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Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:36:00 -
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I am the greatest spymaster of them all.
www.eveskunk.com
Also, since this is a discussion do you think spying has made Eve better or worse as a game? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
917
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:41:00 -
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In before content?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:45:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:In before content?
Do you want me to post all 15 alliances mails or just read the website? |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:47:00 -
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So, you have spies in alliances that have recruting requirements/standards consisting of warm body and an eve client? Good job...I guess. That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.-á Friedrich Nietzsche
That which does not kill you, hurts like hell.-á UNKNOWN |
Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
42
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Posted - 2012.04.30 22:55:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:So, you have spies in alliances that have recruting requirements/standards consisting of warm body and an eve client? Good job...I guess.
sorta like your npc corp. oh wait.. nm. you just need to create an account.
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EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:11:00 -
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Hopefully they get those ts upgrades. |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:17:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:So, you have spies in alliances that have recruting requirements/standards consisting of warm body and an eve client? Good job...I guess.
Thanks.. I guess. |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:18:00 -
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Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates |
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:21:00 -
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Quote:Jita From:Pineapple Madras Date:2012-04-27 08:28:00 Remember pilots, Avoid Jita this weekend, goons are starting today and we dont need any more unessasary losses on our killboard.
Pine
TOP SEKRIT INFO |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
522
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:23:00 -
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So you have alts in different alliances and post their general mails? Grats you have just started your career as a spy, though claiming to be the greatest or a spymaster is a bit far fetched. |
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FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
99
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:28:00 -
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Spies make it worse. Nothing you can do about it, really. "I do believe in karma. -áThat means that whenever I do something sh**y to others, they somehow deserved it." |
FluffyDice
Psykotic Meat Fatal Ascension
130
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:36:00 -
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Naughty TJA. Ratting in blues space . Not at all shocked to find there are spies in there although why anyone would want to spy on them I can't even guess. |
Bane Necran
394
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:39:00 -
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There are no weaknesses in having lots of people in combat, like there is in real life, so i think it's good at least something provides risk for having more people involved. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Harold Tuphlos
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
47
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:40:00 -
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How can you not have anybody in test spies please ignore? You are the most incompetent spy master ever. |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:47:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates Your answer is, the list of alliances he's put up the mails for. DUH! That which does not kill you, makes you stronger.-á Friedrich Nietzsche
That which does not kill you, hurts like hell.-á UNKNOWN |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
245
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:53:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote: Also, since this is a discussion do you think spying has made Eve better or worse as a game?
Listening in on their comms is how eve is supposed to be played
Reading forums is whatcha do when you aren't playing
l ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:54:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:In before content?
LOL! I'm going to have to remember that so I can steal it later. |
Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
245
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Posted - 2012.04.30 23:55:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:There are no weaknesses in having lots of people in combat, like there is in real life, so i think it's good at least something provides risk for having more people involved.
Where do I sign up my alt?
Logistics V
Full Rack of ECM burst for RR fleet fights baby ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:41:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Spymaster Bates wrote: Also, since this is a discussion do you think spying has made Eve better or worse as a game?
Listening in on their comms is how eve is supposed to be played Reading forums is whatcha do when you aren't playing l
I agree. The real true good intel comes from direct interaction from spies in fleets and with their corps live comms information is far more useful than mails. Regardless of who can read them here they are already in the hands of the people who want the intel. |
Flakey Foont
Republic University Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:43:00 -
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Good corp name: "Conspicuous Spies." |
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Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:46:00 -
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Harold Tuphlos wrote:How can you not have anybody in test spies please ignore? You are the most incompetent spy master ever.
Now hiring!
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Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:48:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates
We had an awoxers with worse names. Placed in alliances that we thought had standards. |
Boomhaur
30
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:50:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates
I would, sounds a trustworthy person. Spys don't tell you their spys right? Plus they have normal names like Lee there's a billion Lee's out there. |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
186
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Posted - 2012.05.01 00:52:00 -
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Spies are part of the interesting metagame.
That said, sure makes it hard as **** for a newbie to make some friends. . |
Sid Hudgens
49
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Posted - 2012.05.01 01:31:00 -
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It's like wikileaks for eve. I like it. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
This post has been brought to you by an NPC corp alt. |
O'Sheagada
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 01:38:00 -
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Sandbox /
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
619
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Posted - 2012.05.01 01:47:00 -
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POS Passwords would be nice. Otherwise, meh "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
49
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Posted - 2012.05.01 02:06:00 -
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Corbin Blair wrote:Doc Fury wrote:In before content?
LOL! I'm going to have to remember that so I can steal it later. Why wait? Steal it now, while there's no one in line! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
783
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Posted - 2012.05.01 02:28:00 -
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http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=312430205
lol |
Sid Hudgens
49
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Posted - 2012.05.01 02:48:00 -
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Oh god, the rouges are invading from WoW! "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
This post has been brought to you by an NPC corp alt. |
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Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
117
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Posted - 2012.05.01 03:09:00 -
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So you didn't got a spy into dreddit...and i thought they accept everyone and their dog. |
Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
75
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Posted - 2012.05.01 03:12:00 -
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TEST is so terrible you could probably just ask one of us for all our alliance mails and we would give them to you, its not like we actually use them. |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 03:18:00 -
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Revii Lagoon wrote:TEST is so terrible you could probably just ask one of us for all our alliance mails and we would give them to you, its not like we actually use them.
Note that goons aren't on there. They typically don't send out alliance mails aswell.
WTB Michael Bolton's API key plz. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
541
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:28:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:POS Passwords would be nice. Otherwise, meh You can actually google "goon POS password" and find it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3954
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:31:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:POS Passwords would be nice. Otherwise, meh
what kind of publord considers pos passwords valuable intel "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:34:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates
friend had a guy named "Ima spy" get into several cortps before he got bored of the name and deleted him
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
138
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:35:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:Revii Lagoon wrote:TEST is so terrible you could probably just ask one of us for all our alliance mails and we would give them to you, its not like we actually use them. Note that goons aren't on there. They typically don't send out alliance mails aswell. WTB Michael Bolton's API key plz.
I can get you Helicity Boson's lol "Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:36:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:POS Passwords would be nice. Otherwise, meh You can actually google "goon POS password" and find it.
Confirmed.
Pro spy intel.
It is only a matter of time now until goons fall now right? |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
380
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Posted - 2012.05.01 04:41:00 -
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Don't be rude to the spymaster. He found a good adventure that he likes to do. That is all you need! Ferox #1 |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 05:17:00 -
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Kietay Ayari wrote:Don't be rude to the spymaster. He found a good adventure that he likes to do. That is all you need!
Thank you. I do enjoy adventures. |
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
333
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Posted - 2012.05.01 06:09:00 -
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A good spy is the one you never hear about.
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
159
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Posted - 2012.05.01 06:33:00 -
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Flakey Foont wrote:Good corp name: "Conspicuous Spies."
..or maybe just "Conspycuous." They can be led by "Conspyfucious." Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.01 08:49:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:A good spy is the one you never hear about.
A good spy is the one you never hear about.
A great spy is the one who can troll about all the intel he has and still never get caught. |
Testerxnot Sheepherder
DeadHeads - Question Authority Crew
146
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Posted - 2012.05.01 08:58:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:A good spy is the one you never hear about.
A good spy is the one you never hear about. A great spy is the one who can troll about all the intel he has and still never get caught.
Not sure if troll or just horribly delusional... |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.01 09:08:00 -
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My name is Spymaster Bates.
Is this a good reply to the above question?
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Reikazenzero
Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 10:46:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=312430205
lol
There are many thing about cascade I miss , archie angry alliance mails are one of them lolol. |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
154
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Posted - 2012.05.01 11:33:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:Also, since this is a discussion do you think spying has made Eve better or worse as a game?
I would have to go with more interesting for those playing the metagame, but less inclusive for anyone else.
Back in the days of SFCII, I was one of the Triumvirate of the Romulan SPQR. We Romulans not only RP'd the roll, but we had spies everywhere. For many campaigns we knew the enemy battle plans before their troops did. For some, we helped draft the plans. After a time, the player community came together and told us that what we were doing was making it impossible for any team to trust new players, and generally keeping a game community that was too small from growing. After that we kept up the RP aspect of it, but dropped all of our spying activities and actively worked to root out spying. It didnGÇÖt feel like being Romulan anymore, but the community was better for it and so was the game.
The problem with spying is that it's a metagame. Any player can create any number of characters and can play them all. There's no way to be certain that the player on the other side of the avatar is who he says he is and that he'll have your back when you need him, rather than sticking a knife in it when the time is right. So long as that's the case (and I don't see it changing) EVE will remain a contradiction. There is no one you can actually trust with anything, while the greatest accomplishments can only be achieved by working together. IGÇÖd love to see metagame of spying disappear, but until the day comes when you can KNOW that the avatar is who he says he is, spys could be anywhere. If they could be anywhere, people will assume that they are everywhere, and will plant spys of their own; insuring that spys will always be everywhere.
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Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:03:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Spymaster Bates wrote:Also, since this is a discussion do you think spying has made Eve better or worse as a game? I would have to go with more interesting for those playing the metagame, but less inclusive for anyone else. Back in the days of SFCII, I was one of the Triumvirate of the Romulan SPQR. We Romulans not only RP'd the roll, but we had spies everywhere. For many campaigns we knew the enemy battle plans before their troops did. For some, we helped draft the plans. After a time, the player community came together and told us that what we were doing was making it impossible for any team to trust new players, and generally keeping a game community that was too small from growing. After that we kept up the RP aspect of it, but dropped all of our spying activities and actively worked to root out spying. It didnGÇÖt feel like being Romulan anymore, but the community was better for it and so was the game. The problem with spying is that it's a metagame. Any player can create any number of characters and can play them all. There's no way to be certain that the player on the other side of the avatar is who he says he is and that he'll have your back when you need him, rather than sticking a knife in it when the time is right. So long as that's the case (and I don't see it changing) EVE will remain a contradiction. There is no one you can actually trust with anything, while the greatest accomplishments can only be achieved by working together. IGÇÖd love to see metagame of spying disappear, but until the day comes when you can KNOW that the avatar is who he says he is, spys could be anywhere. If they could be anywhere, people will assume that they are everywhere, and will plant spys of their own; insuring that spys will always be everywhere.
I can understand the attempt to keep a small group of roleplayers having issues when the metagame levels become unbearable.
I personally found over the years that my interests moved from one aspect of eve to another. I've roleplayed, mined, scammed, missioned, lived in wormhole space, and now spied. Did you not find that being a spy made you laugh like an insane person when someone was falling for your trap?
While leading the fleet is important. Who is more powerful? The spy whispering in the FC's ear or the faceman calling the primaries?
You see spying as a problem. We can agree to disagee but, I see it as another way that proves skill points and numbers don't always mean an easy victory.
I usually use 'Eve Is Real' as a punchline, but it is true spies aren't just going to go away in real warfare nor are they going away in EvE.
But, I do remember my innocent roleplayer days well. Thank you for the opinion. Twitter - @eveskunk |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:18:00 -
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Quote:eve skunk From:Morphiana Date:2012-04-30 19:18:00 Eve Skunk I love you! All your **** belong to us :) http://www.eveskunk.com/?allianceID=347718026Obviously alliance mails are WHOLEly compromised. You'll get CTA and other important information through a secondary source. Regards, Morph
U mad BREW? Twitter - @eveskunk |
VaMei
Meafi Corp
154
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:21:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:but it is true spies aren't just going to go away in ... EvE. That's why I tell friends that come to EVE that "If you can't punch him in the face IRL, then you can't trust him in EVE." There are about half a dozen EVE players I trust not to screw me over for a dime, because I trust them to not screw me over IRL. Everyone else is suspect, and frankly that's why I'm pretty much a lone wolf in an MMO. |
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Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:28:00 -
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VaMei wrote:Spymaster Bates wrote:but it is true spies aren't just going to go away in ... going away in EvE. That's why I tell friends that come to EVE that "If you can't punch him in the face IRL, then you can't trust him in EVE." There are about half a dozen EVE players I trust not to screw me over for a dime, because I trust them to not screw me over IRL. Everyone else is suspect, and frankly that's why I'm pretty much a lone wolf in an MMO.
Good logic but I've seen that logic backfire in terrible ways. Never forget about the sociopaths, lucky those type of spies are few are far between. They make even me take a step back and go "you know this is a game right?" Twitter - @eveskunk |
TWHC Assistant
39
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Posted - 2012.05.01 12:44:00 -
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How much ISKs does one make as a spy? |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:06:00 -
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TWHC Assistant wrote:How much ISKs does one make as a spy?
Depending on the level of intel you have access to it varies. We have an internal ranking system we use to determine your paygrade. Things to take into consideration are thing like ...
- Importance of the Alliance
- Your position in the Alliance (Grunt to Director)
- Active Intel Relaying (Comms, Director Meetings, Alliance Meetings, FC channels, Intel Channels)
- Passive intel Relaying (AKA The easy stuff.) (Doctrines, Mails, Forums, JB Maps, Alt Lists, Supercap Lists)
- General Activity
Being a spy should be hard. Passing on the one or two CTA mails doesn't cut it anymore. I think only maybe a handful of people in EvE are effective spies. Most are terrible and wash out in the first couple months. Twitter - @eveskunk |
TWHC Assistant
39
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:10:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:TWHC Assistant wrote:How much ISKs does one make as a spy? Depending on the level of intel you have access to it varies. We have an internal ranking system we use to determine your paygrade. Things to take into consideration are thing like ...
- Importance of the Alliance
- Your position in the Alliance (Grunt to Director)
- Active Intel Relaying (Comms, Director Meetings, Alliance Meetings, FC channels, Intel Channels)
- Passive intel Relaying (AKA The easy stuff.) (Doctrines, Mails, Forums, JB Maps, Alt Lists, Supercap Lists)
- General Activity
Being a spy should be hard. Passing on the one or two CTA mails doesn't cut it anymore. I think only maybe a handful of people in EvE are effective spies. Most are terrible and wash out in the first couple months. What if I am the director of an alliance and I pass you a copy of all my mails. How much would this be worth to you? |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:18:00 -
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TWHC Assistant wrote:Spymaster Bates wrote:TWHC Assistant wrote:How much ISKs does one make as a spy? Depending on the level of intel you have access to it varies. We have an internal ranking system we use to determine your paygrade. Things to take into consideration are thing like ...
- Importance of the Alliance
- Your position in the Alliance (Grunt to Director)
- Active Intel Relaying (Comms, Director Meetings, Alliance Meetings, FC channels, Intel Channels)
- Passive intel Relaying (AKA The easy stuff.) (Doctrines, Mails, Forums, JB Maps, Alt Lists, Supercap Lists)
- General Activity
Being a spy should be hard. Passing on the one or two CTA mails doesn't cut it anymore. I think only maybe a handful of people in EvE are effective spies. Most are terrible and wash out in the first couple months. What if I am the director of an alliance and I pass you a copy of all my mails. How much would this be worth to you?
Pretty much nothing unless it is super secret and then you'd be mailing me in private rather than posting it on a forum. Twitter - @eveskunk |
TWHC Assistant
39
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Posted - 2012.05.01 13:20:00 -
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Spymaster Bates wrote:Pretty much nothing unless it is super secret and then you'd be mailing me in private rather than posting it on a forum. I would not post it on the forums! I am looking for an easy income source. It is all super secret. I can give it to you in writting if you like. Only you and me will know about it. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
424
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:17:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Who would recruit someone named Spymaster Bates "I'm a spy," isn't something successful spies would be found saying...or they'd be found? Let's toss the OP onto the dungheap of digital history. "I found all the corps run by 12-year-olds and copy/pasted their corp mail. Ain't I a hoot?" James Bond trembles at your approach. Really. Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Armoured C
PLAYBOYS
10
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:21:00 -
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is anything actually happening in this thread ?? |
JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:41:00 -
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Armoured C wrote:is anything actually happening in this thread ??
Disband alliance button and such.
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
90
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:57:00 -
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VaMei wrote:The problem with spying is that it's a metagame. Any player can create any number of characters and can play them all. There's no way to be certain that the player on the other side of the avatar is who he says he is and that he'll have your back when you need him, rather than sticking a knife in it when the time is right. So long as that's the case (and I don't see it changing) EVE will remain a contradiction. There is no one you can actually trust with anything, while the greatest accomplishments can only be achieved by working together.
trust is not an absolute, it comes in degrees.
it is natural for any large alliance to be infiltrated at the grunt level - but usually a grunt shouldn't be able to cause any critical damage. A random grunt shouldn't be trusted with anything important but he doesn't require that trust to be a productive member of your corp/alliance either. No point creating paranoia at this level, in doubt just release the grunt-level information to the public yourself (e.g. TEST Alliance News).
At higher levels infiltration becomes much more difficult and your primary worry should be about disgruntled/burnt out long-time members, not about new spies joining you. The whole "I worked for 2 years to subvert this alliance because they killed my Merlin when I was a newbie" thing sounds cool but doesn't happen. What actually happens is "That other director (who I have been playing with for 2 years) is an arrogant prick who embarrassed me one time too often in front of my corp members".
Of course you should do the whole due diligence thing with rgds to spy detection (and there is a lot you can do, get yourself a competent IT guy with some creativity) but I generally wouldn't get too stressed out about uncovering hostile spies. Better spend your resources on getting your own spies in place to level the playing field and watch out for brewing conflicts between your lieutenants.
I can give you ISK without trusting you not to run away with it, I can give you a fleet without trusting you not to whelp it, I can give you information without trusting you not to leak it - that's something you should think about. Don't let yourself be paralyzed by the thought that you can't trust anyone completely. "No trust" doesn't translate into inaction, it translates into calculated and conscious risk taking (whereas "trust" means unconscious risk-taking). |
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Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
65
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:58:00 -
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I don't care about this thread. "The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?" |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:32:00 -
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This thread needs more AFK cloakers Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Tark Grethor
Shattered Illusion
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:35:00 -
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Post with your alts so we can see how good you realy are |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:43:00 -
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Tark Grethor wrote:Post with your alts so we can see how good you realy are
How's this? "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
This post has been brought to you by an NPC corp alt. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:50:00 -
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Tark Grethor wrote:Post with your alts so we can see how good you realy are
Fine |
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ISD Grossvogel
Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:22:00 -
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Thread locked; we already have a couple of similar threads. ISD Grossvogel (ISD -ô-Ç-+-ü-ü-ä-+-¦-¦-+-î) Captain, Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) -Æ-+-+-+-+-é-æ-Ç -¦-Ç-â-+-+-ï -+-+ -¦-+-¦-+-+-+-¦-¦-¦-ü-é-¦-+-Ä -ü -+-¦-Ç-+-¦-¦-+-+ Interstellar Services Department |
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