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Zarya Hakkonen
Hakkonen Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:10:00 -
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This thread is for ideas on how to fix things that are brokenly UNDERpowered. Let's start with the Deimos, a HAC so (apparently) horrible that it has been unofficially renamed the Diemost. I have to admit that I have never flown a Deimos (or any other HAC, for that matter). What's wrong with it, and what should be changed to make it viable (not overpowered) for PVE, solo PVP, small-gang PVP, and/or fleet PVP? Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem. |
Ad Valorem
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:40:00 -
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er...fix blasters?
Nah, joking, thats not the Diemosts problem.
Large blasters need a fix though. Ask Goumindong and NightmareX. Oh no, they they are clueless on that topic. Shouldn't this be in game development? |
Lego Maniac
Minmatar Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:42:00 -
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large artillery
that is all.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:42:00 -
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The Thorax is seriously UNDERpowered!!!I mean, it needs 2 more low slots to be even viable in PVP. Last night I ****in' died to a Hulk when trying to can flip, omg...
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:50:00 -
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Large Arty. Large Blasters. Deimos. Rockets. Black Ops. Seprentis Faction ships. Guristas Faction ships. Helios. Damp Spec ships.
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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:02:00 -
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Ferox -- as far as I know, it has the lowest DPS of any BC and perhaps even lower than (almost) any cruiser.
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Jalif
Minmatar Black Sinisters
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:10:00 -
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The fact that everybody is using shield extenders on armor tanking ships who also have a armor tanking bonus. And that they are sometimes more effective with it.
Further I would say: More specialisation for Minmatar ships. |
Elora Danzik
Caldari Idiots In Spaceships
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:10:00 -
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percision missile basically they aren't. |
The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 20/03/2009 21:57:06
Originally by: TimMc Large Arty. Large Blasters. Deimos. Rockets. Black Ops. Seprentis Faction ships. Guristas Faction ships. Helios. Damp Spec ships.
This
Also Angel Faction Ships. Tempest Muninn Large AKs Ship lock Times vs Ship align Times Huggin/Rapier(since the Web they are far less usefull now)
---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:49:00 -
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This thread is setting sail for depression island... I bet none of this **** is EVER fixed.
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Zubakis
Bambooule
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:21:00 -
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Nighthawks grid (and maybe moving low to mid) -- Zuba |
Abduul Azeez
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:33:00 -
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This needs to be fixed. Abduul Azeez Troll Wars and Operations Dept. Chief THE INTERNET. Killboard |
Aggrod
Circle of Flames
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:54:00 -
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Deimos is actualy good ship for PVP. In gang it works very well as a mid speed tackle with a decent tank. Can keep up with most non speed tanked ships, while maintaining a decent tank of its own.
Ive also flown one out solo, got in 3 fights with it in one night. Killed a Drake that decided his passive tank could fight off my DPS, in fact I had enough tank and DPs to get him down to 25% hull, stop shooting nd wait for a corp mate to show up to let him get on the killboards.
Got in 2 fights against groups that night, got back to the gate the first time, burned out of warp jam range the second time. So yeah, if its flown well its a pretty good ship.
The Rattlesnake could do with some love. ---------- I devise my own demise
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Sir Substance
Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.20 23:32:00 -
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naglfar
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Incantare
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Posted - 2009.03.20 23:46:00 -
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Citadel torpedoes badly need fixing.
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Zarya Hakkonen
Hakkonen Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.20 23:56:00 -
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People, please read the actual post and not just the title. Listing things that need fixing is not helpful. If you want to talk about something other than the Deimos, feel free, but give some actual recommendations instead of just saying "X needs fixing." Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem. |
The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.21 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 21/03/2009 00:48:22
Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen People, please read the actual post and not just the title. Listing things that need fixing is not helpful. If you want to talk about something other than the Deimos, feel free, but give some actual recommendations instead of just saying "X needs fixing."
It is just to lot of stuff that actual need fixing atm.
Deimos, well it is a Hac that is intendet to be a closerange gank machine. The main Problem is, it is suposed to do the same role than BCs(basicly) without the realistic Chance to take down BCs(with a PVP fitting, lol at DPS less passive Drakes).
It basicly lacks DPS to be a effective Glass cannon(because you canŠt win vs massive EHP numbers of BCs this days). It canŠt tank well(the Ishtar will do better as tanked Hac anyway) and it canŠt outgank BCs to a amout where you can win. A effective Deimos would need about 1k DPS instead his 800 atm to be effective in solo/small Gang combat and realy be efficent ship(still suizide but at least with a chance to put you target down before you are down).
CCP tryed to fix it once with a Rep Bonus(and get outvoted by the players for a reason) it is a gank mobile and most effective on his own(even with the sucky 60% Webs) since it beeing a Primary in any bigger gang fight.
Astarte(even if it got a far better Tank) is basicly the same, it lacks DPS(while beeing the CS that can put out the most DPS possible) to be effective in his role.
In the end the most ganky Hacs\CS lack DPS, simply because they are suposed to challange bigger ships at close range.
---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2009.03.21 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance naglfar
/thread
It is still vertical. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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