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Saladinae
Angels Of Death EVE Mayhem.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:47:00 -
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Explain why if yes.
Explain why if no. Winmatar > Everything else |
Cpt Arareb
Ideal Machine Many Reckless Corps
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:56:00 -
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answer: no why: because it dont make any sense if they had |
Saladinae
Angels Of Death EVE Mayhem.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 03:58:00 -
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Cpt Arareb wrote:answer: no why: because it dont make any sense if they had
If the counter module was a medium slot, what would you say? Winmatar > Everything else |
xOm3gAx
Stain of Mind Twilight Imperium
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Posted - 2012.04.30 04:01:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Cpt Arareb wrote:answer: no why: because it dont make any sense if they had If the counter module was a medium slot, what would you say?
Would have to be a high or low slot otherwise it wouldnt make sense.
Though I dont believe they should ever make a direct counter to webbing outside of the obvious. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.04.30 04:02:00 -
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Webs already have a counter, two of them in fact. They're called "Afterburner" and "Micro Warp Drive". |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.30 04:18:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Webs already have a counter, two of them in fact. They're called "Afterburner" and "Micro Warp Drive".
Beat me to it you bastard. |
FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2012.04.30 05:13:00 -
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The Overdrive Injector also counters the web. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
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Posted - 2012.04.30 06:34:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Cpt Arareb wrote:answer: no why: because it dont make any sense if they had If the counter module was a medium slot, what would you say?
That you have discovered the secret of the Afterburner and MWD. Single-Shard, Player DrivenSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.30 11:07:00 -
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its called ECM |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian Pinked
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:05:00 -
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They do: Jam the Webbing Ship Pop the Webbing Ship Neut the Webbing Ship
MicroWarp Drive Afterburner ANY Speed Boosting Module
And don't they only affect frigs and cruisers? I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
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Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:11:00 -
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Webs effect all ships (except the EWAR immune ones) however they are not that powerful, you need 3 60% webs to get the effect of an old 90%, such a nerf the Rapiers right there, they are easily counter by going faster. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:21:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Explain why if yes.
Explain why if no.
Sensor damps ECM MWD/AB Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Wyte Ragnarok
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:38:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Explain why if yes.
Explain why if no.
Copy after me: I will always fit a propulsion module. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:52:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Webs already have a counter, two of them in fact. They're called "Afterburner" and "Micro Warp Drive".
^qft |
Diesel47
Warlord General
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Posted - 2012.04.30 12:57:00 -
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ecm beats all. |
Soldarius
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:04:00 -
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They already do. It's called an Afterburner.
Now that I bothered to read the other responses, I see I am way behind the power curve. What they said. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:30:00 -
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they do there called BLASTERS if he can web you you can just shoot him in the face. Unless of course hes in one of the long range web ships then you use the "golf clap" well spamming warp to get your pod out I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Colonel Xaven
Decadence. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:22:00 -
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best counter is staying out of web range. c/d?
So OP, your question looks a bit weird to me: It should ask WHY there are so many counters to webs, not IF there should be any... |
Lucas Schuyler
Mortis Noir.
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Posted - 2012.05.02 15:07:00 -
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Isn't their counter module a propulsion modifier?
You can't have counter, counter counter, counter counter counter to infinity. |
Adacia Calla
The Long Kiss Goodnight The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:40:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Webs already have a counter, two of them in fact. They're called "Afterburner" and "Micro Warp Drive". Beat me to it :( Test signature....forum not applying settings :( |
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ELECTR0FREAK
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Posted - 2012.05.03 01:02:00 -
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Use EW to cause aggressor to lose target lock (ECM or sensor dampners) Increase range between your ship and the aggressor so that the stasis webifier's range is exceeded Drain the aggressor's capacitor so that they can no longer run the stasis webifier (Energy neutralizer or vampire) Activate a propulsion module or (thus far not mentioned yet)
Coming soon, activate a Micro Jump Drive short-range warp module (I forget what it's called). (I remembered) Seems plenty of counters to me. Discoverer of CCP's original missile damage formula. |
Random Render
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.20 14:35:00 -
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You rarely need to web BS. Webs are for cruiser class and smaller, and that classes fit AB anyway, so how can AB be perceived as counter to web I don't know.
EW or Target Breaker is all-round countermeasure, not just web-counter. It can help, but not intended to protect against web. Increasing range is a good tip but not counter-measure that you can fit to ship. Drain cap? Seriously?
So why not spending one slot to fit specific module that will reduce web effect by 50%. Or some advanced AB (limited to 1MN) that have some counter-web field upgrade. Or rig. Something. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2008
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:27:00 -
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Y U NECRO!?
And... dude what? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Plaude Pollard
Crimson Cartel
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:39:00 -
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They already do. Have you ever heard of Afterburners, Overdrive Injectors and Microwarpdrives? They're modules that increase your speed, while Webifiers decrease the target's speed. So, no need to add more propulsion-modules. Also, all E-WAR can be countered with large enough amounts of ECM. |
Lucas Schuyler
Mortis Noir.
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:35:00 -
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Random Render wrote:You rarely need to web BS. Webs are for cruiser class and smaller, and that classes fit AB anyway, so how can AB be perceived as counter to web I don't know. .
Because Web makes target go slower while Prop Mod makes ship go faster... they are naturally opposed effects. If it makes you feel better, consider the Web to be the Counter to the AB rather than other way around. |
Tarn Kugisa
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.06.21 04:13:00 -
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I meant that Webs only drastically affect Frigs, Dessies, Cruisers and some BC's. Battleships and up don't suffer too much (Maybe the Mach a bit) because they don't move fast in the first place. I Endorse this Product and/or Service [url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16580[/url] |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.21 04:21:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:I meant that Webs only drastically affect Frigs, Dessies, Cruisers and some BC's. Battleships and up don't suffer too much (Maybe the Mach a bit) because they don't move fast in the first place.
Webs are great to stop a battleship from escaping.
Besides that, all EWAR is situational. Damps don't do much to brawlers. ECM is of limited use against drone boats (or large groups, or unexpected racial comps, etc). TPs are of limited use to help turret ships. Scrams don't do much against AB/dualprop ships. TDs do squat to missileboats (yet) This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.06.21 05:55:00 -
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Saladinae wrote:Explain why if yes.
Explain why if no.
Webs are a counter module. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.06.21 11:02:00 -
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ECM? Targeted? Burst? Drones? Energy neutralizers? Afterburner? MicroWarpDrive?
Web makes the targeted ship go 60% slower (0,4x speed multiplier) Afterburner gives a 135% bonus (2,35x speed multiplier) Combined 0,4 x 2,35 = 0,94 speed multiplier
This means an afterburner counter a webifier almost completely and vice versa
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Bouh Revetoile
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2012.06.21 12:05:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote: TPs are of limited use to help turret ships.
Actually, TP is equal to a tracking computer with tracking script, but nobody understand tracking formula.
About the web, as everyone said : Afterburner. |
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