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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.14 12:11:00 -
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The original 'Plan' that was posted in the old forums has been redone and added to the Evelopedia now. I hope it helps everyone as much as the old one did. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_PlanAny questions or comments pertaining to the 'Plan' can be posted in this thread. Good luck and much success to you all. DMC |
Kira Deschain
United Earth Directorate The Unforgiven Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.14 19:01:00 -
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Excellent! Thanks for posting this. After weeks of missions in Minmatar space the Amarr and Caldari empires really hate me! This guide will really come in handy. :) |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.14 20:06:00 -
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Thanks! This guide is really helpful.
+1 rep well earned I think. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
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Posted - 2011.09.14 21:41:00 -
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Forum From: DeMichael Crimson To: Loraine Gess INBOX Sorry you don't like me or my forum posts. I've decided not to post as much anymore and will probably end up leaving this game soon. Good luck to you.
Still waiting on you to leave. |
Substantia Nigra
ByaDuK
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Posted - 2011.09.14 23:32:00 -
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Loraine Gess wrote:Still waiting on you to leave.
I hope this is some sort of odd / sick joke or troll. But I'll bite anyways.
I find DMCs postings to be almost-universally helpful, accurate, and information-rich. I cannot say the same of many other forum posters, myself included.
I found the 'plan', the subject of this thread, to be a great help when I recently found myself heartily disliked by Amarr / Caldari but wanted to run their lvl4 epic arcs. Finding and following the 'plan' saved me weeks, if not months, of tedious lvl1 mission grinding.
Thanks for doing what you do DMC. I'll be sad if you leave the game, and will miss your helpful contributions.
Of course it'd be remiss of me to followup on any mention of leaving the game without .... Can I has your stuff?
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.15 08:50:00 -
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Offtopic posts removed.
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Veli ANDAC
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.15 10:42:00 -
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Dear DeMichael Crimson,
Firstly thank you that you made a great topic.
I am an Amarr Militia member at this moment, and my Gallente standing is -5,59 (with lvl4 diplomacy skill).
I want to switch Gallente Militia in a short time period, in this situation what is your suggestion to repair Gallente standing?
Do I need to drop militia first?
Thanks for your helping. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.15 11:39:00 -
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Veli ANDAC wrote:Dear DeMichael Crimson, Firstly thank you that you made a great topic. I am an Amarr Militia member at this moment, and my Gallente standing is -5,59 (with lvl4 diplomacy skill). I want to switch Gallente Militia in a short time period, in this situation what is your suggestion to repair Gallente standing? Do I need to drop militia first? Thanks for your helping.
Veli ANDAC,
You're welcome.
Yes, leave the Amarr Militia.
Diplomacy level 5 will help a lot if it doesn't take you too long to train it.
If your Gallente Faction standing of -5.59 is higher than your Minmatar Faction standing, then you'll have to do some regular missions (16 + Storyline) for a level 1 Gallente Agent located where you can travel safely, probably in Amarr, Ammatar or Caldari space. It shouldn't take you too long to raise it above -5.00 standing. After that you can enter Gallente space and work the 'Plan'. If your Minmatar Faction is already above -5.00 standing, then start working the 'Plan' with Minmatar.
Good luck to you and I hope this helps.
DMC
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Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.15 22:16:00 -
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Reposting my appreciation of 'the plan' on these new forums.
Not very long ago I was very unpopular with the amarr and caldari, and decided I wanted to run their lvl4 epic arcs. After about a week of very, very slow lvl1 mission grinding I discovered 'the plan'.
Adopting the approach outlined I made more inroads into my amarr standings in one session than I had the previous week. Now I have positive standings with all non-pirate factions, and I'm going to take great care to not let any of them bounce below -2 again.
Thanks DMC, 'the plan' was a fantastic discovery that saved me from interminable boring lvl1 missions and gave me a much greater understanding of faction-standings options.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.15 23:31:00 -
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Substantia Nigra,
Thanks for posting your story.
It's always good to hear how the 'Plan' has helped players. I hope you have continued good luck with it.
DMC
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Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 01:43:00 -
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Based on your experience, how would you suggest best fully bringing both Faction & NPC Corporate standings to the Gurista/Sansha/Blood Raider block to -10.00 (while avoiding any drastic swings involving other entities)?
Completing Missions in Amarr space? Amarr Epic arc? Belt ratting in low/null? Declining pirate faction L1's until -10.00 is accrued due to mission failure penalty?
At this point I've managed Faction: Guristas -10.00, Sansha -9.99, Blood Raiders -9.99. Unfortunately, npc corp standings while taking incurred -'s for ship kills still hover around +1.xx for their pirate faction corps.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.16 02:45:00 -
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Velarra,
I'm a bit confused. Are you asking how to get -10.00 Faction standing with Guristas, Sansha and Blood Raiders?
If so, just continue killing them in regular missions, explorations sites, etc. No need to do anything special. It will happen automatically.
Don't worry about the positive Pirate Corporation standings listed in your character sheet. Those can be helpful later in the future if you decide to work for Pirate Agents.
If you're asking how to repair or gain positive Pirate Faction standings, just work the section listed in the 'Plan' called - Pirate Standings.
Hope this answers your question.
DMC
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Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.09.16 02:55:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Velarra, I'm a bit confused. Are you asking how to get -10.00 Faction standing with Guristas, Sansha and Blood Raiders? Hope this answers your question. DMC
Yes, I'm actively aiming for (negative) -10.00 with the Guristas, Sansha and Blood Raiders both Faction & Corporate. I have absolutely zero desire to ever repair any of them. The Factional standings seem to have dropped nicely, if anything the NPC corporate standings seem to be taking quite a while in contrast.
Thank you for your insight!
-Velarra |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.16 03:30:00 -
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Velarra,
Thanks for clarifying.
As for getting -10.00 negative standings with the Pirate Corporations, failing level 1Pirate missions will accomplish that goal but it'll take quite a bit of time. It doesn't seem to be a constructive use of time to achieve that goal.
I'm not sure if the Pirate Corporate stations have NPC Convoys. If they do, this guide might help since attacking Convoys will incur negative standing hits towards the Corporation controlling the Convoy.
http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Attacking_Convoys
Good luck with your goal.
DMC
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Kaeoz
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:18:00 -
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Good to have this guide. Thanx |
george harries
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.09.27 21:08:00 -
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hi,
I have an Amarr alt which (after diplomacy 4) was left with -4.4 Minmatar standing (Gallenet is slightly worse), currently training Diplomacy to 5 btw. Problem is, I flew into Minmatar space and got the "bugger off in a few seconds or you die" message, so moved back to warp back to caldari space - I was targeted and shot at. Soooo from what I read as long as I am below -5 I can do the career agents to help raise standings.
Now if my Gallenete is above -5 is that affecting it or do I need to grind some lvl 1's in Amarr space to sort this out ??
Sorry for being thick but I must be missing something as I know the plan works |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.27 22:01:00 -
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Kaeoz, thanks for posting.
I hope the 'Plan' helps you as much as it's helped me.
george harries wrote:hi, I have an Amarr alt which (after diplomacy 4) was left with -4.4 Minmatar standing (Gallenet is slightly worse), currently training Diplomacy to 5 btw. Problem is, I flew into Minmatar space and got the "bugger off in a few seconds or you die" message, so moved back to warp back to caldari space - I was targeted and shot at. Soooo from what I read as long as I am below -5 I can do the career agents to help raise standings. Now if my Gallenete is above -5 is that affecting it or do I need to grind some lvl 1's in Amarr space to sort this out ?? Sorry for being thick but I must be missing something as I know the plan works
george harries,
there is definitely something wrong if you're being attacked by the Minmatar Faction NPC Navy with a standing of -4.40.
Your Gallente Faction standing won't affect travel in Minmatar space. You should be able to enter Minmatar space and work the 'Plan' without being attacked unless you belong to the Amarr or Caldari Militia doing Factional Warfare.
Since you don't belong to the Militia, you might wanna try this. Get a Rookie ship or shuttle and 'test the waters' by entering Minmatar space. As long as the Faction is above -5.00 standing, you should be able to travel safely. If you get attacked and see the message again, file a petition in-game.
I hope this helps
DMC
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Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.30 21:13:00 -
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Hey,
Finallly got around to using this plan.... though my aim is a little different........
I'm a little confused by something in the wiki:
After completing one round of Circle Agent missions, now work the level 1 Data Center 'Graduation Certificate' missions for the same specific Faction. After completing the 3rd 'Cert' mission, take one of the certs to the Agent listed on the certificate. That Agent will give you a multi part Storyline mission where you'll meet another Event Agent.
Data Centers
After completing those missions, turn in Pirate Tags to complete the rest of the Level 1 Data Center Agents. If you don't have the 'Tags' and haven't accepted the 'Tag' mission, you can decline it and return to the Agent later when ready. The easiest way of obtaining the required amount of Pirate Tags is to buy them from the Market or from public Contracts. Pirate Tags can also be found in the wrecks of Pirate NPC's killed at Asteroid Belts, 'Unknown' Cosmic Signature and Cosmic Anomaly combat sites.
Remember - Always get the required amount of Pirate Tags first before talking to these Agents.
I've just completed the circle missions, which to add a point, I seem to have picked up three sets of Faction standings, albeit small ones. I beleive I got 0.03, 0.05 and a 0.8 increase.
That aside, I am about to start the data centre missions, but I'm confused by the descriptive text above and am reluctant to start withour getting some clarity.
Can someone talk me through the first paragraph of the descriptive text? Will it be obvious which the 3rd cert is? Should I go a purchase all of the relevant tags ahead of all the missions? Are the missions to collect tags or are there missions AS WELL AS collecting tags? Can the tags be handed in immediately upon accepting the missions?
I ask these questions as it seems as though the plan is fairly sensative to being messed up...... and I really don't want to mess it up.
Regards
Barrak
*fake edit*
Have you thought about creating a chat channel where experienced and inexperienced people can gather to chat about missions? Might also relieve you of lots of PM's........ just a though.
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2011.10.30 21:50:00 -
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For the data center missions. There are three different sites in each faction's space. Inside these sites there are two different types of missions. Each data center has one courier mission that gives you a Graduation Certificate, which one is the third one depends on the order that you do them (since there are three sites each with one Cert mission), but it doesn't matter what order they're done in.
The other type of mission is the tag missions, where the agent asks you to bring X tags of a given type. It's recommended to have the tags beforehand since it could take months of ratting to get all the tags you need for all the missions. If you already have the tags, you just complete the mission 2 seconds after you accept it.
So, there is one 1-3j courier mission at each site and then tag missions from the rest of the agents there, no other types of missions. |
Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
3
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Posted - 2011.10.30 22:09:00 -
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mxzf wrote:For the data center missions. There are three different sites in each faction's space. Inside these sites there are two different types of missions. Each data center has one courier mission that gives you a Graduation Certificate, which one is the third one depends on the order that you do them (since there are three sites each with one Cert mission), but it doesn't matter what order they're done in.
The other type of mission is the tag missions, where the agent asks you to bring X tags of a given type. It's recommended to have the tags beforehand since it could take months of ratting to get all the tags you need for all the missions. If you already have the tags, you just complete the mission 2 seconds after you accept it.
So, there is one 1-3j courier mission at each site and then tag missions from the rest of the agents there, no other types of missions.
Thanks. Though after accepting the first graduation mission (go get get document) I got sent to another agent that has given me a 5 part mission. Is this correct and am I following this correctly?
Will the send me. Back to t data agent at the end of the five part mission?
Regards
Barrack
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.31 07:06:00 -
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Barrak,
mxzf (Thanks for the help ) is correct. The info he posted should be listed on the Evelopedia Data Center page.
It doesn't really matter if you go see the agent listed on the 'Cert' after completing the first Data Center 'Cert' mission. The reasons I said to complete all 3 'Cert' missions (1 at each Data Center) before doing that is:
1) The 3 'Cert' missions can be completed rather quickly to gain some quick Faction standing increase before seeing the agent listed on the 'Cert'.
2) The agent listed on the 'Cert' will give a 5 part mission series and while doing that mission series, will meet another Event Agent that gives a 3 part mission series. The 3 part mission series needs to be completed before the 5 part mission series can be completed. These 2 mission series will take some time to complete compared to the other missions.
3) Players might forget about the other 2 Data Center 'Cert' missions after completing missions for the agent listed on the 'Cert'. Also that specific agent is listed on all 3 'Certs' and will only offer the 5 part mission series once.
I created this thread for questions pertaining to the 'Plan' so that everyone can have access to the info. The idea of creating a chat channel for the 'Plan' is good but not really feasible due to the possibility of certain questions being asked multiple times and more than likely the channel itself would probably not be very active for long lengths of time.
Anyway, I hope your questions have been answered and everything clarified. Good luck and much success to you.
DMC
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Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:08:00 -
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Answered perfectly, thanks.... both of you!
Regards
Barrak |
Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.31 20:50:00 -
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Having problems with 'snatching the sharman', which is the storyline mission in the 5 part mission.
WHen trying to capture hte other chap, he does not appear in his cargo when you blow him up!!!
Any ideas anyone?
Regards
Barrak
*EDIT*
Run this mission 6 times now and its still not working.
x12
I've read that the mission can be declined, but i have already accepted it. So I really dont want to fail it. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2011.11.01 11:38:00 -
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Ahhh, I always liked that mission series. Took me a long time to find the key.
For Snatching the Shaman, destroy the Blasted Neon Sign to get Logut's key from a cargo container, then use the acceleration gate. Find Dari Akell and collect her from the wreckage. Use the acceleration gate to warp back, and speak with Logut's Abode to exchange Dari Akell for Logut Akell. Deliver Logut to Pinala Adala.
Someone had posted a little trick concerning that mission series. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1263174&page=9#265
Since you've already accepted the mission, I guess the trick won't help.
If Dari Akell isn't in the wreckage or container, might have to file a petition in-game, F12 key (Eve Help), character stuck - mission in progress.
Hope this helps,
DMC
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Barrak
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.01 22:24:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Ahhh, I always liked that mission series. Took me a long time to find the key. For Snatching the Shaman, destroy the Blasted Neon Sign to get Logut's key from a cargo container, then use the acceleration gate. Find Dari Akell and collect her from the wreckage. Use the acceleration gate to warp back, and speak with Logut's Abode to exchange Dari Akell for Logut Akell. Deliver Logut to Pinala Adala. Someone had posted a little trick concerning that mission series. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1263174&page=9#265Since you've already accepted the mission, I guess the trick won't help. If Dari Akell isn't in the wreckage or container, might have to file a petition in-game, F12 key (Eve Help), character stuck - mission in progress. Hope this helps, DMC
Doh......... for some reason I had turned my 'wrecks' off. God knows anyone following me into this misson over the last few days would have seen tons and tons of corpses :( |
Kikusama
Parabellum Diligentia
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Posted - 2011.11.02 01:54:00 -
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Great guide, thank you!
Now there's a problem I'm having with Scribd on the Caldari Cosmos Guide, it won't load the third page no matter what PC/browser/whatever I use. It's frustrating, is that the only place the file is hosted? It's about this link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/16401872/Cosmos-Missions-101
It's not new (the problem), happened before, thought it was my PC, it's not (it would seem).
Can anyone upload that file someplace else? Thank you. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2011.11.02 07:27:00 -
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Kikusama, you're welcome.
Hope the 'Plan' is helping.
That Caldari Cosmos guide works on my internet browser - Firefox.
There's another Cosmos guide I usually check which is http://www.hb3.info/cosmos/ It needs to be translated but it covers most of the agents for all 4 major Factions.
DMC
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Kikusama
Parabellum Diligentia
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Posted - 2011.11.02 09:50:00 -
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Using Firefox as well. Tested on Chrome and it seems to work now, although yesterday it didn't work in any of the browsers I tested oO
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2011.11.02 16:18:00 -
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Must have been a glitch or just a bad day for browsers.
At least it's working now.
Anyway, good luck to you.
DMC
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Shik Koken
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.27 02:49:00 -
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Here's a twist to the Faction Standing Plan.
I'm brand new to Eve Online (all standings are currently either neutral or good) and want to keep all four major factions positive... way positive. Planning ahead, I'm thinking of getting all four above 6.0 which is required for level 4 missions. The goal is that no matter where my Eve career takes me in Empire space, I can quickly run a mission or two.
Questions are:
Is it possible to get all our major standings above 6.0? Assume that I'll never accept a mission against another major faction.
If yes, what parts of the plan should I complete to accomplish this goal?
Thanks! |
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