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Jacob Staffuer
State War Academy Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:00:00 -
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Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.
For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears". |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
379
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:07:00 -
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Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
742
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:09:00 -
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npc corp self-esteem building thread |
Ai Shun
786
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:13:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:npc corp self-esteem building thread
Don't be mean to Baby Brent. EVE Ambulation and Avatars as a separate game - see here |
Jonah Gravenstein
258
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:19:00 -
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Ways to defend yourself 101
Don't haul or fly what you can't afford to lose, getting ganked is a risk you accept when you hit undock, carebear or not.
If you can't afford to lose it, freight it with someone like redfrog or pushx, it gets ganked you keep the collateral
Insure your mission ships and haulers, any financial payback reduces the hit on your wallet.
Pimp fits are the equivalent to painting a target on your back, the man in his Artybaddon or Tornado loves your pimp fit tengus, they go squish and drop good loot.
If war decced, don't carry on as normal, you'll probably have 3 choices if crimewatch gets updated, hire mercs, fight them yourself with some allies, blueball the aggressor by playing on an out of corp alt until he gets bored.
I'm a hisec trader/missioner I follow the above and have rarely been popped unless I've done something daft. like accidentally APing into losec, never used the damn thing since.
If you're a miner, fly a retriever for the next month, they're cheaper than hulks, mine in a battleship whatever, just don't mine in an untanked max yield hulk, it's going to die. War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3547
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:26:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.
For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".
Obvious goon alt etc Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
795
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:27:00 -
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Hang out in the ''safe'' space where you are not allowed to shoot first in order to defend yourself. Somehow convince yourself that this makes you hardcore.
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
92
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:34:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.
For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".
I really wish you would stop posting, did you lose something valuable this weekend, go and take a walk outside in the fresh air
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
852
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:46:00 -
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I am a care bear. I live in syndicate.
You high sec scrubs should come up and visit some time if you think you're hard core.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Blobber NL
The Ultima Thule
1
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:54:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?
For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players. |
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
853
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Posted - 2012.04.29 20:59:00 -
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Blobber NL wrote:Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead? For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players. Then you obviously never click on the buff hulks threads.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
185
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:13:00 -
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Sticks and stones and CONCORD may break my bones but words will never hurt me. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
128
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:24:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears". Arique, Indawahwah, Mr. Epeen... adding Jacob Staffuer to the pile of idiot posters. +1 in local |
Blobber NL
The Ultima Thule
1
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:28:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Blobber NL wrote:Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead? For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players. Then you obviously never click on the buff hulks threads.
hulk tears are so ... dusty. So nope.. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
251
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:31:00 -
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That term won't be appropriate until carebears not only stop whining, but actually try to get suicide ganking buffed. |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:41:00 -
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why would they be a "hardbears"? all they do is dying..... its not so hard :) People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
854
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:45:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:That term won't be appropriate until carebears not only stop whining, but actually try to get suicide ganking buffed. Screw suicide ganking, it's a lost cause and only useful for the odd indie/hulk kill. Killing anything decent with suicide ganking is both boring and, usually, unprofitable. Its a stupid mechanic that has only become such a big "issue" because high sec care bears have been successful in eliminating virtually every other form of non-consensual PvP.
I say nerf their ability to avoid war decs, then nerf high sec into the ground. In every other game guards exist only to protect newbie areas and trade hubs, if high sec care bears want to live in a police-enforced newbie area they should be willing to accept that that involves making **** all ISK.
Oh, and when we're done with that we should nerf local, replace it with an Intel tool, and then start destroying logistics chains. Starting with a very serious look at jump freighters, the use of carriers as a personal logistics asset and nullified t3s.
If we can get all that crap addressed, and suppress the screams of these "hard core" idiots then maybe making ISK in this game would become fun again. Because at the moment its a mindless grind, and even in null sec there is so little danger its laughable.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
64
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:47:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?
Because nullbears don't like it when we point out they keep whining about highsec. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.04.29 21:49:00 -
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Maybe you could just leave your furry terms completely out of this game. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2963
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:01:00 -
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Barakach wrote:Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead? Because nullbears don't like it when we point out they keep whining about highsec. we care about your opinions only to the extent we can laugh at them |
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
165
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:12:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?
What Lexmana says TBH..
You know you carebears could fight back right? I don't want to hear that you have no PVP experience or no skills as a excuse because as a corp we had our guys train noob alts that was like a 7 day training plan for Catalysts on their open spare slots to gank stuff in high sec.
We came into a situation where our war targets were hiding their booster alts in NPC corps where supposedly we couldn't touch them.. Wrong..
http://www.squidswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=228
That's 1 Legion alt booster & his 500 mil ISK pod dead to a handful of T1 fit destroyers. You carebears whining about just getting your haulers killed by guys in gank ships can do the very same thing. You can train alts for less than 7 days and go gank the hell out of those dirty evil griefers you whine so much about.
It's not like Hulks, Haulers & Tengus are the only viable targets. With enough T1 fit el cheepo destroyers you can pretty much gank just about any ship you want in high sec.
You carebears need to quit whines, grow a pair & and fight back.. |
Shepard Book
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:20:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote:Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.
For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".
Care to share the numbers that give you this opinion?
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The D1ngo
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:29:00 -
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Mutnin wrote: So I sucker punched this kid in the face when he wasn't expecting it and then I says "Quit whinin' and grow a pair!!!!"
Fixed*
OMG...you are so tough it's...like...scary... It takes balls...BIG BALLS to do what you do...my goodness I am sooooo impressed. What time do you finish at Walmart? Do you think we could hang out?
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Tenebrae Syrennis
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:42:00 -
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Jacob Staffuer wrote: [...] you have almost no way to defend yourself. [...]
This is not true.
Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.
Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!
Think, and choose, or leave our game.
And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.
HTFU or GTFO! Is urp-splosion tyme naow? |
TWHC Assistant
34
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:44:00 -
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Why is this thread not locked yet? Does it have a chance of actually going somewhere?? |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2012.04.29 22:49:00 -
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Why would this thread be any different to the others on these forums? |
Zubrette
The Skunkworks
12
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:04:00 -
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I would say owning a tec moon makes you a carebear, as it has destroyed most of the successful alliances.
Don't get obese off moon goo, it's a sometimes food... |
Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:48:00 -
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I call them "elves." |
Bane Necran
389
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:51:00 -
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Better yet, hisec people should be called "don't care bears". "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Testerxnot Sheepherder
DeadHeads - Question Authority Crew
145
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Posted - 2012.04.30 00:15:00 -
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"Vocal minority", or what was it you nullbears said? |
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