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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
259
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:49:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Wait, isn't Jita a rookie system? Show up Saturday and see if it looks like a rookie system. Long answer: no. Jita is the most dangerous high sec system.
So it's a Cookie system :) |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
669
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:51:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Wait, isn't Jita a rookie system? Show up Saturday and see if it looks like a rookie system. Long answer: no. Jita is the most dangerous high sec system. So it's a Cookie system :) That's a good way to put it
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
259
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:54:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Wait, isn't Jita a rookie system? Show up Saturday and see if it looks like a rookie system. Long answer: no. Jita is the most dangerous high sec system. So it's a Cookie system :) That's a good way to put it
Well, I guess I should sell tickets, I can park a few account toons in there and get isk to log off to free up a slot as it is limited :)
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
669
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Posted - 2012.04.26 21:57:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Gogela wrote:Miilla wrote:Wait, isn't Jita a rookie system? Show up Saturday and see if it looks like a rookie system. Long answer: no. Jita is the most dangerous high sec system. So it's a Cookie system :) That's a good way to put it Well, I guess I should sell tickets, I can park a few account toons in there and get isk to log off to free up a slot as it is limited :) LOL! Good luck with that. The rumor mill suggests Jita is getting reinforced tomorrow through the weekend. I think we'll be looking at a new jita record on saturday or sunday. 5000+ would not surprise me in the least.
Edit: Time Dilated jita... we're gonna party like it's 2003...
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:33:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote:
I guess in the future I'll just make a petition when I have a question for the GM's.. Clearly most would rather assume that anyone who wants to know the rules is trying to subvert them..
uh yeah well it IS EVE after all... Cant really say more than that to make it clearer
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:38:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:[quote=hakkiew365]*snip* a sociopathic rush? rofl *snip* Sociopaths don't get a "rush" of any kind. That's what makes them sociopaths.
Psychopathic rush?
Yes as I understand it its just when the sociopath or rather those with anti social personality disorder (as I understand it sociopath isnt the correct term anymore) cant talk themselves out of doint it. AND they dont have remorse or conscience. See the TV show Dexter
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:46:00 -
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ugh I have to triple post cause "theres too many quotes"
Gogela wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:hakkiew365 wrote:*snip* a sociopathic rush? rofl *snip* Sociopaths don't get a "rush" of any kind. That's what makes them sociopaths. Psychopathic rush? Yes as I understand it its just when the sociopath or rather those with anti social personality disorder (as I understand it sociopath isnt the correct term anymore) cant talk themselves out of doint it. AND they dont have remorse or conscience. See the TV show Dexter GM Homonoia wrote:[quote=ian papabear]okay so i get the "dont mess with the rookies period" point, but is pvp still allowed in the system? like for example can you pvp with someone who isnt a rookie in that system?
I dont pvp in rookie systems but when i would go to them i would see people pvping outside the staton who arent rookies Yes, you can still PvP there. You cannot mess with the rookies there, what you do to other people is your own business. Note that dropping your property into space in a rookie system is not a bright idea. If a rookie gets curious ad takes from the can you had better not shoot him. You do not want a rookie to nab your stuff, do not drop the stuff in a rookie system.
Man youd swear the ppl in this game are idiots for not being able to follow so simple a command as "dont mess with them" But no I realize its not them being stupid that it is in fact every bit of them thinking they're smart for looking for a loophole so they can grief the noob players and say "GM HOMONIA SED WE KULD DO IT!!!!"
and its because of ppl like that you wont GET a specific answer.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
669
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:47:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Gogela wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:[quote=hakkiew365]*snip* a sociopathic rush? rofl *snip* Sociopaths don't get a "rush" of any kind. That's what makes them sociopaths. Psychopathic rush? Yes as I understand it its just when the sociopath or rather those with anti social personality disorder (as I understand it sociopath isnt the correct term anymore) cant talk themselves out of doint it. AND they dont have remorse or conscience. See the TV show Dexter There's a difference between a compulsion/obsession and emotion. American Psycho vs Dexter. I got 20 on Patrick Bateman.
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
82
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:50:00 -
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CCP sadbox kinda.
lol anyone who gets ganked in a hauler should petition CCP and say HEY IM STILL LEARNING I TOOK A BREAK lul.
Whos up for making trail accounts and can flipping in noob sysytems just because of CCPS dumb rule? |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.04.26 22:51:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Gogela wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:[quote=hakkiew365]*snip* a sociopathic rush? rofl *snip* Sociopaths don't get a "rush" of any kind. That's what makes them sociopaths. Psychopathic rush? Yes as I understand it its just when the sociopath or rather those with anti social personality disorder (as I understand it sociopath isnt the correct term anymore) cant talk themselves out of doint it. AND they dont have remorse or conscience. See the TV show Dexter There's a difference between a compulsion/obsession and emotion. American Psycho vs Dexter. I got 20 on Patrick Bateman.
Didnt say anything about emotion lol Rush =/= an emotional release. Just like how certain serial killers replace sex with murder cause thats the only way they can get the thrill.
this conversation is getting way off topic and creepy lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2012.04.26 23:54:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:CCP sadbox kinda.
lol anyone who gets ganked in a hauler should petition CCP and say HEY IM STILL LEARNING I TOOK A BREAK lul.
Whos up for making trail accounts and can flipping in noob sysytems just because of CCPS dumb rule?
Im sorry, if you cant see the reasoning behind this rule, noone can... just do the rest of us a favor and go break it -.-
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
82
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Posted - 2012.04.27 02:23:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:supersexysucker wrote:CCP sadbox kinda.
lol anyone who gets ganked in a hauler should petition CCP and say HEY IM STILL LEARNING I TOOK A BREAK lul.
Whos up for making trail accounts and can flipping in noob sysytems just because of CCPS dumb rule? Im sorry, if you cant see the reasoning behind this rule, noone can... just do the rest of us a favor and go break it -.-
To stop nubs from rage quitting?
Cause when you gank them in 30 days... they won't?
Got news for ya... when I started playing it was around x-mas with the snow ball launchers... I was like a day old... guy started shooting me with it... I shot back got blowed up...
O **** IM STILL HERE... so anyone again the reason?
Learned about concord really fast.
Should I cry to CCP about a guy killing a like 2 day old via something CCP gave them? |
Astrid Stjerna
Underking Family
659
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Posted - 2012.04.27 10:37:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote: Does your statement means Baiting and Flipping is now allowed, providing you don't kill Rookies ?
What Homonoia said was along the lines of 'better safe than sorry': dropping a can in a rookie system, even if it's a perfectly innocent and legitimate cargo transfer, can be misinterpreted as an attempt to can-bait, so it's probably better to wait until you're docked and do it manually.
If you do drop a legitimate can and someone does scoop your cargo, don't shoot them, because by the letter of the law, that's still considered can-baiting. I can't get rid of my darn signature!-á Oh, wait.... |
Rekon X
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.27 11:07:00 -
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Orlacc wrote: Why are you in a rookie system in the first place?
Simple I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all. |
Rekon X
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.04.27 11:11:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Define a rookie? 1 week old? 1 month old? There has to be a limit, where is it?
Seems this one is looking hard for a way to gank rookies.
Can not get any more pathetic than that.
What if.... What if.... What if....
What are you 2? I don't care what you think, if you ever think at all. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
9
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Posted - 2012.04.27 11:48:00 -
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Really don't understand how this is even of interest to anyone who isn't either covertly or overtly looking to pop rookies.
"The rules don't concern me because I don't pop rookies, but I'm really interested anyway"
Cmon... |
Gerald Taric
Adamantium Industry
47
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Posted - 2012.04.27 14:53:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Define a Rookie, we need a clear definition. Surely a Hulk player in 1.0 rookie system is NOT a rookie. or a 1 or 2 month old player is NOT a rookie. The answer can be found in this posting, but not in the way you want it to be: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1198726#post1198726
In short: Obviously there's intentionally no hard definition. Use common sense and if in doubt, assume the pilot in question being a rookie. Otherwise take the risk of being wrong.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:07:00 -
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Rekon X wrote:Miilla wrote:Define a rookie? 1 week old? 1 month old? There has to be a limit, where is it? Seems this one is looking hard for a way to gank rookies. Can not get any more pathetic than that. What if.... What if.... What if.... What are you 2?
No, just a typical EVE ganker trying to find a loophole and being frustrated by the GM refusing to give one
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Velicitia
Open Designs
885
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:16:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:supersexysucker wrote:CCP sadbox kinda.
lol anyone who gets ganked in a hauler should petition CCP and say HEY IM STILL LEARNING I TOOK A BREAK lul.
Whos up for making trail accounts and can flipping in noob sysytems just because of CCPS dumb rule? Im sorry, if you cant see the reasoning behind this rule, noone can... just do the rest of us a favor and go break it -.- To stop nubs from rage quitting? Cause when you gank them in 30 days... they won't? Got news for ya... when I started playing it was around x-mas with the snow ball launchers... I was like a day old... guy started shooting me with it... I shot back got blowed up... O **** IM STILL HERE... so anyone again the reason? Learned about concord really fast. Should I cry to CCP about a guy killing a like 2 day old via something CCP gave them?
CCP, BRING BACK SNOWBALLS!!! |
Duvida
The Scope Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2012.04.27 17:21:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:CCP sadbox kinda.
lol anyone who gets ganked in a hauler should petition CCP and say HEY IM STILL LEARNING I TOOK A BREAK lul.
Whos up for making trail accounts and can flipping in noob sysytems just because of CCPS dumb rule?
If it's an experienced player in a Hulk (check the training time for a Hulk, it isn't going to be a new player driving that, right?) and you are running a new alt... well, that Hulk shouldn't be attacking new players. I guess it's a risk older players take when trying to hide in newbie systems.
But getting angry and trying to get a rule loophole that allows the griefing of a brand new player, even in the name of 'insert self-righteous cause here', is pretty image destroying. Unless you wanted to have the image of someone that picks on the 1-year-old in the yard because the 2-year-olds are already at 25 pounds and can beat you up, that is. Just FYI
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1243
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Posted - 2012.04.27 23:50:00 -
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Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and constructive, thank you. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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SghnDubh
BattleClinic
3
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Posted - 2012.05.02 00:37:00 -
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Makes me want to add a tag to my killboards.
If you show up as the aggressor in a noob system, and the pilot has less than 6 months ingame, you'll get a bully badge. And it may not really be the kind of badge you want people to see.
Just thinking out loud, so to speak... |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
93
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Posted - 2012.05.02 02:16:00 -
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SghnDubh wrote: Makes me want to add a tag to my killboards.
If you show up as the aggressor in a noob system, and the pilot has less than 6 months ingame, you'll get a bully badge. And it may not really be the kind of badge you want people to see.
Just thinking out loud, so to speak...
If you shoot someone an kill em in the noob system an they're a noob, youll get a ban badge.
Just thinking out loud, so to speak...
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
286
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Posted - 2012.05.02 03:57:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:I shall make this real simple: Do not mess with rookies in rookie systems in any way. They are still trying to figure out how to read the overview and how to right click; messing with them at that point in their career is something for bullies who have something to compensate for and only dare to pick on the smallest, weakest boy in kindergarten.
first thing I did when I started eve was attack one of those NPC cargo ships that travel from station to station.... I didn't realize it was NPC at the time. It kicked my never-docked-in-it's life noob ship's buttox.
The second thing I did was undock in another noob ship and find a real player to attack. They also kicked my ass.
Perhaps I'm not the typical new player. However, I don't believe I'm the only one that would ever try to do such a thing. In my case, I wasn't upset that they kicked my butt, in fact I expected it.
Personally I don't think there's a better time to let new players know that there is no safe place in eve, than before they subscribe.
This false sense of security you give them only breeds resentment when they ultimately do get ganked in high sec. BUT... because you've protected them while it would be relatively in-expensive, they are surprised when they lose millions or even billions.
Eve players don't need to be molly-coddled. And players that need to have their hand held simply aren't going to like Eve as it is. That's something you really should come to terms with, and either accept it or change Eve.
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
286
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Posted - 2012.05.02 04:00:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:SghnDubh wrote: Makes me want to add a tag to my killboards.
If you show up as the aggressor in a noob system, and the pilot has less than 6 months ingame, you'll get a bully badge. And it may not really be the kind of badge you want people to see.
Just thinking out loud, so to speak...
If you shoot someone an kill em in the noob system an they're a noob, youll get a ban badge. Just thinking out loud, so to speak...
Phineas T. Barnum wrote:There is no such thing as bad publicity ... |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
286
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Posted - 2012.05.02 04:06:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:ian papabear wrote:okay so i get the "dont mess with the rookies period" point, but is pvp still allowed in the system? like for example can you pvp with someone who isnt a rookie in that system?
I dont pvp in rookie systems but when i would go to them i would see people pvping outside the staton who arent rookies Yes, you can still PvP there. You cannot mess with the rookies there, what you do to other people is your own business. Note that dropping your property into space in a rookie system is not a bright idea. If a rookie gets curious ad takes from the can you had better not shoot him. You do not want a rookie to nab your stuff, do not drop the stuff in a rookie system.
What if we bait someone we're mentoring... strictly as part of the mentoring process? ... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1885
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Posted - 2012.05.02 04:33:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:I shall make this real simple: Do not mess with rookies in rookie systems in any way. They are still trying to figure out how to read the overview and how to right click; messing with them at that point in their career is something for bullies who have something to compensate for and only dare to pick on the smallest, weakest boy in kindergarten. first thing I did when I started eve was attack one of those NPC cargo ships that travel from station to station.... I didn't realize it was NPC at the time. It kicked my never-docked-in-it's life noob ship's buttox. The second thing I did was undock in another noob ship and find a real player to attack. They also kicked my ass. Perhaps I'm not the typical new player. However, I don't believe I'm the only one that would ever try to do such a thing. In my case, I wasn't upset that they kicked my butt, in fact I expected it. Personally I don't think there's a better time to let new players know that there is no safe place in eve, than before they subscribe. This false sense of security you give them only breeds resentment when they ultimately do get ganked in high sec. BUT... because you've protected them while it would be relatively in-expensive, they are surprised when they lose millions or even billions. Eve players don't need to be molly-coddled. And players that need to have their hand held simply aren't going to like Eve as it is. That's something you really should come to terms with, and either accept it or change Eve. First off, you were the one who initiated those attacks and got what you deserved.
Secondly, new players in the rookie systems only have a limited amount of missions they can run for those agents.
Thirdly, those agents are teaching new players how to interact with the various aspects of the game.
Last but not least, when those new players do leave the rookie system, they won't be rich or flying millions or billions worth of equipment. As soon as they leave the rookie systems, they probably already know the griefers mantra and if not, they quickly learn 'there's no safe place in Eve'.
Bottom line: Just leave the new players alone, there is more than enough other experienced players in-game for you to duel. |
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GM Zerat
Game Masters C C P Alliance
11
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:17:00 -
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There is currently a blanket ban on can baiting in rookie systems, I just wanted to bring that up as many players make this mistake.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems Warning: Can Flipping in Rookie Systems is considered Griefing.
So if you are thinking about can baiting only older players in those systems, please do not. |
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Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:40:00 -
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The GM's have answered OP twice making it perfectly clear, if you still don't get it by now then goodbye and it was nice knowing you... |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
337
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:46:00 -
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SghnDubh wrote: Makes me want to add a tag to my killboards.
If you show up as the aggressor in a noob system, and the pilot has less than 6 months ingame, you'll get a bully badge. And it may not really be the kind of badge you want people to see.
Just thinking out loud, so to speak...
I would think a 'manipulator' tag might be more appropriate, given how easy it is to mess with your awesome killboards. |
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