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Col Callahan
Caldari Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:38:00 -
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Energy vampires Sensor damps Web ECM
Seems recons have slowly been beaten over the head in the last year, in all for race's. wonder if Ammar are next on the nerf baits list of doom, how much worse can they make it. we will know in a year or so.
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Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:45:00 -
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Yep, definitely signed for the sensor damps. After the e-war nerf afaik the only ones to get boosted were ECM ships. I do think that ECM is going to be nerfed next though because of all the forum tears.
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:53:00 -
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i guess the problem is gang warfare and these things only affecting single targets. cause recons are very much alive when it comes to "solo" roaming, aka you and your alt in recons: arazu dampening ratters below 15-20km for the pilgrim to drift in and out for some neuting. or just keep bringing a falcon -.- - putting the gist back into logistics |
Potrero
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.27 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Roemy Schneider i guess the problem is gang warfare and these things only affecting single targets. cause recons are very much alive when it comes to "solo" roaming, aka you and your alt in recons: arazu dampening ratters below 15-20km for the pilgrim to drift in and out for some neuting. or just keep bringing a falcon -.-
No need for further nerfing.
This scenario will be taken care of when target switching AI is ported to all the belt rats. As soon as that happens dedicated ratters will be a lot safer.
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 03:11:00 -
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how bout the ewar specialist ships start u know using ewar? instead of tackle and guns as we've already got a few hundred ships that use guns and can tackle..... hell even neuting can be done by a bs better than a amarr recon give them some fracking ewar.
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Typhado3 amarr recon give them some fracking ewar.
Have you heard about things called tracking disruptors? You know, the things that have effectiveness bonused on amarr recons? It can royally screw the tracking on any long-range gunship rendering it unable to hit your recon in orbit. Of course, if you only gank ratting ravens/domis it won't help you much. _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.03.27 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Col Callahan
Seems recons have slowly been beaten over the head in the last year, in all for race's. wonder if Ammar are next on the nerf baits list of doom, how much worse can they make it. we will know in a year or so.
My guess is that neuts are gonna catch the next nerf, and then tracking disruptors.
Shortly after the curse has completely taken the king-of-the-hill spot for recon ships and nobody flies anything else.
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow
Originally by: Typhado3 amarr recon give them some fracking ewar.
Have you heard about things called tracking disruptors? You know, the things that have effectiveness bonused on amarr recons? It can royally screw the tracking on any long-range gunship rendering it unable to hit your recon in orbit. Of course, if you only gank ratting ravens/domis it won't help you much.
by them I meant all recons not just amarr recons, amarr recons are a lot more ewar which is the sorta thing I wanna see though it could still be improved on the curse etc.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 27/03/2009 11:01:55
Originally by: Col Callahan Energy vampires Sensor damps Web ECM
Seems recons have slowly been beaten over the head in the last year, in all for race's. wonder if Ammar are next on the nerf baits list of doom, how much worse can they make it. we will know in a year or so.
Aah, the convenient selective memory and thinking strikes again.
Amarr Recons are STRONGER after the NOS nerf. The switch to using cap injected Neutralizers kills cap ten times as fast as before, a godsend in the age of The Gank. Add to that the Tracking Disruptor bonus now that speeds have slowed and tracking/range has become more important than other factors, not to mention the AB Pigrim is having a field day killing things left and right.
Have you had your lovely MWD fitted HAC scrambled from beyond 15km yet, I hate that range bonus with a vengeance. Damps are very situational now, but can be very effective when those situations arise. Otherwise I agree, the <8km lock range damp on a BS was nice .. unbalanced but nice
Web strength reduction biggest impact to Matar recons was to remove the Rapier as a solo-pwnmobile. It is still doable but requires a lot more thought (ie. drop a LSE for 2nd web). The Matar Recons did get an indirect BOOST from the much higher value of Target Painting after the missile formula and speeds were changed, no one to blame but the pilots if they choose not to utilise it.
ECM has not been altered yet, last change was the halving of strength to get rid of "ECM in all empty mids" paradigm. Proposed changes will reduce overall power of Caldari Recons, but the option to have godly range is still there it just requires some hard sacrifices. The same type of sacrifices/choices the other races have had to make since the dawn of Eve.
I just wish CCP would set up an eWar task-force to figure out what exactly they want it to be able to do and redesign all eWar boats to fit the concept. Too much "1 step forward, 2 steps back" involved in the balancing of it now.
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