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Mendolence
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:26:00 -
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My apologies for sounding noobish, but...
I heard recently that a section of the Providence region is, generally speaking, open to all comers. Who has sovereignty out there? Do you have to request permission? Anyone have any experiences in Providence they care to relate?
Thanks in advance.
-M
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SR65
Amarr Core Impulse PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:32:00 -
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Providence is ran mostly by CVA, PXF, and LFA alliances. They all have sov here. They operate on a NRDS (not red dont shoot) policy. So if you're blue or neutral to them, they will leave you alone. If you're on their kill on sight list (like me :D ) then they will attempt to shoot you with 50:1 odds and blob with capital ships.
So you can go there and mine and rat, just can't setup POSs.
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Clocky
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:34:00 -
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If you go to Y-MPL its CVA space and is NRDS (Not Red Dont Shoot). I does not mean you wont be shot by anyone just not CVA or CVA alliance members. If in dout ask in local. When i was there they seemed pretty nice guys and gave me no problems -).
Have fun.
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Mendolence
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:37:00 -
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Thanks for the info guys.
Is it pretty crowded? Pirates pretty active?
-M
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:39:00 -
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Do keep in mind that Providence is still 0.0. This means that you are not save there. You aren't save anywhere in Eve. There are pirates, or roaming gangs of other alliances going through. (Although I will admit, Providence IS a deathtrap.) If you go there, be sure to contact the locals, get yourself known, and get into their main intel channel, so you can notice when evil people come into Providence.
Also, don't yell in local for help. Seriously, don't. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus
Also, don't yell in local for help. Seriously, don't.
shh, thats half the fun
in all seriousness, providence is a great region for newer players to try out 0.0, and even though i may come through there once in a while to shoot people, i always point some of my empire bear buddies towards CVA.
go try it, you should enjoy it _______________________
with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:44:00 -
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Providencs is a nice region, with nice guys, and about the only place where NRDS is used afaik. It lets newcommers explore 0.0, and opens up for interesting opportunities to hang with the cool guys that run the place.
But do understand, CVA runs the show there, and they make the rules, break them and you find yourself on the kill list and will be shot at and podded.
It is not safe either, pirates make incursion into CVA space and the show no quarter. So one must be able to take care of oneself, but its actually safer then low sec.
CVA truly is glorious, and I belive the Empress holds them in favour :)
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Areo Hotah
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 -
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Everybody is welcome in Providence.
Only if you are on the CVA KOS list, you will be shot. If you are not sure about your status, check here: http://www.cva-eve.org/kos/index.php (alliance first, then corp, then player) Notice: players in NPC corporations whos former corporation is KOS, are also considered KOS.
If you want to be removed from the KOS list, you can join the channel "CVA diplo" and some deal can be made (someone correct me if there needs to be a dash in there).
You are free to rat, mine and explore in every Providence system, as well as do copy, research, invent, produce, and trade in every of the 30+ stations. There are no rules that CVA or one of members of the holder alliances (Paxton, LFA, Severance, Cold Steel Alliance, Aegis Militia) can claim a belt for themselves, and ask you to leave. However, hanging around a tad too long around a gate camp makes you look suspicious, and you might get shot if you don't leave after being asked. As mentioned, putting up a POS requires special permission. Then again, with all those stations and close to empire, you don't really need one.
If you set AAA and UK red, you have the majority of the roamers who shoot everybody they can, but you are not even close to having all of the reds.
If you stay around longer, you can gain access to the intel channels keeping you updated on the position of hostiles.
CVA and all the other residents take great care to clear the space of hostiles, so generally you are pretty safe, but it is still 0.0.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 -
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Excellent region for hunting Sanshas
Win an Aeon for only 10M ISK |
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Mendolence
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 -
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Again, thanks for the info.
I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base.
My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative.
-M
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolence Again, thanks for the info.
I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base.
My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative.
-M
The main difference in 0.0 and low sec is the resources there. 0.0 got better resources, but also allowes for warp disruption bubbles, but toher then that 0.0 is nice, if you get along with the locals
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Unity Love
Caldari Knights of Destiny Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:48:00 -
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Yea all the Providence holders allow neutrals/blues and are normally actively helpful.
If you've got any questions about coming down get in touch with me, because i'm really bored :/
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 31/03/2009 20:08:52
Originally by: Mendolence Again, thanks for the info.
I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base.
My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative.
-M
Low sec is much more dangerous than Providence IMHO. The only real danger in Providence is that you get too lax, because hardly no one ever shoots at you. You could then easily fall victim to a roaming pirate.
This happened to one of my corporates yesterday as someone warped in while he was ratting and killed him. It's very easy to not be cautious enough being it's much safer than low sec. You do still have to watch local and be aware of who warped into a belt with you.
Personally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death..
On the flip side I do like what they have done there and it's cool to have a neutral friendly place in 0.0. I just wish there was a bit more action in the area. Personally I think pirates whom hunt carebears there are about the same as people whom toss out cans at noob stations.
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: crockett EXE Personally I think pirates whom hunt carebears there are about the same as people whom toss out cans at noob stations.
lol space bushido
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MinSebsis
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:26:00 -
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Place is not very safe at all.
I know, I get shot at all the time...
We come for our people!
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skye orionis
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:36:00 -
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It's a good idea to set your personal standings so that CVA/Paxton/Severance/Sylph and other affiliated alliance members are blue, and known enemies/pirates are red - AAA, UK. Then you can get a good idea from local chat who's possibly a pirate.
Some parts of Catch are also held by alliances with a NRDS policy - check the tactical maps that show sov and you can get an idea where it's safe to roam.
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Rifter Drifter
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:42:00 -
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Confirming Providence is the place to be when relaxing.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:49:00 -
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Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death..
Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:52:00 -
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you must conform to cva and her puppy Allis, it is a eve life of service to your master amarr..
you will be a good dog for cva with there Borg ideals.. good boy!
Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances...
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:03:00 -
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The Masters of Providence welcome all willing to serve them and their vile Amarrian "god". Deal with them at your own risk.
-- Becq Starforged
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Anton Marx
Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death..
Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health.
That is not true.
All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system.
Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates.
\\o
DESTROYED
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OffBeaT
Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Marx
Originally by: Furb Killer
Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death..
Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health.
That is not true.
All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system.
Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates.
\\o
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Shikome Alluin
Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 31/03/2009 21:38:02
Originally by: Anton Marx
That is not true.
All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system.
Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates.
\\o
Play nice now mr Marx :P
Originally by: skye orionis
Some parts of Catch are also held by alliances with a NRDS policy
Originally by: OffBeaT Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances...
Catch is AAA space now. /sighs, I miss you IAC
Originally by: OffBeaT you must conform to cva and her puppy Allis, it is a eve life of service to your master amarr..
you will be a good dog for cva with there Borg ideals.. good boy!
Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances...
Resistance before Amarr is Futile! We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our Corp Hangers. Your culture will adapt to service Amarr. Amarr Victory!
Originally by: Mendolence
Providence region is, generally speaking, open to all comers.
True. Im in no way an official in these matters though. So Ill let somebody with a true Amarrian voice speak on these matters.
Ps. We have been known to roleplay
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.31 22:27:00 -
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I'll chip in and say Provi is a great place to spend time. The people are friendly, Rats are pretty good.
Biggest danger is getting complacent, I hardly even bother watching local anymore (Heck, half the time I'm AFK while ratting). during GMT daytime hours there is almost no pirates to be bothered by, although it seems much more busy during GMT night.
If in doubt, come in something cheap and spend a few days, nothing to lose by trying eh? ;)
Best Ratting spots (imo) can be found in TXJ- (0.02 sec, 4 belts) and adjacent GA9P(0.04, 12 belts) Both of these systems are deep into provi, so its extremely rare for any pirates to survive it there.
Good Flying!
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Hardin
Amarr Nictus Astartes The Astral Storm
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Posted - 2009.03.31 23:29:00 -
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This website can answer some questions. The Guide and FAQ section should be useful:
http://www.cva-eve.org/
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Mutnin
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Posted - 2009.04.01 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 11:24:11 Well as a warning to any others.. It appears that the part of Providence that the "Sev3rance" alliance hold isn't friendly to neutrals. I just got popped in a frig at a lame warp bubble gate camp.
I've read about warp bubbles on the forum before, but dam that's gotta be the lamest way to get a kill I've ever seen. If that's all they can do out in 0.0 to get kills, I'll just stay in low sec where people actually hunt for their kills.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.01 11:58:00 -
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Nice place, very hostile. Good response times from CVA + pets, so dont forget your cloak.
Some areas of catch next to providence extend the NRDS ROE and are currently held by Sylph alliance and S3verance. You're safer staying within providence proper as you generally get a report of any hostiles in your area much quicker and people will come to help you out.
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Mutnin
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Posted - 2009.04.01 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 12:12:07
Originally by: Xennith Nice place, very hostile. Good response times from CVA + pets, so dont forget your cloak.
Some areas of catch next to providence extend the NRDS ROE and are currently held by Sylph alliance and S3verance. You're safer staying within providence proper as you generally get a report of any hostiles in your area much quicker and people will come to help you out.
Wave if you see me float past.
This isn't true.. I was just killed by a S3verance Alliance with a warp bubble camp gate camp, while I was otw to CVA held providence. S3verance obviously doesn't appear to honor any NRDS policy as I know this alt was not on any red lists being it's only a few weeks old.
I like what CVA does out there but S3verance might as well add me to a Red list because after what just happened.. I'll be doing my best in the future to harass those A holes. I had a bunch of BPO's I wanted to research out in CVA Providence..
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.01 12:19:00 -
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It is known that severance can sometimes be a bit trigger happy. Allthough usually the ones killed were also doing stupid things.
If you think you shouldn't have been shot you can always contact one of their diplomats, or if that doesn't work cva diplomats. If you indeed shouldn't have been shot you will be reimbursed. If you start shooting sev now you will become KOS in providence and most of amarr low sec. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Xennith
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.01 12:22:00 -
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Allegations of sev3rance shooting neutrals are not exactly new. Take it up with a sev3rance diplomat or ask CVA to approach them, but the forum is not the right place to air this kind of grievance and will only serve to harm your argument.
Easy solution of course is to just shoot sev3rance and by extension CVA etc. |
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