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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:59:00 -
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During yesterday, a communication was recieved from an Amarrian pilot going by the name of Mijstor Jedann. In which he expressed an exhuberant interest with the inner workings of Blazing Dawn and it's activities in the Lonetrek region. With that the information was dessimated down the ranks of BD. Needless to say tempers have be friad and new rulings passed. Read more here
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 17:59:00 -
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During yesterday, a communication was recieved from an Amarrian pilot going by the name of Mijstor Jedann. In which he expressed an exhuberant interest with the inner workings of Blazing Dawn and it's activities in the Lonetrek region. With that the information was dessimated down the ranks of BD. Needless to say tempers have be friad and new rulings passed. Read more here
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:20:00 -
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Quote: We will no longer be accepting any members of any other race, if they condone the act of slavery, or openly support this vile trade.
I congratulate you on your realisation of this wider issue in your policy. It is not just the Amarr that are the sole perpetuates of slavery, though they make up the majority by a long way.
I for one take this motion as good news and wish you the best in your enforcement of this policy. ------
Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at |
Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:20:00 -
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Quote: We will no longer be accepting any members of any other race, if they condone the act of slavery, or openly support this vile trade.
I congratulate you on your realisation of this wider issue in your policy. It is not just the Amarr that are the sole perpetuates of slavery, though they make up the majority by a long way.
I for one take this motion as good news and wish you the best in your enforcement of this policy. ------
Analysis[Ceasefire]....Complete - 'Term given to the act of firing, causing the ceasation of the life it is directed at |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:39:00 -
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Gaven groans in disgust
Yet more unenlightened fools who do not understand the purpose of the institution of slavery.
Gaven shrugs
No matter.
You will eventually find that your meaningless existance will cease and that you will regret haveing taken a stance against Gods people.
Until that date have fun opposing Gods people and Gods will and forget the eventual cost of your actions.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:39:00 -
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Gaven groans in disgust
Yet more unenlightened fools who do not understand the purpose of the institution of slavery.
Gaven shrugs
No matter.
You will eventually find that your meaningless existance will cease and that you will regret haveing taken a stance against Gods people.
Until that date have fun opposing Gods people and Gods will and forget the eventual cost of your actions.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |
Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:36:00 -
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Not to be too off-topic, but...
It would seem that this debate (an inaccurate term for it) makes it's way into each and every discussion made in this entire section of the GalNet.
I thik I can boil it all down to terms that will allow us to continue without the constant bickering.....
The Loyalist Amarrians will hunt down terrorists to the death. The Mataari 'freedom fighters' will hunt the Amarrian Slavers to the death.
I think we can all agree on those terms..that said, feel free to continue this silly discussion unhindered.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:36:00 -
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Not to be too off-topic, but...
It would seem that this debate (an inaccurate term for it) makes it's way into each and every discussion made in this entire section of the GalNet.
I thik I can boil it all down to terms that will allow us to continue without the constant bickering.....
The Loyalist Amarrians will hunt down terrorists to the death. The Mataari 'freedom fighters' will hunt the Amarrian Slavers to the death.
I think we can all agree on those terms..that said, feel free to continue this silly discussion unhindered.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Not to be too off-topic, but...
It would seem that this debate (an inaccurate term for it) makes it's way into each and every discussion made in this entire section of the GalNet.
that said, feel free to continue this silly discussion unhindered.
So am I to say that our support for the Minmatar Republic in regards to the fight AGAINST slavery is a silly discussion. Please note that this announcement was not a silly discussion but the ability for us in Blazing Dawn to make contact not only with the Minmatar forces, but also to get the 'Slaves we have liberated' back to their homeland with the people they deserve to be with.
I have to say this that the majority of Amarrians live upto their name as selfish, underpinned, miserable fools, who think so highly of themselves as to slam the work of anyone person/corporation if it is not entirly in line with their holyier than thow attitude. --------------------------------- No Slugs were harmed in the creation of this signature --------------------------------- |
Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Not to be too off-topic, but...
It would seem that this debate (an inaccurate term for it) makes it's way into each and every discussion made in this entire section of the GalNet.
that said, feel free to continue this silly discussion unhindered.
So am I to say that our support for the Minmatar Republic in regards to the fight AGAINST slavery is a silly discussion. Please note that this announcement was not a silly discussion but the ability for us in Blazing Dawn to make contact not only with the Minmatar forces, but also to get the 'Slaves we have liberated' back to their homeland with the people they deserve to be with.
I have to say this that the majority of Amarrians live upto their name as selfish, underpinned, miserable fools, who think so highly of themselves as to slam the work of anyone person/corporation if it is not entirly in line with their holyier than thow attitude. --------------------------------- No Slugs were harmed in the creation of this signature --------------------------------- |
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:58:00 -
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Funny, I made that statement to hopefully keep the whole "MINNIES/AMARR ARE SCUMM!!111" element out of this thread.....
*shrugs* Such a concept is obviously not possible.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
Graelyn
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:58:00 -
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Funny, I made that statement to hopefully keep the whole "MINNIES/AMARR ARE SCUMM!!111" element out of this thread.....
*shrugs* Such a concept is obviously not possible.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |
Lise Cantara
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Funny, I made that statement to hopefully keep the whole "MINNIES/AMARR ARE SCUMM!!111" element out of this thread.....
*shrugs* Such a concept is obviously not possible.
Graelyn, I presume you never took the time to actually read what Skarnik, and his reporter Vadania actually wrote. This was not a MINNIES/AMARR are scum news item. This was Blazing Dawn announcing tha they have made a some policies in regards to NOT accepting Amarr Members and NOT a slap at the Amarr. They have openly announced that ANY Amarr can trade with them as long as they 'Denounce slavery'.
As for the Amarr bashing you started it yourself in what you said in the first post you placed in here, taunting what work had obviously been put into making this announcement.
And you call yourslelf 'Head of Public Affairs' if I were your CEO you would be sacked.
As to you Skarnik, I appluade your corp Blazing Dawn for what you have put forward today, it is holding out a hand to the Minmatar Republic while at the same time keeping your chance to make profit and be as capitalistic as you desire form within your Caldari roots.
Well done
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Lise Cantara
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn Funny, I made that statement to hopefully keep the whole "MINNIES/AMARR ARE SCUMM!!111" element out of this thread.....
*shrugs* Such a concept is obviously not possible.
Graelyn, I presume you never took the time to actually read what Skarnik, and his reporter Vadania actually wrote. This was not a MINNIES/AMARR are scum news item. This was Blazing Dawn announcing tha they have made a some policies in regards to NOT accepting Amarr Members and NOT a slap at the Amarr. They have openly announced that ANY Amarr can trade with them as long as they 'Denounce slavery'.
As for the Amarr bashing you started it yourself in what you said in the first post you placed in here, taunting what work had obviously been put into making this announcement.
And you call yourslelf 'Head of Public Affairs' if I were your CEO you would be sacked.
As to you Skarnik, I appluade your corp Blazing Dawn for what you have put forward today, it is holding out a hand to the Minmatar Republic while at the same time keeping your chance to make profit and be as capitalistic as you desire form within your Caldari roots.
Well done
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:18:00 -
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So, are you saying you won't admit any Amarran pilots, regardless of where they live or just those peopel who are citizens of the Amarran empire who actively utilise slavery? There are a large number of Caldari State Citizens of Amarran descent, will you exclude them with your policy?
As for no longer dealing with Amarrian citizens unless they fully condemn and publicly announce they are against slavery prior to your dealings . . . . rather a clusmy way to do business in the empire, if not a good way of getting your Trade Registry licenses revoked.
On your own head be it citizen. *pauses* Mind you, this won't effect you too much if you are mainly based around Lonetrek rather than pursuing trade within the Amarran Empire. *chuckles*
I wish you wealth.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Sammira
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:18:00 -
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So, are you saying you won't admit any Amarran pilots, regardless of where they live or just those peopel who are citizens of the Amarran empire who actively utilise slavery? There are a large number of Caldari State Citizens of Amarran descent, will you exclude them with your policy?
As for no longer dealing with Amarrian citizens unless they fully condemn and publicly announce they are against slavery prior to your dealings . . . . rather a clusmy way to do business in the empire, if not a good way of getting your Trade Registry licenses revoked.
On your own head be it citizen. *pauses* Mind you, this won't effect you too much if you are mainly based around Lonetrek rather than pursuing trade within the Amarran Empire. *chuckles*
I wish you wealth.
Drink StarsiÖ + [DS] Haulage Production Division Caldari State Citizen
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:01:00 -
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Skarsnik,
My old friend. We have fought together, we have fought against each other. I never thought I would see the day that proud Caldari such as ourselves would lower ourselves to the lesser races issues. What do we care if some religous fanatics imprison some vagabonds? Amarr citizens can be fine pilots, albiet caustic sometimes. Minmitar, while dense, can also fill roles that will be profitable to the corporation.
Hopefully Blazing Dawn will rethink its postions, after all at the end of the day it only matters who has the biggest gun and who has the most money. Freedoms are trivial and can be purchased with either one of these means.
cav
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.08.17 00:01:00 -
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Skarsnik,
My old friend. We have fought together, we have fought against each other. I never thought I would see the day that proud Caldari such as ourselves would lower ourselves to the lesser races issues. What do we care if some religous fanatics imprison some vagabonds? Amarr citizens can be fine pilots, albiet caustic sometimes. Minmitar, while dense, can also fill roles that will be profitable to the corporation.
Hopefully Blazing Dawn will rethink its postions, after all at the end of the day it only matters who has the biggest gun and who has the most money. Freedoms are trivial and can be purchased with either one of these means.
cav
AWM Homepage, become a #*%^ Flinging Monkey!! |
Al Haquis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 01:21:00 -
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Good news indeed , your are restoring my faith in your people.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 01:21:00 -
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Good news indeed , your are restoring my faith in your people.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Council Member, Tahiri Warrior Masuat'aa Forums
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.08.17 04:08:00 -
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Call your selves Caldari do you? I bet I'm more Caldari then the Blazing Dawn corp. This is poposterous. You have effectivly blacklisted the entire Amarr and Ammatar states from doing business with your corporation because of our stances on slavery? That's over 60% of the galaxy's business you've just shut out. Well, since you're already 9/10th's of the way there, might as well just merge with Mustaa'ii or whatever it's called.
I personally hope the Executive Panel revokes your trade license for these actions as it is quite clear your corporation is no longer interested in fair trade but moreso in servicing it's Minmatar members.
Many Minmatar's and Amarr's are in corporations not involved in any way with Slavery and those corporations still do commerce with the other side.
On a side note, to assist with Blazing Dawn's integration into the Minmatar Freedom Fighting society, I have some dog tags I plucked out of the wreckage of some vessels. I'll gladly part with a few for the right price. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.08.17 04:08:00 -
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Call your selves Caldari do you? I bet I'm more Caldari then the Blazing Dawn corp. This is poposterous. You have effectivly blacklisted the entire Amarr and Ammatar states from doing business with your corporation because of our stances on slavery? That's over 60% of the galaxy's business you've just shut out. Well, since you're already 9/10th's of the way there, might as well just merge with Mustaa'ii or whatever it's called.
I personally hope the Executive Panel revokes your trade license for these actions as it is quite clear your corporation is no longer interested in fair trade but moreso in servicing it's Minmatar members.
Many Minmatar's and Amarr's are in corporations not involved in any way with Slavery and those corporations still do commerce with the other side.
On a side note, to assist with Blazing Dawn's integration into the Minmatar Freedom Fighting society, I have some dog tags I plucked out of the wreckage of some vessels. I'll gladly part with a few for the right price. -----------------------------------
Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis Good news indeed , your are restoring my faith in your people.
I second Al Haquis here. Glad to see you people being concerned about the slavery issue. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis Good news indeed , your are restoring my faith in your people.
I second Al Haquis here. Glad to see you people being concerned about the slavery issue. ____________________________________________________
Never be in the company of anyone with whom you would not want to die.
MEDUSA veteran, Khumaak Award winner |
Maggot
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:24:00 -
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#Open Channel to Blazing Dawn HQ#
This decision is an excellent move Brothers. If you wish to take the next step and join forces with the anti-slavery military alliance The Friends of Matar (FoM) please get in touch.
#Closed Channel#
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Maggot
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:24:00 -
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#Open Channel to Blazing Dawn HQ#
This decision is an excellent move Brothers. If you wish to take the next step and join forces with the anti-slavery military alliance The Friends of Matar (FoM) please get in touch.
#Closed Channel#
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:36:00 -
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Your misguided stance on the slavery issue is unfortunate. More unfortunate however, is the fact that proud and respected Amarrian citizens should seek to join your wooly minded, bleeding heart corporation. I sincerely hope this moment of weakness has passed.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2004.08.17 08:36:00 -
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Your misguided stance on the slavery issue is unfortunate. More unfortunate however, is the fact that proud and respected Amarrian citizens should seek to join your wooly minded, bleeding heart corporation. I sincerely hope this moment of weakness has passed.
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:29:00 -
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When will people learn that it is not slavery that is the problem... everyone is slaves to something... the problem is the way some people mistreat slaves with such elements as vitoc, slaver hounds, chains and torture, all of which degrade and destory people both physically and spiritually.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.08.17 09:29:00 -
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When will people learn that it is not slavery that is the problem... everyone is slaves to something... the problem is the way some people mistreat slaves with such elements as vitoc, slaver hounds, chains and torture, all of which degrade and destory people both physically and spiritually.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
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