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markol
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:26:00 -
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I am a pirate . Albeit a n00b pirate. I have gotten into the pirate game quite recently and still learning the tricks. I have killed/ransomed a dozen frigates, a few cruisers and 2 BS. What I find however is that my set-up sux worse than a hooker in New Jersey.
This is what I have now: 4x Neutorn blasters. 2x Ion balsters. 1x Large named SB. 1x cruise launcher 2x 7500m warp scrambler, 1x webber, 1x MWD 1x Large armor, 1x thermal armor hard, 1x CPU, 3x relays
The need for all this firepower is that I want to be able to take down a BS before he can say "OMGWTF A PIRATE!" Just in case I have him scrambled and an army division worth of friends come into local. He will need to die and I move on.
SB is obviously for the purposes of podding people. I do not have time to sit around and wait for the pod to get locked. Just punch the SB and the frozen corpse comes out like a jack-in-the-box. I like to demonstrate presense of SB to people just so that they will be certain I mean it when I ransom their pod and not their frig.
The main problem with this setup is that I cannot run even my defenses indefinetly. I run out of cap. By defenses I mean contineously scrambling and webbing with all ew stuff and runing armor hardener and repairer at the same time. If I run my guns at that time too, then my cap will just evaporate.
Any help would be much apreciated.
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markol
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:26:00 -
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I am a pirate . Albeit a n00b pirate. I have gotten into the pirate game quite recently and still learning the tricks. I have killed/ransomed a dozen frigates, a few cruisers and 2 BS. What I find however is that my set-up sux worse than a hooker in New Jersey.
This is what I have now: 4x Neutorn blasters. 2x Ion balsters. 1x Large named SB. 1x cruise launcher 2x 7500m warp scrambler, 1x webber, 1x MWD 1x Large armor, 1x thermal armor hard, 1x CPU, 3x relays
The need for all this firepower is that I want to be able to take down a BS before he can say "OMGWTF A PIRATE!" Just in case I have him scrambled and an army division worth of friends come into local. He will need to die and I move on.
SB is obviously for the purposes of podding people. I do not have time to sit around and wait for the pod to get locked. Just punch the SB and the frozen corpse comes out like a jack-in-the-box. I like to demonstrate presense of SB to people just so that they will be certain I mean it when I ransom their pod and not their frig.
The main problem with this setup is that I cannot run even my defenses indefinetly. I run out of cap. By defenses I mean contineously scrambling and webbing with all ew stuff and runing armor hardener and repairer at the same time. If I run my guns at that time too, then my cap will just evaporate.
Any help would be much apreciated.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:40:00 -
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If you ever encounter a MWD fitted megathron with rails, or a blasterthron, your lack of kinetic hardener will be...unfortunate Also, I'm not sure 2 scramblers are necessary. One will be enough for most of those you'll hunt, and for those who fitted WCS on thier lows, chances are that half of them will have 4 or more, just in case.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:40:00 -
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If you ever encounter a MWD fitted megathron with rails, or a blasterthron, your lack of kinetic hardener will be...unfortunate Also, I'm not sure 2 scramblers are necessary. One will be enough for most of those you'll hunt, and for those who fitted WCS on thier lows, chances are that half of them will have 4 or more, just in case.
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2004.08.20 22:49:00 -
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7 Miner 2s
1 Roid scanner 3 Tech 2 Cap Chargers
7 Beta Hull Mods
and go, "Yarrrrrrr," in the mirror a few times before sitting down to mine a roid field. As an option, put on some Yani in the background. -----
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2004.08.20 22:49:00 -
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7 Miner 2s
1 Roid scanner 3 Tech 2 Cap Chargers
7 Beta Hull Mods
and go, "Yarrrrrrr," in the mirror a few times before sitting down to mine a roid field. As an option, put on some Yani in the background. -----
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:03:00 -
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Blasterthrons absolutely require mwd. The penalty to use them is just too much.
But how can you remove the penalty of mwd's for blasterthrons and not the non-fighters who'd take advantage of this to fly around empire and mine with mwd equipped and enjoying the benefits? Hmmm...
I personally love my mega with blasters, but I just can't find a PvP setup im happy with.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Plasmatique
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:03:00 -
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Blasterthrons absolutely require mwd. The penalty to use them is just too much.
But how can you remove the penalty of mwd's for blasterthrons and not the non-fighters who'd take advantage of this to fly around empire and mine with mwd equipped and enjoying the benefits? Hmmm...
I personally love my mega with blasters, but I just can't find a PvP setup im happy with.
..................................... Proud Owner of a Navy Issue Raven
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:08:00 -
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Im Currently running
But remeber i have 6mil SP in gunnery With Gal BS 5 and L hybrid 5 Highs: 7 regulated Ions and a Heavy nosfurto Meds: Quad Lif MWD, Webbie,7.5 Scramble, Named Heavy Cap booster(800) Lows: L Accomo armor rep, 2x hardners, 2x mag backup 2's, 1600 tungston,cap relay.
You can change the low backup array's to 2x dammage mods or stabs you prefrence
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Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Phonix
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:08:00 -
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Im Currently running
But remeber i have 6mil SP in gunnery With Gal BS 5 and L hybrid 5 Highs: 7 regulated Ions and a Heavy nosfurto Meds: Quad Lif MWD, Webbie,7.5 Scramble, Named Heavy Cap booster(800) Lows: L Accomo armor rep, 2x hardners, 2x mag backup 2's, 1600 tungston,cap relay.
You can change the low backup array's to 2x dammage mods or stabs you prefrence
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Notferr has been pwned by CCP..
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix Im Currently running
But remeber i have 6mil SP in gunnery With Gal BS 5 and L hybrid 5 Highs: 7 regulated Ions and a Heavy nosfurto Meds: Quad Lif MWD, Webbie,7.5 Scramble, Named Heavy Cap booster(800) Lows: L Accomo armor rep, 2x hardners, 2x mag backup 2's, 1600 tungston,cap relay.~
You can change the low backup array's to 2x dammage mods or stabs you prefrence
I would loose the plates and fit a 3rd hardener or a T2 med repairer ......but that's me talking... -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix Im Currently running
But remeber i have 6mil SP in gunnery With Gal BS 5 and L hybrid 5 Highs: 7 regulated Ions and a Heavy nosfurto Meds: Quad Lif MWD, Webbie,7.5 Scramble, Named Heavy Cap booster(800) Lows: L Accomo armor rep, 2x hardners, 2x mag backup 2's, 1600 tungston,cap relay.~
You can change the low backup array's to 2x dammage mods or stabs you prefrence
I would loose the plates and fit a 3rd hardener or a T2 med repairer ......but that's me talking... -------------------
Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:48:00 -
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Instead of 2nd scrambler heavy use cap injector.
Take out a couple of relays and put T2 mag stabs.
Replace your mix of neut/ion blaster with ion/electrons. With 2 mag stabs your damage output will stay similar. Also use named ions/electrons, saw them cheap on escrow to add to damage output.
What you give up is 2 of scrambling strength. But your cap problems go away. There's always tradeoff.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2004.08.20 23:48:00 -
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Instead of 2nd scrambler heavy use cap injector.
Take out a couple of relays and put T2 mag stabs.
Replace your mix of neut/ion blaster with ion/electrons. With 2 mag stabs your damage output will stay similar. Also use named ions/electrons, saw them cheap on escrow to add to damage output.
What you give up is 2 of scrambling strength. But your cap problems go away. There's always tradeoff.
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2004.08.21 07:20:00 -
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Well, you already have (not to offend anybody...) children molestor mustache slapped on so I would say you're ready to go.
Now if you only TRIED to whack me... Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2004.08.21 07:20:00 -
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Well, you already have (not to offend anybody...) children molestor mustache slapped on so I would say you're ready to go.
Now if you only TRIED to whack me... Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 12:55:00 -
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7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 12:55:00 -
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7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^ Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^ Wanna fly with me?
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^
You'd probably only need to hit the second MWD at 40km, or more, and when fighting a Raven. With these ub3r damage setups the only ships I had problems with on Chaos were Ravens when I had to start at 40km+. Sometimes I would still win but I'd have 25-5% structure left.
Empire pirates work on intimidation anyway, all you really need is a sensor booster and a few scramblers.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^
You'd probably only need to hit the second MWD at 40km, or more, and when fighting a Raven. With these ub3r damage setups the only ships I had problems with on Chaos were Ravens when I had to start at 40km+. Sometimes I would still win but I'd have 25-5% structure left.
Empire pirates work on intimidation anyway, all you really need is a sensor booster and a few scramblers.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |
Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^
You'd probably only need to hit the second MWD at 40km, or more, and when fighting a Raven. With these ub3r damage setups the only ships I had problems with on Chaos were Ravens when I had to start at 40km+. Sometimes I would still win but I'd have 25-5% structure left.
Empire pirates work on intimidation anyway, all you really need is a sensor booster and a few scramblers.
all empire pirates need are a system full of people
i wouldnt do it with 2mwd on, better warp far away and bm their cans Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
problem with 2x mwd you can easily fly to far ^^
You'd probably only need to hit the second MWD at 40km, or more, and when fighting a Raven. With these ub3r damage setups the only ships I had problems with on Chaos were Ravens when I had to start at 40km+. Sometimes I would still win but I'd have 25-5% structure left.
Empire pirates work on intimidation anyway, all you really need is a sensor booster and a few scramblers.
all empire pirates need are a system full of people
i wouldnt do it with 2mwd on, better warp far away and bm their cans Wanna fly with me?
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BlueFlame
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Posted - 2004.08.21 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: BlueFlame on 21/08/2004 20:28:20
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
tht config is the dumbest I`ve heard in months. any1 who has any tank will kill u before u kill him... so what tht u have 7 blasters... 7 dmg mods... a raven with 6 sieges and a good shieldtank will own u a lot faster then u`ll kill shield.. same applies to a scorp... just it`ll take more time for u to kill scorps shield and it`ll take more time for a scorp to own u... and u dont even have anything for anti-target jamming so I guess ur nothing more than an average n00b
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BlueFlame
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Posted - 2004.08.21 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: BlueFlame on 21/08/2004 20:28:20
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
tht config is the dumbest I`ve heard in months. any1 who has any tank will kill u before u kill him... so what tht u have 7 blasters... 7 dmg mods... a raven with 6 sieges and a good shieldtank will own u a lot faster then u`ll kill shield.. same applies to a scorp... just it`ll take more time for u to kill scorps shield and it`ll take more time for a scorp to own u... and u dont even have anything for anti-target jamming so I guess ur nothing more than an average n00b
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.08.21 20:57:00 -
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^^^
*sigh*
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Wuubaa
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Posted - 2004.08.21 20:57:00 -
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^^^
*sigh*
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 21/08/2004 22:36:40 Edited by: Alowishus on 21/08/2004 22:32:07
Originally by: BlueFlame Edited by: BlueFlame on 21/08/2004 20:28:20
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
tht config is the dumbest I`ve heard in months. any1 who has any tank will kill u before u kill him... so what tht u have 7 blasters... 7 dmg mods... a raven with 6 sieges and a good shieldtank will own u a lot faster then u`ll kill shield.. same applies to a scorp... just it`ll take more time for u to kill scorps shield and it`ll take more time for a scorp to own u... and u dont even have anything for anti-target jamming so I guess ur nothing more than an average n00b
You ******* n00b.
I have firsthand experience with these setups and I can tell you that almost everyone will lose to them in a 1v1 confrontation. I fought a Raven in an Arma with this setup:
7x Cruiser Neutron Blasters
1x MWD 1x Web 1x Scrambler
8x Magnetic Stabilizer 2
He had an Xlarge CL-5 Booster and EM, Thermal and Kinetic hardeners plus enough extenders to have 10k shields. It looked like the fight was going his way, he was into my structure before I had his shields off. Then guess what happened when he reached 0% shield? That's right, he went down in about five seconds. After he went down I actually went down because one of his torps was still in the air. That's one of the hardest battles I have fought with a high damage output setup. Think about that.
As for EW, guess what, most people aren't setup to counter a Scorp with 4x Multispecs. But a Scorp with 4x Multispec is a fleet battle setup and you don't see too many people running around like that alone because a Raven with FoFs will still wtfpwn it. Most people with Scorps run some intensive shield tank setup when alone because they are afraid to lose their ship. Let me tell you, all the shields in the world will not help you against a Gankgeddon. A Scorp with 12k shields and 4x EM/Thermal hardeners is still going to go down in 30 seconds.
Obviously if you don't know about these setups then you are just a 14-year-old n00b. Get some firsthand experience on Chaos and fighting on TQ on a daily basis, then tell me I'm wrong, child.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.21 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 21/08/2004 22:36:40 Edited by: Alowishus on 21/08/2004 22:32:07
Originally by: BlueFlame Edited by: BlueFlame on 21/08/2004 20:28:20
Originally by: Alowishus 7x Blasters with AM ammo
2x MWD 1x Sensor Booster 1x Scrambler
7x Magnetic Stab 2
You will seriously wtfpwn anything in 10 seconds (won't need to worry about cap) once you get in range. That's a real pirate setup. Tank my ass.
tht config is the dumbest I`ve heard in months. any1 who has any tank will kill u before u kill him... so what tht u have 7 blasters... 7 dmg mods... a raven with 6 sieges and a good shieldtank will own u a lot faster then u`ll kill shield.. same applies to a scorp... just it`ll take more time for u to kill scorps shield and it`ll take more time for a scorp to own u... and u dont even have anything for anti-target jamming so I guess ur nothing more than an average n00b
You ******* n00b.
I have firsthand experience with these setups and I can tell you that almost everyone will lose to them in a 1v1 confrontation. I fought a Raven in an Arma with this setup:
7x Cruiser Neutron Blasters
1x MWD 1x Web 1x Scrambler
8x Magnetic Stabilizer 2
He had an Xlarge CL-5 Booster and EM, Thermal and Kinetic hardeners plus enough extenders to have 10k shields. It looked like the fight was going his way, he was into my structure before I had his shields off. Then guess what happened when he reached 0% shield? That's right, he went down in about five seconds. After he went down I actually went down because one of his torps was still in the air. That's one of the hardest battles I have fought with a high damage output setup. Think about that.
As for EW, guess what, most people aren't setup to counter a Scorp with 4x Multispecs. But a Scorp with 4x Multispec is a fleet battle setup and you don't see too many people running around like that alone because a Raven with FoFs will still wtfpwn it. Most people with Scorps run some intensive shield tank setup when alone because they are afraid to lose their ship. Let me tell you, all the shields in the world will not help you against a Gankgeddon. A Scorp with 12k shields and 4x EM/Thermal hardeners is still going to go down in 30 seconds.
Obviously if you don't know about these setups then you are just a 14-year-old n00b. Get some firsthand experience on Chaos and fighting on TQ on a daily basis, then tell me I'm wrong, child.
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