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roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:28:00 -
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To the op. You do understand that espionage, theft and sabotage are allowable actions in game. Acceptance of the eula says you understand that. All the web page does is publicly publish the results of an act of espionage in game with in the bounds of the game. The mechanic happens to be the Ali key useing the show mail option. By your definition any one who ever organized the killing of another team in a fps should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder.
Every thing being done is with in the bounds of the game htfu and implement a better screening process for spies. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:34:00 -
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okst666 wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Geil Ding wrote:Also, the receiver of a mail is not entitled to make the mail public without consent of the sender. Ahahaha. Haha. Ha. Right. I'm sorry, I don't care about your wikipedia article because your initial premise is flawed. Ed: Ok, a challenge. Find me any law in any country that makes it illegal for a person to release regular emails (not medical records, or tax records or classified information or anything like that - just regular emails) without the consent of the sender. Not a law but I have found a court decision. http://www.e-recht24.de/news/sonstige/1061.htmlIn Germany you are not allowed to publish private E-Mails without permission of the sender. As said - this is only a court decision I have found after 3 minutes googleing. I bet if one dives deeper you will find a law.. Be it copyright or "Right on your own words" (translates very badly - basically says you are not allowed to record my voice and play it to othes without my permission - seems easy to adapt to emails) Anyway, I like the Idea of eveskunk. Except the email sent in game is not private. You accepted the eula which expressly states you waive the right to privacy in game . The reason is because espionage is an ingame activity that is part of the game. So try again. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 18:46:00 -
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POP and lock. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:30:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:roboto212 wrote:POP and lock. If you know how to pop lock you have to pass it on brother Passing it with the url http://www.eveskunk.com/api.php You have manually create the api key then manually add it. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:57:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Geil Ding wrote:I am not a layer but a programmer with a Masters degree in Software Engineering. An important topic is "ethics". We, as programmers, are often asked to build something that is against privacy laws. Our duty is to point this out and even refuse to help with breaking the law..
In this case CCP did not, intentionaly, break any laws.. as the API was build with a good intention. But right now, parts of the API, are abused in breaking laws. CCP needs to act on this, maybe even change the API.
In almost every country it is against the law to make private information public, like mails. Nobody will go to court over this, thats for sure. I hope CCP received the message and will act upon and do the "ethical" thing. You sent those mails to members of your alliance. Those members are free to do what they want with those mails. This is not exactly true in some cases. If you sent an email to someone in confidence with the expectation of privacy and the content turns out to be damaging and is deliberately made publc by the recipient, the recipent has broken the law. While he will probably not go to jail, he could lose quite a bit in court depending on the damages. Dear dumb azz you waived the expectation of privacy when you agreed to the eula specifically because Ccp foresaw corporate espionage and wanted to be safe from this issue. So if you type it in game you have the same expectation of privacy as if you published in a news paper. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:08:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Geil Ding wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Can someone please just post an image of the API key creation page where you need to purposefully check mail messages for them to be included and end this thread?
I'd do it but I'm lazy and tired and today's a holiday so I'm watching movies. I miss the option where MY mails are excluded from the API of another player. Aside of the legal aspect, what do you think what will happen with the ingame features "corp mail" and "alliance mail" when sites like these will become more common? If you stop pretending there's a legal aspect I'm happy to explain this to you. I am no layer, but as a developer I ain't allowed to make certain information public. This website and the use of the API has red flags all over them. I just here to point the red flags for you guys to make an educated decision. As a player I really find this wrong. Meta gaming and spying has always been a part of EvE, but this is wrong. There is no interaction anymore, everything is automated. So your real problem is that the proliferation of gathered intelligence is done in a public and automated manor. Well to bad htfu. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:19:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Can someone please just post an image of the API key creation page where you need to purposefully check mail messages for them to be included and end this thread?
I'd do it but I'm lazy and tired and today's a holiday so I'm watching movies.
I miss the option where MY mails are excluded from the API of another player. Aside of the legal aspect, what do you think what will happen with the ingame features "corp mail" and "alliance mail" when sites like these will become more common? If you stop pretending there's a legal aspect I'm happy to explain this to you. I am no layer, but as a developer I ain't allowed to make certain information public. This website and the use of the API has red flags all over them. I just here to point the red flags for you guys to make an educated decision. As a player I really find this wrong. Meta gaming and spying has always been a part of EvE, but Ah, Sreeqs, Youre feeding the troll. Man you should know better
Sorry I am no layer[/quote]
For the record I am no layer too. |
roboto212
Hull Breach Inc. Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:44:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:roboto212 wrote: For the record I am no layer too.
In the sense that you never have and never will lay with a woman, that is strictly correct.
lol that's about the wittiest thing i have ever heard from a goon. |
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