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KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
683
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:16:00 -
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So be antisocial, no one cares. Enjoy EVE Lite. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |
Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Mordus Angels
152
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:29:00 -
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To have real trust betrayal must be an option.
First rule of EVE isn't to trust no one. First rule of EVE is to not undock what you aren't willing to lose.
Do you really think that those massive SOV holding entities can function without trust? Trust is an inherent property of Null sec life. Trust is what holds a group together when the trust is lost is when it tends to fall apart.
The whole point of playing an MMO is to socialize. To make friends to kill the time we're here on this earth in an enjoyable manner. This requires trust, and because there are no external forces enforcing that trust the trust has to be real.
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Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
362
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:31:00 -
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Op likes playing with himself. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1710
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Posted - 2012.05.01 14:43:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:To have real trust betrayal must be an option.
First rule of EVE isn't to trust no one. First rule of EVE is to not undock what you aren't willing to lose.
Do you really think that those massive SOV holding entities can function without trust? Trust is an inherent property of Null sec life. Trust is what holds a group together when the trust is lost is when it tends to fall apart.
The whole point of playing an MMO is to socialize. To make friends to kill the time we're here on this earth in an enjoyable manner. This requires trust, and because there are no external forces enforcing that trust the trust has to be real.
Indeed.
The most difficult (and perhaps most important) skill in EVE is to be able to tell who you CAN trust, and exactly how far.
People that are skillful in this area are able to form large, successful organizations that can project their will over vast area's.
People that are not tend to either be limited to the most basic game play available, or if successful for a time end up losing it all in the end.
EVE is all about trust, actually. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
349
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Posted - 2012.05.01 15:41:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:The whole point of playing an MMO is to socialize. To make friends to kill the time we're here on this earth in an enjoyable manner.
Can you accept that others may not view this the same way as you? I certainly appreciate that allot of people have made friends through eve and I think that is great. But its not "the whole point" of playing a computer mmo.
I play an mmo so that I can fly a spaceship in a virtual world that is not created by a computer script or ai. I interact with other people as opposed to a computer ai. Which is a big part of what makes eve great. But I would hardly call every interaction in eve "socializing." And certainly most of the interactions do not involve "making friends."
If I want to socialize and make friends, I tend to do other things that usually do not involve sitting in front of a computer screen.
But frankly I have plenty of friends and often can't find the time, to spend with the friends I already have, let alone want to "kill time" finding new ones through the internet. No I just think playing eve is better than the next best option to have some fun after work - e.g., watching tv.
Seriously people harping about socializing all the time makes the game seem like some pathetic sort of dating service or "friend service." That is not "the whole point" of playing a computer game. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Josef Djugashvilis
131
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:11:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:I'm not antisocial, I just realise that the vast majority of people on this planet are clueless ******* morons whom I refuse to interact with in a positive manner.
Try not to post whilst high from inhaling your own ego.
Having said that, you do provide good information in the Help Channel. You want fries with that? |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:25:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Aren't you being social just by posting this thread for everyone to see?
If you were really antisocial, you'd keep your brain farts to yourself.
Why would I do that? This is EVE-O the sewer of the internet.
Well I hear thats SA or 4 chan but still
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Endear
And Beyond ...
8
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Posted - 2012.05.01 16:49:00 -
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Someone who doesnGÇÖt enjoy socializing at parties might be described as either GÇ£asocialGÇ¥ or GÇ£antisocial,GÇÖ but GÇ£asocialGÇ¥ is too mild a term to describe someone who commits an antisocial act like planting a bomb. GÇ£AsocialGÇ¥ suggests indifference to or separation from society, whereas GÇ£antisocialGÇ¥ more often suggests active hostility toward society.
http://theactionspeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/themoreyouknow.jpg |
Thallius Dark
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:08:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:I'm not antisocial, I just realise that the vast majority of people on this planet are clueless ******* morons whom I refuse to interact with in a positive manner. Protip: most of the people who think this are, in fact, clueless ******* morons themselves. you don't know everything (or even very much). any intelligent person knows this. assuming others are morons for not knowing the same things you do, while not attempting to find out what they do know, is the mark of an idiot - and being so socially incompetent that you withdraw entirely is the mark of a coward. It's about not being the average peer pressure moron who falls for politics, commercials, the media and enjoys being a passive follower. People who show a glimpse of intelligence (which is not the same as knowing stuff) I'll happily interact with.
From my experience a lot of players are as socially retarted as this guy, it's not that they don't want to properly interact with people but that they are incapable of it..... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1713
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:11:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Skex Relbore wrote:The whole point of playing an MMO is to socialize. To make friends to kill the time we're here on this earth in an enjoyable manner.
Can you accept that others may not view this the same way as you? I certainly appreciate that allot of people have made friends through eve and I think that is great. But its not "the whole point" of playing a computer mmo. I play an mmo so that I can fly a spaceship in a virtual world that is not created by a computer script or ai. I interact with other people as opposed to a computer ai. Which is a big part of what makes eve great. But I would hardly call every interaction in eve "socializing." And certainly most of the interactions do not involve "making friends." If I want to socialize and make friends, I tend to do other things that usually do not involve sitting in front of a computer screen. But frankly I have plenty of friends and often can't find the time, to spend with the friends I already have, let alone want to "kill time" finding new ones through the internet. No I just think playing eve is better than the next best option to have some fun after work - e.g., watching tv. Seriously people harping about socializing all the time makes the game seem like some pathetic sort of dating service or "friend service." That is not "the whole point" of playing a computer game.
I have to admit that this is true. While being able to work with others is very important (but not mandatory), that has a bit different meaning than "socializing".
Socializing implies a freindly interaction. There are many CEO's, Alliance leaders or officers, etc. that really don't get into socializing in EVE, however they excel at interacting effectively with other players. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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Skex Relbore
Space Exploitation Inc Mordus Angels
156
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Posted - 2012.05.01 17:29:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
I have to admit that this is true. While being able to work with others is very important (but not mandatory), that has a bit different meaning than "socializing".
Socializing implies a freindly interaction. There are many CEO's, Alliance leaders or officers, etc. that really don't get into socializing in EVE, however they excel at interacting effectively with other players.
People play for what ever reason they please however they please. But it's an established fact of online gaming that longevity strongly correlates with social interactions. Of course I don't make the automatic association of socializing with friendly interactions. Socializing to me generally indicates cordial relations. But I kind of mean the whole spectrum of human social interactions.
Those CEO's and alliance leaders you mention may not spend a lot of time socializing with the line grunts but I guaranty you that they do so with their fellow CEO's and Directors as well as often with their "Enemies". You know the real secret to Goon's success? They understand this dynamic. Which is why the first thing they do with a new member is get them a mentor, then they have different squads to push people into social groups which all encourages building those relationships that will maintain interest long after the game mechanics become dull. .
I don't have a problem with people who want to play differently than I, if you want to pretend that EVE is a single player game with a very advanced AI, have fun with that, But you are missing out on a huge part of what makes online gaming fun and emotionally rewarding. Which to my mind is kind of missing the point of playing an MMO. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1716
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:48:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
I have to admit that this is true. While being able to work with others is very important (but not mandatory), that has a bit different meaning than "socializing".
Socializing implies a freindly interaction. There are many CEO's, Alliance leaders or officers, etc. that really don't get into socializing in EVE, however they excel at interacting effectively with other players.
People play for what ever reason they please however they please. But it's an established fact of online gaming that longevity strongly correlates with social interactions. Of course I don't make the automatic association of socializing with friendly interactions. Socializing to me generally indicates cordial relations. But I kind of mean the whole spectrum of human social interactions. Those CEO's and alliance leaders you mention may not spend a lot of time socializing with the line grunts but I guaranty you that they do so with their fellow CEO's and Directors as well as often with their "Enemies". You know the real secret to Goon's success? They understand this dynamic. Which is why the first thing they do with a new member is get them a mentor, then they have different squads to push people into social groups which all encourages building those relationships that will maintain interest long after the game mechanics become dull. . I don't have a problem with people who want to play differently than I, if you want to pretend that EVE is a single player game with a very advanced AI, have fun with that, But you are missing out on a huge part of what makes online gaming fun and emotionally rewarding. Which to my mind is kind of missing the point of playing an MMO.
On a personal level I very much agree. I like socializing in EVE, and I think it is a very strong motivator for people to continue to enjoy playing. Hell even mining can be entertaining if done with a group of fairly witty and interesting corp mates.
My point is that it is not a necessary element for everyone, nor should it be considered "the point of the game". The point of the game is to have fun, and odd as it may seem to you and I some people don't enjoy socializing... and frankly they should not be criticized for having that mind set.
Just as long as they realize that the game mechanics are built with socializing and group play in mind, and don't complain that more single (read loner) player content isn't available. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill EVE Animal Control
271
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:53:00 -
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MMORPG
Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game.
There are other people to interact with in EVE. If you try to avoid interacting with other players then you shouldn't complain considering you have the option to and are encouraged to do so.
If you are just going to run missions, only seeing other players when you undock from the station then you are better off playing another game. There are much better options out there if you just want to kill NPCs. |
Bane Necran
395
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Posted - 2012.05.01 19:55:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:antisocial personality disorder
There's a rather large difference.
People with that disorder actually cannot stand being alone. They need to be around people constantly, and are social parasites. They're named that because they are destructive to social structures. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Master Gotama
Black Sky Hipsters
4
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:10:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:A conscience would be a liability if youre a ganker, pirate, scammer, pretty much any lucrative profession in EVE in RP anyways.
not sure if you're aware, but these aren't very lucrative. more like the best bang for the buck. |
Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:22:00 -
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Endear wrote:Someone who doesnGÇÖt enjoy socializing at parties might be described as either GÇ£asocialGÇ¥ or GÇ£antisocial,GÇÖ but GÇ£asocialGÇ¥ is too mild a term to describe someone who commits an antisocial act like planting a bomb. GÇ£AsocialGÇ¥ suggests indifference to or separation from society, whereas GÇ£antisocialGÇ¥ more often suggests active hostility toward society. http://theactionspeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/themoreyouknow.jpg
So... its bad to be 0.0 ppl then? They seem to hate highsec and they bear an "active hostility toward society". Where society here is where the most ppl are and there was that CCP that tweeted that 71% of the game is in highsec... I think that qualifies?
ßâÜ(a¦át¢èa¦áßâÜ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past" |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1152
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:24:00 -
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Amanda Holland wrote: So... its bad to be 0.0 ppl then? They seem to hate highsec and they bear an "active hostility toward society". Where society here is where the most ppl are and there was that CCP that tweeted that 71% of the game is in highsec... I think that qualifies?
Funny, last I checked, 0.0 alliances are based on the communities they represent and rely entirely on their strength and resilience under pressure. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Amanda Holland
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:26:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:MMORPG
Massive MULTIPLAYER Online Role Playing Game.
There are other people to interact with in EVE. If you try to avoid interacting with other players then you shouldn't complain considering you have the option to and are encouraged to do so.
If you are just going to run missions, only seeing other players when you undock from the station then you are better off playing another game. There are much better options out there if you just want to kill NPCs.
But I like THIS game and if I choose not to talk to ppl I will. Doesnt "sandbox gaming' mean you dont get to tell me how I will play the game as there IS NO "right answer"? Or are one of those people who will anyways?
ßâÜ(a¦át¢èa¦áßâÜ) vroom vroom motorcycle CCP to the sandbox: "This "adapt or die" attitude is nothing new to EVE, but we want to give it a constant rhythm that is a bit more under our control than in the past" |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
158
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:27:00 -
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You don't need to be a one man band to be anti-social. I'd view Goons as anti-social. They are an invert, xenophobic alliance who see everyone not under their boot as a threat. They also fully expect people to hate them so they get it.
If you feel some driven need to be anti-social, go for it. Just don't be surprised when people don't really like you. That's kind of the point and end goal of anti-social behavior? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1724
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:33:00 -
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Quote:They are an invert, xenophobic alliance who see everyone not under their boot as a threat.
Welp, that pretty much sums up most organizations in EVE, not matter what sec level they reside in. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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FeralShadow
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
101
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:34:00 -
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Degren wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:It is plain stupid to be antisocial in a multiplayer game. You are not only limiting your options, but your potential. Being social does not require complete trust.
"A man without friends is a man without power." @OP: The best point was already made, and you dismissed it. I hope you enjoy playing solo.
Akirei has wisdom. Not everybody is out to get you. As a matter of fact being good friends with some select few will offer you a nice shield between you and getting ripped off. I have *counts on one hand* 5 people I trust completely in this game, and we've flown together for years. We, as a group, distrust everybody else, but because we're all together in our distrust, we protect each other. "I do believe in karma. -áThat means that whenever I do something sh**y to others, they somehow deserved it." |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1062
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Posted - 2012.05.01 20:35:00 -
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RL has the same problems. You can get ripped off pretty bad and betrayed just as easily IRL. But life sucks alone....at least for normal people that the usual psychological need for human interaction.
EVE is simply an extension of it and so it the internet as a whole. The Drake is a Lie |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
352
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Posted - 2012.05.01 21:38:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:People play for what ever reason they please however they please. But it's an established fact of online gaming that longevity strongly correlates with social interactions. .
I'm not sure what sort of established fact you claim here.
I know ccp found that people who joined player corps quickly tended to stay in the game longer. Perhaps they found that people who had real life friends in the game stuck around longer too. But what conclusions can we draw?
Well it may be that if several people who are in my real life social group are playing eve and they introduce me to it I will likely join their corp right away. I will also be more likely to stay in the game because I have friends in the game. But this is true of any game regardless of whether the game itself pushes social interaction. If all my friends played poker I would be more likely to play poker as well. I tend to think someone at ccp read something and jumped to all sorts of unwarranted conclusions.
That said certainly a game company might want your life to revolve around their game. They may want you to build your friendships in game, at the expense of friendships out of game. (With time being finite that is inevitable) Its easy to see why this might appeal to a game company.
But lets set aside the question on whether this is healthy for the players. Is it good for the game company? What sort of people will be attracted to their game? When people think of an eve online player will they imagine well adjusted people who have a life outside of a computer game? Or will they imagine someone else? How does this image work for promoting the game?
Is it possible that eve is suffering because the gameplay is unrealistically skewed toward numbers advantage = iwin? If someone says they will cut my lawn with three friends, I will not pay them more than if he does it alone. Yet look at how incusions pay.
Do the countries with the most people always have the most powerful militaries? Well in eve thanks to nerfs to supers and other mechanics that is pretty much the case.
Might EVE have a much larger base if it offered game play opportunities that didn't require "killing time" socializing with others?
I think what skex says is true for the beloved sov null sec. In eve you can be a pawn for someone who has all day to develop good friendships in a null sec alliance. Or you can set your real life aside and do that yourself.
Of course that is just the sov null sec part of the game. You can also do the small scale pvp stuff of low sec and be ignored by ccp - or worse have ccp announce that they want to change your game play to be more like sov null sec.
Again I am not saying dumb the game down. Indeed the game is dumbed down most when one side just blobs the other. Keep the game interesting but realize that most people don't look to mmos as a "friendship service" and forcing that down everyones throat is not good for the game.
Skex Relbore wrote: I don't have a problem with people who want to play differently than I, if you want to pretend that EVE is a single player game with a very advanced AI, have fun with that, But you are missing out on a huge part of what makes online gaming fun and emotionally rewarding. .
No one thinks this is a single player game. Its also not just a "team play" game. It is a virtual universe with thousands of people doing different things in that same universe. That is one of the things that makes it great.
A perfect mmo is not one where everyone is friends and plays together as a team. A perfect mmo is one where there is no need for any sort of computer ai to do anything in the game. Eve is substantially there. Given the constraints of it being a game, eliminating all the computer ai functions would not be good.
If you want to team up with folks you can.
Of course, if you develop real friendships in game it will be more emotionally rewarding than if you don't. But that is because friendships are emotionally rewarding. Its not that friendships that you make over the internet are somehow inherently more rewarding than friendships you make with people you meet in person. So you can choose to spend time socializing in game or in person and you will be emotionally rewarded with friendships.
Skex Relbore wrote:Which to my mind is kind of missing the point of playing an MMO.
Yeah you said the whole point of playing an mmo was to socialize and make friends. I'm just saying that is not really true for everyone. For me an mmo is a "better than television" alternative, even if I don't have time to kill socializing. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
352
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:05:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Skex Relbore wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
I have to admit that this is true. While being able to work with others is very important (but not mandatory), that has a bit different meaning than "socializing".
Socializing implies a freindly interaction. There are many CEO's, Alliance leaders or officers, etc. that really don't get into socializing in EVE, however they excel at interacting effectively with other players.
People play for what ever reason they please however they please. But it's an established fact of online gaming that longevity strongly correlates with social interactions. Of course I don't make the automatic association of socializing with friendly interactions. Socializing to me generally indicates cordial relations. But I kind of mean the whole spectrum of human social interactions. Those CEO's and alliance leaders you mention may not spend a lot of time socializing with the line grunts but I guaranty you that they do so with their fellow CEO's and Directors as well as often with their "Enemies". You know the real secret to Goon's success? They understand this dynamic. Which is why the first thing they do with a new member is get them a mentor, then they have different squads to push people into social groups which all encourages building those relationships that will maintain interest long after the game mechanics become dull. . I don't have a problem with people who want to play differently than I, if you want to pretend that EVE is a single player game with a very advanced AI, have fun with that, But you are missing out on a huge part of what makes online gaming fun and emotionally rewarding. Which to my mind is kind of missing the point of playing an MMO. On a personal level I very much agree. I like socializing in EVE, and I think it is a very strong motivator for people to continue to enjoy playing. Hell even mining can be entertaining if done with a group of fairly witty and interesting corp mates. My point is that it is not a necessary element for everyone, nor should it be considered "the point of the game". The point of the game is to have fun, and odd as it may seem to you and I some people don't enjoy socializing... and frankly they should not be criticized for having that mind set. Just as long as they realize that the game mechanics are built with socializing and group play in mind, and don't complain that more single (read loner) player content isn't available.
Good post - except that last sentence. Why can't the game be built as just a virtual world where you are interacting with thousands of others? Why do the mechanics have to be "built with socializing and group play in mind"?
I guess a plain old sandbox is preferable to me. I don't see why they have to force these biases toward socializing into the game. People who want to socialize, will still socialize without the biases. People who don't want to make that time commitment shouldn't be forced to.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:17:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:RL has the same problems. You can get ripped off pretty bad and betrayed just as easily IRL. But life sucks alone....at least for normal people that the usual psychological need for human interaction.
EVE is simply an extension of it and so it the internet as a whole.
lol so you buy into the argument that what ppl do here or on the net theyd do IRL?
IE Im nuts here so I must be nuts IRL |
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:27:00 -
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Though playing EVE by yourself can be very rewarding - from the perspective of reaching accomplishments without the backing of a well oiled corporation or alliance - it's also limiting your potential of experiencing a large portion of the game. For many players fun is derived from aspects of the metagame and for that you need to be involved in the community.
Sure everyone you meet ingame is a potential asshat, but not everyone necessarily is. You can trust people and still hold reservations as to how far that trust goes. The only people that really need to watch their backs are the CEO's of corporations, the regular grunts like you and I just need some common sense.
But if you DO decide to play by yourself, there really are better single player games involving spaceships. Worse too, but that's another story. Signature added by Adalun Dey. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
352
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:11:00 -
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Adalun Dey wrote:Though playing EVE by yourself can be very rewarding - from the perspective of reaching accomplishments without the backing of a well oiled corporation or alliance - it's also limiting your potential of experiencing a large portion of the game. For many players fun is derived from aspects of the metagame and for that you need to be involved in the community.
Sure everyone you meet ingame is a potential asshat, but not everyone necessarily is. You can trust people and still hold reservations as to how far that trust goes. The only people that really need to watch their backs are the CEO's of corporations, the regular grunts like you and I just need some common sense.
I am not sure what you would consider an "accomplishment." Actually I often wonder what I would like to "accomplish" myself in this game. I am not sure exactly what it is but it certainly does not involve being a grunt and its unlikely I will be able to dedicate the time necessary to run a large alliance.
Adalun Dey wrote: But if you DO decide to play by yourself, there really are better single player games involving spaceships.
I will politely say: I strongly doubt this.
What spaceship mmo has a persistant universe with a realistic ecomony on a single shard? No other computer game, spaceship or not, even comes close to eve IMO. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Son IamaDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.05.02 01:19:00 -
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I think people confuse antisocial and social avoidance way too much.
Antisocial behavior is described as that lacks concern for others and may cause damage in society. Generally doesn't care about the well-being of others. Which is what EVE generally is in a nutshell. Yet generally individuals never act out in such ways when it comes to 'real life.' Always interesting.
Social avoidance is when an individual simply doesn't want to interact with other peers. |
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.05.02 23:52:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Adulun Dey wrote:But if you DO decide to play by yourself, there really are better single player games involving spaceships. I will politely say: I strongly doubt this. What spaceship mmo has a persistant universe with a realistic ecomony on a single shard? No other computer game, spaceship or not, even comes close to eve IMO.
Single player games aren't MMO's. You play them by yourself, hence the emphasis on 'single' player. And in that regard Egosoft's franchise seems like a good example with a massive universe of its own and with similar career paths to pursue. Signature added by Adalun Dey. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
381
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:12:00 -
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TWHC Assistant wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:... Your face looks as if someone had held it over a BBQ grill. I like it.
I like the pose...it's like him going out the door, but then suddenly stopping and saying to himself, "Did I leave the faucet on in the tub?" He listens intently to ascertain the answer... To call me a Carebear is a misnomer...while it is true that I am hairy like a bear (or two russian women), I really don't care.-á Like, at all.-á Call me an Apathybear.-á Just don't call if you need assistance. |
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