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Col Arran
Crimson Raven Knights
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:33:00 -
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This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.
I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.
6. CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load. |
ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
619
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:35:00 -
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While I agree with the valid point, CRY SUM MOAR
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1049
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:37:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience.
I wanted to log into Jita to get some trading done in these times of trouble but guess what? I can't. I expect a resolution immediately, CCP had more than enough time to sufficiently reinforce the Jita node and they did not. Also I do not care if it is merely a political statement, for the lulz or whatever.
6. CONDUCT
A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Stated here plain and clear if the system is unable to accept new connections then I would say that is an unreasonable or disproportionately large load.
so you want ccp to ban people or otherwise prevent them from playing in jita so you can? you'd have to ban yourself too since you would then be contributing to the load The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
229
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:39:00 -
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Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Golar Crexis
the boltzmann experience Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:40:00 -
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Ohhh **** off.
If that comes accross as me not caring then fine. You are experiencing the Lag that some of us have to put up with anytime we try and have large scale fleet battles. If this really bothers you then encourage ccp to continue the war on lag. |
Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
3
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:41:00 -
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Just logged my trade alt on in Jita, no problems at all, you just have to be creative about what Try Again Later means... |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:41:00 -
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But CCP sold us on one world with no instances...
You just made jita an instance... and a lower one than it was yesterday.
Sounds like we need less fail pointless expansions and more fixing of your fail ass code. |
Golar Crexis
the boltzmann experience Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
24
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:44:00 -
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adam smash wrote:But CCP sold us on one world with no instances...
You just made jita an instance... and a lower one than it was yesterday.
Sounds like we need less fail pointless expansions and more fixing of your fail ass code.
Sounds like you need to htfu.
Seriously can't deal with lag of people dying and spamming each other? |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
415
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:44:00 -
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And the point of the Goons attacking Jita is just this. Carry on raging Cybil WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
gfldex
493
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:45:00 -
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My cat is sad too. When someone burns down your sandcasle, bring sausages. |
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silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:45:00 -
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Ah, the whiny cries of the self-entitled and self-important.
Who ever thought that CCP would be the ones driving the gears of the tear-machines?
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:46:00 -
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It's not the first time people haven't been able to log into Jita, it won't be the last. Just be grateful that the node it runs on is still up and working. There's 3 other major hubs, trade in them for a week until the load on Jita drops, the prices are generally better anyway.
@ the people who are in Jita, especially CFC+ friends and their opposition+ friends, keep it up folks, I'm making ISK hand over fist and you're doing a fine job of stress testing the hardware which I believe is some uber secret server tech from a major player in the server world.
Without people stressing the hardware CCP and the server makers would see no need to improve their product. Improved hardware is good for everybody, and it's especially good for the game in terms of future performance and the influx of new players/targets the media coverage will bring in.
Player run events like HulkaJitageddon are what makes Eve unique in the MMO world, nobody does it better because nobody else allows stuff like this. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:47:00 -
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Hey looksy here, market and spam bots are hurting now. JITA purge is in full swing, soon we will replace local population with goon and friends alts only. |
Zaxix
Gods of Freight The Toy Box
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:47:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. Does Jita still do loike in the old days and give me the option to be moved to another system? If not, why not? Red Frog--Hisec Courier Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:52:00 -
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I was smart and moved all my sell/buy orders from Jita earlier in the week to one of the other trade hubs. If you knew this was coming and did not make alternate plans you were flat out dumb or just looking for an excuse to cry like a little *****. |
Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:54:00 -
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I only look askance at this because it provides a loophole to get cargo out of Jita without actually risking an undock in Jita. Jump in your freighter, log out, log back in and accept relocation to a nearby system.
As for the OP, too bad you didn't train remote trading skills, sucker. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
779
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Posted - 2012.04.27 18:58:00 -
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No one user is placing a disproportionately large load on the system. The system is experiencing a high volume of equally shared and fair load.
Try misinterpreting another section of the EULA for your next post. This is fun. Here's your sign... |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:01:00 -
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What the heck did folks think would happen? Jita's always had a pop cap in place. Every once in a while on a weekend, the gates are shut.
Burn Jita is going to be renamed: "Wait in Sobeseki". |
Radelix Cisko
The Adjustment Team
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:01:00 -
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Go to perimeter and trade there. You will still have access to the Jita market. Logistics might be difficult tho.
Also if you havent heard Jita is a sh*t show right now. and for RP purposes it would be entirely understandable that the police would shut down access to area.
Would you whine to the police in your town that you can't get to a certain block when there is a riot there and they closed it off?
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:07:00 -
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OP's first mistake was logging off in Jita to begin with... ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |
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Hung TuLo
Universal Fleet Operations
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:10:00 -
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He's got to be trolling.
Not the brightest star in the sky. "In space all warriors are cold warriors" ----á General Chang-á Star Trek VI |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6319
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:26:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience. So? Go somewhere else and have your experience there. You accepted this situation when you agreed to the EULA.
adam smash wrote:But CCP sold us on one world with no instances... GǪand it doesn't have any. If it had instances, people would be able to go into Jita as much as they wanted. So the current situation proves beyond any doubt that the game isn't instanced. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Coldfire Trilogy
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Col Arran wrote:This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience. So? Go somewhere else and have your experience there. You accepted this situation when you agreed to the EULA. adam smash wrote:But CCP sold us on one world with no instances... GǪand it doesn't have any. If it had instances, people would be able to go into Jita as much as they wanted. So the current situation proves beyond any doubt that the game isn't instanced.
Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only ONE instance OF Jita. Not sure how you get instanced = as many of the same as you want. Its separate, cordoned off, limited in player population. An uninstanced world would allow limitless people into that one area, due to there not being any restriction blocking or "instancing" the area off from others. It may be one world, but eve is separated into systems each one being a small separate instance, hence the reason why someone in in a system adjacent cant hypothetically use sublightspeed to fly from one area to the other, it requires a warp, and a loading screen ... to a new instance. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:49:00 -
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Coldfire Trilogy wrote:Actually, the fact that there's a limited number of people allowed while one system over the restriction ceases to exist means it IS instanced...but, there is only one instance OF Jita. GǪwhich means it isn't instanced. Instancing happens when you duplicate a location to let more people be in it than the population cap (be it hardwired or dynamically load-balanced) would allow.
If only a single copy of a location exists, then it is not instanced. EVE does not support instancing GÇö it doesn't exist in the code. There is only one of every system; one of every grid; one of every location, no matter what. The reason we have the current situation is because there is no instancing: no copies of Jita can be made to allow more people to be in that system.
The day they start duplicating systems and give us a drop-down to let us select which version of the system we want to be in we can start to talk about instances. Until then, the fact remains: instancing does not exist in EVE. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
34
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:54:00 -
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Used car salesmen must love the OP.
The ability to read, does not imply the ability the comprehend.
Read those terms again, then please come back to us and tell us were you went wrong.
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Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
120
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Posted - 2012.04.27 19:59:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. This is good. I can see other businesses trying this.
"We took your money, so just keep trying to get in the game!" Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
573
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Posted - 2012.04.27 20:05:00 -
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ccp should fix the issue with the log in window. you have to restart the clinet and try again.... why? why can't you fix something so simple yet it effects 1000s of people a day?
is it just really old code? |
Jonah Gravenstein
221
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Posted - 2012.04.27 20:05:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. This is good. I can see other businesses trying this. "We took your money, so just keep trying to get in the game!"
3rd party facepalm
Jita isn't the only system in the game, if it was then you'd have a point, but it's not.
War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
573
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Posted - 2012.04.27 20:05:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Jita has a population cap in place to solve the very issue of server load. If you keep trying to log in you will eventually get there. This is good. I can see other businesses trying this. "We took your money, so just keep trying to get in the game!" /that is what other mmos do idiot. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1106
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Posted - 2012.04.27 20:17:00 -
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Col Arran wrote:This is unacceptable, I am not able to log into the Jita system because it is unable to accept new connections. This is 100% unacceptable and is affecting my experience. File a petition. I am sure that some friendly GM will be able to teleport you and your freighter right outside 4-4 to start you day. This thing is caused by nasty bug in jita specific space time code anyway.
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