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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:09:00 -
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I was just looking at the Delve Dotlan Map and noticed that S-6HHN has now hit SOV 3 for KenZoku. (Unless this is a program glitch) I've read a lot of the forum posts about the tactic of BoB ala KenZoku has been to wait for SOV 3 to come back to their systems to really fight.
It appears it is about to happen
So the question that everyone has been wondering (even the Goons I'm sure) is how long before KenZoku will start staging out of their cyno jammed systems to take back Delve? If you look at their membership they have not lost many people and are above 3,200. Such a blow would have crushed most Alliances by now with people fleeing. But that didn't happen.
It appears they are waiting for something
I am not writing this not because I am a KenZoku follower: I am neutral with regards to 0.0 politics. But I really think there many people in Eve are are litterly holding their breath awaiting what will happen the day what remains of KenZoku's empire turns Sov 3.
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karttoon
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:11:00 -
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It's like Y2K all over again.
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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: karttoon It's like Y2K all over again.
I'm not saying KenZoku will take Delve back... I'm just saying that there are probably about to be a lot of great fights.
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Caius Proximus
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise wait for SOV 3 to come back to their systems to really fight.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back. --
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Panzerkom
Caldari The Polaris Axis United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:24:00 -
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That's a valid point.
But I don't know about Delve itself. If I were the Ken/BoB leadership, I'd probably consider taking the southeast -- you know, the whole hit your enemy where they least expect it thing.
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
You were the best of KenZoku, pure honor and 1v1 every day.
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Brobuck
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
Can I interest you in a wager on that? 500m isk says Delve is goons in July.
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Fraud Crawler
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
lord waratron why did you leave kenzoku :(
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Bran Stormer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:29:00 -
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Tron was a p. good movie imo
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Ayman Zawahiri
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
People have been saying similar things since it began and if it was within their capability they would have never allowed 1 trillion+ worth of isk in items/pos/locked assets to be destroyed. Unless they get certain "outside" help from non in game resources it's not likely to happen.
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Cayleu
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Cayleu on 05/03/2009 19:42:15 sov 3 in a bunch of station systems != sov 3 in a few scattered remnants of space. The war is almost over, we have long passed the point where sov 3 could have delayed the loss.
The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely.
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SavageBastard
Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:14:00 -
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Wait, takes back Delve? They never lost it. In fact today they got Sov 3, jammers are going up and the offensive is basically lost on our part. Kenny isn't waiting for anything. It's already happened. We had a good run at it but it simply wasn't enough. gg
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 20:26:21
Originally by: Fraud Crawler
Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
lord waratron why did you leave kenzoku :(
When kenzoku come to claim back their space, I do not plan spending hundreds of hours shooting POS like last time around. That and the Hedge titan theft incident where the guy got hounded into deleting his char over false accusations he was going to sell his Titan to Neutrals, when I now find out that we were secretly selling titans to neutrals all along. I am not a fan of hypocrisy, and have no plans to spend hundreds of hours shooting POS so more neutrals can get trophy Titans.
Like I said, Kenzoku have some of the best dedicaded players out there. Its not a question of "if" they get their space back, just "when". --
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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cayleu The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely.
What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night.
After reinforcement they could then go back to the least blobbed systems and destroy all POS's and then go on and put more system POS's into reinforcement. Goons can't cover all systems.. and KenZoku then have the advantage of deciding where to hit.
Then the Goons will have lost multiple billions of isk in POS's and mods.
It would be one of those ælong roads to haulÆ and not very likely.... but it could be done.
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Reapeat Offender
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:23:00 -
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They probably need to figure out a way to undock from PR- before they think about taking anything back.
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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Reapeat Offender They probably need to figure out a way to undock from PR- before they think about taking anything back.
There is that.
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Fahtim Meidires
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Cayleu The real question is can Kenny take back their space before we have sov 3? They have not really shown any evidence at all that this is likely.
What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night.
After reinforcement they could then go back to the least blobbed systems and destroy all POS's and then go on and put more system POS's into reinforcement. Goons can't cover all systems.. and KenZoku then have the advantage of deciding where to hit.
Then the Goons will have lost multiple billions of isk in POS's and mods.
It would be one of those ælong roads to haulÆ and not very likely.... but it could be done.
I mean, if we were able to do about 100 towers a week, they should have no problem...
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Jager Narses
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz VonHeise What if KenZoku just went system by system and just blew all your POS's to hell and back... not putting up any. With the number of Titans and caps they have they could probably do 3-5 systems a night.
They can't do that once we get sov 3. You're also forgetting about reinforced timers and the example we set in DG-. Every time they blew up a tower we put one back up. With all the moon mining in Delve GS will have plenty of money to replace any towers lost.
If they simply do nothing until everyone else leaves, then the moment they do try something everyone will come rushing back. If they actually manage to take back a station then everyone will just return to Delve to kick them out again.
KenGoku has proven that they can't win alone, and no one else seems to want to help them. How exactly are they supposed to get stronger while living in empire and lowsec?
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Holy Lowlander
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.03.05 20:58:00 -
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Well now the main reason of goonswarm's existance is kicked out of 0.0 , wouldn't membership in goonswarm drop again ? (like inactive people..)
They might be awaiting that in the safety of their comfy empire stations ?
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Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander Well now the main reason of goonswarm's existance is kicked out of 0.0 , wouldn't membership in goonswarm drop again ? (like inactive people..)
They might be awaiting that in the safety of their comfy empire stations ?
If that was the case we'd all re-sub to kick Kenny in the teeth again. So no, they're not getting Delve back, ever.
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Voculus
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.05 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
Jesus, you aren't even in the anime alliance, and you still can't get their stink off of you. It is impossible for bobbits, current or former, to get it through their thick heads that the game has changed, and they're way behind the curve.
You sound like Waagaa, making a failpost about GF and pas are gonna fail to take Delve. 0/2 _________________________________________________________
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Mikhail Glatinov
Caldari Eve Unity Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.05 21:13:00 -
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I do not think bob will be able to retake delve. I do believe how ever is the fact that they will get there SOV 3's they will but this does not mean that they can retake it will just prolong there inevitable collapse of the GBC and the end of this long and costly war.
IMHO thank god it is over we should try and destroy the new enemy in the south AAA
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Sir Molley
Amarr Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 22:16:29
Originally by: Sir Molley
Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction.
Not as amusing as the cries in local as the faction stuff blew up, or even the shock at a Disco fit Black Ops . --
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czStiguria
Caldari Rytiri Lva R.U.R.
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mikhail Glatinov and the end of this long and costly war
u are funny :) ... end of war :) ... lol
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 22:16:29
Originally by: Sir Molley
Originally by: Lord WarATron I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
You know fella I would of bought those command ships you suicided in pr-. Either way thank you for the turkey shoot it was an amusing distraction.
Not as amusing as the cries in local as the faction stuff blew up, or even the shock at a Disco fit Black Ops .
Congratulations on your new corp and alliance.
You still have a Kenny sig, by the way. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point |
Chairman Lmao
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:26:00 -
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I think we may have angered KenGoku FOR REAL this time. Any moment now we will be confronted by the wounded tiger that is the tiger before it was wounded.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: czStiguria
Originally by: Mikhail Glatinov and the end of this long and costly war
u are funny :) ... end of war :) ... lol
I know, there had to be a beginning to be an end. And since a beginning would mean Kenny had to have fought, well, look where that leaves us.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.05 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 05/03/2009 19:23:38 Kenzoku will get their space back eventually. Thing to remember is that they are a long term goal of a alliance. Its not really a question of "If", rather its a question of "When".
I for one, have no intrest in shooting thousands of POS's anymore, but there are no shortage of people who absolutly love doing so. I give it a couple of months before they end up with most of their space back.
Please be more specific, does "couple" mean 12, and "most" mean 1 constellation?
Hi, my name is Flinx, and I am a recovering nano***
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