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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:28:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 02/03/2009 04:28:11 I wont to run some setup on you guys if i can for some help.. all but one are my own thinking these setup are for stand up 1 vs 1 BS encounters, solo combat.. some nice setups for pirating would be nice as well..
pick the one of 3 setups i think would stand in a stand up BS fight as the best..
setup one: 7 navy cruise launchers 1 L 6k smart bomb. 1 dread xl booster, 2 kikka's amps, 1 navy inv, 1 pith c photon, 1 heavy sansha's cap booster. 1 navy bcs, 3 sansha's pd's, 1 dc t2.. rigs, 3 core ext's.. 3 L painters drones.
setup 2: 7 navy Cruise 1 6k sb.. 1 dread xl booster, 3 navy inv, 3 LSE t2. or take out one of the lse for a kikka's amp. 4 sansha's pd's, 1 dc t2. rigs, 3 core ext's 3 L painters drones.
setup 3: same as top but with torps & 3 navy bcs for a shotgun setup..
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:29:00 -
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I like it. Where would you use this setup though? On another topic, I finally removed that annoying sentence in my signature.
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 02/03/2009 04:32:25
Originally by: Spaztick I like it. Where would you use this setup though?
pvp solo bs vs bs and i would not always know what type of bs i would be up against i guess..
a good all round pvp setup on a challenge solo 1 vs 1
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:32:00 -
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I would like to supervise one of these 1 on 1's aswell, could you tell me where you will take this for a spin?
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 02/03/2009 04:39:14
Originally by: Grarr Dexx I would like to supervise one of these 1 on 1's aswell, could you tell me where you will take this for a spin?
i am not looking for a fight just some thinking on ravens as i find it real hard to fit them these days unlike the old days..
its a call out ship.. when you challenge someone to a duel. i know a lot of players dont do this these days but i still do!
i only train for my race tek so i get what i have to use.. i don't jump tek.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: OffBeaT Edited by: OffBeaT on 02/03/2009 04:39:14
Originally by: Grarr Dexx I would like to supervise one of these 1 on 1's aswell, could you tell me where you will take this for a spin?
i am not looking for a fight just some thinking on ravens as i find it real hard to fit them these days unlike the old days..
its a call out ship.. when you challenge someone to a duel. i know a lot of players dont do this these days but i still do!
i only train for my race tek so i get what i have to use.. i don't jump tek.
Alright bro, just send me a mail whenever you'd like to take those ravens for a spin, I'd be very interested in watching the battle!
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.03.02 04:44:00 -
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Likewise, I'd love to see it. On another topic, I finally removed that annoying sentence in my signature.
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:35:00 -
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I do believe all of Black Rise would love to see it. sXe |
Wideen
Warped Mining Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.03.02 05:55:00 -
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when is someone gonna point out the ridiculous amounts of isk he plans to invest in a simple raven? ________________________________________ "I robbed a goon and I liked it" - Suas |
OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N
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Posted - 2009.03.02 06:23:00 -
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i am gonna take this as a boss setup since known here can say a better one.. :)
you will be using it i am shore..
this is my best ship class and who in eve dont wont a top ship of there own.. i cant buy a dread or carrier but i can a 2bil BS witch is my best skilled for ship to fly..
the age of the bs is dead in eve i know but its the time i loved the best.. the solo bs..
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Gorefacer
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.03.02 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Wideen when is someone gonna point out the ridiculous amounts of isk he plans to invest in a simple raven?
I think they are all waiting for the KM first.
"You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus |
Giannamichaels
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:02:00 -
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EPIC fail detected, dont feed the trolls folks.
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GyokZoli
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.02 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: OffBeaT Edited by: OffBeaT on 02/03/2009 04:28:11 I wont to run some setup on you guys if i can for some help.. all but one are my own thinking these setup are for stand up 1 vs 1 BS encounters, solo combat.. some nice setups for pirating would be nice as well..
pick the one of 3 setups i think would stand in a stand up BS fight as the best..
setup one: 7 navy cruise launchers 1 L 6k smart bomb. 1 dread xl booster, 2 kikka's amps, 1 navy inv, 1 pith c photon, 1 heavy sansha's cap booster. 1 navy bcs, 3 sansha's pd's, 1 dc t2.. rigs, 3 core ext's.. 3 L painters drones.
setup 2: 7 navy Cruise 1 6k sb.. 1 dread xl booster, 3 navy inv, 3 LSE t2. or take out one of the lse for a kikka's amp. 4 sansha's pd's, 1 dc t2. rigs, 3 core ext's 3 L painters drones.
setup 3: same as top but with torps & 3 navy bcs for a shotgun setup..
OMG, never use faction/deadspace/officer modules in PvP unless you want to throw your money out of the window. BTW, you will be pirated if you try to fight 1vs1 anywhere with these setups.
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Stefan F
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.02 11:11:00 -
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Pvp? Where's the point? Or do you expect your falcon alt to carry one?
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.03.02 11:39:00 -
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Nothing wrong with pimping it out for PvP. But, you clearly need experience with regular Ravens first. You're also going to need torps to break anything before they break you.
For instance, you could go with something like:
[Raven, Active] Internal Force Field Array I Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Ogre II x3
1033 DPS 70K EHP 437/503 tank (634 overheated)
Obviously the tanking ability is somewhat compromised with tackling fitted, but leaving them out is not an option for solo. Now however, you can make up to some extent by using blue pills and crystals. If you have those, then this fit becomes much more viable.
Here's a passive alternative:
[Raven, Plain] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II
Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x3
1138 DPS 115K EHP 116 regen tank
Pretty straightforward. The problem here is the lack of EHP in comparison to common plate battleships which will have 130-160K ish even without slaves. So competing with them will rely on you doing enough more damage.
As you can see, Raven is somewhat disadvantaged for this purpose. Also, these fits didn't even feature a MWD which is often very important. Fitting one will further weaken the tank.
On the plus side, if you have a tackler, Raven can be very good. Or if you can use crystals and blue pills to make up for the lost slots. ----------------------
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.02 11:58:00 -
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Can I have the first duel? |
Poldarn Joaq
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.03.02 12:05:00 -
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Troll... ---------------
Thats no moon!!
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel
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Posted - 2009.03.03 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 03/03/2009 01:07:14
Originally by: Jin Entres Nothing wrong with pimping it out for PvP. But, you clearly need experience with regular Ravens first. You're also going to need torps to break anything before they break you.
For instance, you could go with something like:
[Raven, Active] Internal Force Field Array I Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Ogre II x3
1033 DPS 70K EHP 437/503 tank (634 overheated)
Obviously the tanking ability is somewhat compromised with tackling fitted, but leaving them out is not an option for solo. Now however, you can make up to some extent by using blue pills and crystals. If you have those, then this fit becomes much more viable.
Here's a passive alternative:
[Raven, Plain] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II
Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x3
1138 DPS 115K EHP 116 regen tank
Pretty straightforward. The problem here is the lack of EHP in comparison to common plate battleships which will have 130-160K ish even without slaves. So competing with them will rely on you doing enough more damage.
As you can see, Raven is somewhat disadvantaged for this purpose. Also, these fits didn't even feature a MWD which is often very important. Fitting one will further weaken the tank.
On the plus side, if you have a tackler, Raven can be very good. Or if you can use crystals and blue pills to make up for the lost slots.
nice setups.. i never thought about the drugs to try good idea.. just to make something plane to some i never said i would use these mods on a normal day out & yes i can afford to lose them if i wont to vs cost for a carrier or dread out there 1.5bil is nothing..
second other then these setups i have seen this guy post i haven't seen anything you people could post better.. the setups are tuff as they stand.. yea, navy ravens where selling for 250 at one time so yea with reg mods i shore did use them npcing or fighting.. i asked for help on this site because the raven setup i have seen posted are out dated or flat out suck!
yea, solo combat is my thing in eve and hats off to others who will do it.. its the old way!
its sad what they di to the raven vs what it use to be.. people just laff at it now.
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Petra Katell
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Posted - 2009.03.03 01:22:00 -
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Horrible setups. Siege Ravens w/o a MWD are total fail. Any cruise Raven is fail. Active tank Raven is fail.
So your setups fail on so many levels
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2009.03.03 01:44:00 -
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[Raven, Roaming] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Reactor Control Unit II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Large Proton Smartbomb I /OFFLINE Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
Carry Faction Torps, as well as some Rage if you'd really like.
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel
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Posted - 2009.03.03 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Petra Katell Horrible setups. Siege Ravens w/o a MWD are total fail. Any cruise Raven is fail. Active tank Raven is fail.
So your setups fail on so many levels
gotta better setup lets see it..
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