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Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
67
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:20:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Radelix Cisko wrote:
previous post
12 pages, going on 13. Also, it isn't up to the players to stop anyone, it's up to CCP to change the rules to allow the victims to win.
How are the victims not capable of winning? The victims can choose to run, fight, or not play till the heat is off them. Making yourself hard to kill is a good way of doing this. Play in groups, have situational awareness, move around every day. The tools exist in game to defend yourself.
This is a game of risks. Anytime you undock your clone and ship are at risk. Also you **** off people willing to pay to have you violenced then that is your fault. I love tears as much as the next person but I also make sure that I don't give other parties the chance to harvest mine. My KB is terrible btw. I don't talk sh*t in local, whine about unfair fights, or pay ransoms.
Harassment in the game is a questionable mechanic, fighting is not. Someone bumps your freighter repeatedly to prevent it from warping, come back in a tornado and pop him then accept that concord is going to pop you. You might get screwed with less if you actually take action to stop them. Better yet don't play the goons game, stop using items that use technetium. Its the wallet that hurts the most.
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Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
991
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:20:00 -
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I just wanted to say that I fully support the "Burn Jita" event and that I am really proud of our glorious CSM chairman. I even admire GSF for all the logistics and planning to pull of such a large scale event. Just one question: If I understood you right, the plan is to minimize financial losses by looting all the wrecks of freighters as well as concorded gankships.... But will the raging horde of rabid crying carebears that will inevitably undock in their rookie ships over and over again just to shoot down any wrecks and thus destroy the loot not be a huge risk for the whole operation?
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Frank Wiggles
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:21:00 -
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He's making a list Ganking it twice. Gonna find out who is mining Ice The Mittani is making you frown. a¦á_a¦á
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Rengerel en Distel
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
65
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:23:00 -
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Vashan Tar wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote:It comes off a bit disingenuous to single out 2 people when every non-goon stated the same thing after the fanfest panel. There were others that were calling for permanent bans. He claims this is because they made it political, but the response seems more political than their statements were. As for the Death Squad, I think using neutral alts as part of the group is pretty ball-less. You want to put fear into people with a squad, but then you're going to hide behind neutral alts like you claim others do? The message seems to be that you're no better than any other high sec griefer wardec corp. I'm sure this doesn't help my survivability, but this is a game. If something someone says either way on a forum gets your panties so twisted that you have to write a manifesto, I think 30 days away was probably not long enough.
You're right sweetie, it doesn't help the survival of you or anyone else in the Honda Accord :)
Personally, i'm not concerned about my survival. If you guys actually wardec us, it's all part of the game. My only problem was all this talk about Death Squad, while using neutral alts to scout. Come out as a force to be feared, or just don't bother, because it'll be no different than any other high sec wardec griefer corp. In the end, if you guys run me from the game, so be it. I know it's a game, and if it's not fun, i find another game. You guys can tell stories about pubbie tears and nerdrage quitters, while i'll just be spending my time enjoying something else. You can decide who is actually the loser there.
Don't assume bad intent, when stupidity is the much more likely cause. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
278
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:25:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote: In the end, if you guys run me from the game, so be it. I know it's a game, and if it's not fun, i find another game. You guys can tell stories about pubbie tears and nerdrage quitters, while i'll just be spending my time enjoying something else. You can decide who is actually the loser there.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2944
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:41:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote: Personally, i'm not concerned about my survival. If you guys actually wardec us, it's all part of the game. My only problem was all this talk about Death Squad, while using neutral alts to scout. Come out as a force to be feared, or just don't bother, because it'll be no different than any other high sec wardec griefer corp. In the end, if you guys run me from the game, so be it. I know it's a game, and if it's not fun, i find another game. You guys can tell stories about pubbie tears and nerdrage quitters, while i'll just be spending my time enjoying something else. You can decide who is actually the loser there.
we're not big on goodfites were more big on vicious slaughter |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6279
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:46:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Also, it isn't up to the players to stop anyone UhmGǪ yes it is. It's a PvP-centric game, remember? They come after you so you go after them. Of course it's up to you to stop them from doing what they want GÇö that's pretty much the central tenant of the game.
Quote:it's up to CCP to change the rules to allow the victims to win. So no change is needed, then. The rules already allow for that (except that they would of course no longer be victims at that point, so what you're asking for is essentially a paradox). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Pyrus Octavius
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
21
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:48:00 -
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OMG, I've had enough Geek today. I feel like gouging my eyeballs out anytime I click on a link in General Discussion anymore. Give me the last 90 seconds of my life back. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2944
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:48:00 -
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Pyrus Octavius wrote:OMG, I've had enough Geek today. I feel like gouging my eyeballs out anytime I click on a link in General Discussion anymore. Give me the last 90 seconds of my life back. would you like a spoon? |
Pyrus Octavius
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
21
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:56:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Pyrus Octavius wrote:OMG, I've had enough Geek today. I feel like gouging my eyeballs out anytime I click on a link in General Discussion anymore. Give me the last 90 seconds of my life back. would you like a spoon?
Yeah, then I can shove it up your a$$. How would that feel? |
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1940
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Posted - 2012.04.25 18:59:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more.
Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
448
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:01:00 -
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Hmmm, this reminded me of something.
Drakhen: [awakens in Medlab] Delenn?
Dr. Stephen Franklin: Take it easy. You're safe now.
Drakhen: No. None of us is safe anymore. [faces Delenn]
Drakhen: The Goons are moving. They have made alliances with many in the Non-Aligned Corporations and urged them to go to war with their neighbors.
Delenn: No. Why would they go along with this?
Drakhen: They listened to the Goons out of fear, afraid that if they did not ally themselves with a greater force, they would be conquered by the rest. But... an alliance of defense has now grown into the dream... of conquest. They believe that as long as they are protected by the Goons, they cannot be defeated, and so they go to war with one another.
Delenn: Has CCP been informed?
Drakhen: CCP has said... "the problems of others are not our concern."
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:01:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more. Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication. Are you positive that you're not? |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:02:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Hmmm, this reminded me of something. Drakhen: [awakens in Medlab] Delenn? Dr. Stephen Franklin: Take it easy. You're safe now. Drakhen: No. None of us is safe anymore. [faces Delenn] Drakhen: The Goons are moving. They have made alliances with many in the Non-Aligned Corporations and urged them to go to war with their neighbors. Delenn: No. Why would they go along with this? Drakhen: They listened to the Goons out of fear, afraid that if they did not ally themselves with a greater force, they would be conquered by the rest. But... an alliance of defense has now grown into the dream... of conquest. They believe that as long as they are protected by the Goons, they cannot be defeated, and so they go to war with one another. Delenn: Has CCP been informed? Drakhen: CCP has said... "the problems of others are not our concern." As much as I like Babylon 5, I can turn that around and make us the good guys :) |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
238
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:05:00 -
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Pyrus Octavius wrote:Weaselior wrote:Pyrus Octavius wrote:OMG, I've had enough Geek today. I feel like gouging my eyeballs out anytime I click on a link in General Discussion anymore. Give me the last 90 seconds of my life back. would you like a spoon? Yeah, then I can shove it up your a$$. How would that feel?
Whoa, what's with the hostility? Weaselior was just trying to help you out. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
448
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:09:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:As much as I like Babylon 5, I can turn that around and make us the good guys :) \
Sure! Be my guest , I just thought it was appropriate to the thread. Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1942
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:10:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more. Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication. Are you positive that you're not?
Is that supposed to be a come back ?
have some :pity:
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
239
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:12:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more. Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication. Are you positive that you're not? Is that supposed to be a come back ? have some :pity:
Hey Jade, can you refute the claims in your original quote with some facts? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1665
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:18:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
When not hunting the enemies of the -àtateGÇÜ the Death Squad w-ûll keep its skills sharp by ganking mission runners in deadspace Tengus, blowing up exhumers, and ensuring that our reach is inescapable, even in the GÇÿsafestGÇÖ parts of EVE. "
Ahahahahaha. That's like GSP keeping his skills sharp by wrestling some third graders. Umad goons? Come at me bro. Military experts are calling the Death Squad a massive fail. Cya on the battlefield.
That would probably carry more weight if you were posting with your main.... When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
311
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:24:00 -
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Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?
I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents. |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
239
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:25:00 -
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Radelix Cisko wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Radelix Cisko wrote:
previous post
12 pages, going on 13. Also, it isn't up to the players to stop anyone, it's up to CCP to change the rules to allow the victims to win. How are the victims not capable of winning? The victims can choose to run, fight, or not play till the heat is off them. Making yourself hard to kill is a good way of doing this. Play in groups, have situational awareness, move around every day. The tools exist in game to defend yourself. This is a game of risks. Anytime you undock your clone and ship are at risk. Also you **** off people willing to pay to have you violenced then that is your fault. I love tears as much as the next person but I also make sure that I don't give other parties the chance to harvest mine. My KB is terrible btw. I don't talk sh*t in local, whine about unfair fights, or pay ransoms. Harassment in the game is a questionable mechanic, fighting is not. Someone bumps your freighter repeatedly to prevent it from warping, come back in a tornado and pop him then accept that concord is going to pop you. You might get screwed with less if you actually take action to stop them. Better yet don't play the goons game, stop using items that use technetium. Its the wallet that hurts the most.
Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
1943
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:25:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: yet human garbage l-ûke Jade Constantine and Issler Dainze reside securely, squatting in their empire shitholes, squawking about Goonswarm with no risk. No more. Lols, Something tells me that boy is skipping his medication. Are you positive that you're not? Is that supposed to be a come back ? have some :pity: Hey Jade, can you refute the claims in your original quote with some facts?
I've been winding up you fruits for the last five years straight and while I've lost about 100b isk worth of ships to random pilots in the rest of eve I've never yet lost anything to goonswarm. That suggests that rather than hiding in safe space as suggested by your grand teapot its more a case of goons simply not bothering to do anything beyond trolling their enemies on the forums.
If this new initative now means the goons will "start bothering" than I consider it a progressive development and I'll await your agents with amusement in Minmatar and Amarrian lowsec.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:26:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?
I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents. We don't have one. Even if we did, you're already on it. It's a simple test.
1) Are you a member of the CFC or currently have blue status with the coalition?
If the answer is yes, then you're okay. Assume otherwise if you're not. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
239
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:27:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?
I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents.
Luckily getting a spot on the list is free! Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1666
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:30:00 -
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I do have a question though, will the "hit list" be publicly posted somewhere?
If so, can the user base put "likes" beside the various names to signify our support?
You know, I can't help but wonder if I'm on the list somewhere. It would certainly make life interesting for awhile. This would be a way to find out and still have fun with it. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
311
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:31:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote: We don't have one. Even if we did, you're already on it. It's a simple test.
1) Are you a member of the CFC or currently have blue status with the coalition?
If the answer is yes, then you're okay. Assume otherwise if you're not.
Can't I get red instead of neutral? Being neutral to GSF isn't quit what I am after. I feel special when I get red status. That is what I was asking to puchase.
But ah well, I will have to take other measures then to get the eternal red.
I wonder if Jade has room for me in due time.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
239
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:32:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:
I've been winding up you fruits for the last five years straight and while I've lost about 100b isk worth of ships to random pilots in the rest of eve I've never yet lost anything to goonswarm. That suggests that rather than hiding in safe space as suggested by your grand teapot its more a case of goons simply not bothering to do anything beyond trolling their enemies on the forums.
If this new initative now means the goons will "start bothering" than I consider it a progressive development and I'll await your agents with amusement in Minmatar and Amarrian lowsec.
I had to ask several people to even find out that your alliance is involved in FW. Why would we even bother going after you before? Nobody knows who your people are. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
68
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:33:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Radelix Cisko wrote:[quote=Lapine Davion][quote=Radelix Cisko]
previous posts
Don't buy Tech2 anything. I'm sure that will work.
Since you won't address the other points in the post what do you propose that CCP do to protect the "victims"?
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2944
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:35:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:Can I purchase my spot on the Goon list of bad people?
I will even mail you my where abouts so you don't need to use locator agents. sure, send 500m isk to weaselior and i'll get you on it |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1779
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:38:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:It comes off a bit disingenuous to single out 2 people when every non-goon stated the same thing after the fanfest panel. There were others that were calling for permanent bans. He claims this is because they made it political, but the response seems more political than their statements were. As for the Death Squad, I think using neutral alts as part of the group is pretty ball-less. You want to put fear into people with a squad, but then you're going to hide behind neutral alts like you claim others do? The message seems to be that you're no better than any other high sec griefer wardec corp. I'm sure this doesn't help my survivability, but this is a game. If something someone says either way on a forum gets your panties so twisted that you have to write a manifesto, I think 30 days away was probably not long enough.
Exactly 100% true.
Looks like more severe penalties are in order resulting in the eventual genocide of this virus that's been infecting our beloved game. |
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