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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2012.05.01 08:13:00 -
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Burning Furry wrote:i'm not willing to risk losing
"WeGGVre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Spectre Seti
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 08:18:00 -
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Wall of text !!! ... but I bet that behind the ironic tone lie the big river of tears goons always had . |

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
616
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Posted - 2012.05.01 09:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nephilius wrote:Andski wrote:lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland
how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? Feels about the same as harvesting massive amounts of isk in vast areas of space, relatively risk-free, unmolested by one's enemies, all the while hiding behind the claim that there is nothing but risk in Nulsec. We work to keep it safe. You didn't earn concord's protection. lol CONCORD don't protect they are repercussions to your actions. Only thing that protects highsec from you...is you; its like being punished for doing something dangerous as a child by your parents they didn't want you to do...you learned to not do it because it would bring more repercussions if you did. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3958
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Posted - 2012.05.01 09:26:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Andski wrote:Nephilius wrote:Andski wrote:lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland
how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? Feels about the same as harvesting massive amounts of isk in vast areas of space, relatively risk-free, unmolested by one's enemies, all the while hiding behind the claim that there is nothing but risk in Nulsec. We work to keep it safe. You didn't earn concord's protection. lol CONCORD don't protect they are repercussions to your actions. Only thing that protects highsec from you...is you; its like being punished for doing something dangerous as a child by your parents they didn't want you to do...you learned to not do it because it would bring more repercussions if you did.
your opinion is of no consequence sorry "WeGGVre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

GeneralDisturbed
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2012.05.01 09:51:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Andski wrote:Nephilius wrote:Andski wrote:lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland
how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics? Feels about the same as harvesting massive amounts of isk in vast areas of space, relatively risk-free, unmolested by one's enemies, all the while hiding behind the claim that there is nothing but risk in Nulsec. We work to keep it safe. You didn't earn concord's protection. lol CONCORD don't protect they are repercussions to your actions. Only thing that protects highsec from you...is you; its like being punished for doing something dangerous as a child by your parents they didn't want you to do...you learned to not do it because it would bring more repercussions if you did.
Or if you're goons you spend a weekend killing 518billion in assets with throwaway ships, then go back to 0.0 where there are no police to stop you from fighting whoever you want, whenever you want, however you want. |

Burning Furry
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:57:00 -
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Andski wrote:Burning Furry wrote:i'm not willing to risk losing
"sigh" Sorry, i forgot, aim of the game is to bet the entire stack on red, every time....
Anyhoo...If i play 5 hours a week, join a crappy alliance to get booted for inactivity, and lose my ratting ship, pvp ships etc, then how long is it going to take me to replenish these and go try pot-luck again?
Its not about being risk adverse, its about the ******* waste of time that goes with it.
And for those saying reasonable Alliance, suggestions? |

Burning Furry
Viziam Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:59:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:[quote=Aqriue]
Or if you're goons you spend a weekend killing 518billion in assets with throwaway ships, then go back to 0.0 where there are no police to stop you from fighting whoever you want, whenever you want, however you want.
tbh, 518bill doesn't sound very impressive. For all the hype and asshattery, i was expecting trillions. Big let-down. |

Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:03:00 -
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TL:DR 0.0 player says HighSec is broken/sucks.
Solution:Stay in 0.0 |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:14:00 -
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a goon complaining about not being able to set up his overview properly lolol
you're doing it wrong |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3959
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:14:00 -
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Burning Furry wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:[quote=Aqriue]
Or if you're goons you spend a weekend killing 518billion in assets with throwaway ships, then go back to 0.0 where there are no police to stop you from fighting whoever you want, whenever you want, however you want. tbh, 518bill doesn't sound very impressive. For all the hype and asshattery, i was expecting trillions. Big let-down.
keep moving the goalposts "WeGGVre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
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Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:15:00 -
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ill give you a hint gooney
use standings |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3959
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:22:00 -
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Potamus Jenkins wrote:ill give you a hint gooney
use standings
you're obviously clueless but w/e that wasn't even the problem "WeGGVre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Nylith Empyreal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:22:00 -
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Dear god are we really comparing nullsec and 0.0, you pissants wouldn't last a second in lowsec.  "Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" -asaid the forumwarrior. "You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Potamus Jenkins wrote:ill give you a hint gooney
use standings you're obviously clueless but w/e that wasn't even the problem
im clueless?
Quote:Overview doesn't work: In 0.0 the overview is simple. You set it so blues aren't displayed. The only people on your overview at any time, aren't blue to you. And you kill them. That's how 0.0 works. In empire there are only certain people you can shoot at any given time, and there is no reliable way to see them on the overview. You cannot remove neutrals from your overview, so it only shows these people, because to eve -everyone- is neutral in some form or another.
you have a guy saying the above and im clueless? ok i dont have any problem doing exactly what he says above but im clueless.
idiots |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1139
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:32:00 -
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Nylith Empyreal wrote:Dear god are we really comparing nullsec and 0.0, you pissants wouldn't last a second in lowsec. 
MFW TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:50:00 -
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pls pls stop it all of u, my sides can't take it anymore.
amazing that a large alliance is so concerned over highsec, nothing to do in null? everyone all blue to u?
never understood what the big problem is over highsec and null, those who want to go to null do so, those that don't, stay in highsec.
so much complaining cos one side is so upset that the other isn't playing the way they do, so many tears from both sides.
I remember when I first started and Null was the main goal, after being in null and having some fun and frolics boredom set in with blob warfare and RL and a change of play style, I decided to stay in highsec and be a carebear until "I" change my mind.
It's a sad affair when large alliances have to come to highsec to get their kicks, what happened to taking out other alliances and taking their nullsec space? oh yeah easy targets are way better. I do miss the Goon v BoB fights, and no I wasn't in BoB but that's whats needed again, another large alliance with balls to have a go back at the goons...no im not a goon either, just miss the fun fights these guys got upto.
Pity its come to this and sad that probs most of the nullsec alliances are blue to each other. |

Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:53:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:And I find it amusing that people still live there when 0.0 is open to anybody that wants to come make a place for themselves in the real part of eve, where you don't have to deal with broken stations, buggy police, broken concord, and non-working wardecs. Feel free to share your own thoughts about living in such a terribad place, or come be :mad: about losing freighters to me. Go wild!
* Living where it is SOP to scurry for cover like roaches the second someone pops up in local. * Politics and the associated foolishness. * The hair-raising excitement of sitting in a blob and hitting F1 occasionally.
...where do I sign up?
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Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
43
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:08:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:Romar Agent wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:... it was a refreshing easy-mode for us, when it works. The overview shows you who you can and can't shoot in ships, and you just shoot them. ... Not long ago I heard someone state overview didn't work in highsec? GeneralDisturbed wrote:... Overview doesn't work: In 0.0 the overview is simple. You set it so blues aren't displayed. The only people on your overview at any time, aren't blue to you. And you kill them. That's how 0.0 works. In empire there are only certain people you can shoot at any given time, and there is no reliable way to see them on the overview. ... But well, I as a highsec dweller would be able to comprehend, would I? You're missing the point of what I was saying. The overview doesnt work because it does not reliably give you the information it should, as it does in 0.0. You cannot remove neutrals from it, to focus specifically on one type of enemy. You check "Remove Neutrals" and it removes everything. That isn't to say you can't do some silly convoluted process of adding color tags and flashing backgrounds and such, to pick out who you should be shooting. And even then as I pointed out, that system will still give false information. As the people who got concorded trying to kill goon pods can attest. For whatever reason, the options to only show wardecs doesn't work as it should. Like a lot of things in highsec.
You can set up your overview so neutrals are not shown. You can also set it up so only war targets show up.
Since you were just ganking stuff your overview should have been set to war targets and then locked the target from the Broadcast. If you would like I can point you a great website that helps with overview settings.
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Blobber NL
The Ultima Thule
5
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:12:00 -
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/me votes goon tears for best tears. |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:13:00 -
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Varesk wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Romar Agent wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:... it was a refreshing easy-mode for us, when it works. The overview shows you who you can and can't shoot in ships, and you just shoot them. ... Not long ago I heard someone state overview didn't work in highsec? GeneralDisturbed wrote:... Overview doesn't work: In 0.0 the overview is simple. You set it so blues aren't displayed. The only people on your overview at any time, aren't blue to you. And you kill them. That's how 0.0 works. In empire there are only certain people you can shoot at any given time, and there is no reliable way to see them on the overview. ... But well, I as a highsec dweller would be able to comprehend, would I? You're missing the point of what I was saying. The overview doesnt work because it does not reliably give you the information it should, as it does in 0.0. You cannot remove neutrals from it, to focus specifically on one type of enemy. You check "Remove Neutrals" and it removes everything. That isn't to say you can't do some silly convoluted process of adding color tags and flashing backgrounds and such, to pick out who you should be shooting. And even then as I pointed out, that system will still give false information. As the people who got concorded trying to kill goon pods can attest. For whatever reason, the options to only show wardecs doesn't work as it should. Like a lot of things in highsec. You can set up your overview so neutrals are not shown. You can also set it up so only war targets show up. Since you were just ganking stuff your overview should have been set to war targets and then locked the target from the Broadcast. If you would like I can point you a great website that helps with overview settings.
its us, not them
we are the clueless ones
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1712
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:17:00 -
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Varesk wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Romar Agent wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:... it was a refreshing easy-mode for us, when it works. The overview shows you who you can and can't shoot in ships, and you just shoot them. ... Not long ago I heard someone state overview didn't work in highsec? GeneralDisturbed wrote:... Overview doesn't work: In 0.0 the overview is simple. You set it so blues aren't displayed. The only people on your overview at any time, aren't blue to you. And you kill them. That's how 0.0 works. In empire there are only certain people you can shoot at any given time, and there is no reliable way to see them on the overview. ... But well, I as a highsec dweller would be able to comprehend, would I? You're missing the point of what I was saying. The overview doesnt work because it does not reliably give you the information it should, as it does in 0.0. You cannot remove neutrals from it, to focus specifically on one type of enemy. You check "Remove Neutrals" and it removes everything. That isn't to say you can't do some silly convoluted process of adding color tags and flashing backgrounds and such, to pick out who you should be shooting. And even then as I pointed out, that system will still give false information. As the people who got concorded trying to kill goon pods can attest. For whatever reason, the options to only show wardecs doesn't work as it should. Like a lot of things in highsec. You can set up your overview so neutrals are not shown. You can also set it up so only war targets show up. Since you were just ganking stuff your overview should have been set to war targets and then locked the target from the Broadcast. If you would like I can point you a great website that helps with overview settings.
The problem isn't removing neutrals from the overview, that's easy.
The problem is that once you have it set that way many of your other settings no longer work properly.
Let me try and remember a good example. If you have neutrals removed, you no longer see Outlaw (-5) targets properly even when they are prioritized properly. There are many other examples as well.
The overview has several well documented problems in this regard, and the issue with not being able to return fire on war targets is flat out a bug that needs to be fixed.
If you don't know what the issue is, stop commenting on it. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:18:00 -
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nope wrong. use corp/alliance standings. you can successfully only show "war targets" (or whatever standing you want to see) minus neutrals. keep swinging though its hilarious |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
853
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:19:00 -
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GeneralDisturbed wrote:Concord doesn't work: So many laughs watching highsec pilots die shooting us. It's like a gamble for us. We get shot, maybe concord decides to shoot back at them, even though we legally can be shot. So many tears there. Concord is so broken it's wonderful.
GeneralDisturbed wrote:Wardecs don't work. CCP does nothing to exploiters of this: Wardec system is a bad joke. You can easily dupe it in so many ways to your advantage. CCP does nothing about this apparently. Highlights from this were losing an entire fleet to Concord, when we shot a wardec fleet... despite getting no concord warning. Wardec pilots who sat on the undock killing us with impunity, because Concord didn't technically recognize them as a valid target, so we couldn't fire back.
So as long as a bug causes a major disadvantage to your enemies and not you it is all gravy? I see. When one appears that causes a disadvantage to you, then it is 'those evil exploiters QQ' and batphone a GM about it.
GeneralDisturbed wrote:And I find it amusing that people still live there when 0.0 is open to anybody that wants to come make a place for themselves in the real part of eve
I find it amusing that a majority of the players would rather be in high sec dealing with the game mechanics there than going to null sec and forced into the Forever War. The game is a sandbox you know. Not everyone likes to play the way you think the game should be played.
So from all of us high sec, low sec and w-space players, go **** yourself. We will play the game how we want to play it. Not how you think we should play it.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1712
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:21:00 -
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Potamus Jenkins wrote:nope wrong. use corp/alliance standings. you can successfully only show "war targets" (or whatever standing you want to see) minus neutrals. keep swinging though its hilarious
War targets are also easy.
Actually read what is posted, try it yourself, then come back and apologize.
We'll wait.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Varesk
Mafia Redux Black Legion.
43
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:26:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
The problem isn't removing neutrals from the overview, that's easy.
The problem is that once you have it set that way many of your other settings no longer work properly.
Let me try and remember a good example. If you have neutrals removed, you no longer see Outlaw (-5) targets properly even when they are prioritized properly. There are many other examples as well.
The overview has several well documented problems in this regard, and the issue with not being able to return fire on war targets is flat out a bug that needs to be fixed.
If you don't know what the issue is, stop commenting on it.
my bad,
click the show -5 sec status box. that will make them show up on your overview along with war targets.
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Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:26:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Potamus Jenkins wrote:nope wrong. use corp/alliance standings. you can successfully only show "war targets" (or whatever standing you want to see) minus neutrals. keep swinging though its hilarious War targets are also easy. Actually read what is posted, try it yourself, then come back and apologize. We'll wait. ok ill just pretend i dont have my overview already set up to not show neutrals(in my case i have one that shows only "terrible" and "bad" standing for high sec war) which is exactly what the OP is complaining about.
but please carry on |

SNeAkYbRiT
Gunslingers Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:27:00 -
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Never had any problems setting up my overview...still set my overview as if i was still in null, and i have no problems with it...and im a ******* carebear! |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company The Veyr Collective
87
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:27:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
The problem isn't removing neutrals from the overview, that's easy.
The problem is that once you have it set that way many of your other settings no longer work properly.
Let me try and remember a good example. If you have neutrals removed, you no longer see Outlaw (-5) targets properly even when they are prioritized properly. There are many other examples as well.
The overview has several well documented problems in this regard, and the issue with not being able to return fire on war targets is flat out a bug that needs to be fixed.
If you don't know what the issue is, stop commenting on it.
my bad, click the show -5 sec status box. that will make them show up on your overview along with war targets.
its like they are too thick to realise the need to set standings for people they are at war with and then adjust overview accordingly.
im gonna go back to being clueless |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1713
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:34:00 -
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SNeAkYbRiT wrote:Never had any problems setting up my overview...still set my overview as if i was still in null, and i have no problems with it...and im a ******* carebear!
I do this as well, I leave neutrals visible.
When you are a combat pilot you need to have everyone visible that is a valid target or person of interest, and filter out those who are not. This would include not only war targets, people with bad standings, people with bad sec status or outlaw status.
In Null, obviously, neutrals are a valid target and it is left enabled. In High sec this puts a lot of useless clutter in the overview.
Disabling neutrals, no matter the priority settings, obscures some of your valid targets. It is quite possible that you don't realize this because you simply don't see them to begin with. So unless there has been a stealth fix in the last couple of months there are still issues with the overview settings.
I'm sure it works just fine if the only thing you need to be aware of are war targets. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Twulf
The Konvergent League Sanctuary Pact
42
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:48:00 -
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Andski wrote:Cloned S0ul wrote:GeneralDisturbed wrote:Recently spent a few days in empire killing everything I saw that looked expensive. Was good times. But it made me remember just why living in 0.0 is so nice for us, and why we look down on people who live there. Nothing in empire works. Nothing. I remember guy who trip form 0.0 acros empire and he steal my fake plexes inside cargo bait, he was so greedyy even probably rich because he living in 0.0... He die and he come back with faction cruiser to get revenge, and after 3min i kill him again. Most of null carebaras after comeback to empire are stoned because they got no idea how empire works they cry because of neutrals or bad overwiev ;) Also go back to your 0.0 carebearland. lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics?
About as much as you like hiding behind a zerg force instead of using skill. |
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