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Iria Ahrens
Amarr 101st Space Marine Force Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 18/03/2009 20:48:51
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
But none of them are the bored twenty-something white man who sits behind his computer and types on the forums.
Dude! You made me remember this film about WoWoW. It would be funny if they did the same thing with EVE. --
Nobody expects the Amarr Inquisition!
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Iria Ahrens Edited by: Iria Ahrens on 18/03/2009 20:48:51
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
But none of them are the bored twenty-something white man who sits behind his computer and types on the forums.
Dude! You made me remember this film about WoWoW. It would be funny if they did the same thing with EVE.
That's hilarious!
Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------|||-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon That's hilarious!
Agreed.
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Boknamar
Gallente The Knights Trevor
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Posted - 2009.03.18 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Boknamar on 18/03/2009 21:39:56 Personality is the disposition to behave in a certain way under a certain set of stimuli. Behavior in EVE is no less a reflection of real personality than anything else, it just represents a separate set of conditions and behavioral responses. It's impossible to precisely predict other facets of someone's personality based on how they act in a game. Even if there were a relatively strong correlation between a certain behavior in EVE and a behavior in, for instance, the workplace, correlations are far from guaranteed predictions of individual attributes.
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Junko Togawa
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Posted - 2009.03.18 22:40:00 -
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ITT bored trolls flog more dead horses.
Originally by: Dreximus
Originally by: Alowishus These things make the game more exciting overall for people who enjoy risk and the ability to take responsibility for their own safety. At the risk of being cliche, th |
Che Molex
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Posted - 2009.03.18 23:48:00 -
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- Mine Missions -
1) most the peeps who might probe you out in a mission deadspace are not lazy griefer types
2) the roids in some missions are Huge
A tip) You can mine 2-3 hours flipping your own cans to keep from popping, turn it in to agent and warp back to mookmark without having to take hauler through dead-gate. Rem to make that BM early !
B tip) Missions with 2+ stages can be mined daily. Clear the 1st area and mine, the mission will respawn after DT. Complete all stages 7th day, your mining will far exceed the bonus you missed.
Super TIP ) even Enemies Abound (a Lvl-4) can be done so it respawns: don't kill the Orion BS or pickup the item you were sent for, after killing all others leave. when you return he won't aggro as you mine Uber Kernite and Omber 7 days!!!
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Kylezanto
Minmatar Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:05:00 -
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I'm not going to read all that stuff about canflipping, but here are a few personal experiences:
When I was a canflipper, I always, 100% of the time worked solo. The only time when there were multiple ships is when the enemy brought his corp down against me. It makes sense to work solo, usually you don't need more than one person to kill a miner :).
Canflippers are just as cowardly as any other PvPer that kills miners. We exploit the stupidity of people in Eve, and sometimes are rewarded handsomely :).
Also, you say that can flippers are at the bottom of the food chain. I disagree, if you know at all what a food chain is, carebears would be at the bottom :).
I sense lots of anger against can flippers, probably due to an event in your past. Maybe you should direct that anger at yourself, for being stupid enough to aggress yourself the the flipper and losing a ship.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kylezanto
Also, you say that can flippers are at the bottom of the food chain. I disagree, if you know at all what a food chain is, carebears would be at the bottom :).
A non-violent, non aggressive creature who lacks the ability to defend itself, doesn't eat other animals and who's only real method of avoiding being eaten is either running or hiding.
I think the technical term is 'prey'.
Bunny rabbits. Mice.
Predators often eat other predators. But they all eat prey.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------|||-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
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NotLong ForThisLife
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
As a roleplayer, I wholeheartedly disagree.
aha. the reason for your constant and never-ending pontification.
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Kylezanto
Minmatar Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Originally by: Kylezanto
Also, you say that can flippers are at the bottom of the food chain. I disagree, if you know at all what a food chain is, carebears would be at the bottom :).
A non-violent, non aggressive creature who lacks the ability to defend itself, doesn't eat other animals and who's only real method of avoiding being eaten is either running or hiding.
I think the technical term is 'prey'.
Bunny rabbits. Mice.
Predators often eat other predators. But they all eat prey.
Both predators and prey are on the food chain though, the food chain is a more general term.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: NotLong ForThisLife
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
As a roleplayer, I wholeheartedly disagree.
aha. the reason for your constant and never-ending pontification.
Hahahah ... I had to look that one up
Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------|||-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
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minerboob
Gallente LG Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:36:00 -
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So basicly the best defence is an alt. Guess I need to get one of those.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 19/03/2009 00:50:25 When I canflip you I'd like you to do any one of these things.
- shoot me in your miningship meaning I can kill you in my frigate, if I can't kill you I'll switch ships and come back and hope for you to still be there or warp in again - get your hauler trying to grab back the ore - get your Transport going "2 WCS built in motherFFer!" - get a ship that's WAY too powerful for me to handle while you grab the can back going "HA, what you gonna do NOW with your stupid rifter", while looking smug and not being aligned. After which you'll get taken from behind by my corp mates - get a bunch of corp members in the belt with you while 1/a few are agressed after my initial agression, all I gotta do is wait till my timer ends so I can warp in and attack the singled out target. With a bit of luck (well, not luck as it almost always happens) corp members will attack anyway and get concorded - get SO angry at me being annoying (just out of range, moving around the belt, warping to different spots at 200+km of the belt) that you don't notice that as I FINALLY warp in your range I stop blinking red as I come out of warp.
In other words; if you meet someone who puts in the effort and (thus) isn't really interested in getting some cargo expanders from a silly Retriever or Badger II, just walk away.
Start using a secure can or (these days) an Orca or warp back and forth. If you get mad you'll make mistakes, and that's exactly what I want.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Transorbital Blood Alliance of Dragons
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gabrialle make sure you fit your hulk with a decent shield buffer, or some ECM (or both). If you have the skills and the space you could also add some really nasty surprises, like a web/scram combo or a target painter, then warp in your combat alt and suck up those wannabe pirate emotears. (thats right folks my hulks strip miners are powered with pirate tears )
Right on! :D
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.03.19 01:00:00 -
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Quote: Can flippers ARE actually at the bottom of the food chain - do you deny this?
Can flipping isn't a source of income; those who do it do it just for the sake of it.
Bottom of the gene pool I would've let slide, but bottom of the food chain is a very different affair.
As for the OP, if you intend to fight a can flipper, the moment they flip your corp mate's can you are entitled to shoot them. That is very different to saying you should shoot them of course, but you are able to shoot without CONCORD intervention. If you absolutely must make this horrible mistake, at least make a point of keeping good standings and intel, so that you can be sure they're not baiting the miner in an attempt to kill your command ship. ---
Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:01:00 -
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can flipping is fun, i pay the game to have fun, thus it has done its job!
but seriously, I can flip when bored, why not! its part of the game and should be fully explored.
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Kessiaan
Minmatar MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kessiaan on 19/03/2009 02:16:28 I never understood what all the rage against canflippers was about. Well, I kind of do, but I think the avenue they choose to vent their frustration is an incorrect one.
I was a full-time miner for a good, long time - about a year, actually. Beyond my second week in EvE, I was never - I'll say that again - never successfully flipped. The first time I fought a flipper I was about two weeks old, I switched out of my Scythe and into my craptacularly fit mission Rupture and shot it out with a Rifter. Didn't kill him but he left and I got my ore back. After that I always kept a pvp frig in the system I was mining in, and I'd either switch into it after getting flipped, or blow up my ore can with my own drones before it got flipped if I didn't think I could take the flipping ship.
After I fought enough flippers and did enough research on how it was done I started flipping other people's cans if I got bored with mining or thought my system was too crowded.
TLDR: You can fight can flippers and be successful at it. You just have to be smart about choosing your fights and proactive with staging your pvp ships.
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:34:00 -
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Edited by: Agent Known on 19/03/2009 02:34:46 Because I don't have the attention span to read all these posts, I'll sum it up:
No ore is worth losing your ship over. You can mine more of it.
Simple as that. Even if they take ALL your ore, shrug it off and mine some more or change belts. Or, mine with a corp. Or, change to a less-populated system. There's no possible way a hulk can pop a flipper without them being able to come out in something bigger to kill you with. Even scrambling is useless since they can just fly out of range...
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:36:00 -
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Now, this is a story all about how My can got flipped-turned upside down -
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Now, this is a story all about how My can got flipped-turned upside down
Icwutudidthar
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar Transorbital Blood Alliance of Dragons
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Known Edited by: Agent Known on 19/03/2009 02:34:46 There's no possible way a hulk can pop a flipper without them being able to come out in something bigger to kill you with. Even scrambling is useless since they can just fly out of range...
You obviously haven't seen this: When Carebears Attack!
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Skellington
Originally by: Agent Known Edited by: Agent Known on 19/03/2009 02:34:46 There's no possible way a hulk can pop a flipper without them being able to come out in something bigger to kill you with. Even scrambling is useless since they can just fly out of range...
You obviously haven't seen this: When Carebears Attack!
More proof that 'industry' does not equal 'carebear'.
You officially lose carebear status when you take up the means to defend yourself.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------|||-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2009.03.19 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Known No ore is worth losing your ship over. You can mine more of it.Simple as that.
But we don't just take your ore. We take your pride. And that is something that cannot be easily replaced... Draw your line in the sand! Defend your ore to the last unit of Veldspar! Never give up!
Taxman VII: Kingdom of Vlad
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Psionist
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Posted - 2009.03.19 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Considering that I'm also a Gallente female with a slave fetish
Off Topic: Good to see a fellow Gallente with an open mind.
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Vanzatoarea
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:32:00 -
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why blame can flipers when the ones to blame are in fact CCP
the issues are , as follows 1: NPC corps 2: rediculous CONCORD
So ...what ways are there to beat some pesky locusts out of a highsec system , for whatever reason , other then canbait them and hopefully pop them over ad over?
I mean, i havent tried it , but can you still suicide gang hulks after the last concord buff?
Off topic : I hear this line a lot : "you cant FORCE me to play one way or another " NEWWSFLASH : EvE`s core is the free open PvP system. That IMPLIES forcing others in a multitude of ways. Forcing them out of a certain region , forcing them to pay ransom , forcing them to buy a new clone , etc;))
BECAUSE PvP in EVE still has effects and meaning , and consequences , the "grow a pair and fight someone who can fight back" argument is flawed . This isn`t WoW , nomater what some may claim , PvP in eve is seldom about "good fight/pat on the back" . PvP in EvE ussualy has some form of objective behind it.
Personally , i only flip NPC corp members , but then again i do a lot of stuff against NPC corp members , and i honestly admit it , purpose is to either make the leave that NPC corp or leave EvE alltogether
So I say to you all : spend some isk , suicide a NPC corpie a weak at least , your actions could make a difference!
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Junko Togawa
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vanzatoarea lulztrollblab
Flog more, your trolls sustain this.
Originally by: Dreximus
Originally by: Alowishus These things make the game more exciting overall for people who enjoy risk and the ability to take responsibility for their own safety. At the risk of being cliche, th |
Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Scyala So if he can kill me without concord attacking him if i steal the ore back can't i kill him with my Astarte pilot (an Astarte is a command ship HAC version) the first time he steals my ore(Astarte pilot is in the same player corp as hulk pilot)? I fill my Hulk cargo in 3 minutes of mining so using a jet can is kind of a must.
You can shoot him with your Astarte but expect the can flippers to see a juicy target and have remote repairs and just rep the guy you aggresed and if you shoot the people doing the repping they can then aggress you as well. If you have a gang of combat ready corps mates you could probably fight it out though.
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Gabrialle
Amarr Sanctuary Logistical Industries Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
A non-violent, non aggressive creature who lacks the ability to defend itself, doesn't eat other animals and who's only real method of avoiding being eaten is either running or hiding.
I think the technical term is 'prey'.
Bunny rabbits. Mice.
Predators often eat other predators. But they all eat prey.
When was the last time you saw a shield tanked bunny rabbit with Hobgoblin IIs hanging around with the babylonian goddess of war and sex?
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
More proof that 'industry' does not equal 'carebear'.
You officially lose carebear status when you take up the means to defend yourself.
and i cant even call them carebear tears now
Originally by: Psionist
Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Considering that I'm also a Gallente female with a slave fetish
Off Topic: Good to see a fellow Gallente with an open mind.
WTB 2 sets of shackles
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: Scyala So if he can kill me without concord attacking him if i steal the ore back can't i kill him with my Astarte pilot (an Astarte is a command ship HAC version) the first time he steals my ore(Astarte pilot is in the same player corp as hulk pilot)? I fill my Hulk cargo in 3 minutes of mining so using a jet can is kind of a must.
You can shoot him with your Astarte but expect the can flippers to see a juicy target and have remote repairs and just rep the guy you aggresed and if you shoot the people doing the repping they can then aggress you as well. If you have a gang of combat ready corps mates you could probably fight it out though.
If it really escalates as far as 2 corps duking it out over a flipped can then A. The pirates really need to reassess whats fun for them B. The industrialists get to spend some of their hard earned isk on pulverising pirates
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