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Zilu Jones
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Posted - 2009.04.01 19:58:00 -
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This is for a small taranis intercepter for missions. Im still new here but is there any other reasons beside the range to take the 145mm Rails over the 75mm rails?
Thanks ZJ
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Lady Laserlance
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:17:00 -
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damage? more alpha? and a taranis for missions??
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: TimMc on 01/04/2009 20:17:30 Tracking I suppose (75mm are better, 125mm more damage)
Why you would use a taranis over an ishkur in missions is beyond me though.
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Zilu Jones
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:19:00 -
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I know a taranis sukcs for PvE but its all I have. changeing the equipment to PvE when I dont PvP. So I try to ge the best out of it in PvE aswell
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:23:00 -
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Rof: 75mm : 2.60 125mm: 3.25
Optimal: 75mm : 6km 125mm: 9km
Falloff: 75mm : 3km 125mm: 5km
Dmg multiplier: 75mm : 1.5 125mm: 2
Tracking: 75mm : 0.13 125mm: 0.085
PG: 75mm : 2MW 125mm: 7MW
CPU: 75mm : 5tf 125mm: 15tf
Cap use: 75mm : 1.67 125mm: 2.15
Capacity: 75mm : 1m3 125mm: 0.4m3
The 75mm is superior to the 125mm in RoF, Tracking, Cap use, Fitting requirements and Ammo Capacity. Simple as that really.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Zilu Jones
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 Rof: 75mm : 2.60 125mm: 3.25
Optimal: 75mm : 6km 125mm: 9km
Falloff: 75mm : 3km 125mm: 5km
Dmg multiplier: 75mm : 1.5 125mm: 2
Tracking: 75mm : 0.13 125mm: 0.085
PG: 75mm : 2MW 125mm: 7MW
CPU: 75mm : 5tf 125mm: 15tf
Cap use: 75mm : 1.67 125mm: 2.15
Capacity: 75mm : 1m3 125mm: 0.4m3
The 75mm is superior to the 125mm in RoF, Tracking, Cap use, Fitting requirements and Ammo Capacity. Simple as that really.
So what would you advise me to use for missions?
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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.01 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zilu Jones So what would you advise me to use for missions?
It depends on your play style, if you're going to be getting up close and personal with your target then blasters would suit better due to them having a higher DPS and tracking, offset by their higher fitting reqs.
Small rails are not a good choice for that ship in my opinion, I'd advise changing weapon system.
Unless of course you snipe in it, then I'd advise changing ship
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.01 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 01/04/2009 21:36:01 - 125mm use less ammo than the 75mm, but that is only a small cost factor.
- The tracking speed needed to hit a target increases geometrical the closer you get to a target. This means that for a railgun the tracking speed is of less importance than its range. Tracking speed is important for blasters.
- Some opponents in PvE use tracking disruptors, shortening your range and reducing the tracking speed. This will get you with 75mm railguns into more trouble than with 125mm. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.01 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 01/04/2009 21:29:28 depends really, what ship are you using? what strategy are you using?
For Taranins, are you in close (blasters best here btw) or snipeg far away outside disruptor range (why would you??).
75mm rock on the Harpy for instance.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.04.01 22:40:00 -
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75mm rails are mostly terrible. Not much more range than blasters, and otherwise just bad.
However, they do have the singular advantage of being insanely easy to fit, making them reasonable options on certain ships.
Wouldn't consider a Taranis one of these though - 125mm rails, or blasters IMO.
(For reference, I'd fit 75mm rails to a harpy or a cRaptor, and not much else)
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Shereza
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Posted - 2009.04.01 22:45:00 -
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Based on my own experiences with small T2 ships in L1 and L2 missions, that experience being primarily in an ishkur I'll admit, leads me to suggest you go for a setup similar to this one:
[Taranis, Missions] Small Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1MN Afterburner II Domination Stasis Webifier Cap Recharger II
125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot]
Capacitor Control Circuit I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x2
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs For Taranins, are you in close (blasters best here btw) or snipeg far away outside disruptor range (why would you??).
What would disruptor range matter on a mission ship? Actually, I suppose I should ask, "whatever the heck would disruptor range have to do with a mission ship that will likely only be used in L1 and L2 missions which almost never in my experience have warp disruptor/scrambler-equipped NPCs and regardless of that can pull 1300m/s (max skills) with a T2 afterburner meaning it can be in and out of range of said NPCs long before they're a threat?" ____________________
Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.01 22:51:00 -
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I missed the word 'mission' in ops post :P.
Thats why I brought it up ^^.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2009.04.01 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sidus Isaacs I missed the word 'mission' in ops post :P.
Thats why I brought it up ^^.
Sounds like yesterday when my mind completely blanked out when I tried to read the bold text in someone's post and didn't read a whole sentence about not wanting 15 different rat-specific ship configurations.
I still think it's a good thing that my mind automatically keeps me from reading all caps, "1337," and bold text though. ____________________
Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval. |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.02 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shereza ... Actually, I suppose I should ask, "whatever the heck would disruptor range have to do with a mission ship ..?"
You suppose wrong. Being annoyed and curious at the same time is fail. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Shereza
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Posted - 2009.04.02 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound You suppose wrong.
Last time I checked you weren't me so have no authority to make such judgement calls for me.
Originally by: Whitehound Being annoyed and curious at the same time is fail.
Then it's a good thing I was neither. ____________________
Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval. |
Laur Khal
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Posted - 2009.04.02 10:33:00 -
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the ishkur is so much better for missions, all the way up to and including L3. L4 missions possible too but depends heavily on the mission.
why on earth would you go with rails on a mission taranis though? definitely go blasters - you'll need all the DPS you can get.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.02 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shereza Then it's a good thing I was neither.
I know what you were, but I won't say it. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Allahs Warrior
Gallente I.M.M
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Posted - 2009.04.02 11:49:00 -
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uhh, unless you're fighting sleepers, use blasters?
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Kery Nysell
Caldari Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.02 14:04:00 -
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I agree that blasters would be better on a Taranis, but don't diss the 75mm rails ... I've made a setup on my Merlin/Hookbill using those in tandem with Rocket Launcher and a passive/buffer shield tank, and it works really well, even a bit faster for level 1 and 2 missions than my "sniperIskhur" ...
BUT ... you need to love to fight "up close and personnal" for those short-ranged weapons to work for you <~ sig starts here
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Shereza
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Posted - 2009.04.02 15:17:00 -
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I'd be very leary of using blasters on a ship that pulls 1300m/s with an afterburner. They'll pull superior rDPS but the orbit/tracking/range issues strike me as being potentially nightmarish. ____________________
Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval. |
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Lusian
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Posted - 2009.04.02 20:50:00 -
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good to know.
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Angus Torg
Galactic Shipyards Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.03 05:00:00 -
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As long as there is enough PG/CPU to fit 125mm railguns with the same amount of damage modifiers, then there is no need to switch to 75mm Gatling rails. But a Taranis mission setup should be able to fit 125mm railguns unless you want to put a Salvager on it. Still I prefer Blasters on my mission Tarnis (which can be used for some L4 missions as well):
3* Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Cap Recharger II 3 * Light Ion Blaster II Salvager I 2 * Capacitor Control Circuit I 2 * Warrior II Can we get EVE back? Please. |
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