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Esmenet
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Posted - 2009.03.24 22:51:00 -
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What idiot thinks people will fly a short range instapop falcon with no tank?
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2009.03.24 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gates "ecm brawlers"
aka "explosion"
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pallidum Treponema
I agree with my goon enemy here. Nerfing the scorp would eliminate the ewar possibility for a lot of players.
You are only supposed to fly dps ships. Dont you know anything. And yea this is my sig. |
Esmenet
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Posted - 2009.03.25 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Esmenet on 25/03/2009 21:17:04
Originally by: CCP Chronotis Currently we have two sets of different Caldari recon changes which either significantly change their roles (as we originally proposed changing the falcon to close range to account for the power of its covert ops role and rook to longer range to increase its usefulness) or reduce their ranged ECM effectiveness overall in lieu of other bonuses to give them a better more balanced role than just "jam to the max". Thus shifting them to behave less like ultra niche ships and more like recons were better intended whilst still allowing for the lack of secondary EWAR system bonus to caldari recons.
There is no "balanced" role for a specialised ewar ship like falcons. If its ecm is effective its going to get primaried nomatter what, and if it dont have range its just an expensive explosion. Go with a blackbird instead as it will explode anyway, and the blackbird is close to zero cost.
If its not effective the falcon is just a waste of space that could be taken by a dps ship (HAC or BS depending on the gang).
Look at the other recons and see how (little) they are used and try to figure out why. And yea this is my sig. |
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Posted - 2009.03.25 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: FraXy
There are means to counter every other form of Electronic Warfare module. By using Sensor Boosters, Signal Amplifiers, Tracking Computers, Tracking Enhancers, not using Shield Extenders, Shield rigs, Microwarpdrive...
Oh how often do you fit a sensor booster thinking you really need one incase you run into an arazu(if it even bothers to fit damps)? Its not really counters, just modules you use to optimize your ship for your given role. If you want a sniper ship you fit a sensor booster with range script or you cant snipe. So if you would get dampened at that range the sensor booster would not counter ****, the damp would stop your ship 100% from performing its sniper role. Too bad the specialised damp ships have not been adjusted to the nerfed damps and often dont even fit damps anymore. And yea this is my sig. |
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Posted - 2009.03.26 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nikuno Edited by: Nikuno on 26/03/2009 14:20:25 It's been said a couple of times, but I'd like to repeat the suggestion in the hope that it doesn't get lost in all the noise.
Make SDA's affect all of the EW modules in-game.
This will go a long way to balancing ew generally. Falcon pilots are using the argument that they use ALL of their slots to get the the falcon to work as it does, and with the changes are complaining about not being able to tank because of this. But the choice to do this doesn't exist for other types of ew. Given the option of a shoddy armour tank or the extra range to tracking disruptors, sensor damps, or target painters from the SDA's would be an interesting twist.
Combined with a reduction in ecm strength for the ranged falcon, and suddenly all ew would on a much more level playing field.
People have been asking for fixes to the other ewar for ages, not that anything has happened. Instead of focusing on making the other specialised ewar ships more useful, ccp has decided to toss the specialised ecm ships on the same scrapheap of ships not good enough to justify taking it over a normal dps ship. And yea this is my sig. |
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Posted - 2009.03.26 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Yakov Draken
Eve is a pvp game - please let us shoot stuff. I know some people can't handle the risk involved in pvp and recons are the answer for them as they mean very little risk of losing a ship.
Indeed. How dare they do something other than press f1 and wait. And yea this is my sig. |
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