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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:23:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:People with older accounts that create an alt on an existing account would not be flagged as rookies. I had a trial account a year and a half ago, but only turned it into a regular account 13 days ago. Despite my account being over a year old, I have less than a month of playtime.
I wouldn't be surprised if a number of new players are those who've upgraded trials they've had for a while. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:50:00 -
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silens vesica wrote: While I don't disagree, I will note that this puts a heavy chill on a whole lot of popular Empire Space activities - It's basically creating a 'landmine' problem. If you can't at least approximately identify a 'rookie,' then any aggressive act against a rather broad class of characters risks a ban.
I don't think it's a landmine problem.
I did my trial account after Incarna came out and during my trial I was contacted by not one, but four GMs who wanted to make sure I was understanding the game and not being griefed. The rookie help channel was full of people having difficulties - someone had flipped their can, or they got shot at or CONCORD'd and didn't understand how this had happened, or someone was in their mission stealing their Dagon, what to do?!
For 90% of the player base, this is background noise, but the GMs are dealing with this on a daily basis.
I think the problem is that for some members of the forum, this just popped up on their radar, while the GMs have probably dealt with 100+ instances of people 'messing with rookies' and have come to the sort of informal standard that groups create.
If someone's been operating in Empire space and never gotten in trouble for 'messing with rookies,' the chance that they'll suddenly get banned is rather low.
Are their a few outliners? Yes, but that's true of all rule enforcement. And it doesn't help that when people come on the forum to complain about a GM's actions, they tend to give a very skewed accounting of what happened. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.14 19:55:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote: You remembered your login details after a year and a half? I have a trail of failed trial accounts, but I always started fresh when I tried again (mainly because I forgot the login details, but partly because I needed the trial to decide).
I remembered the log-in name and was able to reset the password.
You can't delete accounts (that I know of) and having a bunch of trials forever floating in the aether would bother me to no end. Besides, I liked my trial and knew I wanted a long-term sub; it just took me a while until I had the time and right mindset for really getting into the game. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:06:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote: so when I fly into a system, will it inform me that it's a rookie system, or am I just supposed to know?
Rookie systems.
I suspect you're supposed to know. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Makkal Hanaya
Drakenburg
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Posted - 2012.06.14 21:26:00 -
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Iskawa Zebrut wrote:I don't really understand this. EVE is marketed out (and entirely known) as an incredibly hostile, cut-throat sandbox where just about anything is permitted. If someone will quit after getting **** on in the early game, they are magnitudes more likely to quit after getting **** on later when they have more to lose. I suppose it's all about getting their money before they realize this isn't the game for them. I suspect we're getting closer to the heart of the disagreement.
Climbing Mount Everest is a harsh, brutal experience. Being the smallest guy in the prison shower room is also harsh and brutal. If your first days in EVE lead you to believe it's like Mount Everest, you're likely to continue for a while. If your first days make you feel like the shower room *****, you'll likely quit. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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