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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:08:00 -
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from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/04/goonswarm-emperor-of-space.html
I'm not sure why it's being called a leak (see hyperlink at article above). The language The Mittani is using, he's actually speaking more to the EVE Online playerbase than he is Goonswarm in many parts of the address. Obviously something meant for public consumption.
I was fearful that with his month layoff from EVE Online, The Mittani, off doing other things -- like wining and dining his wife, walking his dog, creating gourmet meals at home, watching playoff hockey -- that he might not find the will to return to New Eden.
I had nothing to fear.
If anything, the dude is more invigorated about the game, or at least stressing the game, than he ever was before. With the CSM shackles off, he's no longer content with the King of Space moniker. Hell, he's going all out, wanting the Emperor of Space robes and crown.
The Mittani does make this game interesting. He does not think small. Cowboy up or get off the horse.
There are only three things worth talking about from the Mittens update:
OTEC
This is fantastic. It's of course a play on OPEC -- the petroleum cartel that controls 79% of the earth's crude oil reserves. In EVE Online's version, OTEC controls New Eden's Technetium supplies (I would imagine in the neighbourhood of 90% of Technetium production.)
This is going to be a difficult task, getting the parties to agree on quotas and the like. It should be easy enough for Mittens to control the CFC pets (those that don't tow the line, will find themselves reset and out the door). But what of those alliances in Tribute and Vale of the Silent? ISK always gets in the way of good sense.
What will Mittens do if those in Tribute and Vale of the Silent decide to break from the pact? The obvious answer would be for the CFC to go to war, subsume those regions. I don't think it's quite that simple. If the CFC ends up controlling 90% of Technetium production, that will definitely pit Goonswarm and friends against all of space. That's an onslaught I don't think Goonswarm can overcome. They'd be BoBing themselves.
Death Squads
This announcement is super hilarious. All that Stalinesque imagery in their recent propaganda posters makes sense now.
Speak out against Goonswarm? Expect to hit the naughty list. And the new head of the Death Squads, Warr Akini, will be checking it twice.
What happens when you're on the naughty list? Theoretically, hunted and podded, until you either slap on the kneepads, or quit the game. Whether the Death Squads will have the manpower to track and hunt so many naysayers is up in the air. But the idea is hilarious.
CCP
Other than attempting to control the game, to some degree, I think the main motivation here is to force CCP's hand as quickly as possible. Basically, The Mittani is asking Hilmar "What do want this game to be in five years? Do you want this game to continue to be hard? Or do you plan to soften it up to attract the run-of-the-mill risk-adverse MMO player?"
The screaming and whining that is going to result from these actions? Reverberation enough to snuff out a sun. CCP will be forced to respond, and how they respond is what most interests The Mittani. It is what most interests me. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
T' Elk
The Drunken Empire Fatal Ascension
426
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:09:00 -
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There was an issue with translating this post's Shite
~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ // Inferno is coming // The Beard is Back, Ladies and Gents! |
That Handsome Frog
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:10:00 -
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It pops up when you try and quote it >.>, don't ask why I was compelled to quote it . |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
133
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:11:00 -
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It's Empress and her name is Jamyl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
304
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:11:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/04/goonswarm-emperor-of-space.htmlI'm not sure why it's being called a leak (see hyperlink at article above). The language The Mittani is using, he's actually speaking more to the EVE Online playerbase than he is Goonswarm in many parts of the address. Obviously something meant for public consumption. I was fearful that with his month layoff from EVE Online, The Mittani, off doing other things -- like wining and dining his wife, walking his dog, creating gourmet meals at home, watching playoff hockey -- that he might not find the will to return to New Eden. I had nothing to fear. If anything, the dude is more invigorated about the game, or at least stressing the game, than he ever was before. With the CSM shackles off, he's no longer content with the King of Space moniker. Hell, he's going all out, wanting the Emperor of Space robes and crown. The Mittani does make this game interesting. He does not think small. Cowboy up or get off the horse. There are only three things worth talking about from the Mittens update: OTECThis is fantastic. It's of course a play on OPEC -- the petroleum cartel that controls 79% of the earth's crude oil reserves. In EVE Online's version, OTEC controls New Eden's Technetium supplies (I would imagine in the neighbourhood of 90% of Technetium production.) This is going to be a difficult task, getting the parties to agree on quotas and the like. It should be easy enough for Mittens to control the CFC pets (those that don't tow the line, will find themselves reset and out the door). But what of those alliances in Tribute and Vale of the Silent? ISK always gets in the way of good sense. What will Mittens do if those in Tribute and Vale of the Silent decide to break from the pact? The obvious answer would be for the CFC to go to war, subsume those regions. I don't think it's quite that simple. If the CFC ends up controlling 90% of Technetium production, that will definitely pit Goonswarm and friends against all of space. That's an onslaught I don't think Goonswarm can overcome. They'd be BoBing themselves. Death SquadsThis announcement is super hilarious. All that Stalinesque imagery in their recent propaganda posters makes sense now. Speak out against Goonswarm? Expect to hit the naughty list. And the new head of the Death Squads, Warr Akini, will be checking it twice. What happens when you're on the naughty list? Theoretically, hunted and podded, until you either slap on the kneepads, or quit the game. Whether the Death Squads will have the manpower to track and hunt so many naysayers is up in the air. But the idea is hilarious. CCPOther than attempting to control the game, to some degree, I think the main motivation here is to force CCP's hand as quickly as possible. Basically, The Mittani is asking Hilmar "What do want this game to be in five years? Do you want this game to continue to be hard? Or do you plan to soften it up to attract the run-of-the-mill risk-adverse MMO player?" The screaming and whining that is going to result from these actions? Reverberation enough to snuff out a sun. CCP will be forced to respond, and how they respond is what most interests The Mittani. It is what most interests me.
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
104
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:30:00 -
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mittani who? |
Bane Necran
360
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:33:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:What happens when you're on the naughty list? Theoretically, hunted and podded, until you either slap on the kneepads, or quit the game. Whether the Death Squads will have the manpower to track and hunt so many naysayers is up in the air. But the idea is hilarious.
I really hope i'm on the list. I figured they might come after me when the mittani thing was in full swing, for my comments in that thread prior to him being punished. I even flew around for a week in my Machariel hoping to get their attention if they were looking. But nothing.
I think you're reading a bit too much into near the end, though. Mittani isn't asking CCP anything so profound. It's just about them being the center of attention, and trying to become the evil rulers of EVE, which i oddly enough support. The more evil they are, the more people become aware that this game needs some ideological opposition to kick their asses. We shouldn't expect CCP to step in and save everyone from the big bad wolf. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
114
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:41:00 -
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The suck-up is strong here. +1 in local |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
843
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:41:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:We shouldn't expect CCP to step in and save everyone from the big bad wolf. I hope CCP doesn't step in, that they don't change mechanics, etc.
But, CCP has been acting oddly the last year.
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
843
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:42:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:The suck-up is strong here. I've always respected what Goonswarm has done for the game.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1776
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:43:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote: Death Squads
This announcement is super hilarious. All that Stalinesque imagery in their recent propaganda posters makes sense now.
Speak out against Goonswarm? Expect to hit the naughty list. And the new head of the Death Squads, Warr Akini, will be checking it twice.
What happens when you're on the naughty list? Theoretically, hunted and podded, until you either slap on the kneepads, or quit the game. Whether the Death Squads will have the manpower to track and hunt so many naysayers is up in the air. But the idea is hilarious.
CCP
Other than attempting to control the game, to some degree, I think the main motivation here is to force CCP's hand as quickly as possible. Basically, The Mittani is asking Hilmar "What do want this game to be in five years? Do you want this game to continue to be hard? Or do you plan to soften it up to attract the run-of-the-mill risk-adverse MMO player?"
The screaming and whining that is going to result from these actions? Reverberation enough to snuff out a sun. CCP will be forced to respond, and how they respond is what most interests The Mittani. It is what most interests me.
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:45:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:We shouldn't expect CCP to step in and save everyone from the big bad wolf. But, but .. ~ CONCORD ~ can keep us all safe in highsec, right? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Ghoest
338
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:45:00 -
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I wonder if he will throw another tantrum and pout on twitter.
That was my favorite part last time we saw him. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
450
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:53:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:What happens when you're on the naughty list? Theoretically, hunted and podded, until you either slap on the kneepads, or quit the game. Whether the Death Squads will have the manpower to track and hunt so many naysayers is up in the air. But the idea is hilarious. I really hope i'm on the list. I figured they might come after me when the mittani thing was in full swing, for my comments in that thread prior to him being punished. I even flew around for a week in my Machariel hoping to get their attention if they were looking. But nothing. I think you're reading a bit too much into near the end, though. Mittani isn't asking CCP anything so profound. It's just about them being the center of attention, and trying to become the evil rulers of EVE, which i oddly enough support. The more evil they are, the more people become aware that this game needs some ideological opposition to kick their asses. We shouldn't expect CCP to step in and save everyone from the big bad wolf.
And then the Jove invade and they JUST HAPPEN to hit Goons first wit their mighty pink sparkly beam o doom
Karl Hobb wrote:The suck-up is strong here.
Think its more of the idea of "we welcome our new Goon overlords"
The Death squad thing lol All the more reason to post on an alt. Prefferably one that never logs into the game. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
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Kestrix
UV Heavy Industries
21
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:53:00 -
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Goons are like politicians, really good at hype and spin but when it comes down to business, they fail to deliver.
I don't expect much from ether burn jita or hulkageddon. And as for their death squads? well you can add me to your naughty list Goons, but I don't expect to see you anytime at all. |
Ryuichi Hiroki
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:54:00 -
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still posting dribble I see |
Bane Necran
361
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:54:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:I hope CCP doesn't step in, that they don't change mechanics, etc.
Well, more alliances are stepping up to defend Jita. So as long as they can keep the servers going, Goons might be eating some humble pie in a couple weeks. I don't know if they really have ethical issues with the Goons. It's more likely they just want to rain on their parade, but it will do for now. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
843
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:55:00 -
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Kestrix wrote:Goons are like politicians, really good at hype and spin but when it comes down to business, they fail to deliver. What have they failed to deliver on in the last year? They said they'd conquer Branch. They did. They said they interdict ice mining in Gallente space? They did that too, and for much longer than most people expected. They said they'd conquer Tenal. They did. What did they fail to deliver on?
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
843
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:56:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:I hope CCP doesn't step in, that they don't change mechanics, etc. Well, more alliances are stepping up to defend Jita. So as long as they can keep the servers going, Goons might be eating some humble pie in a couple weeks. I don't know if they really have ethical issues with the Goons. It's more likely they just want to rain on their parade, but it will do for now. Folks should step up to defend Jita. Players create the content. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:57:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:And then the Jove invade and they JUST HAPPEN to hit Goons first wit their mighty pink sparkly beam o doom Aren't Raiden. sitting on Vale of the Silent, which is where they are expected to do things first?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
843
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:58:00 -
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Ryuichi Hiroki wrote:still posting dribble I see Did you just earn a Kelduum BuckGäó (redeemable at participating retailers) for that post? The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
290
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:00:00 -
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TL/DR: Meh.
If these archetypical lowest Internet common denominators, these mindless maggots, these parasites who have created nothing original, these [...], known as Goonswarm are now the highest class of "villain" in EVE...
...Then maybe the sandbox is indeed, in trouble?
I seem to remember when EVE had a higher class of villain, not this archetype of infantile meme-spewing basement-dwellers and their kid-ult godhead.
Whatever happened to those villains, the GHSC's, the Honorless Internet Jerks, TenTron and Company, to name just a few examples?
Have we truly become this banal? This shallow? This pathetic that all it takes to generate outrage is the likes of Goons?
Good God...
Fake-edit:
I wonder if I should AFK cloak an on-grid from the Jita 4/4 CalNavy undock on "That Day" and just let FRAPS run?
The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Ryuichi Hiroki
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:07:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Ryuichi Hiroki wrote:still posting dribble I see Did you just earn a Kelduum BuckGäó (redeemable at participating retailers) for that post?
Nope, sorry. I don't require payment for my "services" |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
454
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:10:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:I seem to remember when EVE had a higher class of villain, not this archetype of infantile meme-spewing basement-dwellers and their kid-ult godhead.
Whatever happened to those villains, the GHSC's, the Honorless Internet Jerks, TenTron and Company, to name just a few examples? We're spawn-camping BoB now, so I guess that would affect things.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
290
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:17:00 -
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Kestrix wrote:Goons are like politicians, really good at hype and spin but when it comes down to business, they fail to deliver.
I don't expect much from ether burn jita or hulkageddon. And as for their death squads? well you can add me to your naughty list Goons, but I don't expect to see you anytime at all.
^^This^^ The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
290
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:19:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:I seem to remember when EVE had a higher class of villain, not this archetype of infantile meme-spewing basement-dwellers and their kid-ult godhead.
Whatever happened to those villains, the GHSC's, the Honorless Internet Jerks, TenTron and Company, to name just a few examples? We're spawn-camping BoB now, so I guess that would affect things.
So you're spawn-camping your own leadership, then?
Well, hey, whatever gets your motor running. The invention of ice-hockey is proof that Canada deserves to rule the world. Eh.
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looMin uS
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:24:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lyrrashae wrote:I seem to remember when EVE had a higher class of villain, not this archetype of infantile meme-spewing basement-dwellers and their kid-ult godhead.
Whatever happened to those villains, the GHSC's, the Honorless Internet Jerks, TenTron and Company, to name just a few examples? We're spawn-camping BoB now, so I guess that would affect things.
If I recall you never actually beat BoB...BoB beat BoB |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:26:00 -
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OTEC, well that's all well and good until CCP "rebalances" moon goo. |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
481
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:33:00 -
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As I stated in one of those behemoth threads almost a month ago - I used to not like The Mittani. I used to disagree with everything he stood for and I would lash out at him on the forums.
But that changed, once I slapped the derp out of my head. I came to understand what this is all really about and I think I may have found a new appreciation for things Goonswarm does.
So, yeah. I enjoyed the read this article provided.
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Bane Necran
361
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:41:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote:TL/DR: Meh. If these archetypical lowest Internet common denominators, these mindless maggots, these parasites who have created nothing original, these [...], known as Goonswarm are now the highest class of "villain" in EVE... ...Then maybe the sandbox is indeed, in trouble? I seem to remember when EVE had a higher class of villain, not this archetype of infantile meme-spewing basement-dwellers and their kid-ult godhead. Whatever happened to those villains, the GHSC's, the Honorless Internet Jerks, TenTron and Company, to name just a few examples? Have we truly become this banal? This shallow? This pathetic that all it takes to generate outrage is the likes of Goons?Good God...
Yeah, they're not exactly pure evil, even though they try, but they have the numbers and organization to do nasty things past alliances couldn't or didn't. I think most alliances of that nature eventually fall apart due to infighting or personal greed, but due to the nature of GS not many of them would defy the group. They've already had at least two complete failscades which would have ended any other alliance, but keep rising up again. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble. |
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