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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:40:00 -
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Love the delayed local.
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Chucky
Tainted Industries Barrel of Monkeys
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:07:00 -
[32]
Good thing!
New area, new rules Adapt or don't go there!
I still want the "no carebears allowed" warning on entrance
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.03.15 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 15/03/2009 15:07:55
Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: Nicholas Barker only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck.
Ok then, you get to keep local as it is now in 0.0, but if you have Sovereignty, you pay for immediate local as an extra charge on top of your of Alliance fees
Sound fair?
no
edit - do you mean only for the people who paid for it, or everybody?
either way though; no. :(
Should have clarified that /o\
I meant immediate local in 0.0 only for Alliances with Sov, but they should pay through the nose for it. No way in hell should an sovereignty alliance get free intel via a chat channel. But then in my experience, alliances with sov want it all ways; it wouldn't suprise me if they start shouting for passworded stargates next
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10k1e
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.03.16 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: 10k1e on 16/03/2009 00:04:13 Edited by: 10k1e on 16/03/2009 00:02:29 if they will keep the delayed local in wh, the only ones who will be there in 1 month time frame will be pvp hungry people and 0.0 corps/alliances ops. for carebears, again risk vs rewards => level 4 missions. i bet the ones who lost their pve navy raven ship in there will never return.
if they will aply delayed local to null and 0 space, they will lose a a lot of people from down there. the same problem like always, the new scannig sistem is unfair prey vs hunter. hunters have to many advanteges to gain from it.
on a positive note, after that, pvp people will fight and kill pvp people. no juicy stupid easy targets.
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Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2009.03.16 00:03:00 -
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Frankly, I love it. I have never felt so relaxed flying around insecure space.
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gnshadowninja
Caldari Baptism oF Fire
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Posted - 2009.03.16 09:48:00 -
[36]
I hate it as i found out that if you hit scan too many times it actually disconnects you, only happens from time to time but is very annoying.
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Karr Blanch
The Nietzian Way
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Posted - 2009.03.16 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Corduroy Rab I have never felt so relaxed flying around insecure space.
Perhaps it needs a therapist?
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Lastgaspachura
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Posted - 2009.03.16 09:53:00 -
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Delayed local is fine........ having to keep clicking the directional scanner is a stupid mechanic and there is no good reason to not have an auto refresh feature.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:42:00 -
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Its great in that it makes wormhole systems feel more dangerous and mysterious.
But to be honest, only one way in (most of the time) so you put a scout there and mash the directional scanner button and you pretty much have the functionality of local. All force recon gang is really the only thing that can get past.
Without upgrades to the scanner system I would keep delayed local solely in wormhole space. I hope they are testing things out in wormhole space for use in low/null sec...
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Imaweepony
Convergent
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lastgaspachura Delayed local is fine........ having to keep clicking the directional scanner is a stupid mechanic and there is no good reason to not have an auto refresh feature.
QFT, both statements
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I guess u finally got your revenge kindaroff after all this time lol Shame it was such a lame gank |
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Imaweepony
Originally by: Lastgaspachura Delayed local is fine........ having to keep clicking the directional scanner is a stupid mechanic and there is no good reason to not have an auto refresh feature.
QFT, both statements
What about scanning ships as they warp by? You no longer could read out all the ship types before it refreshed!
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Tanhar
Gallente Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2009.03.16 11:53:00 -
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Delayed local is fine. Constant click on scanner is miserable, but may work as interim solution. The problem is, CCP has no other solution.
However, for direct scanner to be at least acceptable, two things are necessary:
- fix the sort bug;
- give ability to filter scan probes as object category. You can see probes only when "use overview settings" isn't applied and then you need to deal with all the mess like moons and whatever else. Spamming scanner isn't much fun, but "spam scanner-sort-scroll-visually filter probes" is a pathetic emulation of "hard and dangerous".
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:16:00 -
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Delayed local + a revamped directional scanner = FTW
As it stands now, it's only half win. Delayed local really is awesome, but spamming the scanner is somewhat annoying. ----- Why doesn't anyone ever read the forums before posting? EVE is a game of adaptation and planning. Adapt or die. |
Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:22:00 -
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I LOOOOOOOVE it!!
I'm finalizing some asset changes and preparations, and I plan to permanently relocate myself into W-Space, away from the Hello Kitty -verse, only to surface for supplies and new ships (and hopefully loot sales).
Perhaps the long overdue breath of life this game sorely needed. -- No expansions before holidays and no release until QA gives it's approval |
Jack Mancetti
Minmatar Rennfeuer Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:43:00 -
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Delayed Local is crap without getting us fof identifying information on directional Scanner!
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.03.16 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret *click directional scanner*
1-2 minutes pass
*click directional scanner*
This could be rectified by having an auto-refresh on the directional scanner. Click once, and it refreshes automatically every minute.
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Spurty
Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.16 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman
Originally by: Wet Ferret *click directional scanner*
1-2 minutes pass
*click directional scanner*
This could be rectified by having an auto-refresh on the directional scanner. Click once, and it refreshes automatically every minute.
In single player games, sound very reasonable a request, however in a 'shared database resource game', hell no thanks!
Don't want to have to deal with lag as a 400 man gang is on the roam auto-lagging the server.
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Primnproper
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Posted - 2009.03.16 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Primnproper on 16/03/2009 13:35:43 Edited by: Primnproper on 16/03/2009 13:34:49 I'm loving it
And at the moment I'm only there harvesting stuff anyway.
Originally by: 10k1e if they will keep the delayed local in wh, the only ones who will be there in 1 month time frame will be pvp hungry people and 0.0 corps/alliances ops. for carebears, again risk vs rewards => level 4 missions. i bet the ones who lost their pve navy raven ship in there will never return.
You mean the only ones who be there, are the ones who arn't cowards that hide in high sec all the time.
As for the risk vs reward, yesterday I made arround 250mil in an hour in wh space, I'd say thats more than enough reward for the small risk of someone finding me with a scanner.
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The biggest issue with bringing this to 0.0 would be that in 0.0 you still have static belts where you are an easy target but in wh only exploration content means that they can't jsut stumble upon you they have to look.
So roll out no more static belts across eve, instigate an equivalent to auto refresh on the scanner apart from make it part of the standard comms between server & client so it updates that like it does the overview but maybe only once every 30secs or something, then put local in delayed mode everywhere. ...
Originally by: Graveyard Tan I call bull**** and troll. If you are deaf, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.16 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: Nicholas Barker Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 15/03/2009 15:07:55
Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: Nicholas Barker only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck.
Ok then, you get to keep local as it is now in 0.0, but if you have Sovereignty, you pay for immediate local as an extra charge on top of your of Alliance fees
Sound fair?
no
edit - do you mean only for the people who paid for it, or everybody?
either way though; no. :(
Should have clarified that /o\
I meant immediate local in 0.0 only for Alliances with Sov, but they should pay through the nose for it. No way in hell should an sovereignty alliance get free intel via a chat channel. But then in my experience, alliances with sov want it all ways; it wouldn't suprise me if they start shouting for passworded stargates next
Local in 0.0 is already immediate and we already have passworded stargates theyre called jump bridges :P
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.03.16 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Ratchman
This could be rectified by having an auto-refresh on the directional scanner. Click once, and it refreshes automatically every minute.
In single player games, sound very reasonable a request, however in a 'shared database resource game', hell no thanks!
Don't want to have to deal with lag as a 400 man gang is on the roam auto-lagging the server.
Well, the server does fine with 400 ships on grid shooting each other and having their overview constantly updating; furthermore, the directional scanner wouldn't even have to provide all the parameters that the overview does.
Off course, aouto-update by itself isn't quite enough for a revamped ship's scanner. It needs a bunch more features. ...
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Da'iel Zehn
Construct Core Operations Construct Consortium
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Posted - 2009.03.16 15:10:00 -
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I love local on delay. I think it should be that way across the board from high sec to w-space to null sec.
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DZ's website
Got a problem? Talk to my gun.
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Da'iel Zehn
Construct Core Operations Construct Consortium
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Posted - 2009.03.16 15:12:00 -
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would like an auto refresh on the scanner though so I don't have to click the button all the time. Should be able to adjust the refresh rate.
they could add all kinds of features to it too. --
DZ's website
Got a problem? Talk to my gun.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:30:00 -
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Great responses and mostly positive ones.
I actually like the idea of password control star gates, but that's just me I reckon. Besides with all the alt characters (read mostly spies) then it wouldn't be that hard to negate really.
Auto-scan button would be nice yes and raising the priority of fixing the sort and filter overview settings. (CCP and the CSM READ this line!)
To the people that think there's a difference between hunters and hunted, erm? how so? All eve characters that undock should be i) watching local and/or ii) directional scanning, whatever it is your doing. How many times have you been caught in a bubble because you warped from one gate to the other without scanning or warping to a planet/belt first?
And finally hello Kappas.
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:43:00 -
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I see lots of pirate who like delayed local. The question will be, will there be anyone but pirates in this space in a month?
As for 0.0 without local there would be know way of knowing, short of a scan hit, if a Titan was present in system. The last thing we need is a DDD buff. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU! |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.03.16 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor The question will be, will there be anyone but pirates in this space in a month?
Yes, we will. My corp mates and I will be out there I assure you. Based on what we've seen in unexplored space so far, quite a few other folks will be out there with us. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Lord WarATron
Amarr Shadow Reapers DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.03.16 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 16/03/2009 19:03:20
Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: Nicholas Barker only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck.
Ok then, you get to keep local as it is now in 0.0, but if you have Sovereignty, you pay for immediate local as an extra charge on top of your of Alliance fees
Sound fair?
It would still suck. WH space only works because WH's stop 500man nodebreaker blobs pouring though. Its virtually all small gang stuff.
And the Sov thing for local - that would just promote carebearism. We should be looking at making it easier for people to pvp, not harder. --
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Space Pinata
Amarr Discount Napkin Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.16 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor I see lots of pirate who like delayed local. The question will be, will there be anyone but pirates in this space in a month?
As for 0.0 without local there would be know way of knowing, short of a scan hit, if a Titan was present in system. The last thing we need is a DDD buff.
Confirming that important information such as an assessment of enemy forces should be obtained for free just by reading local.
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Havegun Willtravel
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Posted - 2009.03.17 01:27:00 -
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As i see it atm it's not delayed local it's non-local. There's no 10 or 60 sec delay, there's nothing unless you say o/ .
Delayed local in 0.0 or low sec could be a real possiblility. Thirty to sixty seconds delay before you appear gives the visitor a fair opportunity to jump to a planet or drop a probe. It gives everyone including the sov holder fair warning but not Big Brother type knowledge with no work.
However, without a better scanner dont bother. Having to page down in cluttered systems to see what's going on makes it beyond annoying.
Right now when you right click to show the solar system map you get 4 maps. The top 3 are totaly useless, the only one anyone uses is the bottom map to show the system you're in at the moment. Get rid of the other 3 and put a Radar like line on the system map that shows only ships. The speed at which scan would make a 360 would be skill based. End of problem.
Personaly I'd like to see a 30 sec delay in empire, 45 in low sec, and 60 in 0.0. It's about time high sec war deck gank pirates had to get off their collective butt's and do something other than look at local for war targets.
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Suede
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Posted - 2009.03.17 02:30:00 -
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One thing I hate.... myself and some friends got into wh space, mass spam of directional scanner. OH A APOC ALL ALONE! 30 minutes of scanning the bugger down, stupid goonie all blue :(
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.17 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Havegun Willtravel As i see it atm it's not delayed local it's non-local. There's no 10 or 60 sec delay, there's nothing unless you say o/ .
Delayed local in 0.0 or low sec could be a real possiblility. Thirty to sixty seconds delay before you appear gives the visitor a fair opportunity to jump to a planet or drop a probe. It gives everyone including the sov holder fair warning but not Big Brother type knowledge with no work.
However, without a better scanner dont bother. Having to page down in cluttered systems to see what's going on makes it beyond annoying.
Right now when you right click to show the solar system map you get 4 maps. The top 3 are totaly useless, the only one anyone uses is the bottom map to show the system you're in at the moment. Get rid of the other 3 and put a Radar like line on the system map that shows only ships. The speed at which scan would make a 360 would be skill based. End of problem.
Personaly I'd like to see a 30 sec delay in empire, 45 in low sec, and 60 in 0.0. It's about time high sec war deck gank pirates had to get off their collective butt's and do something other than look at local for war targets.
That is 'delayed local'. You don't show up, unless you make yourself known by saying something.
I don't know why you'd make any other local delay the showing of images and names. It personally seems counterproductive. The purpose in w-space is to remove local as an infallible intel tool. I think it does it perfectly.
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