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TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:14:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:Burn Jita was announced a long time.
If you don't have the common sense to avoid Jita and surroundings you deserve to get your ship popped from under you. You want to limit your gameplay to Jita and surroundings, fine. Then also accept the consequences.
We will use the other 7500+ systems to play in. In all fairness, having to F5 the forums everyday should not be a requirement. I know it pains most of you, but a good portion of the players believe that to play the game is to start the client and well... play the game. Not F5 forums all day everyday and then maybe log in once in a while. I am not saying the Jita thing is bad or Hulkaggedon; just trying to explain to you that hanging out on the forums should not be a requirement to the game.
You don't have to be a forum warrior F5ing your way through topic after topic to know about Burn Jita or Hulkageddon, the minimal amount of chatting or interaction with other people in game (corp mates, channels, hell even dumb old local...) would have tipped you off. It's an MMO after all, by definition you're playing with other people. If you go out of your way to avoid other people and ignore what they're up to you deserve whatever you get. |
Kyle Yanowski
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
48
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:55:00 -
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Some good posts, some bad posts in this thread. If you are going to waste your ime posting something with the word "tears" move on please. Think the word TRITE comes to mind.
cheers.
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Aversun
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
5
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:55:00 -
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As a part-time carebear, i find little to be concerned about in the scouring of Jita. Most of my corp/alliance mates only go there if its a absolute necessity.
"That which was burned, will grow anew." |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
640
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:00:00 -
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You are trying to apply logic to a group of people whose mindset and actions are not rational at all.
Best to have some Hot Chocolate, Relax, and Adapt.
If you had read any of the history of EVE's development, it was designed with a degree of griefing sPECIFICALLY built in.
Alter that and you have another game entirely.
And as much of a High Sec miner/industrialist as I am, I would be OUT OF HERE if these things stopped.
Better to focus your actions on the game's real issue: RMT and Botting.
There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Diesel47
Warlord General
12
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:09:00 -
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You can't stop jita no matter how hard you try.
"Burn jita" Pfft. Hardly.
What is OP even whining about? Nothing happened. |
Aversun
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
5
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:11:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:You can't stop jita no matter how hard you try.
"Burn jita" Pfft. Hardly.
What is OP even whining about? Nothing happened.
Swollen anal glands? |
Action Danger
Empire Special Ops Group
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:12:00 -
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Kurai Kihaku wrote:
I can directly compare what is happening in EVE to a cable company. Let's say thousands of people are watching TV and their favorite channel gets blocked.
Suddenly a malignant individual decides to hack into the cable network, and blocks this channel. Off course at this point the cable company would try to do whatever they can to track down and deal with this individual.
But what's happening in EVE is more like, the cable company saying "Hmm.. This is interesting... all these people..They are so boring, laying on their couch watching movies.. Let' add a little something into their lives. Let's make them cry and scream with anger because they lack in diversity of emotions. Lets conduct a social experiment of sorts and let this hacker continue what he is doing.... "
No.
You are completely misunderstanding the whole point of this.
And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. What is interesting is if they did anything about it, it would dramatically change the game to where it is no longer a sandbox. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere. Its ******* space. It is the style of the game. They tell you this constantly.
Also learn the difference between them supporting the event and allowing it. They allow it because the mechanic is there and everything is working as intended. |
Bischopt
Alekhine's Gun
87
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:13:00 -
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Quote:So why is CCP supporting the Burn Jita event?
Because it's the sandbox working as intended. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
640
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:39:00 -
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Action Danger wrote: And care bears in highsec are ******* over the game. CCP knows this. Highsec Carebears have slowly patch after patch changed the game because they dont like that they are not 100 percent safe somewhere.
Oh, that's right.
Things like the Boomerang Exploit shoud NEVER be corrected. Jesus......I smell panicked desperation. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Enuen Ravenseye
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
35
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:44:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way.
What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****.
If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
647
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:46:00 -
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Enuen Ravenseye wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way. What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****. If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking. Funny part, not gonna get a refund Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
641
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:47:00 -
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Enuen Ravenseye wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way. What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****. If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking.
EVE is a Sandbox. YOU are not understanding. It is NOT PvP, it is NOT PvE.
Until you can grasp that, you are playing a delusion. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:52:00 -
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''Eve isn't designed to look like a cold, harsh and unforgiving world. It's designed to BE a cold, harsh and unforgiving world.'' - Some CCP bloke
i've been in and out of Jita over the last few days and only experienced a little lag. If you're that upset go to Rens, or better still go stockpile until it's all over.
Just quit whinging and adapt, that's what sandboxes are all about
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
647
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:54:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Enuen Ravenseye wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Nobody can play the game how they like if the Goons are preventing them from playing that way. What part of PvP are you not grasping? The entire basis of a PvP-centric game - which Eve is, regardless of any arguments you may try to make - is to prevent others from playing the game how they would like. You know, by killing them and ****. If you didn't realize that Eve is a PvP game when you signed up, perhaps you should apply for a refund and then find a non-PvP game that is to your liking. EVE is a Sandbox. YOU are not understanding. It is NOT PvP, it is NOT PvE. Until you can grasp that, you are playing a delusion. EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.
Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
641
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:57:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote: EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.
Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.
You
just
don't
get
it.
God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.
Brainwashing really really works. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Rimase
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
26
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Posted - 2012.04.30 13:57:00 -
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/ignore thread
CCP support to diminish all manufactured things, all highly encouraged by 'botters', in an effort to support a restabilizing of economy, which I thoroughly believe is suppose to be a non-bot player-economy. AMIRITE? (Why CCP no improve Shareholding?): https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=71032#post71032 |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3824
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:01:00 -
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well unlikes the previous incidents of tanking or evading concord those who are getting nailed in jita burn are all dying as supposed to work out.
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Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
2
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:09:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote: EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.
Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.
You just don't get it. God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing. Brainwashing really really works.
That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak. Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.
Also if Western civilisation is more likely to 'fall' to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat, why was Hit ler so much less successful than Mao? Just a thought Dav
Edit: Stalin too Edit 2... why is 'Hit ler' censored? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
642
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:12:00 -
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Davin Nix wrote:[ That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak. Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.
Dav
Sorry you wasted so much energy there.
My argument, had you actually really read my posts, is towards those who keep claiming EVE is a PvP game.
Period and final. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:18:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Davin Nix wrote:[ That doesn't even make sense... have you not read the 'about' sections on the Eve website? Eve is supposed to be harsh and unforgiving, it's supposed to be dangerous to do things. Otherwise they'd just set it up so ships spontaneously combust whenever they fire a shot off in highsec. Conflict is what drives the game, conflict makes things interesting, without conflict we'd all be sat afk mining... or in my case, not playing the game. Carebears ARE essential to the game, but instead of moaning about how your hulks are getting shot up or you can't get into Jita why not adapt? Go find somewhere out of the way, stockpile minerals and ships. Prices are on the rise so it makes sense to stock up and sell when they peak. Alternatively, go find a wormhole, keep your eye on your scanner and keep a pos handy for production and a safe haven.
Dav Sorry you wasted so much energy there. My argument, had you actually really read my posts, is towards those who keep claiming EVE is a PvP game. Period and final.
Eve is a PvP game, at least far more PvP focussed than the vast majority of MMOs out there. Sure we have missions, incursions and wormhole sleeper sites. But it's the PvP which makes things interesting, if you had really read my post you'd have noticed the repeated references to 'conflict'. Again, if the game was supposed to be safe and PvP wasn't such a key part of the game we wouldnt be allowed guns in highsec, missions wouldnt be given in lowsec systems and concord response times would be immediate.
My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious. I spent the last 2 and half years living in China, where the majority of the population literally quote the party line when asked about key issues. Back in England and everyone is moaning about tax, decisions on the olympics and the government in general. Please try not to pigeonhole us into stereotypes, especially when you clearly haven't got a clue Dav
p.s. love how you cut that part out of the quote by the way :p |
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Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
647
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:19:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote: EVE is a PVP Sandbox. Its always been very specifically about PVP.
Well, other than Incarna, and we all know how that turned out.
You just don't get it. God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing. Brainwashing really really works. http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/80808
Even people who don't play the game know that it falls into the PVP game genre. Why can't you ram that through your head?
Western Civilization is on the brink, but its on the brink due to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth, even when proof is presented. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
642
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:25:00 -
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Davin Nix wrote: My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.
Talk about creating statements out of thin air.
I said no such thing. And that is provable above in the thread.
I said they were 'easily brainwashed"....which by default implies potential.
I never, not never, said ALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS brainwashed.
But the Goons certainly are. And they excellently demonstrate the potential.
Sorry that you read so fast or something that rather important details get missed and then UNTRUE FALSEHOODS posted about what was actually typed.
Better luck next time. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:27:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Western Civilization is on the brink, but its on the brink due to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth, even when proof is presented.
Whilst I agree that the wilfully ignorant are a royal pain in the arse I must ask... What exactly are we on the brink of? I've only been back a year but at the moment, at least in the UK the only thing i'm on the brink of is having all of my money taxed away by the government. That and this lovely new recession everyone is talking about but we're getting pretty good at those now I think. I don't know how things are across the pond but things aren't too unstable where i'm standing Dav |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
642
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:29:00 -
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Davin Nix wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Western Civilization is on the brink, but its on the brink due to people who are willfully ignorant of the truth, even when proof is presented. Whilst I agree that the wilfully ignorant are a royal pain in the arse I must ask... What exactly are we on the brink of? I've only been back a year but at the moment, at least in the UK the only thing i'm on the brink of is having all of my money taxed away by the government. That and this lovely new recession everyone is talking about but we're getting pretty good at those now I think. I don't know how things are across the pond but things aren't too unstable where i'm standing Dav
I'm NOT here to argue or debate out of game politics. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1702
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:34:00 -
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Posting in a "I pay my subscription fee, why should I be forced to think to be successful in this game?" thread. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope
22
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:35:00 -
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Life: (n) A sexually transmitted disease which always ends in death. There is currently no known cure.
~Z In EVE Online...-á-á A Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e-áI once popped a frigate with a Battleship just for the LOL's... Concord didn't think it was funny. |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Davin Nix wrote: My key issue with your post now is the incredible assumption that all western folks are brainwashed which is hilarious.
Talk about creating statements out of thin air. I said no such thing. And that is provable above in the thread. I said they were 'easily brainwashed"....which by default implies potential. I never, not never, said ALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS brainwashed. But the Goons certainly are. And they excellently demonstrate the potential. Sorry that you read so fast or something that rather important details get missed and then UNTRUE FALSEHOODS posted about what was actually typed. Better luck next time.
Errr do you read your own posts?
Ahem... if i may:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:You
just
don't
get
it.
God, you guys are so brainwashed. I see how easily Western Civilization WILL fall to an authoritarian figure in a heartbeat. This is very revealing.
Brainwashing really really works.
I have highlighted the key phrases in bold, just in case you read it too quickly
Correct me if i'm wrong but... that shows that what was as you so aptly describe 'actually typed' was not in fact 'easily brainwashed' it does in fact say 'are brainwashed' ...which to use your own phrasology, implies a current state of affairs.
The goons are not brainwashed, and the west is not easily brainwashed. They just aren't doing what you want, you're angry and you are channelling this anger into a fundamentally flawed argument with no basis of evidence.
Please, next time you challenge a statement, actually check what you wrote beforehand, else you will, once again risk making statements which are inherently false.
Dav
p.s. 'UNTRUE FALSEHOODS' Is a tautologically redundant phrase |
Davin Nix
The Brotherhood of the Two Nations Next Generation Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:37:00 -
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edit: see last post |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3575
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:42:00 -
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After some thought, I have concluded that if you tried - really tried, you could probably play EVE as a non-PvP game by only ever doing missions, only using rookie ships and ships you built from minerals you refined from your own mission loot, never buying or selling anything on the market...
...and even then it would only be a non-PvP game if not one single other player was interested in bringing PvP to your game. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3575
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Posted - 2012.04.30 14:46:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Posting in a "I pay my subscription fee, why should I be forced to think to be successful in this game?" thread.
"Why should I have to WORK for everything?! It's like saying I don't deserve it!" -Calvin
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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