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Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:56:00 -
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Thelron wrote:Both events are somewhat impressive. Both need to remain possible. Both, however, could be much more interesting if EVE-Justice were a bit longer of memory and favored more of a vigilante style lasting consequence (based largely on your current actions) rather than just popping your ship and making it annoying if you don't go farm some NPCs every so often (regardless of when you actually did "bad things).
Solid points. Why even have a security status or even Concord?
There is law, but where is the order?
Time for a Concord court system. Let's start a thread for this.
Another CCP isk sink, court fines. If Concord responds, you are charged for them having to respond. Fuel and ammo do cost. Not just the pilot, the corporation is fined.
Something the industrialist will like, a Eve tax on the corporation the criminal is a member of which will make buying things more expensive.
Another idea that interests me.
How about a TSA system at gates and stations in empire. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
458
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Posted - 2012.05.05 12:09:00 -
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Lady Zarrina wrote:Congrats to CCP for building a game that allows game play such as this. Player driven. Congrats to the null-sec'rs. They backed their words with ships and ammo (I have called them whiners in the past, but no whining here, just explosions).
I must admit, mostly being a small time trader, I avoided Jita for a few days, but these kinds of occurances are great for eve and its players. Keeps things fun and interesting.
And awesome to see the game performance was acceptable to great. Nice summary. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Online, CCP Games | Follow on: Twitter / Google+ |
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Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
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Posted - 2012.05.06 01:11:00 -
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Good lord.. I think I could vomit. If I didn't know better, I'd say that Goons are entirely made up of CCP employees. The homo-erotic softness and pure puffery every CCP employee has posted on here towards Goons, as if they are the most decent, intelligent people in the world, doing good for the game of EvE, is just sad and pathetic.
Burn Jita was a complete failure. In fact, Tritanium, the most basic measure of the market, ended up selling at a lower price after the fail-event ended than before it 'began' (as if anything really began).
I would love however, to see the totals in a few other categories..
1. Goon/Test losses vs. non-Goon/Test losses. My money is on Goons losing much more, AT LEAST 4-1 if not greater, than the players they were attempting to 'burn'.
2. Total ISK losses for Goons by means of ships destroyed and mods destroyed/dropped, time wasted.
I'd love to see CCP and Goons each take their penises out of eachothers mouths, EvE would be much more enjoyable for players who are not blindly following a sociopathic "internet lawyer".
Here's a hint for CCP. WE, the players, pay your bills. We, the players don't like Goons by a count of 5 to 1. 49,000 players voted AGAINST the sociopath and his sick, demented followers. A meager 10,000 votes (more like 2,000 - 3,000 original votes if you add up all Goon alts to puff the vote) vs. a titanic 49,000 should let you, CCP figure that out. WE DON'T LIKE THEM OR THE **** THEY TRY, emphasis on TRY, to do. |
Phoenix155
Templariorum Fortes Sins of Jericho
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Posted - 2012.05.06 01:44:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:This is exactly what separates Eve from other MMOs. Thanks to the Devs for making this possible. edit : also i'd like to use this opportunity to point out one thing, we need the ability to show a wartarget-only overview, please :( Shinzhi Xadi wrote:You CCP jerks act like goons are heroes... cheering them, and quoting them in a dev blog?? I really have no respect for you anymore, but we all know, you don't give a damn about what a high sec player thinks of you.
If your so hell bent on EVE being a game of pirates and griefers, why do you even have concord and high sec??
Yeah, yeah, now the low/null dorks are all going to flame me, go ahead, I don't care. HelloKitty Online is that way -------->
Completely agreed in the fact that CCP allows the players to pretty much do whatever the heck they want, within reason.
By the way, amazingly hot character picture. :-P
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Xathytoz
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 02:07:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:Good lord.. I think I could vomit. If I didn't know better, I'd say that Goons are entirely made up of CCP employees. The homo-erotic softness and pure puffery every CCP employee has posted on here towards Goons, as if they are the most decent, intelligent people in the world, doing good for the game of EvE, is just sad and pathetic.
Burn Jita was a complete failure. In fact, Tritanium, the most basic measure of the market, ended up selling at a lower price after the fail-event ended than before it 'began' (as if anything really began).
I would love however, to see the totals in a few other categories..
1. Goon/Test losses vs. non-Goon/Test losses. My money is on Goons losing much more, AT LEAST 4-1 if not greater, than the players they were attempting to 'burn'.
2. Total ISK losses for Goons by means of ships destroyed and mods destroyed/dropped, time wasted.
I'd love to see CCP and Goons each take their penises out of eachothers mouths, EvE would be much more enjoyable for players who are not blindly following a sociopathic "internet lawyer".
Here's a hint for CCP. WE, the players, pay your bills. We, the players don't like Goons by a count of 5 to 1. 49,000 players voted AGAINST the sociopath and his sick, demented followers. A meager 10,000 votes (more like 2,000 - 3,000 original votes if you subtract all Goon alts to puff the vote) vs. a titanic 49,000 should let you, CCP figure that out. WE DON'T LIKE THEM OR THE **** THEY TRY, emphasis on TRY, to do.
Can you provide any evidence on how 49k players voted explicitly against Mittani, and not just for another CSM candidate? Because that is what your vote in the CSM since its installation has been: a vote for a particular candidate, not one against all others. Can you further provide any evidence that every member of Goonswarm gave his or her vote, including those of all available alt accounts, to The Mittani? Can you further prove that no Goon split his or her available votes or even voted for a different candidate than Mittani?
But I admit, you got us right there with the killratio argument. Given your apparent thorough investigation on the matter you must have found out that we really do care a very lot about kill:death ratios and ISK efficiencies. Breaks my heart...
One question though: If "Burn Jita" was, as you claimed, such a complete failure, then why do you feel so bothered?
Finally: Did it occur to you, especially in light of the apparent support of CCP to such player-driven events, that this is how the developers want their game/sandbox to work while you delusionally cling to a concept of Eve that has never been there in the first place? This is not World of WarCraft. |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2012.05.08 11:41:00 -
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Where's the graph showing the gargantuan number of newbships/dessies the goons were undocking in while still GCC'd just to inflate the stats? Along with all the pods that were being self destructed? |
Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven
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Posted - 2012.05.08 17:14:00 -
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Congratulations, CCP, on making a game so enthralling that the most stimulating thing that big null-sec alliances have to do with their time is come into high sec and shoot at defenseless targets.
No, I am not mad. I didn't loose anything; I don't even know anyone who did.
I am only putting this here in a last effort to get the Devs to wake up and realize that their game isn't nearly as awesome as they seem to think it is, before it fails.
CCP: You REALLY need to give the players more to do in the game! The fact that you think this kind of "player driven event" is a "good thing" is really quite pathetic.
When the major pew-pews have nothing better to do than come in and start attacking the back-bone of your "player-driven economy" just for kicks-and-grins.... yeah, that isn't a "good" thing.... That's a "bad" thing; and very much a sign of a game in decline.
Just my .2 isk put here since it seemed the self-important devs were paying so much attention to this thread.
Go ahead, flame away trolls, won't read it anyway.....
Peace.
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Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.09 20:26:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Funny how the "CCP serves Goons" conspiracy theorists remain totally unimpressed by CCP banning Mittani and taking away his seat on the CSM.
But then again, that is the basic trait of conspiracy loons: Ignore all the contradicting evidence and only see what supports what you want to believe.
permanent ban? or slap on the wrist for a guy that doesn't have to manage his empire from ingame ?
oh wait, implying favoritism is against the EULA and thus bannable , permanently bannable.
thats why you get so many people angry about it. Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time. |
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
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Posted - 2012.05.10 03:50:00 -
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So, next year, I expect to only get a 30 day ban for running a slide show at fan fest urging people to drive someone to suicide and then realizing I might be charged and arrested, make up a excuse about being drunk.
Non Nobis Domine Non Nobis Sed Nomine Tua Da Na Glorium |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1485
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Posted - 2012.05.10 04:04:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Let's all be honest for a sec. The only way it could have been a bigger embarassment for all of us, not just CCP or Goonswarm, was if he'd have followed it up by bending a GM over the table and raped them while they begged him to forgive them for having such a loose ass.
CCP banned him, as they should. But they made it a 30 day ban and then threw him a welcome back party because he threatened to cry if they didn't.
So, CCP, let me ask, next year at fanfest, when I get up and present a slideshow urging people to drive someone to suicide, will I just get a 30 day ban?
I think not.
Since the TOS and EULA only apply to in game actions, any sort of ban was a stretch for CCP to impose, whatever tortured logic they used to make EvETV an "in game channel" or whatever. If they had tried for a permanent ban, there would have been an outcry from people who realize that EvE and Real Life are separate things. In addition, the permaban would have called attention to CCP's own culpability in allowing an event that has historically been drunken and borderline inappropriate (a fact that they took into account when they cleared all the slides) to be aired without oversight when it came to the unscripted Q&A session.
Was the Mittani acting like a prick? Of course. He said so himself. Did CCP screw up in allowing the Alliance panel to air in a way that may have hurt their reputation/marketing? Massively.
Has the Mittani owned his actions and apologized? Yup. Has CCP owned their screwup and indicated that they'll fix it? Nope.
Besides that, it was a bad joke, made by a drunken idiot. Know what drunk people do? They crack inappropriate jokes. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
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Rick McMann
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:39:00 -
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Welcome to Eve Online! "Where you can do anything you want, and then GoonSwarm can blow it up" |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1490
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Posted - 2012.05.11 20:09:00 -
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Rick McMann wrote:Welcome to Eve Online! "Where you can do anything you want, and then GoonSwarm can blow it up"
You can blow Goonswarm up too.... Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Rick McMann
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.11 20:15:00 -
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Uhhh, yeah. Sure you can. Seeing how their home is deep null sec, good luck putting any dent in their economy. However, for those who live in High sec, it's more like being as exposed as a nerve.
Yup, that's not one sided at all. |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1492
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Posted - 2012.05.12 04:42:00 -
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Rick McMann wrote:Uhhh, yeah. Sure you can. Seeing how their home is deep null sec, good luck putting any dent in their economy. However, for those who live in High sec, it's more like being as exposed as a nerve.
Yup, that's not one sided at all.
Sounds like you're making a choice to live where you let yourself be exposed. They made a choice to put in the effort to gain and keep Sov, and in exchange they get to keep their core somewhat better insulated from casual attack.
Emphasis on the word Casual. Hisec is vulnerable to casual attack, but invulnerable to really intense siege(i.e. getting all your stuff locked away in someone else's station). Nullsec is less vulnerable to casual attack (see: AFK Cloaking), but vulnerable to intense siege (see: the siege of 6VDT, the burning of Branch, etc).
So you're right, it isn't one sided; each has advantages and disadvantages. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Shobon Welp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2012.05.12 10:31:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:So, next year, I expect to only get a 30 day ban for running a slide show at fan fest urging people to drive someone to suicide and then realizing I might be charged and arrested, make up a excuse about being drunk. Next fanfest CCP are probably going to do a much more thorough job of vetting the alliance presentations in advance, so no.
Quote:Because how would we report it if they were? Let's say I had a GM on tape talking about how he helps, say, BoB? I'd prefer to take it to CCP rather than have to anonymously send it to a gaming news site to keep my account. I'm sure CCP would prefer that too. With GM assistance, we will rise again. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2012.05.12 10:36:00 -
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Rick McMann wrote:Uhhh, yeah. Sure you can. Seeing how their home is deep null sec, good luck putting any dent in their economy. However, for those who live in High sec, it's more like being as exposed as a nerve.
Yup, that's not one sided at all. "Dear CCP,
I am too weak and lazy to compete with large powerful alliances and putting in any effort myself to alter this state of affairs is beyond me. Please fix this glaring imbalance.
ps: abloobloobloobloo." Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
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Posted - 2012.05.14 08:14:00 -
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This must be like the 9th time someone declared war on a high sec system just for the sake of farming newbs. Remember Yulai and Zombies players getting banned for disrespecting GM authority even though they weren't breaking any game mechanics or rules?
The scale of this is novel because it shows you how big of a subscriber base EVE has and how many people you actually need to disrupt a hub even slightly these days - but how the **** this made it to Kotaku front page news is beyond me. It's the laziest player driven 'event' you could think of and almost every other MMO has something similar. The most recent I can think of is Sith players farming Jedi in TOR.
This sells EVE short, because there are a lot of cooler things deserving of media attention. The average person I talk to might've heard of EVE but has no idea why anyone should or would play it over your average MMO. |
Ilnaurk Sithdogron
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:16:00 -
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I most definitely like the fact that EVE allows for this sort of thing to happen. I don't know of any other games in its genre where you can do anything near Burn Jita.
I don't agree with the Goons and hate them with a passion, but the simple fact that this was possible was quite amazing. Although I wish the developers hadn't taken such a Goon-glorifying stance. And yes, I know it's the game servers/mechanics that they're actually happy about, but the article read like it was pandering to the Goons. |
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.16 23:47:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:malaire wrote:What about a case where person coming back to system still has some GCC time left, but less than what is cached in other clients? That case was already properly handled by sending out an updated time to everyone. It was only the case where the time had been burned off completely that wasn't being handled properly.
It would seem then to make the GCC timer run on eve time universal to all of eve even those in a node under time dilation effect. Then the GCC timer would be the same no matter where they went to wait it out. More programming required but it would fix that issue totally. It would probably eat up more clock cycles and cause more lag on a packed node but with time dilation in effect so what? And your current fix to upload new timer info to all the clients involved is probably more lag inducing anyway as that info has to go around the (real world with extra packets) as opposed to an in house GCC timer fix. If you need to just slow down time more to compensate for lag. It seems like concord needs to be slowed down as well. I imagine you guys at CCP have a list of things to tweak after this event.
All in all I am impressed that you went to this extent to handle a lag issue. A novel approach that for the most part worked.
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Porthomnius
Angry Badgers
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Posted - 2012.05.22 09:46:00 -
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I would have to say this is pretty cool. Lag has been a huge issue with EVE the last few years and the fact that these guys just came in, did what they did and the server didn't totally crap out is pretty cool.
In-line with the other convo going on here, let goons be goons and carebears be carebears. I mean yeah, I'm currently a PvE guy with intentions to go low sec here soon, but when I get ganked I may be ticked but I can't let it get to me.
I would have to say though, this quote made my day. XD
"ThereGÇÖs just something special about building 15,000 spaceships and loading their guns with 1 round of ammo to shoot. And doing it right in front of the police." |
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WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
7
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:13:00 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Two step wrote: it is great to see CCP's pride in the terrible things their players do to each other... :) Seriously? and you are a CSM player's representative? I think you underestimate just how many players enjoy this.
Also, Two Step represents wormhole dwellers. Doing terrible things to each other is our specialty. |
WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
7
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:19:00 -
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Deviana Sevidon wrote:There is a reason why EVE can not and will not grow, because CCP caters only to egomaniacs like the Mittani and effectivly endorses actions that drive players away. Usually the newest and most inexperienced players are made the victims and driven out of the game.
A few years back I would have happily recommended EVE to anyone but now I am not so sure. To be really honest I would not recommend EVE to anyone except extremely cold blooded accountants and maybe to people with narcisstic/ egomanic / or plain sociopathic tendencies.
A brief look at the past few years will prove you wrong...EVE has been steadily growing. |
WInter Borne
Cold Station 12 Surely You're Joking
7
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Posted - 2012.05.31 19:24:00 -
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Oliver Stoned wrote:... Another idea that interests me.
How about a TSA system at gates and stations in empire. TSA for jita? I dont know whether to laugh at the sheer stupidity or cry at the horrible, horrible nightmares this engenders. |
Gordane
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Posted - 2012.07.21 21:00:00 -
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omg i am so happy i am nr 8 on the burn jita event and it was a moment to be remembered for ever hahahah pro burn
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