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TheRedemption
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:14:00 -
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Hey guys, it may have just been one of those flukey things, but my vespa-ec600's just dont seem to be jamming anybody. im using 5 of them and ive got some considerable drone skills but they couldnt even jam a rifter when i tested them out on my friend.
am i missing something or doing something wrong? any help would be appreciated!
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ArmyOfMe
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:26:00 -
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[ ]god hates you [ ]god hates ecm [ ]bad luck
pick any of those
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Acinonyx Jubatus
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:33:00 -
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Nerf Rifters
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.02.24 23:37:00 -
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They got a jam strenght of 1,5. Do the math your self, the odds of them getting a cycle is considrably less hten a ECM ship.
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Marco P
Really Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:31:00 -
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Well just to help with the maths then if they have a jamming strength of 1.5 and the rifter has a sensor strength of 8 (item database) then 1 drone should jam about 19% of the time. But 5 drones should jam about 65% of the time, if my probability still works at this time of the night.
If this is not so then (in order of likelihood):
a. I can't do probability drunk. b. The figures I used are not correct. c. I don't understand ECM. d. Your statement is inaccurate. e. CCP have not implemented it correctly.
Hope this helps!
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Natasha Torin
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Posted - 2009.02.25 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe [ ]god hates you [ ]god hates ecm [ ]bad luck
pick any of those
^this. my ecm drones have no problem.
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echohead
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:00:00 -
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I don't know if you were testing on a corpmate or not, but vespas might have a hard time catching a rifter. Also you don't really have a indicator showing when they jam or not.
But just stick with it, my drones jam BS's. So you know they work.
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LadyLubU2
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:40:00 -
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Ecm drones are a poor mans falcon alt C/D ---
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arbiter reformed
Minmatar Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.02.25 03:59:00 -
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nerf ecm?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.02.25 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Marco P Well just to help with the maths then if they have a jamming strength of 1.5 and the rifter has a sensor strength of 8 (item database) then 1 drone should jam about 19% of the time. But 5 drones should jam about 65% of the time, if my probability still works at this time of the night.
Chance that one of them will get a jam is going to be 1-the chance that none of them get a jam, so 1-(1-0.19)^5, or, yes, 0.651 __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.02.25 06:13:00 -
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They do work, 5 light ecm drones should jam a rifter more often than not.
Its just perception, as it can happen you get 3-4 missed cycles in a row and you think "wtf why dont these things work" but you had just bad luck.
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Khornne
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.25 06:23:00 -
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Stick with them. They saved me more than once...
-- si vis pacem, para bellum If you wish for peace, prepare for war. |
De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.02.25 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan They got a jam strenght of 1,5. Do the math your self, the odds of them getting a cycle is considrably less hten a ECM ship.
Exactly this. ECM drones != falcon alt.
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TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.02.25 08:36:00 -
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ECM drones are extremely random. Sometimes I can never get a jam cycle off, other times I have almost permajammed a battleship.
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.02.27 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: LadyLubU2 Ecm drones are a poor mans falcon alt C/D
D Can't put a Falcon in the drone bay. If 50% of your gang is not falcons then you fail anyway.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.27 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Marco P 5 drones should jam about 65% of the time
Correct
Quote: if my probability still works at this time of the night.
It's not you, it's CCP's pseudo-random-number-generator, which they still insist it has absolutely no "abnormal streaking" issues whatsoever... a thing a lot of ECM users and inventors will swear it does much more often as it should.
Now, depends on wether you believe yours was a fluke (and all other people that complain are just the very lucky or unlucky outliers)... or you believe CCP can't tell a proper RNG from a misfiring one if it shot them in the arse.
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Urho Kaleva
Caldari Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2009.03.03 16:40:00 -
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It seems that creation of truly random system is impossible due to the fact that no game coder can understand the universal truth called "chaos".
You should put a designer to code the system. Just look at their desks
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Radcjk
Caldari Failed Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.03.03 17:59:00 -
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Its an intended game mechanic.
E.C.M. drones will break your lock and jam you at least twice in a one vs one fight, such as a duel or belt piracy.
However, your e.c.m. drones will never jam that ****er when you need it.
That's my experience with them anyway
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Cadaemon
Return To Sender
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Posted - 2009.03.03 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: echohead vespas might have a hard time catching a rifter.
This might be your problem, with my skills in EFT my Vespas have a MWD speed of 3300m/s and an orbiting speed of 300m/s. Now keep in mind they aren't jamming when they have their MWD active only when they drop into orbit they could have been having trouble staying within range of your corp mates Rifter?
Maybe try the light ECM drones against him and see if you get better results. I've used Vespas against cruiser and up sized ships and had pretty good success, just know that when it really matters they will always fail
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