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Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:52:00 -
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cuoredipietra famedoro wrote:It is not the possession of ISK that drives me, rather the satisfaction of discovering new ways of doing something and doing it good.
If you look it this way, making ISK is just part of a process and a measure of your progression.
I wonder how many MD fellows share the same feeling.
I share this exactly. I've been playing video games for the past 18+ years now. I've done my fair share of PvP back in Quake/Counter-Strike/etc. The Eve market is something new an exciting to me. Every week I learn something new that makes me think differently about my world. |
Rhivre
TarNec
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:22:00 -
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I am meh about isk....I just enjoy chatting while flipping stuff on the market.
Whether it is for 100 isk, or 100m isk makes little difference, as long as my wallet moves in the up direction every day it doesnt matter.
I think most people in eve are interested in making isk, otherwise you would not see "WTF, my income from (insert activity) just got cut"
Why dont I do other more profitable stuff? Because I find it boring. I would not do missions or incursions even if the income was 10bn an hour.
I do not do pvp because I am not able to anymore, I have never got into mining or industry properly, but the one thing I really love doing in eve is providing items on the market, and moving the prices so that manufacturers can sell to buy orders without them being ripped off too much.
I probably have less isk across my traders than most mission runners have after 6 months, but then, wtf would I spend it on? |
Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:56:00 -
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As a counterpoint to those saying eve is not like real life, I actually find it is from a manufacturing and supply chain point of view. For instance: I build fuel blocks in jita. I need to determine build order size as well as what combination of 4 types of blocks I need. In real life this is BUS 280 Supply Chain management.
Basically I am taking raw materials, which i have acquired in the quantities I need in accordance with LEAN production standard, only a day or two before I actually need them. I then produce them with my magical factory minions who have 0 standard deviation in production time and then sell those blocks. If I did my forecasting right I should sell the blocks in the planned 2 day period. If I do it right a blocks time in the system is about 5 days. If I do it wrong it could be as much as having inventory or cash for 5 days after the blocks go on the market. That means a block is in the system for 6 - 8 days which is a loss of 20 - 60% in possible profits.
GO LEAN Privateer Alliance, rebuilding a not so safe High Sec.-á
Want to assist in this endevor? (contract wars, corp/pilot recrutment) Contact one of our directors. |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:34:00 -
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Why do people keep score in any games ?
Many ISK accumulators set other goals for themselves beyond the total value (i.e rate of return, month over month personal bests, isk per hour earned trading )
Still, while not the only goal, we all like seeing a "score" in many games.. cards or pinball or whatever.
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Realityfirst
Hemorrhagic Visions R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 02:59:00 -
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I trade in EVE because I like trading but Im not sure, enough, of my self to spend RL money on RL trading |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.05.01 05:35:00 -
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Realityfirst wrote:I trade in EVE because I like trading but Im not sure, enough, of my self to spend RL money on RL trading
You took the right decision, the majority of traders consistently lose. Risking game money is way less stressful losing game money is less depressing than in RL.
Moreover, most EvE traders are 0.01 ISK traders or regional arbitrators. Both of the corresponding RL trading strategies (scalping and arbitraging) have been heavily neutered by high frequency trading super computers. You'd be in a world of hurt trying that in RL. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Tri Yson
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:24:00 -
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Because eve markets are interestingly complex for a video game, but a far cry from open markets in the real world. |
Tri Yson
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:30:00 -
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Realityfirst wrote:I trade in EVE because I like trading but Im not sure, enough, of my self to spend RL money on RL trading Paper trade then. Go hit up one of the forex bucketshops, and download MT4 and have a play. No dough, no risk.
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Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.05.02 09:18:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:Why are Eve traders so obsessed with making ISK when you can put the same effort into studying RL markets and make real life dollars? Not quite true. RL markets are far, far more complex, for starters. Also, for RL economies, it's borderline impossible to accurately predict some future conditions which will affect them, whereas in EVE, you have devblogs and SiSi to tell you almost exactly that. And finally, because acquiring a significant "seed capital" in EVE is trivial, and the consequences of its total loss are minimal, but in RL it's pretty hard to get the capital and losing it all would be horrible. IRL, give me some obligations-free cash and a way to predict some types of events that will happen in the near future, and I'll totally switch my RL job to a RL trader !
EVE = easy gratification for RL failures who are too "sophisticated" to feel gratified from wow type mechanics. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.05.02 09:22:00 -
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Tri Yson wrote:Realityfirst wrote:I trade in EVE because I like trading but Im not sure, enough, of my self to spend RL money on RL trading Paper trade then. Go hit up one of the forex bucketshops, and download MT4 and have a play. No dough, no risk.
You'll never know if they are feeding you a bogus feed that gives you a wrong impression that you can make money. I compared multiple feeds from multiple FOREX brokers and the spreads were all over the place. |
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