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CHuskarl
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: CHuskarl on 19/08/2004 17:12:26 plz don't flame me I mean osprey got better cargo/drone space/HP/far more cpu; and scythe only better at speed and 1 more laucher point
what do you think?
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2004.10.09 02:38:01combatYour 800mm Repeating Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 277.2 damage. |
CHuskarl
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: CHuskarl on 19/08/2004 17:12:26 plz don't flame me I mean osprey got better cargo/drone space/HP/far more cpu; and scythe only better at speed and 1 more laucher point
what do you think?
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2004.10.09 02:38:01combatYour 800mm Repeating Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 277.2 damage. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:22:00 -
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I think its fine the way it is. ................. |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:22:00 -
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I think its fine the way it is. ................. |
Jan Ors
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:38:00 -
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Osprey >>>> Scythe
Completely unfair, as they are two ships now designed for exactlly the same thing, except the Scythe does it a lot worse. In need of drastic balancing of stats to become a viable alternative to the Osprey... but knowing TomB this will either:
(a) happen at the earliest in a year's time, or (b) not happen at all.
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Jan Ors
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:38:00 -
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Osprey >>>> Scythe
Completely unfair, as they are two ships now designed for exactlly the same thing, except the Scythe does it a lot worse. In need of drastic balancing of stats to become a viable alternative to the Osprey... but knowing TomB this will either:
(a) happen at the earliest in a year's time, or (b) not happen at all.
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Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:52:00 -
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So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
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Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2004.08.19 17:52:00 -
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So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 19/08/2004 18:14:02 Edited by: Veneth on 19/08/2004 18:11:29
Quote: So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
Heh what are you talking about?? The opsrey has 400m3 in drones to 100m3 on the scythe. The scythe has 1 more high slot and one less medium slot so yes you could use 2 heavy launchers isntead of 1 on the Osprey. The osprey has more HP as well and a larger cargo hold AND more CPU and more powergrid.
and co-processors?? 3 Miners 2s = 80x3 = 240... Osprey has 275, scythe has 225 meaning you need electronics skills or Co-procssors.
The Scythe sucks compared to the Osprey Plainly put.. how many Ospreys have you seen compared to Scythes?? I've seen hundreds apon hundreds of 'Spreys and about 3-5 Scythes in over a year of gameplay and one of them was me suckering a friend into buying it, which he regrets ever doing
The Scythe needs more drones and more HP to all it's stats to make it worth thinking about..
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 19/08/2004 18:14:02 Edited by: Veneth on 19/08/2004 18:11:29
Quote: So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
Heh what are you talking about?? The opsrey has 400m3 in drones to 100m3 on the scythe. The scythe has 1 more high slot and one less medium slot so yes you could use 2 heavy launchers isntead of 1 on the Osprey. The osprey has more HP as well and a larger cargo hold AND more CPU and more powergrid.
and co-processors?? 3 Miners 2s = 80x3 = 240... Osprey has 275, scythe has 225 meaning you need electronics skills or Co-procssors.
The Scythe sucks compared to the Osprey Plainly put.. how many Ospreys have you seen compared to Scythes?? I've seen hundreds apon hundreds of 'Spreys and about 3-5 Scythes in over a year of gameplay and one of them was me suckering a friend into buying it, which he regrets ever doing
The Scythe needs more drones and more HP to all it's stats to make it worth thinking about..
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Jan Ors
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Morikai Acler So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
Oh my, you *are* joking, right? You don't need your lows full of co-processors on an Osprey (it has 50 more cpu than the Scythe), and they have the same amount of low slots. It has four times the amount of drone space, and can fit a heavy ML due to the better stats. The Scythe would struggle to fit one -let alone two- because of it's rubbish cpu.
Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
Osprey wins hands-down. The only thing the Scythe has is more speed and hislots - and both don't help it be a better miner. Someone tell me how this is fair again? ________
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Jan Ors
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Morikai Acler So, the Osprey can barely defend itself at all while it mines. While the Scythe as the ability to at least use 2 heavy missile launchers..... Doesn't the Scythe also have more low slots? Osprey only has 3, and in order to use 3 miner 2s you have to have all 3 filled with coprocs. And then you can only use a standard ML for defense.
Oh my, you *are* joking, right? You don't need your lows full of co-processors on an Osprey (it has 50 more cpu than the Scythe), and they have the same amount of low slots. It has four times the amount of drone space, and can fit a heavy ML due to the better stats. The Scythe would struggle to fit one -let alone two- because of it's rubbish cpu.
Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
Osprey wins hands-down. The only thing the Scythe has is more speed and hislots - and both don't help it be a better miner. Someone tell me how this is fair again? ________
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 19:59:00 -
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Here's how it's fair:
- The Caldari don't have a battleship that can be used to mine, while the Minmatar have something with 6 turrets, 2 launchers and drones. The Osprey has to be superior as it is the only resourcing ship in the entire Caldari line.
- The Osprey costs more, the Scythe costs less.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 19:59:00 -
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Here's how it's fair:
- The Caldari don't have a battleship that can be used to mine, while the Minmatar have something with 6 turrets, 2 launchers and drones. The Osprey has to be superior as it is the only resourcing ship in the entire Caldari line.
- The Osprey costs more, the Scythe costs less.
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CHuskarl
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Here's how it's fair:
- The Caldari don't have a battleship that can be used to mine, while the Minmatar have something with 6 turrets, 2 launchers and drones. The Osprey has to be superior as it is the only resourcing ship in the entire Caldari line.
- The Osprey costs more, the Scythe costs less.
I only said scythe need "slight" boost, at least equal to osprey. And for 1st, tempest costs much more than osprey, and osprey is more efficient. if I'm newbie, which is better to me? not to mention typhoon's poor mining ability. for 2nd, I don't know how much they cost, but since both are tier1 cruiser, I don't think will be much.
2004.10.09 02:38:01combatYour 800mm Repeating Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 277.2 damage. |
CHuskarl
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Here's how it's fair:
- The Caldari don't have a battleship that can be used to mine, while the Minmatar have something with 6 turrets, 2 launchers and drones. The Osprey has to be superior as it is the only resourcing ship in the entire Caldari line.
- The Osprey costs more, the Scythe costs less.
I only said scythe need "slight" boost, at least equal to osprey. And for 1st, tempest costs much more than osprey, and osprey is more efficient. if I'm newbie, which is better to me? not to mention typhoon's poor mining ability. for 2nd, I don't know how much they cost, but since both are tier1 cruiser, I don't think will be much.
2004.10.09 02:38:01combatYour 800mm Repeating Artillery I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 277.2 damage. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:47:00 -
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Eh, whatever, maybe a boost couldn't hurt.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 21:47:00 -
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Eh, whatever, maybe a boost couldn't hurt.
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Ta'krite
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Posted - 2004.08.19 22:19:00 -
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Hang on You cant make the scythe equal or better than the ospray, minmatar ships are supposed to be ****, its the law of TomB
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Ta'krite
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Posted - 2004.08.19 22:19:00 -
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Hang on You cant make the scythe equal or better than the ospray, minmatar ships are supposed to be ****, its the law of TomB
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.19 22:32:00 -
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õhhm why dont we make all ships equal?
not many changed with this ships, and nobody cried about this till people found a use for them in mining Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.19 22:32:00 -
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õhhm why dont we make all ships equal?
not many changed with this ships, and nobody cried about this till people found a use for them in mining Wanna fly with me?
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 23:05:00 -
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That's not entirely true.. I've always said the Scythe was lacking and now it still kinda is.
The Osprey has always been a viable noob cruiser, while the Scythe just blew, everyone hopped to the stabber instead.
Something still seems to be lacking. it doesn't have to be as good as the osprey but a few improvements could be implimented such as a larger dronehold or perhaps more shielding..
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Veneth
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Posted - 2004.08.19 23:05:00 -
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That's not entirely true.. I've always said the Scythe was lacking and now it still kinda is.
The Osprey has always been a viable noob cruiser, while the Scythe just blew, everyone hopped to the stabber instead.
Something still seems to be lacking. it doesn't have to be as good as the osprey but a few improvements could be implimented such as a larger dronehold or perhaps more shielding..
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Irish
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:54:00 -
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Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
uh the osprey has 5 hi slots. either that, or i just have the only one like that in eve, because i had 3 miners on it and 2 missile launchers today
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Irish
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Posted - 2004.08.20 00:54:00 -
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Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
uh the osprey has 5 hi slots. either that, or i just have the only one like that in eve, because i had 3 miners on it and 2 missile launchers today
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.20 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Irish
Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
uh the osprey has 5 hi slots. either that, or i just have the only one like that in eve, because i had 3 miners on it and 2 missile launchers today
also think it has 4,
all tier 1 cruisers have normally equal ammount of slots Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.20 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Irish
Osprey vs Scythe Structure: 700 vs 625 Armour: 625 vs 625 Shields: 750 vs 625 Capacitor: 675 vs 625 Speed: 150 vs 195 CPU: 275 vs 225 Power: 475 vs 425 Cargo: 485 vs 440 Drone Space: 400 vs 100 Hislots: 4 vs 5 Midslots: 4 vs 3 Lowslots: 3 vs 3
uh the osprey has 5 hi slots. either that, or i just have the only one like that in eve, because i had 3 miners on it and 2 missile launchers today
also think it has 4,
all tier 1 cruisers have normally equal ammount of slots Wanna fly with me?
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