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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:32:00 -
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it owns you all. I can mine same as a dominix because i have caldari cruiser lvl 5... thought id rub it in to all you domi pilots with your 6 turrets... my 3 work just as good =)
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:32:00 -
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it owns you all. I can mine same as a dominix because i have caldari cruiser lvl 5... thought id rub it in to all you domi pilots with your 6 turrets... my 3 work just as good =)
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:34:00 -
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I'm a domi pilot, but I DON'T MINE! hehehe
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:34:00 -
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I'm a domi pilot, but I DON'T MINE! hehehe
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Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:53:00 -
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come back when you can chain a 1mil isk bs and 4 100k cruiser rats without stopping your mining lasers
oh btw, the osprey mines certain things better than the dom... mining5 astro 5 on a miner2= 93.75 m3/min= 5 units crok/bist/ark per minute. x6 = 30 units per minute. same skills + caldari cruiser 5 = 33 units crok/bist/ark per minute.
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Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:53:00 -
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come back when you can chain a 1mil isk bs and 4 100k cruiser rats without stopping your mining lasers
oh btw, the osprey mines certain things better than the dom... mining5 astro 5 on a miner2= 93.75 m3/min= 5 units crok/bist/ark per minute. x6 = 30 units per minute. same skills + caldari cruiser 5 = 33 units crok/bist/ark per minute.
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.08.19 09:05:00 -
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heheheh, now we know it, crice are carebears... but on the serious side, mining must be the only thing the osprey is "good" at --------------------------
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Elrathias
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Posted - 2004.08.19 09:05:00 -
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heheheh, now we know it, crice are carebears... but on the serious side, mining must be the only thing the osprey is "good" at --------------------------
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Ravenal
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:28:00 -
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correct me if im wrong here, but you can actually mine MORE ore in your osprey/scythe if you have cruiser lvl5...
how?
...havent tried it yet, but theese calculations should be correct: at mining 5-4 (90 units per cycle) you mine 5,625 (rounded down to 5 units) of vol 16 ore per minute per laser. Effective yield of 10 for two lasers.
But with the osprey/scythe - you are effectively mining 180 units per minute per laser and 180/16 = 11,25 (rounded to 11 units).
Meaning you actually mine additional ark, bist, crok per mining cycle per laser, bringing your total amount to 33 per minute using cruiser lvl 5 in your osprey/scythe compared to 30 units using 6 mining lasers on dom/tempest or higher (megathron, arma and apoc beat that of course by using the 7th or 8th mining laser).
confirm please?
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Ravenal
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:28:00 -
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correct me if im wrong here, but you can actually mine MORE ore in your osprey/scythe if you have cruiser lvl5...
how?
...havent tried it yet, but theese calculations should be correct: at mining 5-4 (90 units per cycle) you mine 5,625 (rounded down to 5 units) of vol 16 ore per minute per laser. Effective yield of 10 for two lasers.
But with the osprey/scythe - you are effectively mining 180 units per minute per laser and 180/16 = 11,25 (rounded to 11 units).
Meaning you actually mine additional ark, bist, crok per mining cycle per laser, bringing your total amount to 33 per minute using cruiser lvl 5 in your osprey/scythe compared to 30 units using 6 mining lasers on dom/tempest or higher (megathron, arma and apoc beat that of course by using the 7th or 8th mining laser).
confirm please?
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Ravenal
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ravenal on 19/08/2004 10:32:01
Originally by: Cutter John come back when you can chain a 1mil isk bs and 4 100k cruiser rats without stopping your mining lasers
oh btw, the osprey mines certain things better than the dom... mining5 astro 5 on a miner2= 93.75 m3/min= 5 units crok/bist/ark per minute. x6 = 30 units per minute. same skills + caldari cruiser 5 = 33 units crok/bist/ark per minute.
lol, yeah - silly me for not reading the whole thread... sometimes your enthusiasm for answering gets the better of you :D
but take note that you only need mining lvl 5 and astro lvl4 to accomplish this ;) ...new sig coming up Ravenal - Fate is what you make of it. |
Ravenal
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ravenal on 19/08/2004 10:32:01
Originally by: Cutter John come back when you can chain a 1mil isk bs and 4 100k cruiser rats without stopping your mining lasers
oh btw, the osprey mines certain things better than the dom... mining5 astro 5 on a miner2= 93.75 m3/min= 5 units crok/bist/ark per minute. x6 = 30 units per minute. same skills + caldari cruiser 5 = 33 units crok/bist/ark per minute.
lol, yeah - silly me for not reading the whole thread... sometimes your enthusiasm for answering gets the better of you :D
but take note that you only need mining lvl 5 and astro lvl4 to accomplish this ;) ...new sig coming up Ravenal - Fate is what you make of it. |
hired goon
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alustrious it owns you all. I can mine same as a dominix because i have caldari cruiser lvl 5... thought id rub it in to all you domi pilots with your 6 turrets... my 3 work just as good =)
I had a dominix in my hold. Was about to set out for a little mine. I did actually consider an Osprey, but after 4 long seconds of thinking, I realized a months training to bring Caldari Cruiser to level V is a bit long to wait. ------------
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hired goon
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Posted - 2004.08.19 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alustrious it owns you all. I can mine same as a dominix because i have caldari cruiser lvl 5... thought id rub it in to all you domi pilots with your 6 turrets... my 3 work just as good =)
I had a dominix in my hold. Was about to set out for a little mine. I did actually consider an Osprey, but after 4 long seconds of thinking, I realized a months training to bring Caldari Cruiser to level V is a bit long to wait. ------------
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:07:00 -
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After a good 10 min of arguments in corp chat we came to the conclusion with lvl5 in caldari cruiser, mining and astro it should be best miner in game.
Add the 200m3 drone bay and u can get a lil more out of it.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:07:00 -
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After a good 10 min of arguments in corp chat we came to the conclusion with lvl5 in caldari cruiser, mining and astro it should be best miner in game.
Add the 200m3 drone bay and u can get a lil more out of it.
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 19/08/2004 11:21:47
Originally by: fairimear After a good 10 min of arguments in corp chat we came to the conclusion with lvl5 in caldari cruiser, mining and astro it should be best miner in game.
Add the 200m3 drone bay and u can get a lil more out of it.
Its perhaps the best mining cruiser (although a vexor with harvies would be better, but would be a load more expensive), but an apoc can mine _alot_ more, 40 high end ore/minute from its lasers and 58 per minute with 9 harvies.
An osprey does 33 high ends per minute with its lasers and 4 per minute with its drones, and last time i checked 58 was higher then 37. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 19/08/2004 11:21:47
Originally by: fairimear After a good 10 min of arguments in corp chat we came to the conclusion with lvl5 in caldari cruiser, mining and astro it should be best miner in game.
Add the 200m3 drone bay and u can get a lil more out of it.
Its perhaps the best mining cruiser (although a vexor with harvies would be better, but would be a load more expensive), but an apoc can mine _alot_ more, 40 high end ore/minute from its lasers and 58 per minute with 9 harvies.
An osprey does 33 high ends per minute with its lasers and 4 per minute with its drones, and last time i checked 58 was higher then 37. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:30:00 -
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Oh yeah, the Osprey is great for mining in high-sec space where you don't need drone defence, or ninja-mining in zero-sec space where drones mean jack - but in-between? I'd rather get a Thorax or Vexor.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:30:00 -
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Oh yeah, the Osprey is great for mining in high-sec space where you don't need drone defence, or ninja-mining in zero-sec space where drones mean jack - but in-between? I'd rather get a Thorax or Vexor.
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:41:00 -
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maybe it is better than the dom, but can your osprey tank spawns in 0.0 while mining arknor with 13 harvies?
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:41:00 -
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maybe it is better than the dom, but can your osprey tank spawns in 0.0 while mining arknor with 13 harvies?
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy maybe it is better than the dom, but can your osprey tank spawns in 0.0 while mining arknor with 13 harvies?
Thats an expensive hobby... NPC's got the annoying ability to chew up your mining drones, even if you start tanking npcs and then release drones. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Shevar
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Posted - 2004.08.19 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy maybe it is better than the dom, but can your osprey tank spawns in 0.0 while mining arknor with 13 harvies?
Thats an expensive hobby... NPC's got the annoying ability to chew up your mining drones, even if you start tanking npcs and then release drones. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 13:30:00 -
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yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
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RdAndy
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Posted - 2004.08.19 13:30:00 -
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yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
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Ta'krite
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Posted - 2004.08.19 14:29:00 -
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Ok i thin the main point is the osprey is prob your best best for 0.0 mining for one very good reason..... Its cheap when some pk'er blows it up.
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Ta'krite
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Posted - 2004.08.19 14:29:00 -
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Ok i thin the main point is the osprey is prob your best best for 0.0 mining for one very good reason..... Its cheap when some pk'er blows it up.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.19 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.08.19 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 16:00:00 -
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yes it's an awesome miner, easy to replace and more effective than most cruiser miners, just glad I picked up a BPO when it was under speculation of becoming a good miner :)
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 16:00:00 -
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yes it's an awesome miner, easy to replace and more effective than most cruiser miners, just glad I picked up a BPO when it was under speculation of becoming a good miner :)
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 20:19:00 -
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sorry i am not good at math, all i know is i was getting alot of ore! lol and i no i am not a total carebear and neither is the corp, we just get bored sometimes hehe...
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Alustrious
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Posted - 2004.08.19 20:19:00 -
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sorry i am not good at math, all i know is i was getting alot of ore! lol and i no i am not a total carebear and neither is the corp, we just get bored sometimes hehe...
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:41:00 -
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It's nice, it's cheap, but in the end, you'll waste a lot more time avoiding spawns/replacing osprey's from when you get warp jammed and blown up by npcs. Which would cut into profits... Even giving 100 percent attention to watching for spawns, they will catch you once in a while. It's far more relaxing to mine in a dom, if something spawns, you tank and kill it with your drones.
Anywhere you won't get warpjammed however, and it's a great miner.
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Malius
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:41:00 -
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It's nice, it's cheap, but in the end, you'll waste a lot more time avoiding spawns/replacing osprey's from when you get warp jammed and blown up by npcs. Which would cut into profits... Even giving 100 percent attention to watching for spawns, they will catch you once in a while. It's far more relaxing to mine in a dom, if something spawns, you tank and kill it with your drones.
Anywhere you won't get warpjammed however, and it's a great miner.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:48:00 -
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Unless, of course, you're ninja-mining Bistot/Arkanor with a factory-slot and multiple-run BPC nearby. Sounds like a low-cost, low-organisation, high-yield strategy to me!
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:48:00 -
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Unless, of course, you're ninja-mining Bistot/Arkanor with a factory-slot and multiple-run BPC nearby. Sounds like a low-cost, low-organisation, high-yield strategy to me!
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Zegna Mirage
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:08:00 -
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I'm happy with my 8 turrets. ------------------------------------
"..The power you need is hidden deep within your glorious blood, running through your veins.." -Mustafa Kemal Atat³rk
Ne mutlu T³rk³m diyene! |
Zegna Mirage
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:08:00 -
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I'm happy with my 8 turrets. ------------------------------------
"..The power you need is hidden deep within your glorious blood, running through your veins.." -Mustafa Kemal Atat³rk
Ne mutlu T³rk³m diyene! |
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SuperMarine
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:38:00 -
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Ospreys good considering Caldari have no good miners ( apart from it ), its a biatch that it mines as much asmy megathron with astro 4 / caldari cruiser 4
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SuperMarine
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:38:00 -
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Ospreys good considering Caldari have no good miners ( apart from it ), its a biatch that it mines as much asmy megathron with astro 4 / caldari cruiser 4
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Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.20 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bobby Wilson
Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
domi can in fact tank most 0.0 spawns solo... my personal setup fits 6 lasers, 3 hardeners, and 2 large repairers and can sustain them all nicely. only spawns that scare me are the commanders and 3 bs spawns. note though it cant tank if you try to fit large guns.
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Cutter John
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Posted - 2004.08.20 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bobby Wilson
Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
domi can in fact tank most 0.0 spawns solo... my personal setup fits 6 lasers, 3 hardeners, and 2 large repairers and can sustain them all nicely. only spawns that scare me are the commanders and 3 bs spawns. note though it cant tank if you try to fit large guns.
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.08.20 03:10:00 -
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WTF are you talking about the domi is the ship that can mine fastest in the whole game pull something else plz
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Toastmaster
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Posted - 2004.08.20 03:10:00 -
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WTF are you talking about the domi is the ship that can mine fastest in the whole game pull something else plz
"viper zulu > toast has killed our whole corporation ships at least once"
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Allenn Clone
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Posted - 2004.08.20 04:08:00 -
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Try this setup: High 3 Miner 2's 1 Heavy Missile Launcher Med 2 Cap rechargers 2 MWD's Low 3 CPU Enhancers
4 Medium Drones
The mwd's are great for escaping rat interceptors. :) Also, if you come a cross a weak spawn like 2-75k rats while mining, you can destroy them using the launcher and drones.
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Allenn Clone
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Posted - 2004.08.20 04:08:00 -
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Try this setup: High 3 Miner 2's 1 Heavy Missile Launcher Med 2 Cap rechargers 2 MWD's Low 3 CPU Enhancers
4 Medium Drones
The mwd's are great for escaping rat interceptors. :) Also, if you come a cross a weak spawn like 2-75k rats while mining, you can destroy them using the launcher and drones.
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.20 06:49:00 -
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Apoc is still the best miner in the game. Dom is so close in second that there is no real effective difference...well cept skill training.
Scythe can mine as good as a Tempest now, almost tempted me to take my Min Cruiser 5 back into the rock killing mod. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.20 06:49:00 -
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Apoc is still the best miner in the game. Dom is so close in second that there is no real effective difference...well cept skill training.
Scythe can mine as good as a Tempest now, almost tempted me to take my Min Cruiser 5 back into the rock killing mod. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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DarkStar251
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Posted - 2004.08.20 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bobby Wilson
Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
Ummmm....
6 miner 2, 4 cap recharger 2, roid scanner, 2 large accomodation, therm/kin hardeners, 3 cap relays.
5000 cap in 145 secs.
I can tank most Serp BS spawns indefinately, Although I prefer to kill them with 13 heavy drones and wait for a nice all cruiser spawn to come along (that way I just leave 1 rep running), wait for them to all fire on me, then deploy harvs and commence mining. Double BS spawns I cant tank for ever, but easily long enough to kill the frigs and warp out to come back with a combat rigged bs.
I have never lost a harvie in this manner, the NPCs just attack me. I can mine 56 Crok/Bist/Ark per minute, and am so well tanked I can do other things (get food etc) while mining without worrying about the NPCs (you'd have thought after 3 or 4 hrs they'd run outta ammo)
I have an apoc too but I dont like it for mining, the CPU needed for 8 miner 2s means you need a ton of CPU mods and it falls over like paper at the slightest touch of an NPC.
I dont think I'll be switching to an osprey any time soon.
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DarkStar251
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Posted - 2004.08.20 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bobby Wilson
Originally by: RdAndy yeah well im not speaking from experience, simply theoretical speculation
Yeah, that'd pretty much have to be speculation. I've flown a couple of Dominix (both now space-dust). That taking while mining thing wouldn't work not just because of the drones losses, but also because the Domi just does not have the cap (and tbh the grid either) to tank your average 0.0 spawn solo. Most solo mining (exploits aside) in 0.0 space is ninja mining, and the Osprey seems well suited to that task.
BW
Ummmm....
6 miner 2, 4 cap recharger 2, roid scanner, 2 large accomodation, therm/kin hardeners, 3 cap relays.
5000 cap in 145 secs.
I can tank most Serp BS spawns indefinately, Although I prefer to kill them with 13 heavy drones and wait for a nice all cruiser spawn to come along (that way I just leave 1 rep running), wait for them to all fire on me, then deploy harvs and commence mining. Double BS spawns I cant tank for ever, but easily long enough to kill the frigs and warp out to come back with a combat rigged bs.
I have never lost a harvie in this manner, the NPCs just attack me. I can mine 56 Crok/Bist/Ark per minute, and am so well tanked I can do other things (get food etc) while mining without worrying about the NPCs (you'd have thought after 3 or 4 hrs they'd run outta ammo)
I have an apoc too but I dont like it for mining, the CPU needed for 8 miner 2s means you need a ton of CPU mods and it falls over like paper at the slightest touch of an NPC.
I dont think I'll be switching to an osprey any time soon.
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:12:00 -
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And this is Constructive?
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:12:00 -
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And this is Constructive?
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus And this is Constructive?
____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus And this is Constructive?
____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
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