons Leonidas would be proud of you. not every alliance has a godlike figurehead yaknow.
dear OP, goons are not king of the castle; they just sing louder than us dirty rascals. |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
55
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:47:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
CCP loves the Goons, they are a perfect example of what CCP wants their game to be....
(Either that or they beelieve that the only way to survive is to kiss Mittens stinger so he will buy more accounts with moon-goo, and they will continue showing an account increase)
Not sure if either idea would work as intended though....
My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale..... |
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
240
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:50:00 -
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They are controlling EVE because they are the only group that is willing to work towards controlling EVE. If you have a problem with them then create your own group and do battle.
"For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing." -Simon Wiesenthal
In EVE you have the ability to shape the universe. CCP has given you the tools, stop expecting them to do the work.
I also like how people easily forget that GOONs has fallen once before and not by a massive fleet or bad leadership, but by one person. You probably won't be able to do the same thing that caused them to fall once, but with all of the Anti-GOON fever around lately if you stopped sitting in your miner you could easily get many people to rise up and join your cause.
Anyone who wants to see the GOONs go should seize the opportunity now. All of this internet drama is going to die down eventually and even the most prominent GOON haters aren't going to bother doing anything about it.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
249
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:52:00 -
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In EVE , YOU are the content. YOU are the storyline. |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:07:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Because you and your ilk are shitting up the forums instead of shooting back. Duh.
During CSM elections, you guys loved to spout how 10058 voices are nothing against the larger populace of EVE. Yet you seem to be unable to actually DO anything and let your game be controlled by this group that you portrayed as a minority. What does that say about you?
You have nobody to blame but yourself. I hope the Death Squad already has your main on its list :)
Sheeesh, stupid people always hating on the only guys who are actually playing this game. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:19:00 -
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evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal. |
WhyTry1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:21:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Because you and your ilk are shitting up the forums instead of shooting back. Duh. During CSM elections, you guys loved to spout how 10058 voices are nothing against the larger populace of EVE. Yet you seem to be unable to actually DO anything and let your game be controlled by this group that you portrayed as a minority. What does that say about you? You have nobody to blame but yourself. I hope the Death Squad already has your main on its list :) Sheeesh, stupid people always hating on the only guys who are actually playing this game.
ahaha thats funny coming from a GOON PET... Now now run along... pathetic..but i have to say the amount of goon alts trolling this thread is fantastic, damn they even control the forums...I guess eve should now be called eveswarm...
+1 op btw |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:25:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote: ahaha thats funny coming from a GOON PET...
Want me to repeat that with my NPC alt for added relevance? Although i fear that mine is not as appropriatly named as yours. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:04:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Redundant threads will be deleted. As a courtesy to others before beginning a new thread, please look to see if an active thread on that topic has already been established. If so, place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forum needlessly and many good ideas may be lost. Keep discussions about one topic to one thread only. Shut Up !!! |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:05:00 -
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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know. seriously, Arkturus??/ do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone??????
and the girl that played Jackie on that 70s show https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:12:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:They are controlling EVE because they are the only group that is willing to work towards controlling EVE. If you have a problem with them then create your own group and do battle.
"For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing." -Simon Wiesenthal
In EVE you have the ability to shape the universe. CCP has given you the tools, stop expecting them to do the work.
I also like how people easily forget that GOONs has fallen once before and not by a massive fleet or bad leadership, but by one person. You probably won't be able to do the same thing that caused them to fall once, but with all of the Anti-GOON fever around lately if you stopped sitting in your miner you could easily get many people to rise up and join your cause.
Anyone who wants to see the GOONs go should seize the opportunity now. All of this internet drama is going to die down eventually and even the most prominent GOON haters aren't going to bother doing anything about it.
Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum
Singulis Pacifica wrote:evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal.
Mittani alt detected
Be more funny if it was a CCP alt tho https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:18:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum We're not doing a good job of it then, letting NC. and Raiden. sit around in Tribute/Vale.
It's almost as if we want to have reds next door.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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