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Indus Mono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.28 05:25:00 -
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Just wondering if there's ever been any detailed discussion of what kind of life there is scattered about universe. The Minmatar "Wolf" for instance, mentions in its description that the name was taken from a mythological beast - so I'm assuming this means Earth pre-gate collapse, and there are no actual wolves found amongst the planets of New Eden?
Probably no bears, or lions, or platypuses then either. So what is there? I'd love to know what sort of "pets" a villainous pirate might keep, or what kinds of things Gallentean children would see on a field trip to the zoo.
If anyone can provide info / point me to an article referencing said question - I would be much obliged.
Thanks,
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Yoshito Sanders
Amarr
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.03.28 06:17:00 -
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The four well-known "native" life forms are fedoes, slavers, the hanging long-limb, and furriers. A few other animal species are mentioned in game, such as these:
Achuran White Song Bird - A bird
Colelian Spider Spruce - A type of tree
Dorga - A type of sal****er fish
Yorak - another fish
It seems likely that things like "fish" are actually examples of parallel evolution rather than actually being related to fish on Earth. At least in most cases. Some animal species could have been brought to planets and released to help transform worlds to be more compatible to humans.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.28 06:26:00 -
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Birds seem to be very important in the Caldari Mythology and I think they took the names of Birds and other Animals from Caldari Prime for their Ship Names. CCP Abraxas also mentioned that the Caldari Raven does indeed exist but is a pink Bird.
I think, many Creatures from Earth do indeed exist and perhaps also from other Worlds beyond New Eden, but in most cases they were so heavily genetically engineered that they became very different to the original species.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.03.28 09:25:00 -
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This is an area I have great interest in as well.
I think that generally speaking any domesticated animal from earth was taken to New Eden.
But its what... 23341 AD now? And the Eve gate closed in 8061.
That's a lot of time for the animals to evolve and change due to humans breeding the animals, and animals adapting to new environments.
It's likely that about the same plants and animals were taken to all colonized worlds. What level of terraforming went on is unknown. Was there any life already in New Eden? There's no way to know.
Also, when were those ancient dead races like the sleepers first in New Eden? Where they here before the Eve Gate opened? If so that changes things immensely.
Are there dinosaur worlds? It's possible. Are there worlds with seas filled with monster of the deep? Maybe. Are there worlds filled with intelligent spiders writing poetry? NO!
If you're looking to write a story about a trip to an Intaki zoo. Go ahead and make things up. If it's highly detailed, reasonable and well written people may even begin to take it as true, almost cannon. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.28 11:55:00 -
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At least about the Sleepers and the other dead Civilisations is clear, they were all Humans and arrived along with the Ancestors of the current EVE Races.
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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Indus Mono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.28 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Indus Mono on 28/03/2009 16:54:11
Edited by: Indus Mono on 28/03/2009 16:53:37
Edited by: Indus Mono on 28/03/2009 16:51:20
Thanks for those links, Yoshi to.
On a side note, does anyone know if this article is cannon?
http://www.eve-benelux.be/viewtopic.php?t=1527
I ran across it searching the web, but I couldn't find the original article in EVE's official database.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Indus Mono
On a side note, does anyone know if this article is cannon?
http://www.eve-benelux.be/viewtopic.php?t=1527
I ran across it searching the web, but I couldn't find the original article in EVE's official database.
It&s certainly canon. 
Original Article
Oh, and if nobody else mentioned it, there&s 'Cattle& as well.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr
ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.28 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Oh, and if nobody else mentioned it, there&s 'Cattle& as well.
CCP Dropbear knows about the Cows! /o\
Don't ask me about the cows. |
Indus Mono
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.28 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Indus Mono
On a side note, does anyone know if this article is cannon?
http://www.eve-benelux.be/viewtopic.php?t=1527
I ran across it searching the web, but I couldn't find the original article in EVE's official database.
It&s certainly canon.
Original Article
Oh, and if nobody else mentioned it, there&s 'Cattle& as well.
Thank you!
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2009.03.28 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
CCP Abraxas also mentioned that the Caldari Raven does indeed exist but is a pink Bird.
For the record, that was me, and what I actually said can be found here.
(There are no pink ravens.)
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Veron Daerth
Amarr
Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2009.03.28 22:32:00 -
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Another thing to remember, and this is well documented, historically, but settlers to new places tend to name things after the plants and animals they are familiar with from the "old world".
For example, there are deer in Europe (referring to "red deer"), and deer in North America, and I have seen both, and let me tell you, they are not the same. The deer in Europe tend to be elk, which also exist in North America, but are specifically differentiated from deer in the North American cultures.
Also, the maple trees of North America are very different from the maple trees of Europe and Asia, and even then there are a plethora of distinct tree types that are all commonly referred to as maple, but can be both deciduous and evergreen.
The point is, people going to new places tend to carry along with them common names for both plants and animals, as well as place names and proper nouns. York (the city/town in Britain), New York (city in the USA). Jamestown, Virginia (a town named for a british king, in a state named for a british queen, in the United States of America) is also an example.
You also have to account for the way time changes languages. A really good example of this that is taken into account in the Chrons is the one Ametat and Avetat. Sefrim is clearly a bastardization of Seraphim, the latin word for a type of angel. Makes sense when you realize that according to the backstory, the Amarr are descended from the future form of the modern Catholic Church, which uses latin heavily to this day.
Time changes the way we spell and define words. So an Amarrian "rock-viper" might not be an actual snake, but can probably be passed off as some kind of poisonous lizard/reptile analogue. I have described it as such, at least, in a few of my own stories in this forum and the IGS.
Now, you have to make it plausible as well, the animal you are creating. Example:
A Bluefin Razormouth is a fishlike creature that inhabits the coastal waters of Amarr Prime. Named for both its distinctive blue coloring and the prominent dorsal and ventral ridges of flexible cartilage that run the length of its three meter body, it is the largest of the razormouth family of aquatic carnivores that are known to feed on any creature they can catch, including humans.
The ridges of cartilage along both the top and bottom of the animal support the musculature necessary to whip the rear two-thirds of its body from side to side at a very high rate, allowing the Bluefin to propel itself along at incredible speeds of up to 30 miles per hour in bursts.
Now, what I have described above is not supported by the EVE chrons or backstory or anything like that. Its basically a mix of a shark and an eel. Its plausible, and you could fit it into a story of some kind, the name and possibly a description of someone catching it and what it looks like, that sort of thing.
What I tend to do, and some of you will laugh, I am sure, is create a detailed description for every person, animal, plant, location, planet, structure, ship, etc, that I use in my stories and I keep them in a binder near my writing desk. It's a thick binder. Sometimes I print off a picture of something that I am basing my item on, (my Dawnhammer Assault shuttles are really Republic Gunships from "Star Wars: Attack of the Clones", with a few modifications made to them) to go with the written description and to help me visualize them and so describe them better. It also lets me keep my stories internally consistent.
Just a few idea's, take it how you will.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Oh, and if nobody else mentioned it, there&s 'Cattle& as well.
Thousands of years later and we still eat beef... take that PETA, Southern California hippies and India!!! |
Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.03.29 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Veron Daerth
Lottsa good stuff!
I demand you publish the binder. 
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.03.29 15:25:00 -
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i know they are machines, but would Rogue Drones be considered space wildlife? they clearly show from "thought process" what qualifies them as a "life form". and they arent too indifferent from bees, stir the hive and you are in for some hurt.
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Mr Reeth
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.03.29 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
i know they are machines, but would Rogue Drones be considered space wildlife? they clearly show from "thought process" what qualifies them as a "life form". and they arent too indifferent from bees, stir the hive and you are in for some hurt.
If I recall correctly drones do use organic components in their construction. So if you want to call them alive I won't fight you on it.
But they also show signs of intelligence. So I'm not sure if they can be considered wildlife. |
Mithfindel
Khanid Unionist Movement
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Posted - 2009.03.30 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
If I recall correctly drones do use organic components in their construction. So if you want to call them alive I won't fight you on it.
But they also show signs of intelligence. So I'm not sure if they can be considered wildlife.
There's a chron of a broken drone gone mad trying to be "reborn" of a living host, but it doesn't imply that they have organic components, just that the drone in question just had mixed up some data. (Unless there's any additional info in some missions.)
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CCP Ginger
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Posted - 2009.03.30 08:53:00 -
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Space cows, tbh.
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr
TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.30 15:37:00 -
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It may not be canon, but...
Does anyone have links to those space-whale stories someone posted a while back?
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Fothia
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Posted - 2009.04.06 00:49:00 -
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Speaking of wildlife, in this chronicle: http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=18-12-06
does anyone have any ideas as to what the creature in the forested room might be ?
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2009.04.06 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fothia
Speaking of wildlife, in this chronicle: http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=18-12-06
does anyone have any ideas as to what the creature in the forested room might be ?
A fully-grown Joke (Ofyndnus Aulabrandarus), not to be taken any more seriously than the rest of that story.
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Stitcher
Caldari
ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.06 16:14:00 -
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Caldari Prime's an interesting one. If the world was terraformed for human habitation, then the new environment would be highly inhospitable for any native species, so the odds are that the world never had an ecosystem before the Terrans came along and gave it one.
All of which implies to me that the flora and fauna on Caldari Prime would quite likely be imported Terran gene-stock vat-grown and automatically released into the wild by the terraforming engines. Real pines, ferns, mosses, lichens, shrubs, eagles, bears, wolves, and fish, just like you'd find in the cold-temperate zones of Earth such as Finland, Siberia and British Columbia. Sure, the Caldari would probably have different names for them, and the biodiversity would probably be restricted as the species not well-suited to the planet's average climate or able to adapt would likely have died off pretty quickly, but I reckon Caldari Prime and any other terraformed worlds in the cluster would actually have an abundance of animals and plants from Earth.
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