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seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.01 10:03:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote:I think many have seen www.eveskunk.com by now. An API from a player is (ab)used to show alliance mails on a website for everybody to see. But this is against many national laws, privacy laws to be exact. The problem could correct itself if the sender of the mail has an option to exclude the mail from the API, but there is no such option. My question to CCP, will the API be changed and the alliance and corp mails removed from the API? Torrent site aren't downloading the content themselfs, but facilitate it.. So is CCP, not sending the mails to website like www.eveskunk.com but CCP does facilitate it.
LOL tard, everything in Eve is CCPs property, every mail sent is CCP property, no laws broken, don't like it, contract me your stuffs before you go |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.01 10:08:00 -
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Luis Graca wrote:btw you do now that this site wasn't made by CCP?
But is copyrighted towards them even if it wasn't and they have the rights to use of it and anything that goes on within it |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.01 10:28:00 -
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Luis Graca wrote:seany1212 wrote:Luis Graca wrote:btw you do now that this site wasn't made by CCP? But is copyrighted towards them even if it wasn't and they have the rights to use of it and anything that goes on within it If you think thats the case CCP doesn't have anything to do either is the player that actually is giving the information cause de API is given to him and to him alone, if he share it's is fault It's like if you give is E-mail (out of the game) password is your fault something happens not the server were it's hosted
When will you understand whenever someone sends an Eve mail that its CCP property... You choose to use CCPs services (Eve, Eve mail, etc.) and you signed an EULA to say that everything used within the Eve mail system becomes CCP property, if you feel personal information has been breached send a petition until then, you better start using that Hotmail/yahoo/googlemail/AOL/etc. account of yours |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.01 11:11:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote: There should be an option if the sended mail is available through the API.
There is, you don't send one...
CCP could publicly release every mail in-game if they wanted to, but it would make absolutely no sense to, they would face public backlash, but it's still their property and they could do what they liked with it. |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:07:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:free intel with no work involved nice. Wish local could work as good.
This is so bullshit its broken IMO. Alliance leaders should be the only ones able to post alliance mails in their API's.
INB4 alliances creating encrypted mails and CODE-BREAKING ACTUALLY BECOMES A SKILL
They can be, it generally requires the communication officer role in order to post alliance mails, what the OP wants is to basically select what mails certain people receive (spais) but theirs nothing stopping spais copy/pastea into internet webpages and it doesn't breach international laws, you press send, the mail becomes CCP property. |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.02 13:44:00 -
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I love how even CCP came and shat on this thread , some people should actually read the EULA thoroughly before spewing crap like this on these forums, or just click decline to accepting it, at least that way we'd have more intelligence in this game than this |
seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:31:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote:You know, the whole problem is not about game related mails made public but personal information about stuff like health. The API does not filter those out. A spy would never copy/paste personal information to a public website as it holds no "ingame value" to be used.
Let me ask this: If I would post links to illegal content, like movies, and eveskunk automatic make them public. Who would be wrong? Eveskunk for making links to illegal content public? CCP for helping eveskunk retreiving the mails? The person sharing the API? Or the person sending a personal mail to his/her friends?
You're blowing it completely out of proportion like you have for the entire thread, whoever is posting API's to that site are more than likely using alts because I know I wouldn't want personal gameplay messages posted there and considering eveskunk only posts alliance wide messages I don't know anyone who would alliancewide post links to illegal content when anyone else could just as easily report it to CCP and CCP pull it .
As stipulated in the EULA and several links in this thread any private information you post in any form in game is at your own risk and is then posted under the assumption that it is no longer private, DONT EVEMAIL IF YOU WANT ANYTHING KEPT RL PRIVATE.
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seany1212
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Posted - 2012.05.02 17:44:00 -
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Geil Ding wrote:First of all the EULA has no legal value, at all.. Torrent sites all have an EULA, yet they are all found illegal. Any EULA, or contract, that breaks the law in one way or another will be nullified. I do not know if the website, or the API, breaks any law but it is worth investigating by CCP and define a stance on such sites. But whether or not if it is against any law, atleast it is unethical.
I do think this topic needs to be locked as enough has been said. It is clear that the privacy laws is different for most players and any discussion on this topic is pointless.
MMO's are not for you... |
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