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Totally Slick
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:39:00 -
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in case you didn't know jade used to role play space prostitutes with db preacher who is a member of ken goku |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib Also of a side note, that post is made by one alt of Jake Noble(lol apparently ccp dont ban all alt posters) who was a former high ranking member in band of brothers and still influential liason to BOB and AAA, so my point in raising the post was that it was infact a GBC post and the irony of them losing their name so recently after such a disgusting attempt and metagaming is a hilarious event of the highest order.
Like I said I don't care who made that post. I'm opposed to squatting on other people's unique entity names regardless of who thinks to do it and who they attempt to do it to. Irony or not, it represents a diminishing of the unique player history of Eve online and I think it just isn't on.
As for goonswarm paying 1b and registering the alliance name I'd still oppose that. (or anybody else doing this).
The only way I think it would be reasonable for goonswarm to get control of the Band of Brothers name is if they managed to subvert enough ceos/directors of alliance and literally kick out everyone else. (This would be pretty damned difficult of course but that hasn't stopped other people managing it in the past).
The snap disband / immediate registration of a corp to block the alliance reforming was a cheap trick whichever way you cut it and its the main reason why this delve campaign is not something that impresses the general population of the server much.
As already pointed out in this thread - ISD news reading "oh yeah we got a guy to click alliance disband and registered another corp name to steal the identity and basically won" - isn't newsworthy or good copy.
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NedFromAssembly
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 18/03/2009 23:26:01
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Kenny didn't own the name, and when it was no longer in use, anyone was free to use it.
Thats a poor argument and you know it.
Why then does an alliance that forgets to pay the bill and has a 3rd party "steal" the name in the interim get to petition and recover their name down the road?
You gained the advantage the alliance disbanding allowed you in zero'ing all BOB sovereignty and allowing the conquest of Delve.
Squatting on the Band of Brothers name and using it as an alt corp CAOD spamming entity is just taking the mickey.
If it had been any other alliances than Band of Brothers and Goonswarm involved I strongly suspect this would already have been resolved and the name returned.
You apparently don't realize how many alliance names we have turned into ten man alt corps.
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Panzram
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:53:00 -
[184]
this thread has given me acute hurf poisoning, even that space prostitute tranny is posting now.
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NedFromAssembly
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Panzram this thread has given me acute hurf poisoning, even that space prostitute tranny is posting now.
Yup because when I think 0.0 politics I think Jade Constantine
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:54:00 -
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Get over yourselves. All of you. -
Originally by: The Cuckoo Good luck in defending idiotic and greedy noobs, as far as I'm concerned, you are their champion.
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 00:06:02
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Mo adib Also of a side note, that post is made by one alt of Jake Noble(lol apparently ccp dont ban all alt posters) who was a former high ranking member in band of brothers and still influential liason to BOB and AAA, so my point in raising the post was that it was infact a GBC post and the irony of them losing their name so recently after such a disgusting attempt and metagaming is a hilarious event of the highest order.
Like I said I don't care who made that post. I'm opposed to squatting on other people's unique entity names regardless of who thinks to do it and who they attempt to do it to. Irony or not, it represents a diminishing of the unique player history of Eve online and I think it just isn't on.
As for goonswarm paying 1b and registering the alliance name I'd still oppose that. (or anybody else doing this).
The only way I think it would be reasonable for goonswarm to get control of the Band of Brothers name is if they managed to subvert enough ceos/directors of alliance and literally kick out everyone else. (This would be pretty damned difficult of course but that hasn't stopped other people managing it in the past).
The snap disband / immediate registration of a corp to block the alliance reforming was a cheap trick whichever way you cut it and its the main reason why this delve campaign is not something that impresses the general population of the server much.
As already pointed out in this thread - ISD news reading "oh yeah we got a guy to click alliance disband and registered another corp name to steal the identity and basically won" - isn't newsworthy or good copy.
you mean kind of like kicking out all the corps in bob by coercing exactly enough of the high ranking leadership in the alliance to accomplish the task which btw was determined by the type of security bob had and the access they granted to certain members.
what is newsworthy is the betrayal of one of the dominant alliances of the game by one of their higher ups and the destruction of said alliance, or maybe the loss of said alliances entire section of space that had been one of the areas of space in the longest consectuive ownership by a single entity. Or maybe we could even make it newsworthy that said alliance under new name had their entire capital fleet and a number of titan and mothership class vessels trapped in one system for an entire month, I mean surely if undocking said fleet and jumping out of system was newsworthy, then why would it not be newsworthy to report on the fleet being trapped there in the first place, or nay of the previous breakout attempts that ended in utter failure.
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 00:06:02
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Mo adib Also of a side note, that post is made by one alt of Jake Noble(lol apparently ccp dont ban all alt posters) who was a former high ranking member in band of brothers and still influential liason to BOB and AAA, so my point in raising the post was that it was infact a GBC post and the irony of them losing their name so recently after such a disgusting attempt and metagaming is a hilarious event of the highest order.
Like I said I don't care who made that post. I'm opposed to squatting on other people's unique entity names regardless of who thinks to do it and who they attempt to do it to. Irony or not, it represents a diminishing of the unique player history of Eve online and I think it just isn't on.
As for goonswarm paying 1b and registering the alliance name I'd still oppose that. (or anybody else doing this).
The only way I think it would be reasonable for goonswarm to get control of the Band of Brothers name is if they managed to subvert enough ceos/directors of alliance and literally kick out everyone else. (This would be pretty damned difficult of course but that hasn't stopped other people managing it in the past).
The snap disband / immediate registration of a corp to block the alliance reforming was a cheap trick whichever way you cut it and its the main reason why this delve campaign is not something that impresses the general population of the server much.
As already pointed out in this thread - ISD news reading "oh yeah we got a guy to click alliance disband and registered another corp name to steal the identity and basically won" - isn't newsworthy or good copy.
you mean kind of like kicking out all the corps in bob by coercing exactly enough of the high ranking leadership in the alliance to accomplish the task which btw was determined by the type of security bob had and the access they granted to certain members.
what is newsworthy is the betrayal of one of the dominant alliances of the game by one of their higher ups and the destruction of said alliance, or maybe the loss of said alliances entire section of space that had been one of the areas of space in the longest consectuive ownership by a single entity. Or maybe we could even make it newsworthy that said alliance under new name had their entire capital fleet and a number of titan and mothership class vessels trapped in one system for an entire month, I mean surely if undocking said fleet and jumping out of system was newsworthy, then why would it not be newsworthy to report on the fleet being trapped there in the first place, or nay of the previous breakout attempts that ended in utter failure.
Well then apply to ISD and write those reports.
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0 Well then apply to ISD and write those reports.
what and subvert the fair and balanced reporting you guys are putting out now?
articles are already being submitted and ignored, as some have even posted confirming in this very thread, the issue is deeper then the shallow excuse of its to much work.
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0 Well then apply to ISD and write those reports.
what and subvert the fair and balanced reporting you guys are putting out now?
articles are already being submitted and ignored, as some have even posted confirming in this very thread, the issue is deeper then the shallow excuse of its to much work.
It is a obvious conspiracy against coalition and in favor of BoB and -A- then .
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 00:37:19
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0 Well then apply to ISD and write those reports.
what and subvert the fair and balanced reporting you guys are putting out now?
articles are already being submitted and ignored, as some have even posted confirming in this very thread, the issue is deeper then the shallow excuse of its to much work.
It is a obvious conspiracy against coalition and in favor of BoB and -A- then .
No it is an obvious failure of achieving a stated objective. If they lack the will to achieve the goal of unbiased reporting they set forth then really there is no reason for ISD to exist. In which case it needs to take an idea from Aurora and be gone.
edit: on a side note still going the deny everything because everyone else is a conspiracy nut route has worked so well for you in the past its brave to continue on it, *cough* aurora *cough*, *cough* t20 *cough*, *cough metagaming *cough*, *cough* spys in ts *cough*
you are right though clearly everyone is paranoid cause your group has such a clean history of always playing honestly and not abusing everything under the sun to gain an advantage....
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0 Well then apply to ISD and write those reports.
what and subvert the fair and balanced reporting you guys are putting out now?
articles are already being submitted and ignored, as some have even posted confirming in this very thread, the issue is deeper then the shallow excuse of its to much work.
It is a obvious conspiracy against coalition and in favor of BoB and -A- then .
No it is an obvious failure of achieving a stated objective. If they lack the will to achieve the goal of unbiased reporting they set forth then really there is no reason for ISD to exist. In which case it needs to take an idea from Aurora and be gone.
I agree lets nuke everything because they werent "neutral" in your perspective .
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pesadel0
I agree lets nuke everything because they werent "neutral" in your perspective .
quick redefine what I wrote so you can have amunition against it. go go go
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 18/03/2009 23:26:01
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Kenny didn't own the name, and when it was no longer in use, anyone was free to use it.
Thats a poor argument and you know it.
Why then does an alliance that forgets to pay the bill and has a 3rd party "steal" the name in the interim get to petition and recover their name down the road?
You gained the advantage the alliance disbanding allowed you in zero'ing all BOB sovereignty and allowing the conquest of Delve.
Squatting on the Band of Brothers name and using it as an alt corp CAOD spamming entity is just taking the mickey.
If it had been any other alliances than Band of Brothers and Goonswarm involved I strongly suspect this would already have been resolved and the name returned.
CCP does not protect idiots , or else then every person who got scammed should file for a full refund . Deal with it .
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0
I agree lets nuke everything because they werent "neutral" in your perspective .
quick redefine what I wrote so you can have amunition against it. go go go
Well i can always say that the story of your expulsion from your old alliance had more substance than our battle in 49- ,not substance,but definitely more humor.It sure was a first getting kicked from an alliance because some alts on caod mailed the leaearship that your corp were going rogue.
I can see it know the tittle :"First ever CAOD Alt corp wreaks **** in drone regions"
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel CCP does not protect idiots , or else then every person who got scammed should file for a full refund . Deal with it .
Then I guess its fair to say that CCP does not protect Goonswarm from being pretty poor at propaganda and failing to submit appropriate news leads either right?
Deal with it.
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 01:00:12
Originally by: Pesadel0
Originally by: Mo adib
Originally by: Pesadel0
I agree lets nuke everything because they werent "neutral" in your perspective .
quick redefine what I wrote so you can have amunition against it. go go go
Well i can always say that the story of your expulsion from your old alliance had more substance than our battle in 49- ,not substance,but definitely more humor.It sure was a first getting kicked from an alliance because some alts on caod mailed the leaearship that your corp were going rogue.
I can see it know the tittle :"First ever CAOD Alt corp wreaks **** in drone regions"
In this subject we are in agreement, I also think it is damn hilarious how all that went down. Had it made the news I would have laughed harder even. The hard part about that being news however is that it is so unbelievable had it not happened to me I might not believe it :/
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel CCP does not protect idiots , or else then every person who got scammed should file for a full refund . Deal with it .
Then I guess its fair to say that CCP does not protect Goonswarm from being pretty poor at propaganda and failing to submit appropriate news leads either right?
Deal with it.
Biased news reporting != Scam or game mechanics .
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Biased news reporting != Scam or game mechanics .
Whats biased about following up good leads but not following up bad leads?
You guys are very quick to whine about things when something goes against you. Is it so hard to believe that you are simply worse at propaganda news than your opponents?
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:06:00 -
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You do know that aurora or what not had bobbits , right ? So what makes em bias proof .
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 01:18:16
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Biased news reporting != Scam or game mechanics .
Whats biased about following up good leads but not following up bad leads?
You guys are very quick to whine about things when something goes against you. Is it so hard to believe that you are simply worse at propaganda news than your opponents?
worst = not exploiting a neutral(Fair and Balanced CCP regulated news reporting group
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damn goonies havent sunk low enough yet jade needs you lower.
edit: fixed
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel You do know that aurora or what not had bobbits , right ? So what makes em bias proof .
And I know that CCP told us that goons had more volunteers devs gms and whatnot than bob had. Random rabble rabble is not proof.
And I also know how the in-game news process works having managed to get Star Fraction in the news more times than goons and their allies have done so far
Its not sorcery and its not rocket-science. It does take the ability to click "submit news lead" and provide the seed of the story, opportunity for journalism and suggestions for other participants to interview so the reporter can present a balanced case.
ISD don't like canned narratives or closed conclusions. Maybe thats where you are going wrong?
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SSDD24
Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:20:00 -
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Edited by: SSDD24 on 19/03/2009 01:21:10 Few days ago thanks to Jennifer1 from Arcane i had a revelation. All men that roleplay women in internet spaceships have to roleplay PMS at some point to feel their character complete.
I think Jade just reached that time of the month.
Regarding topic i think there where alot better subjects that didnt get on the news. Honestly i dont give a damn if its biased or not but poor work is poor and somebody needs to learn or go.
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Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel You do know that aurora or what not had bobbits , right ? So what makes em bias proof .
And I know that CCP told us that goons had more volunteers devs gms and whatnot than bob had. Random rabble rabble is not proof.
And I also know how the in-game news process works having managed to get Star Fraction in the news more times than goons and their allies have done so far
Its not sorcery and its not rocket-science. It does take the ability to click "submit news lead" and provide the seed of the story, opportunity for journalism and suggestions for other participants to interview so the reporter can present a balanced case.
ISD don't like canned narratives or closed conclusions. Maybe thats where you are going wrong?
So that is where Blazde went wrong on page 5 of this thread.... try again, keep the excuse mil running maybe eventually you will draw one up that cant be easily countered in 20 seconds of browsing the very thread you are posting in.
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isqander
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
And I know that CCP told us that goons had more volunteers devs gms and whatnot than bob had. Random rabble rabble is not proof.
And I also know how the in-game news process works having managed to get Star Fraction in the news more times than goons and their allies have done so far
They said that after mass-censorship failed and the same post said they were creating some mysterious internal affairs department which was never heard from again until it was supposedly disbanded. "CCP told us" is not proof. And the fact that whatever corp you run gets any attention is proof that the current system is broken.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: isqander And the fact that whatever corp you run gets any attention is proof that the current system is broken.
The fact that the goons are not very good at public relations and propaganda is not proof of anything being broken. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you have 5000 members and camped a station for a month if none of your directors or representatives are capable of submitting a valid news lead.
If you want to make an impact you have to sell yourselves properly
ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD |
Mo adib
Amarr Titan Industries Technology Team
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 19/03/2009 01:35:32
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: isqander And the fact that whatever corp you run gets any attention is proof that the current system is broken.
The fact that the goons are not very good at public relations and propaganda is not proof of anything being broken. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you have 5000 members and camped a station for a month if none of your directors or representatives are capable of submitting a valid news lead.
If you want to make an impact you have to sell yourselves properly
I would like to thank you jade for your part in keeping this issue current and at the top of the forums, you are doing a great deed in helping people to see the injustice of the current ISD propaganda machine and the people thank you for your service.
edit: also insert joke about you mentioning selling yourself properly and rping being a tranny prostitute. ahh internet irony never gets old.
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Commander Tigre
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: isqander
... blah blah blah...
If you want to make an impact you have to sell yourselves properly
I see you are 'selling' yourself and Star Fraction quite well these days.
"We Choose to listen to the lies we don't want to hear. The truth is, you're already dead." |
BobFromBoB
Gallente Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: isqander And the fact that whatever corp you run gets any attention is proof that the current system is broken.
The fact that the goons are not very good at public relations and propaganda is not proof of anything being broken. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you have 5000 members and camped a station for a month if none of your directors or representatives are capable of submitting a valid news lead.
If you want to make an impact you have to sell yourselves properly
You forgot t1 ships insutling dead RL players and our dishonourable metagaming
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mo adib I would like to thank you jade for your part in keeping this issue current and at the top of the forums...
Its an important issue really. Every so often in Eve online some alliance or another thinks to attack ISD news on the allegation of perceived "bias" its generally always revealed as sour grapes and inability to use the "submit news lead" button correctly.
On this thread we've already seen a senior goon confirming that this current anti ISD campaign is just a organized campaign of wrecking to follow on the from the organized anti-CAOD campaign of the month before.
No mystery here.
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