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Citizen Smif
DarK IntenTionZ Stop Exploding You Cowards
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:38:00 -
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Snooood wrote:ISD Grossvogel wrote:It turns out that *this* is the (ahem) official eveskunk.com thread; locking the other thread now. Fail
I lol'd at this |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:49:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:Hi there. it think spying should not be so easy. So i offer some information for ISK as a real spy do. He did't wanna pay: here is the spy of Romania Legion: 550732 zjsAB1YRHepkE4U75GbRk7b9POXlqJsEGFxnO0OJzJFbXYAXifNWZdAf6HDWXXdq PICI am not offical member of the page. I am only a counterspy. So the logic is that if they don't pay up, they're automatically the person that's leaking your mail to eveskunk? LOL, brilliant!
FYI, you do realize there is actually no way to check which API it is without forcing people to give you their login information to the API management page? |
Eveskunk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:07:00 -
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click at the picture |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:44:00 -
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Trolololololol
You're an idiot... Keep claiming responsibility though... maybe it'll stick!
Eveskunk is not a pay for site, nor will we ask for any ISK... PERIOD.
The moment we do the purity of the site goes out the door. I have no desire to do anything with this other than watch and get a good laugh.
Keep on going mr. counterspy! |
m Cha
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:19:00 -
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I added Pandemic Legion (-10) Api, i know it is valid api but it is not showing there. Any suggestions ? |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
1548
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:36:00 -
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m Cha wrote:I added Pandemic Legion (-10) Api, i know it is valid api but it is not showing there. Any suggestions ? Conspiracy theory says that EveSkunk is only posting mails from alliances that they want to (or, more specifically, hiding some alliances that they don't want to leak alliance mails from). |
ELECTR0FREAK
24
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Posted - 2012.05.07 01:23:00 -
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Wow, this thread is full of so much fail it's not even funny.
People getting so mad at something so easily countered. Post private crap on your alliance forums that only your members have logins to, then just link the post in your alliance mail.
If your members are being given confidential information which they're copy-pasting onto some other public website, then you need to take a look at who you're trusting and what information you're giving out. Discoverer of CCP's original missile damage formula. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.07 04:19:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:click at the picture And? Nothing special about it. Doesn't prove anything since ANYONE can just make a new API key and submit it with "MailMessages" & "MailBodies" checked.
You are literally the worst counterspy ever. Our GSF counterspy would put you to shame anyways.
You know what. Let's cut to the chase. You are dumb and bad at EVE. |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.05.07 09:43:00 -
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Just to make sure everyone is clear on our business.
We do not ask for isk. Ever.
Thank you.
Your tears are payment enough. Twitter - @eveskunk |
Spymaster Bates
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.05.07 09:45:00 -
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mxzf wrote:m Cha wrote:I added Pandemic Legion (-10) Api, i know it is valid api but it is not showing there. Any suggestions ? Conspiracy theory says that EveSkunk is only posting mails from alliances that they want to (or, more specifically, hiding some alliances that they don't want to leak alliance mails from).
I have my tinfoil hat on. Please go on. Twitter - @eveskunk |
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Eveskunk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.07 15:40:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Eveskunk wrote:click at the picture And? Nothing special about it. Doesn't prove anything since ANYONE can just make a new API key and submit it with "MailMessages" & "MailBodies" checked. You are literally the worst counterspy ever. Our GSF counterspy would put you to shame anyways. You know what. Let's cut to the chase. You are dumb and bad at EVE.
So you can make an api , with my name? cool show me!! you cannot create an api-key without the name of your char.... so if i get an valid api key , i know who is the owner...
btw GSF has more than one api registered on eveskunk ;) |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:00:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:btw GSF has more than one api registered on eveskunk ;)
I love people who try to claim responsibility :) Good troll is good!
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Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:12:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Eveskunk wrote:click at the picture And? Nothing special about it. Doesn't prove anything since ANYONE can just make a new API key and submit it with "MailMessages" & "MailBodies" checked. You are literally the worst counterspy ever. Our GSF counterspy would put you to shame anyways. You know what. Let's cut to the chase. You are dumb and bad at EVE. So you can make an api , with my name? cool show me!! you cannot create an api-key without the name of your char.... so if i get an valid api key , i know who is the owner... btw GSF has more than one api registered on eveskunk ;) What part of this do you not get? It is literally impossible to audit which API's are being used on any given account short of forcing these users to submit their login information to you.
Why? There is no limit to how many API's you can submit anywhere. I can give you 1 API and create another but they are not the same API's due to their access mask but also their verification code & key ID as well.
How come? 1) Login at https://support.eveonline.com/Pages/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fapi 2) Hit "Create API Key" 3) Select any option you want 4) Repeat #2 & #3 as many times as you want 5) Give 1 newly created key say access mask : 6295553 to an idiot like you and gives me a different newly created key w/ access mask of 6348337. I will be getting a different set of information than you will be due to the access mask being defined
Yes, it is true that they can limit which characters they want. But how do you know that is the right API key being submitted to eveskunk? You don't. You do not have access to the internal database of eveskunk which I'm sure catalogs those information due to the ingenuity behind it.
You may be "Eveskunk" but you are most definitely not the person running eveskunk anyways.
You're better off getting results by analyzing the probabilities of cars hitting you after playing in traffic.
You, sir, are no counterspy. You are a joke, a failure, an epitome of stupidity. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:13:00 -
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Aglea Toralen wrote:Eveskunk wrote:btw GSF has more than one api registered on eveskunk ;) I love people who try to claim responsibility :) Good troll is good! Because GSF is flawless and does not have 7000 spies except for his own personal spy, right? Hehehe :) |
XavierVE
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
153
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:40:00 -
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Those new DUCKS mails are golden pieces of drama.
Rage quit! - http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=312637819
Followed by less than 24 hours later, the super apology! - http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=312650583
Those Psychobitch eve-mails are great too.
http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=311194937
Highlight:
Quote:Every ships that you are flying must be called
PsychoBitch for CSM
Until the CSM election is over. Those not doing so will be fined 5 million isk per incident.
That is all...
There's a lot of potential nominations for worst alliance leader mails on EVE-skunk, but I think he would take the cake. Full list: http://www.eveskunk.com/?allianceID=448511760 |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.07 17:47:00 -
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I <3 XavierVE |
Nik W
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:14:00 -
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Aglea Toralen wrote:Enoch Throckmorton wrote:The website could use some better usability. The alliance ticker list should be in some sort of order. And the pages with the messages themselves should indicate which alliance/corp they went out to. Agreed... however there is an order, it sorts by alliance ID :) lol i know... that's not usable... but we'll figure something out in the future.
ORDER BY allianceName ASC?
Current sort method sucks. pretty minor fix. |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.08 23:42:00 -
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Nik W wrote:ORDER BY allianceName ASC? Current sort method sucks. pretty minor fix.
Ctrl-F, Type Alliance Name
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TBH
I just need to rewrite the script a little so that it looks up the alliance name before it puts it into the database. Right now, I'm just taking the data from the api, the ToCorpOrAlliance field, and that's a numeric identifier. So to be quite honest, I'm already sorting it ascending, just by the IP rather than the name. We'll rewrite it hopefully and it'll be nicer.
-Ag |
Eveskunk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:49:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Eveskunk wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Eveskunk wrote:click at the picture And? Nothing special about it. Doesn't prove anything since ANYONE can just make a new API key and submit it with "MailMessages" & "MailBodies" checked. You are literally the worst counterspy ever. Our GSF counterspy would put you to shame anyways. You know what. Let's cut to the chase. You are dumb and bad at EVE. So you can make an api , with my name? cool show me!! you cannot create an api-key without the name of your char.... so if i get an valid api key , i know who is the owner... btw GSF has more than one api registered on eveskunk ;) What part of this do you not get? It is literally impossible to audit which API's are being used on any given account short of forcing these users to submit their login information to you. Why? There is no limit to how many API's you can submit anywhere. I can give you 1 API and create another but they are not the same API's due to their access mask but also their verification code & key ID as well. How come? 1) Login at https://support.eveonline.com/Pages/Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fapi2) Hit "Create API Key" 3) Select any option you want 4) Repeat #2 & #3 as many times as you want 5) Give 1 newly created key say access mask : 6295553 to an idiot like you and gives me a different newly created key w/ access mask of 6348337. I will be getting a different set of information than you will be due to the access mask being defined Yes, it is true that they can limit which characters they want. But how do you know that is the right API key being submitted to eveskunk? You don't. You do not have access to the internal database of eveskunk which I'm sure catalogs those information due to the ingenuity behind it. You may be "Eveskunk" but you are most definitely not the person running eveskunk anyways. You're better off getting results by analyzing the probabilities of cars hitting you after playing in traffic. You, sir, are no counterspy. You are a joke, a failure, an epitome of stupidity.
nice troll, so how did i get the Api of the users? well ich cannot proof that the api is the api which is registered at eve skunk (well i cound but i would not) all i can is give you an api with the correct options from a person of an allianz that is on eve skunk, it does not matter which allianz. You can test the key only a bit. like use it so often, that the option to "get mails" is on cooldown. so eveskunk cannot use the key to update their database.
lets make a test. you call an allianz of your choise(but not goons) which has an api at eveskunk and i post the api :) |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
53
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:20:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:nice troll, so how did i get the Api of the users? well ich cannot proof that the api is the api which is registered at eve skunk (well i cound but i would not) all i can is give you an api with the correct options from a person of an allianz that is on eve skunk, it does not matter which allianz. You can test the key only a bit. like use it so often, that the option to "get mails" is on cooldown. so eveskunk cannot use the key to update their database.
lets make a test. you call an allianz of your choise(but not goons) which has an api at eveskunk and i post the api :) Troll? You can tell yourself that but you aren't the brightest light bulb here at all. I don't think you even know what the definition of a troll is anyways.
Now, you cannot prove who has the offending API that is being used unless you broadcast an alliance email repeatedly saying "Test #1" "Test #2" "Test #3", etc and kick a corporation at a time to get to the one that isn't being rebroadcasted on Eveskunk. Until you found the offending corporation, you can tell the CEO of that corporation to repeat that again to find the offending member. Now take my alliance for example. We have 7000 members, 30+ corporations within the alliance. It will take 150 minutes to figure out the offending corporation but it will most likely be GoonWaffe which has 3855 members which can take up to 19,275 minutes to figure out or 2 weeks as well as up to 19275 emails.
Another scenario is having all your members delete their old API keys and removing the two offending options that eveskunk depends on. Of course, alot of them won't do that because they're too lazy to nor will they give you their account information as that is already illegal under game rules. |
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Eveskunk
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.10 06:49:00 -
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well , you did not explain how it is possible for me to get the valid api of a member of an allianz, that posted on eveskunk. and you can test the member i call. 1.you can revoke his rights to read allianz mails(i did not know if it is possible) or you can use his api so often that eveskunk cannot use it. 2.send testmail 3. oh wow no alli mails posted on eve skunk.
it simplyfies the tests :) |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:34:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:well , you did not explain how it is possible for me to get the valid api of a member of an allianz, that posted on eveskunk. and you can test the member i call. 1.you can revoke his rights to read allianz mails(i did not know if it is possible) or you can use his api so often that eveskunk cannot use it. 2.send testmail 3. oh wow no alli mails posted on eve skunk.
it simplyfies the tests :) No, you can't. You do not know the API that is being used to extract alliance mails. That person you grabbed and claimed he was the spy? You have no proof whatsoever that he or someone else was the one that submitted it. That's the whole point of the website. I'm good at what I do in the game so I'm able to get craploads of API's from people who checkboxed every option. Know what I did with them? I submitted them all to eveskunk :) |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:35:00 -
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Eveskunk wrote:well , you did not explain how it is possible for me to get the valid api of a member of an allianz, that posted on eveskunk. and you can test the member i call. 1.you can revoke his rights to read allianz mails(i did not know if it is possible) or you can use his api so often that eveskunk cannot use it. 2.send testmail 3. oh wow no alli mails posted on eve skunk.
it simplyfies the tests :)
You are not the owner of Eve Skunk.
Also, try a spell checker next time. |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:35:00 -
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And not to mention that you are 100% completely wrong. |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:44:00 -
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(11:39:25 AM) EnderCapitalG: the person named Eve Skunk is not an owner of the site (11:39:28 AM) EnderCapitalG: I'm 99% sure (11:39:44 AM) EnderCapitalG: the 2 people who brought it to the forums to talk about it can actually write english (11:39:52 AM) EnderCapitalG: instead of gernglish |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:44:00 -
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He IS German, right? Our resident German diagnosed him as so. I apologize for this horrible ailment upon you. |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:29:00 -
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As much as it pains me to agree with the Goons, they are correct. BTW, WE HAVE STANDINGS PUBLISHED NOW!
http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.php
CHECK IT! |
Jessie42
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:34:00 -
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Saw that earlier, it's pretty slick. |
Aglea Toralen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:39:00 -
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Jessie42 wrote:Saw that earlier, it's pretty slick.
Why thank you... *tear* :) LOL
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Matalok
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
49
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Posted - 2012.05.11 11:44:00 -
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all on one page, the pain.
Very nice, and very useful. Would be nice to get a dump of this so I can try some social mapping and give a visual representation of the weird web of EVE standings. |
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