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evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:03:00 -
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So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... |
Hallen Ambramotte
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:05:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Bumping so it is seen. He says "You've already had breakfast." I ask "But what about second breakfast?" |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:05:00 -
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Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...
Needs more tears. |
geit reyl
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:05:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
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Warzon3
Solar Storm Intrepid Crossing
24
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:07:00 -
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any large alliance can do stuff goons do like the gallente ice interdiction. The difference between goons and other alliances is that goons say: Heck yeah smashing idea lets do it!!! While others will say: Yeah sounds great have fun I'm staying in 0.0 ratting. |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:08:00 -
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you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |
WolfeReign
T.O.R. STR8NGE BREW
11
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:08:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...
working as intended |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:08:00 -
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So?
EVE is 8.6 LY^2 of playability... somewhere in there is a special place for you too. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:09:00 -
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One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?
Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
718
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:10:00 -
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Well, we're planning to take Cobalt Edge next since they have the best trusec in drone space and the other ones are complete crap. Other alliances just suck and think they're all cool when they rent out space. |
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Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
241
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:10:00 -
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Nerf Goons.
Buff Hulks. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
579
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:11:00 -
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Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?
It's all about the Tea, I think.......... There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
747
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:12:00 -
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evereplicant wrote: Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox's ability to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.
Here's your sign... |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
697
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:15:00 -
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I like how the same people who pulled the fainting couch bullshit and blackmailed CCP into screwing The Mittani over are now trying the same trick to force CCP to...
What, exactly? Make Goonswarm move out of Deklein? Start giving away Technetium? Stop doing any PVP at all?
I'm not quite certain what the endgame plot of all these sockpuppet threads are aiming for. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
96
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:16:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit
There you go. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:16:00 -
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The big bad Mitten widdled in my sandbox. :cripes: Needs more tears. |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
129
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:20:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:evereplicant wrote: Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.
^This. One universe. One sandbox. Every action has some of impact on everyone else. Watch The Butterfly Effect again, then try to tell us it's not working as intended.
Anyone could do what the Goons do. Others have done it before, just not as well. Others will do it again.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
580
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:21:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:evereplicant wrote: Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.
Brilliant
My impression of the whole thing is CCP wants to see how this plays out.
It's a kind of 'fact-finding' endeavor to see if they do indeed need to step in at some point in the future. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
208
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:21:00 -
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Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Arkturus McFadden
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:22:00 -
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If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know. |
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Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:22:00 -
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I Once had sex with a member of Goonswarm. Now she flys for the NC. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Arkturus McFadden
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:23:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:War Kitten wrote:evereplicant wrote: Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand. Brilliant My impression of the whole thing is CCP wants to see how this plays out. It's a kind of 'fact-finding' endeavor to see if they do indeed need to step in at some point in the future.
I think your probably right about that. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
699
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:25:00 -
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Redundant threads will be deleted. As a courtesy to others before beginning a new thread, please look to see if an active thread on that topic has already been established. If so, place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forum needlessly and many good ideas may be lost. Keep discussions about one topic to one thread only.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |
Just Alter
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
33
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:28:00 -
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evereplicant wrote: eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox..
Wat?
Are you daft?
As long as someone is playing by the rules he can do whatever he wants, that is what sandbox mean.
Just because you think a sandbox should be something else it doesnt mean others are doing anything wrong. |
5n4keyes
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
13
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:29:00 -
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Goon's do not control me... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
580
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:29:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread.
We are hardly butthurt.
WE DON'T CARE !!!!!!
"Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies.
CareBears don't care so much they don't come to your space, and they don't harass you, and indeed they don't even fight back. That is the ultimate don't care and there isn't anything you can do, short of dying of starvation, next to a pack of Cheetos, that will demostrate a don't care level beyond that of the CareBear." - Mass Attack
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
580
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:31:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Redundant toons will be deleted.
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:31:00 -
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Never Stop Posting.... To say you don't care about Goons. Needs more tears. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:32:00 -
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We don't control your game.
We control our game.
Don't play our game and you won't have any difficulties. |
The Groundskeeper
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:32:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:evereplicant wrote: Eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
At the very core of sandboxyness is the ability of one sandbox to interact with and affect another's sandbox. Without such inter-sandboxian-action, we would just have individual piles of sand.
And that, ladies and gentlemen... is checkbox. |
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VagabondAlt
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:34:00 -
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maybe you should all stop whining, build an alliance in syndicate, invade scalding pass, and work your way up from there |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
710
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:34:00 -
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Goons don't control EVE... dude way to much drugs |
Jonah Gravenstein
161
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:35:00 -
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It's a sandbox, someone always takes a dump in the sandbox, usually it's me when I'm falling down drunk but Goons collectively crap more than a single person can ever hope to.
WTS Sieves to remove turds from your sandbox War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:38:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread. We are hardly butthurt. WE DON'T CARE !!!!!!"Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. CareBears don't care so much they don't come to your space, and they don't harass you, and indeed they don't even fight back. That is the ultimate don't care and there isn't anything you can do, short of dying of starvation, next to a pack of Cheetos, that will demostrate a don't care level beyond that of the CareBear." - Mass Attack
that's a lot of words and sperg to remind us that you do not care eh |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1741
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:39:00 -
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They must have an excellent public relations campaign happening because the only place I see them is here in the forums.
They don't control or dictate how I play this game nor do I even think about them when I'm in-game. I play Eve Online however I see fit.
When the day comes where I can no longer engage in my preferred in-game activity, that's the day I go postal.
Until then, I'm Free to continue playing Eve Online my way.
EDIT: But I will give the op +1 "like" due the the forums constantly being gang banged by them. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:39:00 -
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Just because your not enjoying your "sandy-box" you gotta get all pissy Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
321
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:39:00 -
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A BLOO BLOO MY MINING BOTS CAN'T RUN UNOBSTRUCTED A BLOO BLOO |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:41:00 -
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Goonswarm ate my Hamsters Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:42:00 -
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Just remember somewhere out there, theres a goon with YOUR name on it. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Jonah Gravenstein
161
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:42:00 -
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Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Goonswarm ate my Hamsters
Nope, Goonswarm stole your hamsters and sold them to CCP, they always need new hamsters. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
373
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:43:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Posting in an epic, butthurt because of Goons, thread. We are hardly butthurt. WE DON'T CARE !!!!!!"Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies. CareBears don't care so much they don't come to your space, and they don't harass you, and indeed they don't even fight back. That is the ultimate don't care and there isn't anything you can do, short of dying of starvation, next to a pack of Cheetos, that will demostrate a don't care level beyond that of the CareBear." - Mass Attack
You really are trying too hard. Quite embarrassing really. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
314
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:43:00 -
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Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
Case in point: Band of Brothers (BoB)
Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?
Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.
Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy.
Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
That is a fact of life in New Eden that even the Goons themselves acknowledge. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Cavel Avada
Jericho Faction Rising Phoenix Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:44:00 -
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If anyone came along who was charismatic enough to get together enough corps and alliances and coalitions to take the Goons out, then that would happen and someone else would take their place. That's the very definition of a sandbox. The fact that it hasn't happened yet just means that no one has come along who could pull that off.
I will say that, if you don't like Goons, go find somewhere else to live your EVE life. They're not EVERYWHERE. |
Wolf Kruol
Capsuleer Legions Of New Eden GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
8
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:44:00 -
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Because thats what freespace is about.. Groups with similar interest taking control of space that they want to benefit from. They want to prevent others from taking it from them too. So ya.. rest is obvious... Sandbox right.. |
stoicfaux
962
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:44:00 -
[45] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. I'm pretty sure that CCP is aware that Mittans represented less than 3% of Eve accounts. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28529
CCP will let the Goons kick up sand as long as it doesn't negatively impact CCP's bottom line. (Where bottom line == player fun factor.)
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
56
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:45:00 -
[46] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:I Once had sex
Then why the hell are you still playing this game? You don't belong here |
Forum Harlot
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:45:00 -
[47] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
1.7/10.
If you dislike your goon overlords, band together and fight against them. Don't be daft. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
581
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:46:00 -
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Aryndel Vyst wrote:A BLOO BLOO MY MINING BOTS CAN'T RUN UNOBSTRUCTED A BLOO BLOO
Reach in my front pocket for some Kleenex...............go ahead. Do not be afraid. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
8
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:46:00 -
[49] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
Why is he allowed to control MY GAME when I pay and he is banned?
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Ohh, for info. Once upon a time, GOONS invaded Delve and made FREEPORTS. They took stations and made it so EVERYONE could dock.
No other entity in EVE have done something like that for the average EVE players... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
581
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:47:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:
You really are trying too hard. Quite embarrassing really.
I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry you are embarrassed. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
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Josef Djugashvilis
85
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:The big bad Mitten widdled in my sandbox. :cripes:
More likely to be drunken projectile vomit in your sandbox You want fries with that? |
Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:49:00 -
[52] - Quote
If they are such a threat it seems like the other alliances would band in some sort of brotherhood and work together to eliminate them. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
581
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:49:00 -
[53] - Quote
qDoctor Strangelove wrote:
Why is he allowed to control MY GAME when I pay and he is banned?
He loves to claim that while his Lackeys do the s**twork. Sits there like bin Laden in his compound with that TV and a jar of Lube, while the real work goes on elsewhere. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
Hallen Ambramotte wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Bumping so it is seen.
Gosh I thought that you knew nothing about the game: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99941&find=unread
So why are you posting in this thread? |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
257
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP didn't make jita, the players did. Now you want CCP to care about what people 9 years ago started and you just inherited freely as a convenience? Herp a durp durr. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:51:00 -
[56] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:I Once had sex Then why the hell are you still playing this game? You don't belong here
lol you bugger , twisting my words... Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:52:00 -
[57] - Quote
Meh. Eventually their monopoly will eff the economy up so much that most people will stop playing and move onto something else. At that point CCP will see that their game is doomed and the goons will have completed their mission; to ruin a game and everyone's good time, bankrupt a company, and shut down Eve. It's their goal and it has been all along.
But, CCP won't act on it, they never will.
Welp. |
Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
122
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:52:00 -
[58] - Quote
We the players of EvE create the politics of EvE.
The political arena we have created is based firmly on the "might = right" model so until a environmental or exterior force or a group with more will, power and cohesion appears that is a true challenge to the economic and military power of the CFC nothing is going to change. |
Whitehound
197
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:53:00 -
[59] - Quote
One can win EVE now?
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Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:54:00 -
[60] - Quote
Confirming Goonswarm have nothing too do with the eve economy. and everything too do with playing internet spaceships and having fun in the least expensive way possible. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
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Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:55:00 -
[61] - Quote
Whitehound wrote:One can win EVE now?
Do not ask how, my white bearded friend; Instead ask why...
(ok i just re-read that he totally said now not how - just play along with it) Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
103
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:57:00 -
[62] - Quote
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go.
something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this
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Dragon Outlaw
The Scope Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:59:00 -
[63] - Quote
Because New Eden is now a Risk Board game. |
Gericho Sane
The Craniac The Aurora Shadow
6
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:59:00 -
[64] - Quote
They got to where they are by playing the game, if you don't like that, then do something about it. Complaining doesn't get results. |
RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 15:59:00 -
[65] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this hey let's have more goon threads. |
Forum Harlot
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:00:00 -
[66] - Quote
Whitehound wrote:One can win EVE now?
Yes, one can. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
581
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:00:00 -
[67] - Quote
Dragon Outlaw wrote:Because 0.0 is now a Risk Board game.
a bit more accurate There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:00:00 -
[68] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this
AND what is stopping anyone , any of YOU. Anyone else from doing the exact same thing; even counteracting this 'evil' ? Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:00:00 -
[69] - Quote
i love it every time that some hisec miner talks about HITTING THE GOONS WHERE IT HURTS
then they realize that it doesn't involve making isk eh |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:01:00 -
[70] - Quote
It would be interesting if a large alliance interdicting game play in non-sov space could be made red to the the rest of the player base. i.e. anyone can shoot them without concorde involvement. of course it would only be fair that as they are red to everybody, everybody is red to them. No concorde if they shoot anyone either. Basically they are putting themselves in opposition to the rest of the player base though and I think all things being even, they are biting off more than they can chew doing that, but only if we can shoot them. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:02:00 -
[71] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this
I really like how people like you claim it's such a simple and easy effort to bring together an alliance of individuals to challenge the largest organization in Eve. Claiming this is a dumb ass post and that the concept is simple and anyone can do it shows absolutely no intelligence on your part.
That's like saying if you don't like oil prices and the monopoly oil companies have created, that I should go start my own oil company and run them down. There's this thing called resources. When one group controls all the resources you need to threaten them, there's nothing you can really do that would have a lasting impact. By the time anyone could amass a force large enough to take them down, they'd be 3x stronger than they were.
A REAL answer would be for all the nul alliances to realize that the goons are homogenizing 0.0 and that eventually, they'll run the whole thing and it's gg for eve. Unless they all come together and ruthless tear into the CFC in a completely and absolutely relentless attack that does not stop across all their territory, they can't be taken down. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
97
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:02:00 -
[72] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this
Coming from the dumb ass who created this topic that doesnt really mean much, i mean your basicly saying this just not as obviously.
"Look im to lazy to actually do anything about it, but i think that goons have far to much influence in the game, and no i dont care that they put a load of effort into becoming so powerful or how many years it took them or how much ISK they spent to make it so or the campaigns they run, i am not happy with it. CCP do something about it for me because im far to lazy and would not have even half the intellect to be able to successfully direct and control campaigns similiar to the ones goons have done over the years
*Stamps feet in a tantrum* DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT CCP I DONT WANT TO CAUSE IM A LAZY ******* GIT"
true story
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:04:00 -
[73] - Quote
If you strike us down, we shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Well, that or we'll just go "Heh" and keep right on controlling your game. Needs more tears. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:04:00 -
[74] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:i love it every time that some hisec miner talks about HITTING THE GOONS WHERE IT HURTS
then they realize that it doesn't involve making isk
Where does it hurt then, we should ask ourselves?
In the Butt? - I doubt it most goons are Homosexual and enjoy things in the butt.
In the Face? - Maybe a few of them would avoid facial contact because theyre too handsome for it in the face, but most are too spotty.
In the wallet? -lolcmon were talking about people who fly rifters and thrashers for fun....
In the Pride? - Pride ? how can someone be proud of thier acheivements in a computer game ?
I really dont know DO YOU ? Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace n Quiet
41
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:06:00 -
[75] - Quote
mo0, BoB, Goons. They come and go at the whims of other players. Working as intended. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:11:00 -
[76] - Quote
And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:13:00 -
[77] - Quote
Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy.
Fact is i think the only people who care THAT much are the ones whining about thier Sandy-box (sandy vagina) Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:15:00 -
[78] - Quote
Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends!
No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game.
It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job. Don't violence me bro! |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
167
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:16:00 -
[79] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job.
I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who's good at it, from people who are bad at it, is 'WELL I HAVE A REAL LIFE.'
Butthurt. Butthurt never changes. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:17:00 -
[80] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job.
Now that, I believe. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:17:00 -
[81] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. Fact is i think the only people who care THAT much are the ones whining about thier Sandy-box (sandy vagina)
I think people care that have the military capabilities, they're just cowards in regards to political fall out and taking a risk.
But yes, high sec people, the majority of subscribers, the one's most pissed about goons and their economic warfare and harassment against them, are the vocal group about this. If a few thousand ships went up against a goon fleet, it wouldn't matter if they were mission fit or not. 10,000 pieces of ammo flying at a ship is 10,000 pieces of ammo regardless of whether you pvp or pve. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:17:00 -
[82] - Quote
Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy.
1. Read "The Prince" by Niccol+¦ Machiavelli 2. Destroy Goons 3. ???? 4. Kill Yourself Needs more tears. |
Jonah Gravenstein
162
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 -
[83] - Quote
Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job.
I thought he'd retired? probably with a shed load of ill-gotten gains because he was a lawyer, and they're generally dishonest, scheming, money grubbers
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
I think if you asked any goon should they be removed from eve? They would reply, "yes".
Do not! Deficate on my garden banquet said mr Mittens.....
Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:20:00 -
[85] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job. I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who's good at it, from people who are bad at it, is 'WELL I HAVE A REAL LIFE.' Butthurt. Butthurt never changes.
I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who can't spend all day on a game from people who do and are "good at it" is that their butthurt and using real life as an excuse.
Reality ineptitude. Reality ineptitude never changes. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:21:00 -
[86] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Meh. Eventually their monopoly will eff the economy up so much that most people will stop playing and move onto something else. At that point CCP will see that their game is doomed and the goons will have completed their mission; to ruin a game and everyone's good time, bankrupt a company, and shut down Eve. It's their goal and it has been all along.
But, CCP won't act on it, they never will.
Welp.
Wut?
Monopoly over what? ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job. I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who's good at it, from people who are bad at it, is 'WELL I HAVE A REAL LIFE.' Butthurt. Butthurt never changes. I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who can't spend all day on a game from people who do and are "good at it" is that their butthurt and using real life as an excuse. Reality ineptitude. Reality ineptitude never changes.
Try harder. I don't think you're proving my point ENOUGH. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:23:00 -
[88] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Pillowtalk wrote:Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends! No, you have to have someone with no life who wants to make their entire life about a video game. It isn't a coincidence that the leader of the biggest alliance in Eve doesn't have a job. I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who's good at it, from people who are bad at it, is 'WELL I HAVE A REAL LIFE.' Butthurt. Butthurt never changes. I love that. No matter what game you play, the default response to anyone who can't spend all day on a game from people who do and are "good at it" is that their butthurt and using real life as an excuse. Reality ineptitude. Reality ineptitude never changes. Try harder. I don't think you're proving my point ENOUGH.
You had a point? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1645
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:24:00 -
[89] - Quote
This has all happened before.
It will all happen again. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:25:00 -
[90] - Quote
Zyress wrote:It would be interesting if a large alliance interdicting game play in non-sov space could be made red to the the rest of the player base. i.e. anyone can shoot them without concorde involvement. of course it would only be fair that as they are red to everybody, everybody is red to them. No concorde if they shoot anyone either. Basically they are putting themselves in opposition to the rest of the player base though and I think all things being even, they are biting off more than they can chew doing that, but only if we can shoot them.
Now here comes an extraordinary idea..... brace yourself.... here it comes....
Declare war?
Usually that has the effect of setting the oposite side red.
Just saying. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
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Bane Necran
353
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:27:00 -
[91] - Quote
This is why goons are violently opposed to anything that could make the game popular: They like being a big fish in a small pond.
They exist in games like WoW, but no one cares about them. Here they're the center of attention. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Look at me, I'm so very pretty and special. I'm a pretty, pretty space girl. Look at meeeeeeeeee..... Needs more tears. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:29:00 -
[93] - Quote
Anslo wrote:evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this I really like how people like you claim it's such a simple and easy effort to bring together an alliance of individuals to challenge the largest organization in Eve. Claiming this is a dumb ass post and that the concept is simple and anyone can do it shows absolutely no intelligence on your part. That's like saying if you don't like oil prices and the monopoly oil companies have created, that I should go start my own oil company and run them down. There's this thing called resources. When one group controls all the resources you need to threaten them, there's nothing you can really do that would have a lasting impact. By the time anyone could amass a force large enough to take them down, they'd be 3x stronger than they were. A REAL answer would be for all the nul alliances to realize that the goons are homogenizing 0.0 and that eventually, they'll run the whole thing and it's gg for eve. Unless they all come together and ruthless tear into the CFC in a completely and absolutely relentless attack that does not stop across all their territory, they can't be taken down.
You are wrong sir. What you said is exactly what he said.
A coallition is nothing more than an aliance of alliances.
Think harder next time.
~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:29:00 -
[94] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. 1. Read "The Prince" by Niccol+¦ Machiavelli 2. Destroy Goons 3. ???? 4. Kill Yourself
I can take only a quote from the great Babylon 5 too sum up power.
Mr Morden: What do YOU want ?
Lando Molari: I want my people to reclaim thier rightfull place in the galaxy; i want too see the Centarui stretch fourth thier hand again and command the stars.I want a rebirth of Glory, a renacance of power. I want too stop running thru my life like a man late for an appointment. Affraid too look back or look forward. I want us all too be WHAT WE USED TOO BE! . I WANT....*breathes* i want it all back the way that it was....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUYpUMaEI88 Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:31:00 -
[95] - Quote
Bane Necran wrote:This is why goons are violently opposed to anything that could make the game popular: They like being a big fish in a small pond.
They exist in games like WoW, but no one cares about them. Here they're the center of attention.
"Things that would make the game popular" is usually synonymous with "dilutory and pedantic simplification." "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Shegunna Blow
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:31:00 -
[96] - Quote
Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow |
Shukuzen Kiraa
47-Ronin Outer Ring Excavations Syndicate
121
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:32:00 -
[97] - Quote
Everyone should just ignore them until they realize they arent getting the attention they want..cry, and quit eve. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 16:32:00 -
[98] - Quote
Welsige wrote:Anslo wrote:evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this I really like how people like you claim it's such a simple and easy effort to bring together an alliance of individuals to challenge the largest organization in Eve. Claiming this is a dumb ass post and that the concept is simple and anyone can do it shows absolutely no intelligence on your part. That's like saying if you don't like oil prices and the monopoly oil companies have created, that I should go start my own oil company and run them down. There's this thing called resources. When one group controls all the resources you need to threaten them, there's nothing you can really do that would have a lasting impact. By the time anyone could amass a force large enough to take them down, they'd be 3x stronger than they were. A REAL answer would be for all the nul alliances to realize that the goons are homogenizing 0.0 and that eventually, they'll run the whole thing and it's gg for eve. Unless they all come together and ruthless tear into the CFC in a completely and absolutely relentless attack that does not stop across all their territory, they can't be taken down. You are wrong sir. What you said is exactly what he said. A coallition is nothing more than an aliance of alliances. Think harder next time.
There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1645
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:33:00 -
[99] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. 1. Read "The Prince" by Niccol+¦ Machiavelli 2. Destroy Goons 3. ???? 4. Kill Yourself I can take only a quote from the great Babylon 5 too sum up power. Mr Morden: What do YOU want ? Lando Molari: I want my people to reclaim thier rightfull place in the galaxy; i want too see the Centarui stretch fourth thier hand again and command the stars.I want a rebirth of Glory, a renacance of power. I want too stop running thru my life like a man late for an appointment. Affraid too look back or look forward. I want us all too be WHAT WE USED TOO BE! . I WANT....*breathes* i want it all back the way that it was.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUYpUMaEI88
Of course, he also proclaiimed himself to be "The heir to the throne of the kingdom of fools", but yeah.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
8
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:34:00 -
[100] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:This has all happened before.
It will all happen again.
Your avatar is the spitting image of Odo from DS9 Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:35:00 -
[101] - Quote
Shegunna Blow wrote:Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow
Standard combat aside, they do grief economically. By holding all the tech moons, they could do whatever they want in terms of economic warfare. If goons one day decide "eff CCP," they could destroy the entire market, across every Empire. It's not just a matter of physically avoiding them. They can attack anyone physically or through the wallet via inflation. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:35:00 -
[102] - Quote
Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone.
"A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:37:00 -
[103] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Shegunna Blow wrote:Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow Standard combat aside, they do grief economically. By holding all the tech moons, they could do whatever they want in terms of economic warfare. If goons one day decide "eff CCP," they could destroy the entire market, across every Empire. It's not just a matter of physically avoiding them. They can attack anyone physically or through the wallet via inflation.
I'm not sure what game you think you're playing. They control those moons through perfectly legal and valid mechanics. You will just hav to accept that New Eden is a scary place full of bad people. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:38:00 -
[104] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone.
Yes, this is true. But consider the following;
If I decide to start an alliance right now and spend three years building it up to the point that it could take on the goons right now, in 2012, do you really think that the goons influence and power would stay stagnant and not grow over the same three years?
By 2015, I could have my alliance attack the goons, but they would be 3 years stronger with god knows what and still decimate us. This goes back to some arguments regarding the difference in alliances established long ago versus new start ups and temporal inequality, but that's another story.
Bottom line, there is a difference, and no matter how much a new alliance builds up, the goons would always have that very VERY large head start. To think otherwise is simply ignorant, Mr. Goon-Alt. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1645
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:41:00 -
[105] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:This has all happened before.
It will all happen again. Your avatar is the spitting image of Odo from DS9
Well, since he was a shape shifter that doesn't mean a whole lot. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:41:00 -
[106] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote:Shegunna Blow wrote:Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow Standard combat aside, they do grief economically. By holding all the tech moons, they could do whatever they want in terms of economic warfare. If goons one day decide "eff CCP," they could destroy the entire market, across every Empire. It's not just a matter of physically avoiding them. They can attack anyone physically or through the wallet via inflation. I'm not sure what game you think you're playing. They control those moons through perfectly legal and valid mechanics. You will just hav to accept that New Eden is a scary place full of bad people.
Never once did I say it wasn't valid. I am simply pointing out that the solution is not as simple as "move away from goons and target areas." There was a hole in your logic, and I provided a plug for it. Also, I wouldn't say Eve is full of "bad" people so much as it is full of nonsensical people. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:42:00 -
[107] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone. Yes, this is true. But consider the following; If I decide to start an alliance right now and spend three years building it up to the point that it could take on the goons right now, in 2012, do you really think that the goons influence and power would stay stagnant and not grow over the same three years? By 2015, I could have my alliance attack the goons, but they would be 3 years stronger with god knows what and still decimate us. This goes back to some arguments regarding the difference in alliances established long ago versus new start ups and temporal inequality, but that's another story. Bottom line, there is a difference, and no matter how much a new alliance builds up, the goons would always have that very VERY large head start. To think otherwise is simply ignorant, Mr. Goon-Alt.
Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who disagrees with you is a goon alt. This is my main.
If anything, Goon influence would decline by that time. Remember Mo0, or BoB, or the Privateers? They were once the big dogs, too. You don't hear much about them any more. Politics and power in Eve is based entirely on THE PLAYERS and their actions. That is why Eve is a niche game; it's also why Eve is the only MMO with any real heart to it. The players decide what happens in this game. If you cannot deal with being on the losing side, you're in the wrong universe. Every time you undock your ship, you risk its destruction. Every time you fire a gun, you take countless lives. Every decision you make effects the rest of the game. If you can't accept decisions from others having just as much weight as your own, I don't know what to tell you. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
67
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:43:00 -
[108] - Quote
What would Star Trek Deep Space 9 have been without the Borg ?
It seems to me that having a grand struggle that creates an enviroment of a guerilla warefare or "underground" exisitance is a super twist in the Sanbox Saga.
This is one of the few games with a HIstory.. not some contrived cheep fantasy writer fiction but a playing out of human imperialistic and revolt struggles. (no real life tradegies should result yet human dynamics such as morale, betrayal, pride, jealousy and paranoia are vital to the shaping of events)
At issue is some sense of insecurity in thinking that you must be equal to win. If the odds are stacked 5 to 1 against you and you win 1 out of 4 times, or more appropiately find a way to thrive in taking advantage of the circumstances on the ground, take pride in that huge accomplishment of beating the odds. You have bested someone if you outpeform them given the odds or handicap that should be menatlly implied in the scoring if they enter the match with superior resources.
In your sandbox, you need to know that any progress in dificult circumstances is far greater than the same progress in easier cirumstance... just like beeting a campaign computer game in harder mode vs easy mode. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
117
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:44:00 -
[109] - Quote
Perhaps Goonswarm should be called Wall Street - whenever one does something drastic, it affects the rest of the populous in a trickle down fashion... |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:45:00 -
[110] - Quote
Goons won at Eve. We will continue to control your game until we get bored of your tears*. Deal wiz it.
*Never Needs more tears. |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:46:00 -
[111] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone. Yes, this is true. But consider the following; If I decide to start an alliance right now and spend three years building it up to the point that it could take on the goons right now, in 2012, do you really think that the goons influence and power would stay stagnant and not grow over the same three years? By 2015, I could have my alliance attack the goons, but they would be 3 years stronger with god knows what and still decimate us. This goes back to some arguments regarding the difference in alliances established long ago versus new start ups and temporal inequality, but that's another story. Bottom line, there is a difference, and no matter how much a new alliance builds up, the goons would always have that very VERY large head start. To think otherwise is simply ignorant, Mr. Goon-Alt. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who disagrees with you is a goon alt. This is my main. If anything, Goon influence would decline by that time. Remember Mo0, or BoB, or the Privateers? They were once the big dogs, too. You don't hear much about them any more. Politics and power in Eve is based entirely on THE PLAYERS and their actions. That is why Eve is a niche game; it's also why Eve is the only MMO with any real heart to it. The players decide what happens in this game. If you cannot deal with being on the losing side, you're in the wrong universe. Every time you undock your ship, you risk its destruction. Every time you fire a gun, you take countless lives. Every decision you make effects the rest of the game. If you can't accept decisions from others having just as much weight as your own, I don't know what to tell you.
And finally a sensible counter argument. Thank you!
While in a normal situation I agree with you 100%, the Goons are a bit of a special case.
The alliances you mentioned were formed within Eve through blood, sweat and tears. they came, conquered, died, and left. Thus is the cycle. But the issue with goons is that they existed before coming to Eve, and they existed in the thousands. Forums and multiple other games are littered with the likes of them. This is a cause for concern. I don't believe they will simply die out with those kinds of numbers, history, and dedication to ruining everything they can as often as they can.
They exist beyond Eve, and will keep coming. So unless Something Awful shuts down...they won't be part of the extinction cycle anytime soon. |
Bane Necran
355
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:48:00 -
[112] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Bane Necran wrote:This is why goons are violently opposed to anything that could make the game popular: They like being a big fish in a small pond.
They exist in games like WoW, but no one cares about them. Here they're the center of attention. "Things that would make the game popular" is usually synonymous with "dilutory and pedantic simplification."
Not really.
You'll notice goons lose their mind whenever WiS is mentioned, because they know that will bring many more people. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
Lord Fargo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:48:00 -
[113] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
I'd be angry as you if I had to pay for this terrible game, man I love moon goo. |
ElQuirko
The Scope Gallente Federation
598
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:48:00 -
[114] - Quote
Garnoo wrote:you can control CCP too.... you just need to be so awesome (like The Mittani) to gather more than 25 000 gamers.... so stop whining its not my fault you dont have so many friends!
Don't think the Mittani started SA, mate...
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1645
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:49:00 -
[115] - Quote
Quote:What would Star Trek Deep Space 9 have been without the Borg ?
Wait, what? When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:51:00 -
[116] - Quote
Bane Necran wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Bane Necran wrote:This is why goons are violently opposed to anything that could make the game popular: They like being a big fish in a small pond.
They exist in games like WoW, but no one cares about them. Here they're the center of attention. "Things that would make the game popular" is usually synonymous with "dilutory and pedantic simplification." Not really. You'll notice goons lose their mind whenever WiS is mentioned, because they know that will bring many more people.
No, they, like many players, get pissed when walking in stations gets more attntion than FLYING IN SPACE. Incarna was a disaster, and it wasn't the goons who passed judgement on it. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
63
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:51:00 -
[117] - Quote
Confirming WiS will be the downfall of the Goon empire.
Needs more tears. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:52:00 -
[118] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Bane Necran wrote:This is why goons are violently opposed to anything that could make the game popular: They like being a big fish in a small pond.
They exist in games like WoW, but no one cares about them. Here they're the center of attention. "Things that would make the game popular" is usually synonymous with "dilutory and pedantic simplification." Not really. You'll notice goons lose their mind whenever WiS is mentioned, because they know that will bring many more people. No, they, like many players, get pissed when walking in stations gets more attntion than FLYING IN SPACE. Incarna was a disaster, and it wasn't the goons who passed judgement on it.
There is SOME logic to the idea behind that sentiment though, you can't deny that. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:52:00 -
[119] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone. Yes, this is true. But consider the following; If I decide to start an alliance right now and spend three years building it up to the point that it could take on the goons right now, in 2012, do you really think that the goons influence and power would stay stagnant and not grow over the same three years? By 2015, I could have my alliance attack the goons, but they would be 3 years stronger with god knows what and still decimate us. This goes back to some arguments regarding the difference in alliances established long ago versus new start ups and temporal inequality, but that's another story. Bottom line, there is a difference, and no matter how much a new alliance builds up, the goons would always have that very VERY large head start. To think otherwise is simply ignorant, Mr. Goon-Alt. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who disagrees with you is a goon alt. This is my main. If anything, Goon influence would decline by that time. Remember Mo0, or BoB, or the Privateers? They were once the big dogs, too. You don't hear much about them any more. Politics and power in Eve is based entirely on THE PLAYERS and their actions. That is why Eve is a niche game; it's also why Eve is the only MMO with any real heart to it. The players decide what happens in this game. If you cannot deal with being on the losing side, you're in the wrong universe. Every time you undock your ship, you risk its destruction. Every time you fire a gun, you take countless lives. Every decision you make effects the rest of the game. If you can't accept decisions from others having just as much weight as your own, I don't know what to tell you. And finally a sensible counter argument. Thank you! While in a normal situation I agree with you 100%, the Goons are a bit of a special case. The alliances you mentioned were formed within Eve through blood, sweat and tears. they came, conquered, died, and left. Thus is the cycle. But the issue with goons is that they existed before coming to Eve, and they existed in the thousands. Forums and multiple other games are littered with the likes of them. This is a cause for concern. I don't believe they will simply die out with those kinds of numbers, history, and dedication to ruining everything they can as often as they can. They exist beyond Eve, and will keep coming. So unless Something Awful shuts down...they won't be part of the extinction cycle anytime soon.
So, if I were to bring my gun club to Eve or a book club rose to power they'd have to be artificially limited on how successful they could be because they already know each other outside the game? Special cases have another word they tend to go by: Precendents. You're just making excuses for interrupting the natural flow of gameplay by saying 'He started it!' "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
49
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:54:00 -
[120] - Quote
No difference at all.
We have no monopoly over anything that is a obstacle to anyone to accomplish it. Whats is it we have monopoly over anyway? Last time I checked there was great alliances all over new eden, all flying big, expensive **** and kicking eachother asses .
The only true ressource than might be really scarce that comes to my mind is leadership.
You can mobilize an entire galaxy if you have leadership, you dont need a powerful fleet of your own, just get people to fight for your banner. Hell, you dont even need to play the game to command.
htfu. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
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trademeyourmoneys
billionaire boyz club
1
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:55:00 -
[121] - Quote
good luck forming a alliance that can attack a 75,000 player coalition thats being drip fed tech.
Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored. |
Atheoss
Lunar Asylum
0
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:56:00 -
[122] - Quote
I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.
I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus. |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:58:00 -
[123] - Quote
Atheoss wrote:I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.
I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus.
Goons finally took them down. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1646
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:59:00 -
[124] - Quote
Your options:
1: Actively avoid conflict with the Goons at all cost, relocate if necessary, hope someone else fixes things more to your liking.
2: Start your own organization (if you haven't already) with it's sole focus being to attract like minded people and eventually stop them yourself.
3: Join an already existing Alliance in contention with the Goons, one that best fits your preferences, and assist that force in stopping the Goons.
4: Join the Something Aweful forums, follow the procedures, and attempt to become a Goon yourself.
5: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
6: Simply ignore the situation until that is no longer an option or the situation resolves itself. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Akiyo XI
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 16:59:00 -
[125] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
at least someones doing something about this....
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88910&p=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUX8z_ucPU "The wise speak only of what they know" |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:00:00 -
[126] - Quote
trademeyourmoneys wrote:good luck forming a alliance that can attack a 75,000 player coalition thats being drip fed tech.
Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored.
We're already bored of 0.0. That's why we're packing our bags and heading for Jita this weekend.
Needs more tears. |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
606
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:01:00 -
[127] - Quote
Nerf the IBIS!! |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:01:00 -
[128] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Your options: 1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
Yours had too many words. Needs more tears. |
Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
50
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:03:00 -
[129] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:Nerf the IBIS!!
I support this product or service. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |
Tark Grethor
Shattered Illusion
3
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:03:00 -
[130] - Quote
Goons, you've been very naughty, now stop it! There, I fixed it for you OP. Now let CCP sleep they're very tired after patching and stuff. |
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ian papabear
The Syndicate Inc En Garde
1
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:03:00 -
[131] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
this is my opinion
goons have the numbers: if you have the numbers then you make up a large percentage of the eve player base
at any given time he mittani could say to his alliance and all alliances that are blue to goon: "hey guys ccp wants to screw with us, we will screw with them.. kay guys no one log on for a month"
bam tens of thousands of players not logged on.. what happens? ccp loses sponsors.. what happens when you lose sponsors? you lose money. etc etc etc
they are simply in a position of power because they have the numbers. |
Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
18
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:03:00 -
[132] - Quote
Well You Know what they say, The bigger they are the harder they fall. the Goons canot hope to maintain thier size forever, eventualy they will fall its only a matter of time. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1646
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:04:00 -
[133] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Your options: 1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
Yours had too many words.
I forgot one actually.
Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
606
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:04:00 -
[134] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Atheoss wrote:I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.
I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus. Goons finally took them down.
From the inside.
Then they came back as IT Alliance...Stuff happened again and they died.
Now they are back as IT Alliance... Again...Stuff hasn't happened yet. |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:05:00 -
[135] - Quote
Also, ****. Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:05:00 -
[136] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Your options: 1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
Yours had too many words. I forgot one actually. Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally.
We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.
Needs more tears. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
451
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:05:00 -
[137] - Quote
Atheoss wrote:I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.
I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus. BoB has died about 3 times and the fourth is just about to occur.
Perhaps you can watch 5.0 rise up and fall - someone noted they seem to die off faster now. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
607
|
Posted - 2012.04.24 17:06:00 -
[138] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.
She has a point. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:06:00 -
[139] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Your options: 1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
Yours had too many words. I forgot one actually. Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.
The person with the "button" access can do a lot worse than just disband us ... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
607
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:07:00 -
[140] - Quote
Seriously though... I don't like any of you goons but you know?
EVE wouldn't be EVE without them... And thats simply the way it is. |
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Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:08:00 -
[141] - Quote
GOON Biryani Moderately easy This is a delicious Pakistani/Indian rice dish which is often reserved for very special occasions such as Ramadan, weddings or parties. It has a lengthy ... See more
This is a delicious Pakistani/Indian rice dish which is often reserved for very special occasions such as Ramadan, weddings or parties. It has a lengthy preparation, but the work is definitely worth it.
Ready in 2 hours 30 mins
Saved by 152 cook(s)Ingredients Serves: 6 4 tablespoons olive oil or ghee 4 small potatoes, peeled and halved 2 large onions, finely chopped 2 cloves garlic, minced 1 tablespoon minced fresh root ginger 1/2 teaspoon chilli powder 1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper 1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric 1 teaspoon ground cumin 1 teaspoon salt 2 medium tomatoes, peeled and chopped 2 tablespoons plain yoghurt 2 tablespoons chopped fresh mint leaves 1/2 teaspoon ground cardamom 1 (5cm) cinnamon stick 1.3kg (3lbs) chicken breast chunks
2 1/2 tablespoons vegetable oil 1 large onion, diced 1 pinch saffron 5 pods cardamom 3 whole cloves 1 (2.5cm) cinnamon stick 1/2 teaspoon ground ginger 450g (1lb) basmati rice 1 litre chicken stock 1 1/2 teaspoons salt Print friendly Email a friend
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Preparation method Prep: 1 hour | Cook: 1 hour 30 mins 1.In a large frying pan, in 2 tablespoons vegetable oil (or ghee) fry potatoes until brown, drain and reserve the potatoes. Add remaining 2 tablespoons oil to the pan and fry onion, garlic and ginger until onion is soft and golden. Add chilli, pepper, turmeric, cumin, salt and the tomatoes. Fry, stiring constantly for 5 minutes. Add yoghurt, mint, cardamom and cinnamon stick. Cover and cook over low heat, stirring occasionally until the tomatoes are cooked to a pulp. It may be necessary to add a little hot water if the mixture becomes too dry and starts to stick to the pan. 2.When the mixture is thick and smooth, add the chicken pieces and stir well to coat them with the spice mixture. Cover and cook over very low heat until the chicken is tender, approximately 35 to 45 minutes. There should only be a little very thick sauce left when chicken is finished cooking. If necessary, cook uncovered for a few minutes to reduce the sauce. 3.Wash rice well and drain in colander for at least 30 minutes. 4.In a large frying pan, heat vegetable oil (or ghee) and fry the onions until they are golden. Add saffron, cardamom, cloves, cinnamon stick, ginger and rice. Stir continuously until the rice is coated with the spices. 5.In a medium-size pot, heat the chicken stock and salt. When the mixture is hot pour it over the rice and stir well. Add the chicken mixture and the potatoes; gently mix them into the rice. Bring to boil. Cover the saucepan tightly, turn heat to very low and steam for 20 minutes. Do not lift lid or stir while cooking. Spoon biryani onto a warm serving dish. Rice For biryani, always use long grain rice. Basmati rice with its thin, fine grains is the ideal variety to use.
Ghee Ghee is butter that has been slowly melted so that the milk solids and golden liquid have been separated and can be used in place of vegetable oil to yield a more authentic taste.
Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1649
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:08:00 -
[142] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Your options: 1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.
Yours had too many words. I forgot one actually. Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.
Actually, it did mess with you for a fair amount of time... although to be honest there were other events in play as well at the time.
I am merely professing my faith in your ability to do it again.
Not really meant in a Goon bashing way actually, just in a "it was highly entertaining" way. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:10:00 -
[143] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:
So, if I were to bring my gun club to Eve or a book club rose to power they'd have to be artificially limited on how successful they could be because they already know each other outside the game? Special cases have another word they tend to go by: Precendents. You're just making excuses for interrupting the natural flow of gameplay by saying 'He started it!'
No. Nowhere did I say they should be limited. I am making the point the the case of the goons is different than the case of BoB or another large alliance that you said has come and gone. You said goons would follow the same, so I was countering your argument. I also never said "he started it." You really should think critically before responding.
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
328
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:10:00 -
[144] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?
Oh my god I cannot believe you. How could you possibly let a rottweiler get so thin. I mean seriously, that is like a third of its intended weight. You are so going to hear from PETA. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1649
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:10:00 -
[145] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:Seriously though... I don't like any of you goons but you know?
EVE wouldn't be EVE without them... And thats simply the way it is.
Agreed. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
49
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:12:00 -
[146] - Quote
trademeyourmoneys wrote:Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored. I have a better idea. Why don't all the faceless NPC corp posters, who hate goons so much, get their mains out of hisec and fight goons instead? |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:13:00 -
[147] - Quote
Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.
Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall. Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
168
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:13:00 -
[148] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:
So, if I were to bring my gun club to Eve or a book club rose to power they'd have to be artificially limited on how successful they could be because they already know each other outside the game? Special cases have another word they tend to go by: Precendents. You're just making excuses for interrupting the natural flow of gameplay by saying 'He started it!'
No. Nowhere did I say they should be limited. I am making the point the the case of the goons is different than the case of BoB or another large alliance that you said has come and gone. You said goons would follow the same, so I was countering your argument. I also never said "he started it." You really should think critically before responding.
Then what are you arguing? Why are you here? You jumped into an argument and didn't take a side? Make a clear, concise statement. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:13:00 -
[149] - Quote
We're overdue a major screw up. But you see the problem (for everyone else) is that we enjoy the drama... Difference is with Goons when things go to hell we tend to pick ourselves up, laugh about it and then just carry on doing what we do. Needs more tears. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1363
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:14:00 -
[150] - Quote
A goon implosion would make for great drama. Nullsec might finally get interesting again. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
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JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
607
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:14:00 -
[151] - Quote
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.
Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall.
Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant. |
Velicitia
Open Designs
874
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:17:00 -
[152] - Quote
Alexandra Delarge wrote:trademeyourmoneys wrote:Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored. I have a better idea. Why don't all the faceless NPC corp posters, who hate goons so much, get their mains out of hisec and fight goons instead?
TBH, I'm starting to think the faceless NPC forum alts are really goons... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1650
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:20:00 -
[153] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:We're overdue a major screw up. But you see the problem (for everyone else) is that we enjoy the drama... Difference is with Goons when things go to hell we tend to pick ourselves up, laugh about it and then just carry on doing what we do.
That, my friend, is one of the main reasons why I am not a Goon hater.
I'm not really a Goon supporter either, there are some things about Goon culture I'm not comfortable with, but I have a lot of respect for that mindset... and the high level of evil wit that goes into many of your activities.
Carry on until the next hilarious debacle, carry on. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Adacia Calla
The Long Kiss Goodnight The Gurlstas Associates
32
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:21:00 -
[154] - Quote
Band Of Brothers controlled EVE for MANY years.
Empires rise and fall just like anything else. Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
494
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:24:00 -
[155] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
This post is hot gargabe.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:25:00 -
[156] - Quote
Adacia Calla wrote:Band Of Brothers controlled EVE for MANY years.
Empires rise and fall just like anything else. You know what they said: "Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolution."
Mind you, the description of the current executor corp of BoB is pretty funny too. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Shanana hope
Rage Industries LLC
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:25:00 -
[157] - Quote
goonswarms main goal in any mmo is to find and use any exploite they can to make any mmo game as missrable to play for others as they can... this from the horses mouth back on the first or second fanfest devlopers / goonsoarm and BoB chat I think it is on you tube if I recall. and on that note I say
Kill em all lol and have fun doing it |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:26:00 -
[158] - Quote
Shanana hope wrote:Kill em all lol and have fun doing it Having fun is always good!
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:27:00 -
[159] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.
Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall. Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant. Id say a conservative time for a decent Japanese corp to make there mark is 6 months.
Once the existing ones get their buddy's into eve things should heat up. Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
57
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:28:00 -
[160] - Quote
If you don't like it, get an alliance together and fight the Goons.
No matter how much one despises them, one cannot ignore their chaotic wolf-pack determination. It's like a hive mind. |
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
209
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:29:00 -
[161] - Quote
i see the new npc alt party line is "goons are becoming too powerful this should not be allowed" eh |
stoicfaux
965
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:30:00 -
[162] - Quote
Whitehound wrote:One can win EVE now? Yes. By making hundreds of thousands of dollars with RMT. http://www.evenews24.com/2011/03/09/in-isk-we-trust-iskbank-com-exposed-thousand-of-customers-outed/
"it now appears that Iskbank.com made approximately $290,000 in sales for the 10-1/2-month period. These figures do not include any sales made through their sister site, Eveisk.ru and yes, those are US Dollars."
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:31:00 -
[163] - Quote
Looking for a big out-of-game group who want to form an EVE alliance. Must have 100s of thousands of members. Reddit, Something Awful, and 4chan are already taken. Any ideas for another group that can invade EVE and meta-game? (My LinkedIn network is about 10,000% too small-- only about 100 contacts). |
JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
608
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:32:00 -
[164] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:i see the new npc alt party line is "goons are becoming too powerful this should not be allowed"
Eh... We can all throw tomatoes at you. |
Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
61
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:40:00 -
[165] - Quote
Reminds me of how people cried when FL went on its shard tour in UO |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
314
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:41:00 -
[166] - Quote
Anslo wrote:evereplicant wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Form an alliance. Get Members Defeat Goons ??? Profit There you go. something that you guys struggle to do time and time again.. i love dumb ass posts like this I really like how people like you claim it's such a simple and easy effort to bring together an alliance of individuals to challenge the largest organization in Eve. Claiming this is a dumb ass post and that the concept is simple and anyone can do it shows absolutely no intelligence on your part. That's like saying if you don't like oil prices and the monopoly oil companies have created, that I should go start my own oil company and run them down. There's this thing called resources. When one group controls all the resources you need to threaten them, there's nothing you can really do that would have a lasting impact. By the time anyone could amass a force large enough to take them down, they'd be 3x stronger than they were.A REAL answer would be for all the nul alliances to realize that the goons are homogenizing 0.0 and that eventually, they'll run the whole thing and it's gg for eve. Unless they all come together and ruthless tear into the CFC in a completely and absolutely relentless attack that does not stop across all their territory, they can't be taken down.
You are assuming that brute force is the only tool available. Remember that politics is also a key factor in making or breaking a powerbloc. The whole of New Eden in Eve Online has seen its fair share of corp directors, CEOs and Prime Ministers take down whole alliances in null-sec space just by playing the spy game. Misinformation, Intelligence, building up trust for the purpose of destroying that trust, are all part of the game as well. Just because you control 20% of the Technetium moons doesn't mean that you will never be challenged from within.
I have lived in 0.0 long enough to learn that even individual capsuleers who have known each other for years can easily turn against each other in a matter of weeks for any reason. I have seen players in Majesta Empire (before it collapsed) turn against each other simply over an open position to become Prime Minister or member of the NC Council. And if the drama is bad enough, then the damage is done long before the first shot is ever fired.
If it has happened before, it can happen again. Use that to your advantage. The Goons certainly did. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
473
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:57:00 -
[167] - Quote
CCP is obviously giving goons tech II BPOs and other items for free. In payment for mixing things up and making their Inferno patch more chaotic. We all know ccp doesnt add actual features so they pay goons to add some. I have more space likes than you.-á |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.04.24 17:59:00 -
[168] - Quote
Having your Hulk ganked is now a 'feature' of EVE Online.
Enjoy! Needs more tears. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
240
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Posted - 2012.04.24 18:01:00 -
[169] - Quote
The only way to solve this is to 1) build a BIGGER alliance or 2) an Alliance BLOB :) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
697
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Posted - 2012.04.24 18:05:00 -
[170] - Quote
Miilla wrote:The only way to solve this is to 1) build a BIGGER alliance or 2) an Alliance BLOB :)
Be our guest. Might I suggest using ships that require Technetium to build? |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
451
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Posted - 2012.04.24 18:09:00 -
[171] - Quote
Miilla wrote:The only way to solve this is to 1) build a BIGGER alliance or 2) an Alliance BLOB :) BLOB or BoB, never not try ~ Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
81
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Posted - 2012.04.24 18:23:00 -
[172] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Just remember somewhere out there, theres a goon with YOUR name on it. My very own Goonie? To defile as I see fit? Oh where are my gerbils and rubber sheets. Eve... Burn it....Burn it All |
Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.04.24 20:20:00 -
[173] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:GOON Biryani Moderately easy This is a delicious Pakistani/Indian rice dish which is often reserved for very special occasions such as Ramadan, weddings or parties. It has a lengthy ... See more
This is a delicious Pakistani/Indian rice dish which is often reserved for very special occasions such as Ramadan, weddings or parties. It has a lengthy preparation, but the work is definitely worth it.
Ready in 2 hours 30 mins
Saved by 152 cook(s)Ingredients Serves: 6 4 tablespoons olive oil or ghee 4 small potatoes, peeled and halved 2 large onions, finely chopped 2 cloves garlic, minced 1 tablespoon minced fresh root ginger 1/2 teaspoon chilli powder 1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper 1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric 1 teaspoon ground cumin 1 teaspoon salt 2 medium tomatoes, peeled and chopped 2 tablespoons plain yoghurt 2 tablespoons chopped fresh mint leaves 1/2 teaspoon ground cardamom 1 (5cm) cinnamon stick 1.3kg (3lbs) chicken breast chunks
2 1/2 tablespoons vegetable oil 1 large onion, diced 1 pinch saffron 5 pods cardamom 3 whole cloves 1 (2.5cm) cinnamon stick 1/2 teaspoon ground ginger 450g (1lb) basmati rice 1 litre chicken stock 1 1/2 teaspoons salt Print friendly Email a friend
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Preparation method Prep: 1 hour | Cook: 1 hour 30 mins 1.In a large frying pan, in 2 tablespoons vegetable oil (or ghee) fry potatoes until brown, drain and reserve the potatoes. Add remaining 2 tablespoons oil to the pan and fry onion, garlic and ginger until onion is soft and golden. Add chilli, pepper, turmeric, cumin, salt and the tomatoes. Fry, stiring constantly for 5 minutes. Add yoghurt, mint, cardamom and cinnamon stick. Cover and cook over low heat, stirring occasionally until the tomatoes are cooked to a pulp. It may be necessary to add a little hot water if the mixture becomes too dry and starts to stick to the pan. 2.When the mixture is thick and smooth, add the chicken pieces and stir well to coat them with the spice mixture. Cover and cook over very low heat until the chicken is tender, approximately 35 to 45 minutes. There should only be a little very thick sauce left when chicken is finished cooking. If necessary, cook uncovered for a few minutes to reduce the sauce. 3.Wash rice well and drain in colander for at least 30 minutes. 4.In a large frying pan, heat vegetable oil (or ghee) and fry the onions until they are golden. Add saffron, cardamom, cloves, cinnamon stick, ginger and rice. Stir continuously until the rice is coated with the spices. 5.In a medium-size pot, heat the chicken stock and salt. When the mixture is hot pour it over the rice and stir well. Add the chicken mixture and the potatoes; gently mix them into the rice. Bring to boil. Cover the saucepan tightly, turn heat to very low and steam for 20 minutes. Do not lift lid or stir while cooking. Spoon biryani onto a warm serving dish. Rice For biryani, always use long grain rice. Basmati rice with its thin, fine grains is the ideal variety to use.
Ghee Ghee is butter that has been slowly melted so that the milk solids and golden liquid have been separated and can be used in place of vegetable oil to yield a more authentic taste.
I just tried this recipie its actually frikken nice with some popadoms and narrn bread .
BEWARE THO
Lids dont like it its too spicy.
Conclusion = dont have kids they ruin everything even simple pleasures like a nice meal Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
241
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Posted - 2012.04.24 20:21:00 -
[174] - Quote
Xython wrote:Miilla wrote:The only way to solve this is to 1) build a BIGGER alliance or 2) an Alliance BLOB :) Be our guest. Might I suggest using ships that require Technetium to build?
Ibis's require Technetium? I didn't see that in the patch notes. |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
242
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Posted - 2012.04.24 20:29:00 -
[175] - Quote
evereplicant wrote: which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
...
Well we gotta wait what the jita thingy does but indeed ice mining and tech prices effected me . My wallet went up up awayyyyyyyyyy , funny how the people i dislike most in the game allways make sure my wallet bounces upwards.
So uhm you where saying... ? |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
189
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:55:00 -
[176] - Quote
JC Anderson wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.
Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall. Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant. Yes, well, unlike a certain other alliance we won't start blurfing over some thin and entirely unnecessary excuse to swoop in and try to crush a bunch of upstarts we see as a threat, so at least if they come after us, there won't be a grudge of that scale involved... |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:02:00 -
[177] - Quote
Richard Desturned wrote:i see the new npc alt party line is "goons are becoming too powerful this should not be allowed"
Not true, I still luv you guys <3 <3 <3 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
455
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:02:00 -
[178] - Quote
corestwo wrote:JC Anderson wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:Can't wait for the day goons implode( it may be closer than you think). No mega corp/alliance lasts forever.
Odds on the Japanese will be the hammer to fall. Actually thats something I'll be watching... I mean, look at how serious they have taken other MMO's.... WE will be the ones calling THEM a sleeping giant. Yes, well, unlike a certain other alliance we won't start blurfing over some thin and entirely unnecessary excuse to swoop in and try to crush a bunch of upstarts we see as a threat, so at least if they come after us, there won't be a grudge of that scale involved... It's not like we'd have to fight over tech orsomething, once it gets nerfed (and if not, we're sitting on tech anyway).
Just a few friendly coathangar ops at most. Like we had with IRC, just a bit of fun. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
189
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:10:00 -
[179] - Quote
Well, frankly, the last time we went and beat up some newbies in frigates and ospreys we wound up taking them (Dreddit) under our wing and, well, now there's TEST as a result, so... |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:11:00 -
[180] - Quote
I love how all of Eve is:
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices
This is a Goon alt drumming up support, its posting is way too obvious. |
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
189
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:13:00 -
[181] - Quote
Tear Miner wrote:I love how all of Eve is:
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices
This is a Goon alt drumming up support, its posting is way too obvious.
I do think that the most fascinating thing in this thread is the amount of support we're getting, even if it's more like "it's a sandbox, deal with it" types of posts. |
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
269
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:20:00 -
[182] - Quote
evereplicant wrote: Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
Yup, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Jonah Gravenstein
164
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:25:00 -
[183] - Quote
corestwo wrote:Tear Miner wrote:I love how all of Eve is:
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices
This is a Goon alt drumming up support, its posting is way too obvious. I do think that the most fascinating thing in this thread is the amount of support we're getting, even if it's more like "it's a sandbox, deal with it" types of posts.
That's because we love to hate you guys, you're the biggest villains in Eve and when you decide to play silly buggers it's on an epic scale. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
457
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:28:00 -
[184] - Quote
Xorv wrote:evereplicant wrote: Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. Yup, you have no idea what you're talking about. Correlated, maybe, but it's not deterministic like you seem to think.
Yes, if you just stroll into Jita you will be ganked with a high probability, but you have some choice - to not walk into the storm of artillery shells. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
145
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:30:00 -
[185] - Quote
Xander Riggs wrote:Anslo wrote: There's a difference between 1 alliance building up from scratch with no resources and a coalition of multiple well established and well built alliances with SOME resources not controlled by Goons.
Think harder next time.
No, there isn't. The only difference is time spent acquiring the resources. Do you think all those 0.0 alliances just popped into existence with their resources laid out for them? They had to take them from someone.
Ah, but here is where you are mistaken. EVE hasn't existed for centuries.
Why don't you pop into game and have a look at the Mittani's start date, then cross-reference it with EVE leaving beta. Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude. |
Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:38:00 -
[186] - Quote
I find it absolutely hsyterical regarding the paranoia and angst there is in this game over a select group of people who are sitting in thier own corner of the Universe having fun. Oh no, there is a group of people more organized, motivated, smarter and cohesive than others in the sandbox. Of course they are going to be the dominant players in the game, until you prove you can muster the a better team they are in fact better than you. Yes they played their cards right and they are winning eve. You can grow a pair and work together to outplay them or move to another part of space and play the game
I can't remember at what point in my life where I was told I was guarnateed things were going to be fair. Fair is losers, fair is for the weak. Fair is for the people who don't want to earn it. You want to feel good go play world of warcraft. I play Eve because you get the thrill of victory and the very real agony of defeat. Too bad you're probably growing up as part of the entitlement generation and you'll never know what it's like to work your @ss off and earn what you get in life.
Empire pubbies are the equivalent of the entitlement generation and crapping in thier hats is what makes this game great. |
Jonah Gravenstein
164
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:40:00 -
[187] - Quote
<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
291
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:48:00 -
[188] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? [...]
Stopped reading right there, plus [/facepalm].
The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
458
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:52:00 -
[189] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it Did you try to double your hats ? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Jonah Gravenstein
164
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:04:00 -
[190] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:<< Empire pubbie, you can't crap in my hat though someone already stole it Did you try to double your hats ?
Double hats? that's blasphemy, one hat should be enough for everyone.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
691
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:14:00 -
[191] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?... They don't control EVE they're just the only nullsec alliance that can be bothered to interact with highsec |
Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
51
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:14:00 -
[192] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...
When the sandbox gets too full- it's time to clean out the turds... In pace requiescat |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
145
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:15:00 -
[193] - Quote
Javajunky wrote: Oh no, there is a group of people more motivated, willing, and cohesive than others in the sandbox.
fixed that for you.
who made this thread anyhow? Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude. |
Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:21:00 -
[194] - Quote
Xorv wrote:evereplicant wrote: Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. Yup, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Because Ill sandbox it again, sandbox is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is sandbox by sandbox sandbox sandbox. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
481
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:26:00 -
[195] - Quote
Yeah, what others have said. If you don't like something, do something about it! Nobody is going to hand you gameplay on a platter. If there is a group of guys ganking people nonstop in an asteroid belt in your system and you're just sitting in station crying about it, you're doing it wrong.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3472
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Posted - 2012.04.25 06:56:00 -
[196] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
In 2007 it was BOB in 2010 it was the NC, last year it was the DRF, now it's goons. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
570
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:05:00 -
[197] - Quote
Idiot. Sandbox doesnt mean everyone gets to do exactly what they want, when they want and all dance around a campfire holding hands. It means it is player driven, NOT YOU DRIVEN.
If you want to knock GSF off teh throne, go and do it, gather your immeasurable strength and attack them, take the space, take teh moons and drive them off.
You cant. So you cry for ccp to do it for you. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Sardon Darkstar
Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
16
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:14:00 -
[198] - Quote
It's like the Romans, the Greek, the Inca's, the BoB, they rise and fall, rise and fall, rise and fall. If its not an outside force, then something on the inside will make it implode.
Patience, my young padawan. |
Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:15:00 -
[199] - Quote
One fact of life is that there will always be somebody that is stronger, faster, smarter, or more successful than you are. The eve sandbox is the same way, right now that "somebody" is the Goons, and the thing that they have over you is numbers.
You have five choices that I can see.
1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it)
2. Do some thing to take them down (who cares if you succeed or fail, at least you had the balls to do something)
3. Try to join them.
4. Move far far away.
5. Be smart and look at these basically large player driven events as an opportunity to have fun and or take advantage of the market. Are the goons killing Hulks in mass? Then start producing and selling hulks, copping and selling hulk blueprints, or many of the other opportunity left open. Use your brain. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1000
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:16:00 -
[200] - Quote
Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156 |
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Jonah Gravenstein
164
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:17:00 -
[201] - Quote
Stock up on Arty and blasters Produce thrashers, catalysts and 'nados Sell to Goonswarm & Hulkageddon pilots ? Profit
HulkaJitageddon is not griefing it's an opportunity to make ISK hand over foot at the expense of somebody elses misery, it's also huge fun for most of those involved, they've both been well advertised, if you get caught with with your pants down then LOL. In essence it's what Eve is all about, can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen and go play something else while it's going on. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:18:00 -
[202] - Quote
Theron Urian wrote:1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it) If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank.
Minority Report, was it? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:30:00 -
[203] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Theron Urian wrote:1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it) If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank. Minority Report, was it?
Minority Report, yes. 'PreCrime' Unit.
OP probably precrimes all the time, which is why he never gets any...
But I digress... Nothing Personal - Just Business... |
Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:36:00 -
[204] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Theron Urian wrote:1. Cry, and complain in hopes mommy and daddy CCP will do some thing. (please don't do this, no one wants to hear it) If only CONCORD was better and could blow gankers up before they gank. Minority Report, was it?
Don't give them ideas. While the chance off that actually being put in game are about the same as a group of Victoria's secret models demanding that they pay me to pleasure them for the rest of my days, I am pretty sure some one will think that is a grand idea and will take up space on the interwebs with a post demanding it. The cycle must be broken, the herp derp must end here.
Side note. Good movie, great book. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 07:43:00 -
[205] - Quote
The mittani is like Samson.
Get rid of his ped0 bear fluff on his chin and goon will goaway. Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
819
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Posted - 2012.04.25 08:24:00 -
[206] - Quote
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:The mittani is like Samson.
Get rid of his ped0 bear fluff on his chin and goon will goaway.
His tilde key is his weakness. Remove it and his powers will seize to exist!
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Sephira Galamore
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
11
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Posted - 2012.04.25 09:02:00 -
[207] - Quote
Henry Haphorn wrote:[...] Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?
Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.
Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy. [...] Wow, I just had a revelation. No idea if someone else noticed this before but..
Goons are The Shadows! (As in, Babylon 5)
I wasn't around when BoB was big but from what you wrote, BoB were the Vorlons.
The Goons ask.. "What do you want?".. and then scam you to death. Most people consider the Goons as evil and a threat to New Eden. Is this just propaganda of the likes of BoB? GSF and their allies cause conflict and chaos as a means of bringing New Eden forward, while alliances with a BoB mindset try to force order wherever their power reaches.
Also, if you go to VFK, you will die!
(Now I think I regret that, while watching B5, I realized that the Shadows are no more evil than the Vorlons were good and stuff. Makes it difficult to be mad at them Goons now... :p)
But keep in mind, even a long night is followed by a morning after, and one day it's time to move beyond the rim ;) |
Josef Djugashvilis
88
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Posted - 2012.04.25 09:27:00 -
[208] - Quote
Sverige Pahis wrote:Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156
At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes You want fries with that? |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope
5
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Posted - 2012.04.25 09:27:00 -
[209] - Quote
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rottweiler?
Your Rottweiler is only 40 lbs? That is a sickly dog. In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.04.25 09:44:00 -
[210] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote:Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156 At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes
Nor was it competent/important enough to earn 10058 votes in the first place so it could then lose them hilariously. Needs more tears. |
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:27:00 -
[211] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote:Oh no, it's the assault of the nameless faceless NPC alts, round #4718156 At least this alt did not manage to lose 10058 votes Nor was it competent/important enough to earn 10058 votes in the first place so it could then lose them hilariously. "competent/important enough" BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAH. You goons crack me up.
Seriously though iv seen other goon clam that the cfc is twenty thousnd strong. So why did he only get 10058 votes. Did some of you forget to log in your alts or is the alliance showing cracks.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:34:00 -
[212] - Quote
So yeas, competent/important enough to be able to build and lead an alliance with sufficient numbers to guarantee him over 10k votes.
What part of this are you struggling with? I'll be happy to explain, you see we Goons pride ourselves on taking time to help the less fortunate. Needs more tears. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:50:00 -
[213] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:So yeas, competent/important enough to be able to build and lead an alliance with sufficient numbers to guarantee him over 10k votes.
What part of this are you struggling with? I'll be happy to explain, you see we Goons pride ourselves on taking time to help the less fortunate. Every despot need his groupies.
And you didnt answer the question. Because I know for a.fact that members of fatal ascension are grumbling about how they are being treated by GSF. Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1152
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:52:00 -
[214] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:blahblahblah
CCP has nothing to aloud or not, it's a player driven content and this means you either pick your guns and get some friends to do something about it or you can play the victim and cry mumma help, mumma will not come save your ass.
I'm not saying it's fine what I see, but instead of crying I found my way to do something about it. That simple.
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EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.04.25 10:55:00 -
[215] - Quote
only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.
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Xpaulusx
V I R I I Ineluctable.
42
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:03:00 -
[216] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... I think you should go to VFK and surrender |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:04:00 -
[217] - Quote
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
And you didnt answer the question.
Goonswarm Federation has 8546 members. Factor in the many of those are alts/nebwies/bitter vets who don't log in... Plus nobody in our alliance 'had' to vote for him, nor did our allies... Because they're allies you see, not pets. Plenty of Goons didn't vote for him, I for one didn't bother to vote at all. And he still pulled in 10k votes so heh. Oh and FA members grumbling? Good intel there sport. Needs more tears. |
Frank Corncob
RTFM Consultancy Drunk 'n' Disorderly
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:12:00 -
[218] - Quote
So the bully kicked down your sand castle, and he is too big to beat alone so why don't you get your friends and gang up on him. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:15:00 -
[219] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
And you didnt answer the question.
Goonswarm Federation has 8546 members. Factor in the many of those are alts/nebwies/bitter vets who don't log in... Plus nobody in our alliance 'had' to vote for him, nor did our allies... Because they're allies you see, not pets. Plenty of Goons didn't vote for him, I for one didn't bother to vote at all. And he still pulled in 10k votes so heh. Oh and FA members grumbling? Good intel there sport. Very good Intel my friend.
Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind. Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
589
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:16:00 -
[220] - Quote
EFF ONEF1 wrote:only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.
I don't recal 'letting them". Anyone else. WHO let them do this ????
Who 'let' you post here ?? There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
541
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:17:00 -
[221] - Quote
Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know.
Oh sure. Goons have been around for how long? We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:23:00 -
[222] - Quote
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.
Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern.
I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up. Needs more tears. |
Francisco Bizzaro
49
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:23:00 -
[223] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:EFF ONEF1 wrote:only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.
I don't recal 'letting them". Search your memory. Because apparently, you did. |
Jonah Gravenstein
167
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:28:00 -
[224] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:EFF ONEF1 wrote:only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.
I don't recal 'letting them". Anyone else. WHO let them do this ???? Who 'let' you post here ??
You let them by omitting to do anything about them.
Edmund Burke wrote:All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:50:00 -
[225] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.
Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern. I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up. That right there will be your downfall, arrogance.
And you were doing so well until you gave the standard goon reply of 'STFU your an alt'. Why would I post as my main and invite unwanted attention on my activity.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Herold Oldtimer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:51:00 -
[226] - Quote
I am sorry but I doubt CCP can explain why we let goons controll everything. The ones that are the most capable to answer that is us.
I let them because they leave me alone. |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression Dragoons.
143
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Posted - 2012.04.25 11:58:00 -
[227] - Quote
remember when these kinds of threads were about band of brothers? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
594
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:18:00 -
[228] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:EFF ONEF1 wrote:only reason goons "control" eve is because people let them.
I don't recal 'letting them". Anyone else. WHO let them do this ???? Who 'let' you post here ?? You let them by omitting to do anything about them. Edmund Burke wrote:All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
And what great FIREPOWER have you unleashed lately. It would help if you ever undocked. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:21:00 -
[229] - Quote
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: That right there will be your downfall, arrogance.
And you were doing so well until you gave the standard goon reply of 'STFU your an alt'. Why would I post as my main and invite unwanted attention on my activity.
Heh. More likely you're yet another of a long steam of jumped up nobodies prophesying that they will bring us down.
But it's kinda cute that you think we care what you're up to. Needs more tears. |
Jonah Gravenstein
168
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:22:00 -
[230] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
And what great FIREPOWER have you unleashed lately. It would help if you ever undocked.
I'm a carebear, and I'm proud of it, having lived in wormholes for a year or so on another account I know a little about protecting what I own, I've lost ships to roaming gangs, I've killed ships belonging to roaming gangs.
Personally if Goonswarm don't bother me, I won't bother them it's called live and let live. As for undocking? I do it all the time. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
12
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:27:00 -
[231] - Quote
TheBlueMonkey wrote:remember when these kinds of threads were about band of brothers?
Usually started by a member of Goons.
The OP says it all right in the title of the thread.
"CCP- Why are WE allowing one alliance to control Eve?
I don't know why are WE allowing one alliance to control Eve?
Why don't WE do something about it? |
DarkWrath
Twilight Penguin Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:33:00 -
[232] - Quote
Imo Goons don't control EVE and even if they did why should CCP do anything about it?
It's our game to play as we wish as long as we do it within the rules of the game.
As for Goons they're not really any different to any previous power, there's always something or someone else that will come along and beat them and start the cycle again. |
ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
10
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:34:00 -
[233] - Quote
Gas OP, ban thread. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
595
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:35:00 -
[234] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:[sarcasm]Actually looking at your battleclinic record, my old account has more kills and losses than you do so I can safely say that based on battleclinics API records I've unleashed more firepower than you have if you want to compare epeens [/sarcasm]
But how many Botting Macks has my alt killed ? There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
595
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:36:00 -
[235] - Quote
DarkWrath wrote:Imo Goons don't control EVE and even if they did why should CCP do anything about it?
It's our game to play as we wish as long as we do it within the rules of the game.
As for Goons they're not really any different to any previous power, there's always something or someone else that will come along and beat them and start the cycle again.
You have not been playing for very long have you ???????? You are so funny and naive. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Jijijiiijiiii Ijijjiijiijj
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:48:00 -
[236] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
man-up or gtfo back to WoW |
Jonah Gravenstein
168
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Posted - 2012.04.25 12:49:00 -
[237] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:But how many Botting Macks has my alt killed ?
Macks don't shoot back, it doesn't count for epeen purposes, everything I've shot at at least shoots back even if it is mostly NPCs
Anyway enough of the meaningless banter, if you don't want Goonswarm to control the game, do something about it, even if it's just to park as many alts in Jita as you can so that less Goons can enter the system, if Jitas population cap is hit the gates stop working, we proved this last year in the Jita riots. Much as I dislike Jita, it's a focal point for unrest and dissension of one kind or another. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Daleth Prem
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:11:00 -
[238] - Quote
Power resides only where men believe it resides. [...] A shadow on the wall, yet shadows can kill. And ofttimes a very small man can cast a very large shadow. |
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:13:00 -
[239] - Quote
CCP have already given you your answer. They even made a video explaining the steps.
Now get off your lazy ass. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3478
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:14:00 -
[240] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: Wheels are in motion and goons would do well to keep BoB in mind.
Yes a vague threat from a random alt holds great weight and is sure to give us cause for concern. I'd ship all my stuff out of VFK and scurry back to Jita but some dumb Goons would probably blow it up.
Ship it to Syndicate and get ahead of the rush (returning to your roots, ~wulfpax~, freed of the shackles of bathing in Tc, etc) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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stoicfaux
968
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:22:00 -
[241] - Quote
CCP really needs to implement a PLEX for Popcorn program.
/popcorn
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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hermot
Angels of Valour G00DFELLAS
17
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:37:00 -
[242] - Quote
However crap it is for some people, it is working as intended and is what makes this game great.
Sandbox you see. Its good and bad all at the same time.
Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
596
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Posted - 2012.04.25 13:41:00 -
[243] - Quote
hermot wrote:
Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is.
yup. In the initial game planning, they utterly missed the potential for domination of one single important commodity.
It was about as well thought out as the role of Titans. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:45:00 -
[244] - Quote
Basically we're winning at Eve because we're better than you.
Considering how awful Goons are at Eve... You all must be really, really bad. Needs more tears. |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:48:00 -
[245] - Quote
ian papabear wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... this is my opinion goons have the numbers: if you have the numbers then you make up a large percentage of the eve player base at any given time he mittani could say to his alliance and all alliances that are blue to goon: "hey guys ccp wants to screw with us, we will screw with them.. kay guys no one log on for a month" bam tens of thousands of players not logged on.. what happens? ccp loses sponsors.. what happens when you lose sponsors? you lose money. etc etc etc they are simply in a position of power because they have the numbers.
CCP has sponsors? I've never seen a third party comercial.... |
highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
45
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:53:00 -
[246] - Quote
Goons do it because they can. This is EVE. The goons are doing WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO!
Eve is designed so that its players determine its direction. NOT CCP
OP, Go back to WoW... My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2922
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:54:00 -
[247] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:hermot wrote:
Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is.
yup. In the initial game planning, they utterly missed the potential for domination of one single important commodity. It was about as well thought out as the role of Titans. when the game was designed prom/dysp were the bottlenecks, which are not regional: it was a fuckup in dominion that made tech the new bottleneck
though i'm quite sure they didn't even know what bottlenecking was when they designed moon mining |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6271
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Posted - 2012.04.25 14:56:00 -
[248] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:hermot wrote:Although i must agree that tech moons shouldn't "all be in the north". But it is what it is. yup. In the initial game planning, they utterly missed the potential for domination of one single important commodity. It was about as well thought out as the role of Titans. Well, you should be happy that the Goons are around to push things away from those poor design choices. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Munba Uanid
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:00:00 -
[249] - Quote
Perspective time. When goonswarm mess up with the subscription rate. They will be reigned in. A cyber gamer with a fluffee goatie cannot and willnot be allowed to mess up sony's proffits. No matter how awesome he or others think they are.
Relax peeps enjoy the game Its a tough universe out there and I love it. |
highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
45
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:03:00 -
[250] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
1 - Goons and the CFC operate within the EULA.
2 - Goons are just doing what they are supposed to do. They built an empire, gathered pilots in the thousands, united 7 regions of nullsec and about 20,000 players.
Let me let you in on a little fact...Eve is a sandbox designed so the players determine it's future and NOT CCP. This is not World of Warcraft or Lord of the Rings....
Eve is built and designed around the idea that players build their own empire and make their own decisions that affect the game as a whole. If you don't like it, play a different game. My post was probably full of typos. I don;t care... |
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Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
95
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:03:00 -
[251] - Quote
OH DEAR GOD GUYS! What will we ever do now that BOB... errrr... Goons... errrr.... NC... errrr... Russians... errrr... Goons again have taken over Eve! NOBODY WILL BREAK THEIR POWER EVER! |
Phugoid
BHEI Galactic Construction
12
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:04:00 -
[252] - Quote
I think the answer is very simple........
Because they can, and it's within the rules of the sandbox. -áObergruppenfuhrer |
TRUE ZER0
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:21:00 -
[253] - Quote
Kumq uat wrote:OH DEAR GOD GUYS! What will we ever do now that BOB... errrr... Goons... errrr.... NC... errrr... Russians... errrr... Goons again have taken over Eve! NOBODY WILL BREAK THEIR POWER EVER!
This guy has it right!
You want to kills goons stop being sheep. We see this over and over again, the sheep all flock to one herd, or worse become pets of that herd. Than QQ untill we start the process over!
One time I formed a corp with plans to build and alliance to kill goons. I even hit 10 members, I was fapping all over the place. Than I realized 9 of my members were PL alts and went back to farming level 4s.
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Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
33
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:22:00 -
[254] - Quote
Because we don't care. Seriously, I fail to see how goons controlling some irrelevant set of regions out of thousands and thousands of systems affects me at all, apart from some little raise on the gallente ice prices (which, by the way, I don't give a **** about) here and there. |
TRUE ZER0
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:33:00 -
[255] - Quote
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:Because we don't care. Seriously, I fail to see how goons controlling some irrelevant set of regions out of thousands and thousands of systems affects me at all, apart from some little raise on the gallente ice prices (which, by the way, I don't give a **** about) here and there.
Haven't seen that shirt before. Where did you get? |
Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
52
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:36:00 -
[256] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
If you don't like it do something about it. It's not CCP's job to do something. It's yours. If you want your sandbox back, get your little bucket and shovel and start building. Otherwise you're just another sheep. Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |
Gerald Taric
Adamantium Industry
47
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:43:00 -
[257] - Quote
as already said: The game is a sandbox, driven by the players.
You don't like the "overpowerness" of Goonswarm? Congratulations - you encountered a new epic quest:
"Build up a powerfull alliance to fight Goonswarm."
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
311
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:49:00 -
[258] - Quote
If you don't like what Goons do you have 4 options:
1: You just do your own thing and keep low profile.
2: You just speak up and do nothing at all. Higher profile and still no effect.
3: You speak up and start undertaking your own actions. Might not always be the best idea, but works wonderfull if you have a large dedicated backup.
4: You do on the forums whatever and in the meanwhile make use of the butterfly effect. Goons aren't invincible nor untouchable. You just have to have a long term plan and work on it, hard and dilligent.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:51:00 -
[259] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... Because they can?
Didn't read all the pages, just had to say that....
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Barakkus
1530
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Posted - 2012.04.25 15:54:00 -
[260] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
Do something about it. It used to be BoB, then they were destroyed, maybe you should mount an anti-goon campaign. DO IT I would like to watch, should be rather entertaining. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:00:00 -
[261] - Quote
I understand Prencleeve already has an anti-goon scheme in the works. He's a dysfunctional 13 year old and even he probably has more chance of bringing us down than most of the mouth-breathers in this thread who might be inclined to try. Needs more tears. |
WisdomLikeSilence
BurgerkingTM
92
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:08:00 -
[262] - Quote
why dont you just declare war on the goons?
In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.
So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. |
Qvar Dar'Zanar
EVE University Ivy League
34
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:08:00 -
[263] - Quote
TRUE ZER0 wrote:Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:Because we don't care. Seriously, I fail to see how goons controlling some irrelevant set of regions out of thousands and thousands of systems affects me at all, apart from some little raise on the gallente ice prices (which, by the way, I don't give a **** about) here and there. Haven't seen that shirt before. Where did you get?
Look for sterling dress shirt (white) on contracts. It was about 10M when I bougth it, a month or so ago. Japanesse players got it as a gift together with the quafe IV ultramarine. |
Max Khaos
Anger Management
5
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:10:00 -
[264] - Quote
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. ------------- Insert Goon Tears Here ------------- |
Warpshade
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:11:00 -
[265] - Quote
CCP clearly needs to impliment the Winning police!!!(Concord+), where if your Alliance goes over a certian win metric, the Alliance is concorded to a more moddest state... |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:13:00 -
[266] - Quote
Goonswarm is lead by Hilmar Veigar P+¬tursson in a Mittens skin-suit. Needs more tears. |
Francisco Bizzaro
49
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:14:00 -
[267] - Quote
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:TRUE ZER0 wrote:
Haven't seen that shirt before. Where did you get?
Look for sterling dress shirt (white) on contracts. It was about 10M when I bougth it, a month or so ago. Japanesse players got it as a gift together with the quafe IV ultramarine. Why would anyone do that? |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
237
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:29:00 -
[268] - Quote
Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team.
Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
460
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:31:00 -
[269] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:I understand Prencleeve already has an anti-goon scheme in the works. He's a dysfunctional 13 year old and even he probably has more chance of bringing us down than most of the mouth-breathers in this thread who might be inclined to try. I don't know, he has only a few days left to take down TEST.
I think they're still happily doing - whatever - down in Fountain. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
TRUE ZER0
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:36:00 -
[270] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20?
Everyone knows mittins is navigators alt. |
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Max Khaos
Anger Management
5
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:38:00 -
[271] - Quote
Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ?
Naughty naming names !!!!
You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. ------------- Insert Goon Tears Here ------------- |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:43:00 -
[272] - Quote
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:why dont you just declare war on the goons?
In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.
So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!) Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else...
vOv
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Barakkus
1530
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:43:00 -
[273] - Quote
Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team.
You'd be surprised, some of the corps out there are devs and are horrible at this game lol. http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
771
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:44:00 -
[274] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
It's a pretty awesome model for studying capitalism.
We took over half of space just to cartel one type of good.
Suck it, reality.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
771
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:45:00 -
[275] - Quote
Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team.
Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
702
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:47:00 -
[276] - Quote
Asuri Kinnes wrote:WisdomLikeSilence wrote:why dont you just declare war on the goons?
In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.
So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!) Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else... vOv
To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.
(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?) |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
702
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:48:00 -
[277] - Quote
Krios Ahzek wrote:Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.
I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots). |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
237
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
[278] - Quote
Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members ..
Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
[279] - Quote
Xython wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Max Khaos wrote:The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.
I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their decision making team. Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets. I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots). If you see ice miner bots then after you gank them, make sure to report it to CCP. Botting is a serious problem in those ice fields. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:50:00 -
[280] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
this has all happened before and it shall happen again
Before Goons it was BoB and wit BoB we had actual devs in there actually being proven as cheating in the game. Goons arent even THAT bad theyre really just apparently either pushing the game in the direction CCP wants it to go or theyve painted themselves into a corner and are unable to do anything about it.
Either way really its CCP's fault.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
356
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:51:00 -
[281] - Quote
Xython wrote:To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.
(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?) I live in WH's full time - don't feel threatened, haven't depended on Concord in 3 years.... Just thought it would be funny if *everyone* in new eden declared war on GSF - won't happen, and I doubt anyone could co-ordinate well enough to interfere...
but it would be funny!
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:52:00 -
[282] - Quote
Lapine Davion wrote:Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
237
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Posted - 2012.04.25 16:55:00 -
[283] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Max Khaos wrote:Quote:Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20 ? Naughty naming names !!!! You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules. No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going.
Because we all know how effective eve-o can be when they literally have nothing to go on. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:13:00 -
[284] - Quote
The Bees are great for creating content in the game.
What they are NOT great for is dispelling that image of everyone playing EVE being raving psychopath/sociopaths. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
773
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:43:00 -
[285] - Quote
CCP isn't allowing anything, you're all simply too weak to do anything about it.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jinyo Utama
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:51:00 -
[286] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve... It's your fault if goons have too much power, and mine, and the next poster's. It's a sandbox. The players are responsible for what goes on in it. It you don't like goons having power feel free to make your own alliance and take it away from them. |
Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
47
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:17:00 -
[287] - Quote
lol butthurt dude
srs post: The whole point of CCP's sandbox is let people interact. You seek your own little side sandbox. I'm not a fan of having my castle messed with either, but it's a side effect of what CCP has here
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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:26:00 -
[288] - Quote
Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know.
seriously, Arkturus??/
do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models.
caviar anyone?????? |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
70
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:30:00 -
[289] - Quote
Jinyo Utama wrote:[quote=evereplicant] The players are responsible for what goes on in it. It you don't like goons having power feel free to make your own alliance and take it away from them.
heh, you say that like it's an easy thing. the easy thing is to join goons and "win" eve they way i see it if you get stogie stomped by the goons Leonidas would be proud of you. not every alliance has a godlike figurehead yaknow.
dear OP, goons are not king of the castle; they just sing louder than us dirty rascals. |
Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
55
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:47:00 -
[290] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
CCP loves the Goons, they are a perfect example of what CCP wants their game to be....
(Either that or they beelieve that the only way to survive is to kiss Mittens stinger so he will buy more accounts with moon-goo, and they will continue showing an account increase)
Not sure if either idea would work as intended though....
My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale..... |
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
240
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:50:00 -
[291] - Quote
They are controlling EVE because they are the only group that is willing to work towards controlling EVE. If you have a problem with them then create your own group and do battle.
"For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing." -Simon Wiesenthal
In EVE you have the ability to shape the universe. CCP has given you the tools, stop expecting them to do the work.
I also like how people easily forget that GOONs has fallen once before and not by a massive fleet or bad leadership, but by one person. You probably won't be able to do the same thing that caused them to fall once, but with all of the Anti-GOON fever around lately if you stopped sitting in your miner you could easily get many people to rise up and join your cause.
Anyone who wants to see the GOONs go should seize the opportunity now. All of this internet drama is going to die down eventually and even the most prominent GOON haters aren't going to bother doing anything about it.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
249
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:52:00 -
[292] - Quote
In EVE , YOU are the content. YOU are the storyline. |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
43
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:07:00 -
[293] - Quote
evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Because you and your ilk are shitting up the forums instead of shooting back. Duh.
During CSM elections, you guys loved to spout how 10058 voices are nothing against the larger populace of EVE. Yet you seem to be unable to actually DO anything and let your game be controlled by this group that you portrayed as a minority. What does that say about you?
You have nobody to blame but yourself. I hope the Death Squad already has your main on its list :)
Sheeesh, stupid people always hating on the only guys who are actually playing this game. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:19:00 -
[294] - Quote
evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal. |
WhyTry1
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
73
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:21:00 -
[295] - Quote
Beckie DeLey wrote:evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Because you and your ilk are shitting up the forums instead of shooting back. Duh. During CSM elections, you guys loved to spout how 10058 voices are nothing against the larger populace of EVE. Yet you seem to be unable to actually DO anything and let your game be controlled by this group that you portrayed as a minority. What does that say about you? You have nobody to blame but yourself. I hope the Death Squad already has your main on its list :) Sheeesh, stupid people always hating on the only guys who are actually playing this game.
ahaha thats funny coming from a GOON PET... Now now run along... pathetic..but i have to say the amount of goon alts trolling this thread is fantastic, damn they even control the forums...I guess eve should now be called eveswarm...
+1 op btw |
Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards SpaceMonkey's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:25:00 -
[296] - Quote
WhyTry1 wrote: ahaha thats funny coming from a GOON PET...
Want me to repeat that with my NPC alt for added relevance? Although i fear that mine is not as appropriatly named as yours. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:04:00 -
[297] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Redundant threads will be deleted. As a courtesy to others before beginning a new thread, please look to see if an active thread on that topic has already been established. If so, place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forum needlessly and many good ideas may be lost. Keep discussions about one topic to one thread only. Shut Up !!! |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:05:00 -
[298] - Quote
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know. seriously, Arkturus??/ do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone??????
and the girl that played Jackie on that 70s show https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:12:00 -
[299] - Quote
Fredfredbug4 wrote:They are controlling EVE because they are the only group that is willing to work towards controlling EVE. If you have a problem with them then create your own group and do battle.
"For evil to flourish, it only requires good men to do nothing." -Simon Wiesenthal
In EVE you have the ability to shape the universe. CCP has given you the tools, stop expecting them to do the work.
I also like how people easily forget that GOONs has fallen once before and not by a massive fleet or bad leadership, but by one person. You probably won't be able to do the same thing that caused them to fall once, but with all of the Anti-GOON fever around lately if you stopped sitting in your miner you could easily get many people to rise up and join your cause.
Anyone who wants to see the GOONs go should seize the opportunity now. All of this internet drama is going to die down eventually and even the most prominent GOON haters aren't going to bother doing anything about it.
Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum
Singulis Pacifica wrote:evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal.
Mittani alt detected
Be more funny if it was a CCP alt tho https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:18:00 -
[300] - Quote
Kengutsi Akira wrote:Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum We're not doing a good job of it then, letting NC. and Raiden. sit around in Tribute/Vale.
It's almost as if we want to have reds next door.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Tri Vetra
Ascetic Virtues
46
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:19:00 -
[301] - Quote
tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:Arkturus McFadden wrote:If people hate them so much, why don't you do something about it instead of whining on the forums? How about someone like the Mittani unify alliances into waging war on the Goonswarm? It's all very simple really, just takes patience and time. Two traits next to all prospectors know. seriously, Arkturus??/ do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone??????
you are dumb, do humanity a favour and kill yourself |
Mrr Woodcock
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:22:00 -
[302] - Quote
You know I'm certain CCP is taking a hard look at Goon's whether they like it or not. Bottom line though, Goon's have an awfully lot of very advanced players that really do not like them in the least. Don't look for there reign to last too long, they usually collapse from the inside out. LOL |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:24:00 -
[303] - Quote
Tri Vetra wrote:tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:do you recall a former "Superpower" nation breaking up into 17 plus little republics? Those same 17 republics are playing eve and they don't want to combine forces (or attempt to combine) because the CFC will wipe the floor with their sorry arses and then they'll bring the rest of their "BOTS" INTO EMPIRE. the only good things about Russia are Anna Kounakova, Maria Sharapova and all those Sports Illustrated Russian swimsuit models. caviar anyone?????? you are dumb, do humanity a favour and kill yourself edit: goons own There are some russian corps in the CFC, and there are some friends (even though they might be set neutral right now) in the east of the map. Still, BoB tried to wreck them and it didn't turn out too well for BoB, so there isn't a real reason to rag on them like that.
I think happy mutual existance on both side of the nullsec map is probably more accurate than to think they're "scared" or something of the CFC.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:09:00 -
[304] - Quote
Henry Haphorn wrote:Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
Case in point: Band of Brothers (BoB)
Some time ago, there use to be a powerbloc that controlled much of Eve Online known as BoB. They were to the Goons as a government was to anarchists. BoB and Goons were the two most opposing forces at the time. Although I think the Goons use to operate under a different name before they were known as Goons. Can a Goonie please confirm?
Anyways, BoB wanted order and control over New Eden and its free market economy. Goons felt differently. They wanted chaos to be thrown into the mix. Overtime, one battle after another and one mismanagement after another on the part of BoB, the Goons won and BoB was no more.
Goons still like to invoke chaos even though they control the economy now. But eventually the Goons will be overthrown by another challenger who is willing to take them on for control of the free market economy.
Power changes hands every now and then regardless of who is in charge and how they became in charge.
That is a fact of life in New Eden that even the Goons themselves acknowledge.
The history runs a tad diff from that
more like Goons were part of Bob then weren't..then infiltrated Bob via a Bob defection at Director/Alliance key man level. Goons said 'now' and the plug was pulled on Bob who fell apart like the house of cards...after that it was an exercise of Goons mopping up Bobs with the very ships they aquired from Bob via the defect... Someone correct me if I've botched that. Fill in the gaps if needed... |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:21:00 -
[305] - Quote
ITT we post incorrect information about past events and call it fact. Needs more tears. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:37:00 -
[306] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:Anslo wrote:And on top of my previous comment, you would have to throw away all sense of morality (if such a thing exists on Eve).
You'd need to think as Machiavelli did, the ends justify the means. Lie, cheat, steal, betray, harass, and metagame to an appropriate degree and you'd be able to destroy the goons completely. It is only when we become the enemy can we defeat the enemy. Fact is i think the only people who care THAT much are the ones whining about thier Sandy-box (sandy vagina) I think people care that have the military capabilities, they're just cowards in regards to political fall out and taking a risk. But yes, high sec people, the majority of subscribers, the one's most pissed about goons and their economic warfare and harassment against them, are the vocal group about this. If a few thousand ships went up against a goon fleet, it wouldn't matter if they were mission fit or not. 10,000 pieces of ammo flying at a ship is 10,000 pieces of ammo regardless of whether you pvp or pve.
I'm hisec. Some low. No nil. I'm a kid in a over 50 year old body with a bad ticker. Sudden booms tend to toggle the ticker a bit but everyone needs a good diaper filler from time to time. I mine. I build ships. I fly around and smack talk with people who spent 4 years in 3rd grade. Who gives an obese rodent's butt? No one here. Not me. Not my darling wife who plays as well.
Goons provide a lot to the game They provide drama and comedy....they provide a chance for people like me to look inside the minds of people like them. A hobby of mine. I follow them in their own blogs and tweets just to see what goofy things this new generation of children has come up with next that they can call 'cool'. They serve a purpose.
I do admire what they've done in the past but being a student of trends....I find them trending towards becoming Bob all over again. Hopefully Mittens will turn them away from that state of mind.
To get to the point...finally...hisec folks don't really care about what politics goes on in nulsec...we know politics makes for strange bedfellows and Eve is no stranger to strange. Mittens will put on his show, the Goons will wave epeckers around, all will slap each other on the back. Then HGeddon V will start and idiots who can't read will die thus making it much easier for me to sell exhumers and Thorax's both of which I've been hoarding waiting for Helicity to get off his dead arse and get going again. Goons profit on the market...Carebears profit on the ships...and the whiners who can't be arsed to build a ship or mine for an hour but who want to be rich will continue to write garbage in forums and then go back to EverPatch and WoW where they came from. Love your Goons...they bring you comedy, drama and profit all rolled up into one little package of adorable cuddly podstuff. GÖ½ GÖÑ GÖ½ |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:42:00 -
[307] - Quote
Please explain how we are like BoB except for the fact that we're currently winning at Eve Online? Thanks in advance.
PS. Please try to have some understanding of Goon culture and goals that is not contrived from reading Eve-O posts of people even dumber than yourself before responding to this. Needs more tears. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:42:00 -
[308] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Look at me, I'm so very pretty and special. I'm a pretty, pretty space girl. Look at meeeeeeeeee.....
well now!...yes you are! Look at you! |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:46:00 -
[309] - Quote
Nope...most of my statement is from watching and listening to older and more recent statement from Mittens on the history of GS from it's founding and it's rise via the spy net and the open armed movement to accept noobs instead of the close minded big ship based strength of Bobs. Numbers over know how....
I see the spirit of that dwindling. Then again I am an outsider which makes it only an opinion and not a historical footnote. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
10
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:49:00 -
[310] - Quote
Shegunna Blow wrote:Welcome to the Sandbox.
You have two choices here, and the Goons have can NOT decide for you which one to take:
1. Deal with them and continue your standard routine. Accept possible consequences. 2. Move away from goon territory/target areas.
Noone has to go to Jita. No one has to mine when there is a planned, very public event occurring that endangers them.
If you don't want any outside influence in your game, why are you playing an MMO? Educate, adapt and all will be well... oh yeah, and HTFU.
-Shegunna Blow genau genau genau |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3527
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Posted - 2012.04.26 08:50:00 -
[311] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Read something on that other site that the reason Goonie plan (oxymoron I realize that that is) is to conquer all of 0.0 then quit the game and watch the power vacuum We're not doing a good job of it then, letting NC. and Raiden. sit around in Tribute/Vale. It's almost as if we want to have reds next door.
You need some better reds; they're falling apart all on their own. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
883
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Posted - 2012.04.26 09:12:00 -
[312] - Quote
The thread title is a rhetorical sorta question in a ******** sorta way. If hisec could, they would, but they can't. |
Rekon X
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:09:00 -
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Goons follow well, that's why they are called goons. I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all. |
ToG
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
56
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:15:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Goons follow well, that's why they are called goons.
No. It's not. |
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
387
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:21:00 -
[315] - Quote
Ohnoes, BoB is ruining everything. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2012.04.26 12:22:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Singulis Pacifica wrote:evereplicant,
CCP will not do anything about this, simply because they do not wish to. They monitor and as soon as the Goons do something that would damage CCP in any way, they would take necessary actions.
Suppose the Goons would be able to hack into the accounts of players and ask small fee in addition to the subscription based plans many players have. Now, that would lead to an immediate reaction by CCP and they would hunt down all Goonmembers responsible.
But what you are referring to are events that happen in the game. And if it happens in the game, why take actions against it? Just because they are too dominant? It's true, no other alliance, save for BoB, ever had the power the Goons have. But it is also possible that other alliances would have done the same thing if given the chance. So why punish the Goons, just because they have become what the game allowed them to be?
The Goons are not the sandbox, they are the water that keeps the sandbox intact. They are the "necessary evil". Without such a clear, outspoken, and dominant alliance, EvE would probably not excist anymore by now. They are what keeps us playing. Either by supporting them or taking a stance against them as you do. The game is meant to be evolved by its playerbase. Just as CCP will not take actions against Goons, nor will they take actions if a large group of alliances do form up and throw them out of DeKlein and parts of Tenal. Mittani alt detected Be more funny if it was a CCP alt tho
A "Mittani alt" hmm?
Has it ever occured to you, that even though there is a small chance, there are cases of new players joining the community? I am no Goons-alt, I don't know Mittani and I have no ties to any member of said alliance. Apparently, using common sense on the forums turns you into a Goon, whether you like it or not.
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
58
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:04:00 -
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The difference between BoB and Goons is night and Day, BoB cheated and payed the price for hoarding t2 BPO's through dev support. Goons won delve fair and square (as hard as it is to believe). Goons may be huge d-bags, but they aren't anything like BoB. |
Loose End
The Big Bambu
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:10:00 -
[318] - Quote
so the Nocxium exploit wasn't really an exploit it was just called an exploit for political chaff? |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:23:00 -
[319] - Quote
In answer to the title
Because you havent risen up an overthrown them yet... CCP cant help you now.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:26:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:ITT we post incorrect information about past events and call it fact.
Everyone does that, even in real life. Theres a reason its known that winners write history
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.04.26 13:36:00 -
[321] - Quote
Oh that makes it ok to be wrong then yeah?
You don't know what the war against BoB was like... You weren't there man. You weren't there. Needs more tears. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
134
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:05:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm? Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.
Examples
Jita Ice Mining Tech prices.
As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox. This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
600
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:18:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong.
Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? Technetium is not the only commodity needed for T2 ships. And if it's more expensive, we shall price the ships accordingly. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:20:00 -
[324] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong. Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:20:00 -
[325] - Quote
it would be gauche to claim we control your game, we merely flog you into insensibility from time to time |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
600
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:22:00 -
[326] - Quote
Weaselior wrote: we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:23:00 -
[327] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Oh that makes it ok to be wrong then yeah?
You don't know what the war against BoB was like... You weren't there man. You weren't there.
Dude, you weren't there.
I mean, literally. Your character is like 4 or 6 years too young or something like that.
Also, I'm most certainly posting in an almost certainly troll thread that was possibly certainly started by an alt for lulz.
But I'm an alt also, making things a-ok on the karma scale |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2946
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:24:00 -
[328] - Quote
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Weaselior wrote: we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH Displeasing enough ? You guys are dweebs. I'm just as capable of communication idiocy like a child......from time to time. my friend don't sell yourself short you are not just capable of communication idioticy you are the greek god of communication idioticy |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
601
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Posted - 2012.04.26 14:27:00 -
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Weaselior wrote: my friend don't sell yourself short you are not just capable of communication idioticy you are the greek god of communication idioticy
Do you sad little idiots ever actually read what you type ?
Plus, I'm gay-as-a-goose, so thanks for the greek reference. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:15:00 -
[330] - Quote
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:Also, I'm most certainly posting in an almost certainly troll thread that was possibly certainly started by an alt for lulz.
But I'm an alt also, making things a-ok on the karma scale Alts are the new thing on forums.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:20:00 -
[331] - Quote
Like all sensible people I quit EVE on a regular basis. Needs more tears. |
Edington Trent
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 15:31:00 -
[332] - Quote
My mind has been blown. I just realized that it's GoonWAFFE and not GoonWAFFLE. You Goons should totally start a corporation named GoonWaffle now. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:17:00 -
[333] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Oh that makes it ok to be wrong then yeah?
You don't know what the war against BoB was like... You weren't there man. You weren't there.
lol everything I heard was bob was cheating and forcing nodes to crash so theyd log in first an it was cool when THEY did it ...
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:19:00 -
[334] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong. Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time
except what 90% of the ppl in highsec that post on the forums do it on alts and then are immune to your doomy doom....
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Axis Raikkonen
The Black Legionnares BLACK-MARK
23
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:29:00 -
[335] - Quote
To be honest I tried to read, OP, I really did, but all I heard was
Quote:CCP why do you let other kids play in my sandbox |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
242
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:33:00 -
[336] - Quote
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Weaselior wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:
This game is a sandbox. The real question is, why are you allowing one alliance to control eve???
Your thinking is wrong. Why is one Alliance ANNOUNCING it controls EVE, when nothing is further from the truth ? we announce nothing of the sort, we merely announce the flogging various members of highsec will recieve for displeasing us from time to time except what 90% of the ppl in highsec that post on the forums do it on alts and then are immune to your doomy doom....
I'm pretty sure we are aware of who the alts are. Also, who says we will go off the forums on who to shoot? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Crigon Megatano
Two Brothers Mining Corp. GIANTSBANE.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:35:00 -
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Wasn't there a Big McLargehuge Corp. from a little while ago who used to be the Big Dogs everyone hated? Wasn't that...what, Stan? Cole? David? Oh, no, wait; that was BoB.
They used to cause quite a ruckus back in their day, too, didn't they?
And then they got the crap smacked out of them...because people got together and broke them up.
Holy crap, maybe, in stead of impotently complaining about something YOU (on your own) can't do a single thing about. If you don't like it, go start a Corp. and try bringing a bunch of other corporations together to bring them down.
Or, hey, keep casting out Troll Bait and see what progress you can make there~ |
Jerick Ludhowe
Resurrection Ninjas.
61
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:39:00 -
[338] - Quote
Tinnin Sylph wrote:Ah yes but you see it's a sandbox...
Has not been a true sandbox since the implementation of plex |
No'mak
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:44:00 -
[339] - Quote
I know my comment will just get lost among 5 billion pages, but I'll throw in my two-pence worth anyway!
I personally don't like the Goons - BUT I like that I don't like them. They add character to the game and give everyone else a villain to detest. Every game needs one, and here's it's the Goons.
They come into our high-sec space, blow up our Hulks, and generally wreak havoc. I hope they continue to do so because it makes my gameplay more interesting (and frustrating, which is also fun). |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
237
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:45:00 -
[340] - Quote
its all part of their master plan!
Operation phoenix
step 1, get into power step 2, burn the remaining old guard (inferno!) step 3, rename product "Goons-Online" step 4, tighten tin finfoil hat
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
203
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Posted - 2012.04.26 16:58:00 -
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No'mak wrote:I know my comment will just get lost among 5 billion pages, but I'll throw in my two-pence worth anyway!
I personally don't like the Goons - BUT I like that I don't like them. They add character to the game and give everyone else a villain to detest. Every game needs one, and here's it's the Goons.
They come into our high-sec space, blow up our Hulks, and generally wreak havoc. I hope they continue to do so because it makes my gameplay more interesting (and frustrating, which is also fun).
This man gets the meaning of the term sandbox War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
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