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Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:40:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:No, any uploads you do will be credited to EMUU and when EVEMon is released to EVEMon.
Um this way i can never beat Scrappy BOB! :( Seriously it may look like a little detail, but uploading large data requires some setup skills and we really like these silly statistics. So considering that currently most market-data only comes from a few individuals, getting a little bit of credit is a big thing to us.
bye Andy |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:42:00 -
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The purpose of EMUU (and my intention of creating it) is for the community to support the market driven sites and not to promote e-peen (generally speaking and not targeting you). |
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:48:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:Using [echo "1";] on an open php script I wasn't able to reproduce your issue. Never the less though I 'm gonna add trimming code to prevent it from happening. But leaving your script open it produces an exception in my code.
Btw, can you leave your script open so I can see exactly what's going on? I don't leave the script open.
What i meant was that if i leave empty lines after the closing tag, the error occurs.
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Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:48:00 -
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Its not about e-peen, just some small "working" incentive to actually setup multiple upload accounts and run them for a decent amount of time. I mean i hate "achievements" on my xbox, but seems most other players love them for some reason. Also consider that those stats pages would not exist on those sites if there is no purpose to it, its a silly psychological thing :)
bye Andy |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:50:00 -
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Snarf Aldes wrote:Desmont McCallock wrote:Using [echo "1";] on an open php script I wasn't able to reproduce your issue. Never the less though I 'm gonna add trimming code to prevent it from happening. But leaving your script open it produces an exception in my code.
Btw, can you leave your script open so I can see exactly what's going on? I don't leave the script open. What i meant was that if i leave empty lines after the closing tag, the error occurs.
OK I will look at that, although I have added the trimming code but not yet released it. |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:23:00 -
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I finally managed to reproduce the issue Snarf. As you may know better than me, a page that contains PHP script still is an html page and any rows after the end of the script is interpreted as break lines.
Never the less trimming code works. But if you leave the script open (without adding the PHP end tag) the response is without break lines. |
Shingyoku
Griffin Capsuleers Ad-Astra
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Posted - 2012.05.14 22:30:00 -
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So does this mean the battleclinic price server has an endpoint I can add to evemarketeer's eve unified uploader? If so please share the URL and where I get my upload key so I can get my stuff going there too. |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:15:00 -
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Actually EMK uploader is not using UF. The name is confusing and it should be named "EVE Universal Uploader", as the intention of the author was to support all formats. EVE Marketeer and EVE Market Data are (atm) the only sites that doesn't support UF. |
Andy DelGardo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.27 16:34:00 -
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Is there some crashlog support or logfile somewhere to help debugging, since even the current 0.4 version keeps crashing after a few hours of usage? |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.05.27 16:55:00 -
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EMUU (in this form) will be discontinued as of June 10th (endpoints are going to be disabled). Currently you can get what you need from EVEMon 1.7.0 beta (available from the official EVEMon portal as "snapshot"). P.S. Not to mention that EVEMon 1.7.0 has more features than the EMUU. |
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.28 11:12:00 -
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Snarf Aldes wrote:hmm, i fixed it, but it is the weirdest bug i've ever seen.
After a successful upload i do: echo "1"; to indicate success. now, at the end of the script, i close php with ?> if there are any extra empty lines after that, it fails, if the ?> are the last characters of the script it works....
Does not make any sense to me. PHP suppress one empty line after closing tag. (I.e. "?>\n" will translate to empty string, but "?>\n\x20" -> is a space as it is.) This is a documented (although, questionable) behavior.
Do not close PHP code, if your file only contains PHP code. The closing tag is implied by PHP engine at EOF. Saves your head from such behavior. |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.06.03 06:47:00 -
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Update: EMUU has been discontinued and endpoints have been disabled. You can now find EMUU embedded in EVEMon (>= 1.7.x). |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2012.06.26 08:01:00 -
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Why does unified market uploader embedded in EVEMon delete cache files (from folder \cache\MachoNet\87.237.38.200\330\CachedMethodCalls)?
This approach has two disadvantages:
1. Other cache reading tools unable to work correctly together with EVEMon's uploader. 2. Violates EVE Online EULA which prohibits cache modification.
I think it's better to control cache file creation time as it is implemented in EVE Market Tools. So it's possible to skip already parsed market cache files and avoid performance loss.
Origin of the problem described here. EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:01:00 -
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1. EVEMon has an option to disable the built-in EMUU. I don't see a problem with that. 2. Deleting a file is not considered 'modification'. You have to reconsider your accusation. It's much like you saying that I can't delete (even manually) any file from EVE installation, which is simply untrue.
However you could use EVEMon to your advantage as it has a (atm) secret setting (which I intend to have it as an option in the next release) to point EMUU to a localhost endpoint, if your application has a built-in server as EveMeep has. If you are interested on knowing how to, please contact me. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:04:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:1. EVEMon has an option to disable the built-in EMUU. I don't see a problem with that. I have problem with EVEMon enabling that silently. When 1.7 was released I disabled that, but yesterday I noticed that EVEMon had silently enabled it again.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:12:00 -
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There is no way to silently enable it in the current release. If you are following EVEMon repo and built EVEMon yourself, that's another story. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:15:00 -
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I have only installed updates when EVEMon suggest to get one. I got one update after that 1.7 and I'm not sure if that is when EMUU was silently enabled since I noticed it just yesterday. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Desmont McCallock
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:22:00 -
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We have not released any update after 1.7.0, except if you are referring to the data files update to Inferno 1.0. Never the less, even updating the data files, EMUU can't be enabled silently. If you reset the settings, of course, then EMUU gets enabled (as this is the default). And before you get into accusing us for that, enabling it as default is not considered any violation. |
malaire
446
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:26:00 -
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I know I disabled it. I never reset settings. And when I checked Options yesterday it was enabled and I had to disable it again.
I know this happened no matter how many times you claim it is not possible. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Desmont McCallock
187
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Posted - 2012.06.26 09:31:00 -
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Again, you definitely intervened somehow. |
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Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2012.06.26 10:20:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:1. EVEMon has an option to disable the built-in EMUU. I don't see a problem with that. 2. Deleting a file is not considered 'modification'. You have to reconsider your accusation. It's much like you saying that I can't delete (even manually) any file from EVE installation, which is simply untrue.
Ok, let us leave EULA-related discussions and look at the problem as developers.
As you may know not only my tool uses cache reading. And designing your tool in way which eliminates possibility of simultaneous use of the resource (eve cache) is a bad practice. Especially when there are possible and easy solutions to avoid file deletion. Could you tell me the reason for such implementation in your tool?
Desmont McCallock wrote:However you could use EVEMon to your advantage as it has a (atm) secret setting (which I intend to have it as an option in the next release) to point EMUU to a localhost endpoint, if your application has a built-in server as EveMeep has. If you are interested on knowing how to, please contact me.
Thanks, it's interesting. But not right now, because EVE Mentat has no web-server inside yet. EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2012.06.26 10:22:00 -
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malaire wrote:I know I disabled it. I never reset settings. And when I checked Options yesterday it was enabled and I had to disable it again.
I know this happened no matter how many times you claim it is not possible. Maybe it's a problem related to User Account Control (UAC). EVEMon couldn't save settings modification due to system protection of folder where settings are located. EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.06.26 11:13:00 -
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Thart wrote:malaire wrote:I know I disabled it. I never reset settings. And when I checked Options yesterday it was enabled and I had to disable it again.
I know this happened no matter how many times you claim it is not possible. Maybe it's a problem related to User Account Control (UAC). EVEMon couldn't save settings modification due to system protection of folder where settings are located. I have disabled UAC. However EVEMon does crash too often, so maybe that can affect saving settings. I have reported this in official EVEMon forum months ago but I was ignored because I didn't give enough details (Even though I gave full description, log and error message.)
(Basically if I move mouse over EVEMon taskbar icon and click it BEFORE popup appears, there is good chance for EVEMon to hang up so that I need to use Task Manager to kill the process)
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Andy Tibs
Galactic Express
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Posted - 2012.06.27 15:28:00 -
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This may be a dumb question... but how do I use the Market Uploader in EVEMon? |
malaire
447
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Posted - 2012.06.28 07:09:00 -
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Andy Tibs wrote:This may be a dumb question... but how do I use the Market Uploader in EVEMon? Goto Tools -> Options -> Market Unified Uploader.
There you can enable it, and when enabled it will upload your market data to selected sites. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Andy Tibs
Galactic Express
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Posted - 2012.06.28 13:34:00 -
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malaire wrote:Andy Tibs wrote:This may be a dumb question... but how do I use the Market Uploader in EVEMon? Goto Tools -> Options -> Market Unified Uploader. There you can enable it, and when enabled it will upload your market data to selected sites.
So once it is enabled... it does the rest automatically? |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2012.07.02 07:52:00 -
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Desmont, I'm still waiting for answer... It's really interesting what were your motives to block normal work of another tools? EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Desmont McCallock
187
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Posted - 2012.07.02 10:09:00 -
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Thart wrote:Desmont, I'm still waiting for answer... It's really interesting what were your motives to block normal work of another tools? I develop having in mind the tool I develop (as any other developer does). |
Thart
U.K.R.A.I.N.E SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2012.07.02 11:30:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:Thart wrote:Desmont, I'm still waiting for answer... It's really interesting what were your motives to block normal work of another tools? I develop having in mind the tool I develop (as any other developer does). Hm, strange point of view on the development and community. However, are you going to fix this issue? EVE Mentat - true trade tool |
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.02 11:40:00 -
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Andy Tibs wrote:malaire wrote:Andy Tibs wrote:This may be a dumb question... but how do I use the Market Uploader in EVEMon? Goto Tools -> Options -> Market Unified Uploader. There you can enable it, and when enabled it will upload your market data to selected sites. So once it is enabled... it does the rest automatically? yes Creator of Eve Addicts |
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