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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.12 20:14:00 -
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I lol'd.
Linkage Stop, hammer time. |
mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.12 20:21:00 -
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no its not gellente its caldari accept the drones haven't gone rogue yet
"Boo hoo. Cry some more." - DEV CCP Whisper |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.12 21:13:00 -
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I don't know, they kinda look like the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin
Unmanned Ariel Reconnaissance
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I don't know, they kinda look like the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin
Unmanned Ariel Reconnaissance
That is almost uncanny.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Imperium Forces
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I don't know, they kinda look like the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin
Unmanned Ariel Reconnaissance
That is almost uncanny.
Slade
That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.03.13 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Gallenteans resemble the USA the most? I suppose the Caldari resemble Zimbabwe the most then.
I suppose the Patriot Act is really something the Gallenteans would introduce, knowing how they love personal freedom.
You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.03.13 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 13/03/2009 04:37:09 The US air force has been dangling hellfires off the predator UAVs for a while now, at least since the opening of the Afghanistan conflict.
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Gallenteans resemble the USA the most? I suppose the Caldari resemble Zimbabwe the most then.
I suppose the Patriot Act is really something the Gallenteans would introduce, knowing how they love personal freedom.
You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country.
Doesn't really need to turn into a political flame and bull**** thread tbh. |
Atama Cardel
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.13 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I don't know, they kinda look like the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin
Unmanned Ariel Reconnaissance
That is almost uncanny.
Slade
That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
But... but... they're french*
*disclaimer: I have no ill feelings toward the french, just poking fun |
Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.13 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Gallenteans resemble the USA the most? I suppose the Caldari resemble Zimbabwe the most then.
I suppose the Patriot Act is really something the Gallenteans would introduce, knowing how they love personal freedom.
You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country.
This guy is obsessed with 3 countries, USA, UK and Zimbabwe,
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fuze
Gallente Chosen Path Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.03.13 13:27:00 -
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Eve has drones that can fire ze missiles?
Bet ya that US drones did come back after being recalled. |
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.13 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country.
Point of fact: the primary design references for the Caldari were Japan and Finland.
The Gallente and the USA actually do share a LOT of cultural similarities - glorification of personal liberty, a strong celebrity culture, a massive entertainment industry and an arrogant streak.
so, I'm afraid you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Fyrewyre
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Posted - 2009.03.13 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Super Whopper You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country.
Point of fact: the primary design references for the Caldari were Japan and Finland.
The Gallente and the USA actually do share a LOT of cultural similarities - glorification of personal liberty, a strong celebrity culture, a massive entertainment industry and an arrogant streak.
so, I'm afraid you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.
Hahahahahaa OWNED -------------------------------------------
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.03.13 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher so, I'm afraid you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.
So true, that's why the Gallenteans (who according to CCP are based on the French) are ruled by mega corporations while the Caldari (USA) are a democratic state.
Who didn't read the description of the races again? Seems it was me, I didn't know France was in the USA, how stupid of me.
Quote: Hahahahahaa OWNED
I really got owned here. Realising that France is the USA, the USA France, France being in the USA or the USA in France or whatever combination you prefer really slapped me so hard in the face that I nearly fell off my chair. How many times have you stared at the character creation screen and missed the text where it says that the Gallenteans are FRENCH descendants?
Obviously neither of you have been to Japan. Japan is more of a democratic and free society than the USA, don't let simple facts knock you out as you embarrass yourself. But maybe you guys are right, maybe Japan is ruled by Halliburton or other corporate lobbies.
AmIpoastinrite?
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.03.13 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher The Gallente and the USA actually do share a LOT of cultural similarities - glorification of personal liberty
I forgot the Patriot Act was meant to strengthen personal liberties. So, when are you going to Guantanamo to preserve your 'personal liberties'?
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Bullageddon
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.13 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Gallenteans resemble the USA the most? I suppose the Caldari resemble Zimbabwe the most then.
I suppose the Patriot Act is really something the Gallenteans would introduce, knowing how they love personal freedom.
You either know very little about EVE, are ignorant (intentionally) in regards to the true nature of the USA (whom the Caldari are based on) or just hope that by choosing Gallente the USA, all of a sudden, becomes a free and democratic country.
fail x 2
Caldari are not based on the US. A corporate meritocracy based upon the needs of the whole over the needs of the individual? Gee, what large rice eating, gold farming country does that remind you of?
Gallenteans are a direct democracy based society, which means they are based on... wait for it... wait for it... Switzerland.
Good lord, I thought your WoW post was bad.
Stay away from politics until you know about politics. /in before "i'm a poly sci major at joe joe community college!"
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rValdez5987
Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2009.03.13 18:30:00 -
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Ok heres how ive always understood the races. my understanding is not guarenteed to be correct or even close.
Gallente: French, European, Some ex USA Emphasis is on personal freedom (most civilized nations) and democracy (most civilized nations)
Caldari: Japan, Asia, Some ex USA Emphasis is on capitalism (USA and Japan) and doing your duty (Japan)
Amarr: Islamic nations, Asia, Small portion of ex USA Emphasis is on religion (Islamic/christian nations) and Imperial rule (Ex-Japan, Asia, Islamic nations)
Minmatarr: Islamic nations, Africans, Asians, Small portion of ex USA Emphasis is on being a republic, freedom (obvious)
Basically here is what your all forgetting. The USA has always been a BLEND OF CULTURES, as such the USA's culture is seen in all four races in varying degrees. |
Random Thug
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:55:00 -
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Al-Qaeda is weak to Explosive/Therm
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 13/03/2009 20:20:24
Originally by: Super Whopper So true, that's why the Gallenteans (who according to CCP are based on the French) are ruled by mega corporations while the Caldari (USA) are a democratic state.
Uh, I think you read the lore incorrectly Super Whopper, the Caldari are ruled by the corporations and the Gallente are the democractic federation. (If that's the correct term)
Edit: I can't spell for ****.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 13/03/2009 20:33:23 This thread had potential, but got hit by a mac truck being driven by stupid.
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Aricaan
Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Random Thug
Al-Qaeda is weak to Explosive/Therm
ISK rules everything around me. |
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Random Thug
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Random Thug on 13/03/2009 23:30:09 Euros lecturing Americans on personal liberties is like Al Gore showing up in an 8 car motorcade to discuss global warming.
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Glamaz Cruciatia
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:48:00 -
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I thought the connection was because gallente mainly use drones and US was using a drone..
/shrugs
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.03.14 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I don't know, they kinda look like the hobgoblin
Hobgoblin
Unmanned Ariel Reconnaissance
That is almost uncanny.
Slade
That is the reason i picked gallente (they reminded me of America the most)
Funny, I picked it 'cause it reminded me of France, the Amarr Empire is that way.
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Thuranni
B and D
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Thuranni on 15/03/2009 15:22:44 Edited by: Thuranni on 15/03/2009 15:21:21 Edited by: Thuranni on 15/03/2009 15:21:07
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Stitcher so, I'm afraid you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.
So true, that's why the Gallenteans (who according to CCP are based on the French) are ruled by mega corporations while the Caldari (USA) are a democratic state.
Who didn't read the description of the races again? Seems it was me, I didn't know France was in the USA, how stupid of me.
Quote: Hahahahahaa OWNED
I really got owned here. Realising that France is the USA, the USA France, France being in the USA or the USA in France or whatever combination you prefer really slapped me so hard in the face that I nearly fell off my chair. How many times have you stared at the character creation screen and missed the text where it says that the Gallenteans are FRENCH descendants?
Obviously neither of you have been to Japan. Japan is more of a democratic and free society than the USA, don't let simple facts knock you out as you embarrass yourself. But maybe you guys are right, maybe Japan is ruled by Halliburton or other corporate lobbies.
AmIpoastinrite?
You're actually both wrong.
The Caldari are based on the corporate capitalism facet of western culture, and their language seems to be based on Finnish and Japanese, mostly. You can think of them as the "bad" westerners.
The Gallente are based on the liberal and democratic aspects of western culture, as well as the arrogance and meddling; Their language seems to be based on French. You can think of them as the "good" westerners.
The Minmatar seem to be based on the various cultures and peoples that have been repressed throughout the ages; Africans, native Australians, and in particular Icelanders (Where CCP hails from. Icelanders were largely oppressed by the Danish until early modern times) - Their name even seems to be a morphing of the Icelandic word "Minnimßttar", meaning repressed or underdog. Their language seems to be based on the Norse languages.
The Amarr seem to be based off the old British empire (slavery, monarchy, expansionism), the theocratic states of the middle east, and the catholic and orthodox Christian churches. Their language seems to be based on middle eastern languages.
It is naive to believe that any race is based exclusively off any single real life nation - One of CCP's lead designers even stated in the Art of EVE book that the various races were not based off any one real life culture or nation, but amalgamation of many.
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xHazzarDx
Roevhuller i Rummet
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Posted - 2009.03.15 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: xHazzarDx on 15/03/2009 19:39:23
Originally by: Thuranni
The Minmatar seem to be based on the various cultures and peoples that have been repressed throughout the ages; Africans, native Australians, and in particular Icelanders (Where CCP hails from. Icelanders were largely oppressed by the Danish until early modern times) - Their name even seems to be a morphing of the Icelandic word "Minnimßttar", meaning repressed or underdog. Their language seems to be based on the Norse languages.
Thats what i always thought, minmatar are vikings in space ^^
E: confirming Al-Qaeda is weak vs therm/explosive. tip, they deal mostly explosive damage, and use small smartbombs at times..
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Gangus
Minmatar Matari BackBone Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2009.03.16 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: xHazzarDx
Al-Qaeda [...] use small smartbombs at times..
I'd call any explosive you strap to your body a "not-so-smart bomb" personally
Gangus Official Corp Idiot and Booster Tester (one day I'll use them in-game) Matari BackBone [MBB]
Never mess with a guy in an ugly ship. He's bitter and has nothing to lose. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.16 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 16/03/2009 01:50:23
Originally by: Gangus
Originally by: xHazzarDx
Al-Qaeda [...] use small smartbombs at times..
I'd call any explosive you strap to your body a "not-so-smart bomb" personally
Gangus Official Corp Idiot and Booster Tester (one day I'll use them in-game) Matari BackBone [MBB]
It is kinda funny that the smartbomb is the least guided weapon in EVE.
As for Caldari based on X, Gallente based on Y...
Originally by: The Art of EVE, pg 38, 2nd paragraph For the Caldari, we studied Japan, Germany and, for some reason, Finland. For the Gallente, we studed French democracy combined with American consumerism, but we tended to look at the darker side of history when thinking about the races...
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Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.16 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 ...Basically here is what your all forgetting. The USA has always been a BLEND OF CULTURES...
And we have a winner!
As a wise man once said: "We Americans don't think we're better than everybody else. We ARE everybody else!"
American mutt and proud of it.
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Random Thug
Al-Qaeda is weak to Explosive/Therm
I ****ing lol'ed.
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Azirapheal
Amarr Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Random Thug
Al-Qaeda is weak to Explosive/Therm
+10
in all seriousness, its a game set in the future, idiots will always try and draw real life parallells to societies that span thousands of habitable star systems across a galaxy far far away.
there ARE references to real life society within this fantastical game, purely because the game designers still live in this our real world and draw their ideas from various aspects of it.
the amarr are based on any highly organised and power centric religious society. what springs to mind is not the "muslim states" but middle ages european vatican. you have one emperor (the pope) people are killing eachother to become the next poperor, a vast empire - it is all LOOSELY based on the WAY (not not replicating) the "christian empire" acted around the time of the crusades etc
can you think of real life societies that value duty, honour, and megacorps? theres huge facets of various civilisations and powers in their. the reliance on technology and the power of corporations... i think stems from the modern day US, references to duty etc take strong hints from the far east etc
the minmatar are rebels, with hatred for the amarr their former masters. i can liken the behaviour of these two empires to the crusade period of our world but i do not believe the link is strong enough (besides, saladin didnt have duck-tape) if anything i would draw some parallells between ghenkis khans mongol horde and the matar, think about it.
and the gallente, well the game designers say there is alot of french in them. right down to the name... it only really seems to sound right with a slight french accent but asides from that, anyone stop and think. weve got rebel hordes, a monotheistic slaver empire and a corporate war machine. what we need is someone to side with the rebel hordes, promoting liberte egalite and some other 'te. this is an obvious conterbalance that again draws references from across the entire real world. quafe etc - coca cola... very american reference and proof that IT IS NOT SPECIFIC. slavish devotion to the ideas of liberty and equality. the gallente are also very swinging 60's england in this sense and their organic styles are a complete change from golden hull, electronic death machine and scrapheap challenge, with alot of the designs being organic enough to bring the actual nature of planet earth into play. something universal to us all...
just to re-iterate. NO RACE IS SPECIFICALLY BASED OFF ONE REAL LIFE NATION OR WAY OF LIFE
it is a game, thousands of years in the future. in a fantasy setting. that has many mixed parallells with our world.
jesus. just look at the new bloodlines for your hint of asian in everything (achura, khanid etc...)
Azi
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