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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:02:00 -
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Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this? |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
131
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:03:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this?
That'd be the end of the sandbox, and time for me to move on. |
Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
710
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:03:00 -
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I would feel with my hands. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
247
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:04:00 -
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Just build a bigger Goon to beat them. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2296
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:04:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this? That'd be the end of the sandbox, and time for me to move on.
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Justice Comes
Republic University Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:06:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this? That'd be the end of the sandbox, and time for me to move on.
Confucius says, "Even a sandbox has walls." Most annoying thing of the week: You failed to dock/jump because you are cloaked (in your Deep Space Transport). |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:08:00 -
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We'd be forced to join TEST, and you wouldn't want that... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Pod Potato
Gluttonous Hungers Inc.
61
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:08:00 -
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High, cus it would never happen. Much like a pepper I enjoy inflicting pain on others... preferably in the mouth and anus. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
179
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:09:00 -
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Crap (active dev/GM interference) has been dropped in the "sandbox" from time to time.
People still believe in the sandbox.
BoB were once viewed in the same way as Goons are now. Things change, when they stop changing Eve is dead. |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
353
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:10:00 -
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EVE would cease to be a sandbox. It would represent a terrible game design decision and I would reconsider my subscription.
Nothing Goons have done has been against the rules. If something Goons are doing is capable of breaking gameplay for everyone else (and affecting it in ways they don't like doesn't count as breaking), then it's CCP's job to change game mechanics such that it isn't possible. |
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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
264
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:11:00 -
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I think that RvB should be disbanded as well. How do you feel about that? Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
114
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:11:00 -
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I'd kill myself IRL.. Needs more tears. |
Jennylicous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:12:00 -
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CCP would just alter game mechanics to combat anything they see as detrimental to the game before disbanding an alliance. So suicide ganking would likely become a thing of the past or just more risky to the aggressors in whether they are successful (i.e. faster concord response times, and larger presence). |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
452
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:12:00 -
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Justice Comes wrote: Confucius says, "Even a sandbox has walls."
Best reply ever.
Even so, I don't think forcibly disbanding goons would be a good precedent or action, nor would it stop goons (or other entities) from doing the same thing all over again.
Besides, they already cascaded once, and came back stronger than ever. Band of Brothers has cascaded at least three times now, and they're still around in some form. Goons are bound by a common out-of-game website (SomethingAwful) and would probably still be almost if not just as effective as they are now if they were a decentralized ingame entity.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:13:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:EVE would cease to be a sandbox. It would represent a terrible game design decision and I would reconsider my subscription.
Nothing Goons have done has been against the rules. If something Goons are doing is capable of breaking gameplay for everyone else (and affecting it in ways they don't like doesn't count as breaking), then it's CCP's job to change game mechanics such that it isn't possible. Depends on what you define as game mechanics. There's always the magic wand of "not XXYY is an exploit". Like with POS bowling and maybe soon suicide ganking ~ in the highsec carebear's utopia ~ (where only rocks and red crosses suffer for the greater good). Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
278
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:13:00 -
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Even if under some bizzaro situation CCP were to address what the Goons are doing, they would not disband them. The issues would be dealt with on an account by account basis and changes would be made to the game. A big piece of this whole event is a perceived game of chicken to see if CCP will react to the Jita event because of their Dust/Sony investment. That perception coming from MittaniGÇÖs comments on an audio blog he posted a while back.
I just want some popcorn and ringside seat to watch the world burn.
I don't always finish my commentary, but when I do |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
133
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:14:00 -
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Only if they used an old BoB alt to do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Shukuzen Kiraa
47-Ronin Outer Ring Excavations Syndicate
122
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:16:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:I'd kill myself IRL..
I am guessing this is the response most goons would give. I laugh at it because I really think your attention whoring in eve is that important to you guys. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:16:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Even if under some bizzaro situation CCP were to address what the Goons are doing, they would not disband them. The issues would be dealt with on an account by account basis and changes would be made to the game. A big piece of this whole event is a perceived game of chicken to see if CCP will react to the Jita event because of their Dust/Sony investment. That perception coming from MittaniGÇÖs comments on an audio blog he posted a while back.
I just want some popcorn and ringside seat to watch the world burn.
Don't be idiotic, people on the forums have repeatedly stated it's for his ego and/or because we are about to failcascade.
How dare you think he's being honest with us. Clearly CCP would never be swayed by lots of money, to suggest such a test is even necessary should be a bannable exploit.
P.S. And your dog. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:16:00 -
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Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:I'd kill myself IRL.. I am guessing this is the response most goons would give. I laugh at it because I really think your attention whoring in eve is THAT important to you guys. Don't do that, CCP would have to inform the local police as per their offical policy. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Lorkin Desal
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
96
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:17:00 -
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CCP could hit the disband button and say a disafected director did it. No-one could proove otherwise.
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Enquirer
Shadow Operations Inc. CORE Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:17:00 -
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As long as they stay within the bounds of the game and dont break the rules.. i have no issues of dumbasses (goons) running around doing stupid ****. It creates good content. As for CCP getting involved... I think some are giving goons to much credit, Other then some ganks, i see no impact on game.
goones... then some other corp will take over, then some other after that and after that.... Only reason we even know who they are is there dumbass leader opened his mouth and then got mad, both recorded for our enjoyment. |
Digital Messiah
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
198
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:18:00 -
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I don't think they should disband an entire corporation. I don't think GSF is breaking the rules. But I do think they will forever paint themselves as D-bags. Between their message, scams, and actions, they already are known as trolls. You know what they say, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. When the next "big thing" comes around and conquers them. The community will laugh and talk about the GSF the same way BoB is generally talked about. "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:19:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Besides, they already cascaded once, and came back stronger than ever. Band of Brothers has cascaded at least three times now, and they're still around in some form. Goons are bound by a common out-of-game website (SomethingAwful) and would probably still be almost if not just as effective as they are now if they were a decentralized ingame entity. We didn't exactly cascade, someone pushed our magic button.
That said, out of game comms do exist, of course. And the rest of the coalition (who aren't goons) would hopefully, er, ... well Test Coalition Please Ignore, led by executor corp Test Executor Please Ignore would be hilarious.
Still though, Test Gankers Please Ignore would be the best gimmick ever.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Carver DiGriz
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:19:00 -
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I like that players create the content here - and Goonies do it as well as anyone. Respect for that.
If the goons ever do go, I would hope its a player group that burns them out. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:20:00 -
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Lorkin Desal wrote:CCP could hit the disband button and say a disafected director did it. No-one could prove otherwise.
Since only a very few number of people have the button access, that would backfire to say the least. Everyone knows the executor corp is just a holding corp (among other things, I have no idea what). Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1294
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:22:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this?
It would affect my game not in the least, but the forums would become pretty interesting for a while.
Mr Epeen
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1569
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:25:00 -
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I would feel like they got what was coming to them. If you **** people over constantly you can only expect to be dicked back. I doubt GS would be disbanded for anything stated in the OP. All of that is part of the sandbox which CCP prides themselves on. If anything GS would be banned for things that publicly humiliate CCP or for real life threats in game...things like that. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
41
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:25:00 -
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This is not needed and not wanted.
Each of their actions can be easily countered by CCP. Concord reaction time can be lowered, this awesome idea could be applied, or technetium could be easier to obtain.
Goons just play the game. If CCP thinks they are ruling EVE they can resolve this without needing to disband the corp.
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions.
Bring justice to EVE:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1171333 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
461
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Posted - 2012.04.25 17:25:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Lady Ayeipsia wrote:Assuming worst case, that burn jita, the deathsquad, and the technitium monopoly all succeed, force a large player base from eve, and CCP opted to disbanded goons, how would you view this? It would affect my game not in the least, but the forums would become pretty interesting for a while. Mr Epeen That they would be. Even before those mentioned events have started, the forums are already a lot more interesting. At least the average highsec pubbie can engage, instead of titan tracking debates in the wild wild west of nullsec, where capitals and supercapitals are formed into fleets - rather than mining veldspar by themselves.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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