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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
358
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:59:00 -
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mental maverick wrote:Quote:Without going into exhaustive detail: 1. Cannot dock in stations that are in systems controlled by an enemy - Example: Minmatar cannot dock in stations in a FW system controlled by the Amarr/Caldari - You also cannot use station services if you docked before system flipped - Ninja Edit: This does not affect neutrals
2. There are 5 levels of discounts for a number of different things - if you own the system and have upgraded it - Medical clone discounts (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50% discount) - Number of assembly lines increases by 1 for every level - All broker fees discounted (from 10% in increments of 10 up to 50%) - NOTE: You only get these discounts in the FW system - ADDENDUM: These discounts apply to neutrals not in FW
3. Militia store LP prices are affected by faction wide performance (discounts in increments of 10%) - Note that Datacores have been split and moved in FW LP stores - Pending implementation, LP gain increase for all ways in which LP can be gained in FW - FW Kills, FW Missions, Complexs etc
I do believe these are the most prominent consequences implemented/pending. Ok, so those bolded parts there means I don't have to be in FW to reap the benefits of occupancy? So can someone tell me again the reason for staying in the Militia as opposed to leaving and setting our standings/war deccing manually and act as true privateers? Just put a bunch of plexing alts in a separate corp, join militia and stick them in cloaky t1 frigs to capture plexes and fight with impunity on our "neutral" mains. I'd rather take the chance of fighting the occational fight under gate guns as opposed to not being able to dock tbh. Plus, no gateguns in plexes...
I predict the pve will give you mad amounts of lp. I intend to give it a fair shake, but it looks like the best bet will be to put your pvp characters in a neutral corp and have your pve alts in fw. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
78
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Posted - 2012.05.03 03:53:00 -
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Faster system flipping sounds like it would be in order here.
The enemy not letting you dock in their stations makes sense. Hell, enemy sentry guns shooting you when you get close makes sense. Having to gather together gigantor blobs to duke it out before anything meaningful happens does not make sense.
Faster system flipping and/or a more dynamic "contested" period is definitely what is in order here. I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
177
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Posted - 2012.05.03 04:05:00 -
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Mechael wrote:Faster system flipping sounds like it would be in order here.. A dedicated core of players can flip a system in about 8 hours from start to finish if there are no plexes piled up. Sooner if there are. Want faster?
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Mechael
Ouroboros Executor Collective
78
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Posted - 2012.05.03 04:15:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Mechael wrote:Faster system flipping sounds like it would be in order here.. A dedicated core of players can flip a system in about 8 hours from start to finish if there are no plexes piled up. Sooner if there are. Want faster?
How many pilots in this dedicated core? I'd rather die in battle against a man who will lie to me, than for a man who will lie to me. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
73
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Posted - 2012.05.03 04:35:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Regarding LP for FW kills, it would be great if more people involved on the kill would result in less LP per person. Therefore making thing less blobby and enhancing the small gang aspect of FW.
I'm dissapointed to see that docking restrictions is being implemented considering Hans was very opposed to this and voiced it to CCP. And yet CCP is still boneheaded to implement the docking restrictions. Hate to rain on Hans' parade, but everyone was/is against it. It works in blob-land largely due to sov. being a linchpin for just about anything worth undocking for, numbers (pilots, income, et al) are considerably larger and they are drowning in bubbles and capitals.
BolsterBomb wrote:...FW needs a big "ownership" buff and this is it. By creating a purpose now militia has to work together or suffer together. Probably what they were thinking when the brain-fart oozed out .. but as with all such things it won't work. That kind of system works if sides are roughly equal (see every FPS made the last ten years) but here the various sides are insanely unbalanced; On Caldari/Gallente front you have a huge number disparity and no amount of Gallente uber-ness can fight against 4-5x the numbers for a prolonged period of time = Gallente gets to sit in highsec. On Amarr/Matar front numbers are roughly equal but with very distinct timezones, layout of the area is so immensely in the insurgents favour as to make it a foregone conclusion = Amarr gets to sit in highsec after a long but ultimately futile fight.
And that is before taking into account the potential abuse by null-monkeys .. enlist an alt corp, dump all their LP into a few systems and use it as the alliances private FarmVille, blob the snot out of anything threatening it (neutrals are to get full benefit of upgrades apparently ).
Station lock-out will break infinitely more than it will solve, but since it is probably merely a tick-box in the database it doesn't require work to implement and is thus highly favoured in Iceland
Mechael wrote:How many pilots in this dedicated core? And if that's true, then nobody should be here complaining about how they're about to get kicked out of their home station. Clearly grinding down that bunker isn't a problem. Enough to be able to outblob any opposition in the high-value plexes .. can be anywhere from 5-50 depending on timezone/holidays/activity. Station ping-pong was among one of the most hated things in the old null sov system, now we get to experience its revival.
By the way, since we already have LP-for-Kills and they mention it as a feature I take it the amount will be bumped significantly .. prep your alts for exploitation. With LP scored by repeatedly killing an alt and the LP raked in ninja capping plexes in the ass-end of the universe the navy market is guaranteed to be at its current level (ie. rock-bottom) well into next year.
PS: CCP has not managed to make a single change to FW without introducing one or more at times crippling bugs, so be on the lookout for hilarity such as the classic cloaking capture, victims getting LP for dying, stations firing on people rather than just locking them out, sovereignty inadvertently changing rather than occupancy etc. Personally love when FW gets "fixed" as it means I get to be bug-hunter for a week! |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
177
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Posted - 2012.05.03 05:22:00 -
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Pulgy wrote:Any word on the cyno jamming thingy? What? You want to give a mechanism for defending low sec systems from 0.0 supercap roflblobs to the militias? That would affect the Eve universe outside of FW (which I think the CCP dev said they wanted FW to do, but whatever... ).
It is better to offer near meaningless benefits to upgrading a system.
Name one low sec system where production is hindered due to lack of production slots.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate Villore Accords
177
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Posted - 2012.05.03 05:46:00 -
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Mechael wrote: How many pilots in this dedicated core? And if that's true, then nobody should be here complaining about how they're about to get kicked out of their home station. Clearly grinding down that bunker isn't a problem.
The real question is whether or not implementing this feature will lead to more fights. Will we readjust our in-game priorities so that we bring more fights to the plexes. Do we engage the other side when we have a lower chance of winning than before the patch?
Will we decide that keeping sovereignty is more important than fighs and therefore we roflblob plexes - reducing the chance of a fight but increasing our ability to hold our system?
My guess is we'll see a flurry of plex fighting activity the first month this new system is out, and then one side (Gallente) will gain some dominance and then the other side (Caldari) will flee to high sec to keep their assets safe. As they flee, lucrative mission systems will fall, and many of them will either leave FW forever, or will spend significant time outside of FW areas making isk. Fewer targets long term means fewer fights long term. |
Kuehnelt
Amarrian Retribution Amarr 7th Fleet
24
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Posted - 2012.05.03 07:34:00 -
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Seraphine Keratuus wrote:I cant wait for the day the bears realize that we can stop them from getting to their agents..
1. The new system encourages militia to huddle into select systems that they can safely invest LP into and defend across timezones.
2. The new system rewards militia activities (plexing, etc.) with LP.
Does that combination of features strike you as carebear unfriendly?
Suppose that you wanted to farm LP by running plexes: would you rather the serious FWers have four ships (minor, medium, large, bunker) all over the damned place, and for potentially everyone in a militia to decide that they're awfully fond of different systems which they'd live in and see you enter? Or would you rather them mostly not be around at all outside of specific systems, not notice your actions until after you've run a several plexes, and have to make five jumps to switch out from the BC after you run into a medium? |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
170
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Posted - 2012.05.03 07:43:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Why do I get the feeling we're witnessing the last days of the Caldari militia? Be careful for what you wish for Bolster. Get your corp mates to go find another isk-generating activity because it's all downhill for you guys from here on out.
I would just like to know if we're not going to be allowed to dock in Caldari hi-sec systems ? (lol at the complete lack of logic w.r.t station docking)
I can't wait because then maybe all those millions of LP's I have stashed away will finally be worth something again when all the mission farming alts get locked out of the stations.. I can't wait to see them all join Galentte & Minmatar.. So please dO IT as it will make me very space rich.
In fact I tried to float the idea of letting you Gals take all Caldari systems now when they mean nothing so we could go get rich taking them when it's paid LP's to do so.. Sadly I couldn't get much support on this idea.. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
102
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Posted - 2012.05.03 07:45:00 -
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well .... in a first moment I wanted to say CCP u F8ck1ng F8cke0 it again .....
on the other hand ... well if we got locked in system ... corp will quit fw ... move assets and go on ... jump into fw.
CCP helped blobing again and dedicated team can flip system in 6 hours .... hey gals ... how about flipping nisuwa before release?
I must say station denial is worst thing they come with .... overblobing is problem which they strengtened again.
Consequesnces i see:
1) people will plex more - defensive plexing with ****** ships alts will be golden mine (gals using bunch of these right now) 2) people will be pushed out of low sec - very very very bad 3) corp hopping will be normal - which sucks 4) This might turn fw into null like wasteland with alts running plexes (due to standing nature of FW agro u just need 1 or 2 alts to run on the button and rest of the ships poping rats. Especially all together with removing of gcc/gateguns fire from lowsec 5) One major alliance which will decide to rampant the war will totaly anihilate the battlefield by sheer numbers plexing and way how fast they can bash the bunkers. It is easy to lock few key systems and **** with major militia corps.
The main problem is, that it is hard to test it on testing server. So real impacts are very hard to foresee.
Dear CCP we dont want ******* null sec in lowsec .... one of many lowsec dwellers. We want more people here to fight and fights so **** out with ur stupid null ideas.
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
103
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Posted - 2012.05.03 07:59:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Why do I get the feeling we're witnessing the last days of the Caldari militia? Be careful for what you wish for Bolster. Get your corp mates to go find another isk-generating activity because it's all downhill for you guys from here on out.
I would just like to know if we're not going to be allowed to dock in Caldari hi-sec systems ? (lol at the complete lack of logic w.r.t station docking)
well that can be in general strong problem for each one timezone sides. Careful with that. If we cooperate we can tacticaly flip nenamalia, nisuwa and heydelis in 7 hours (we did similar action in last 4 days) when most of ur blobforce will be offline... and majority of ur assets will be locked in stations. Then u can come in early US timezone and lock our assets and war is over - have fun .
Or we all can move to low/null npc systems and just roll around in logistic blobs ....
Problem is that CCP is too influenced by nullbears and is not understanding needs of low (and even high sec) people - they really should stop being goons directors and should try to play lowsec/fw. I have never heard anyone from CCP to speak about development strategy for low sec. They still see it as a transition to null (which is bullshit).
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Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
132
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:15:00 -
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I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Your posturing assumes people will treat plexing like they do currently and not bother running them. If it has meaning and a reward (more pew and actual LP) I'm pretty sure people will run them against you, especially in their "home" systems.
I know all you like sitting in one station and pretending you're "home" and it means more than the next system, but I think it won't be particularly difficult to use several "home" systems and prudently have ships in multiple locations (even use a POS in your home system - Shocking I know!), with which to counter and 8 hour rush plexing job.
All you station lockout haters fail to realise this makes FW a lot more interesting and adds more possibilities to the gameplay. My belief is you're all just too myopic to see how this will be good for giving FW consequences and making the war a lot more meaningful. If you had perhaps seen more of the game and been around longer you'd appreciate CCP messing with your particular playstyle is a good thing as it forces you to change, grow, learn new methods and become a better all round player.
It is a change FW needs. |
Cpt Cosmic
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:49:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:It is a change FW needs. changing FW to pseudo nullsec is not what FW needs. If you want nullsec blob warfare and wastelands then go to nullsec. also what are the consequences when I can just leave FW for a while? |
Dirk Smacker
Inglorious-Basterds
24
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:52:00 -
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mental maverick wrote:
Ok, so those bolded parts there means I don't have to be in FW to reap the benefits of occupancy?
So can someone tell me again the reason for staying in the Militia as opposed to leaving and setting our standings/war deccing manually and act as true privateers? Just put a bunch of plexing alts in a separate corp, join militia and stick them in cloaky t1 frigs to capture plexes and fight with impunity on our "neutral" mains. I'd rather take the chance of fighting the occational fight under gate guns as opposed to not being able to dock tbh. Plus, no gateguns in plexes...
Don't forget to have an alt in the enemy militia to anchor your safespot/booster POS's so the enemy will take a big faction hit if they destroy it.
Just like your corp does now. I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one. |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
171
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:56:00 -
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I guess the space riches & dreams of all the Mission farmers leaving if they get locked out of stations will be just that.. Dreams..
I just ran a major on the test server & it paid out 20k LP. While the time it takes to run is much longer than a single FW mission, they are still easy enough to do that plexing will simply become the new farm method as the NPC's are still going to allow for frigs to pretty much speed tank any of the plexes. So instead of having bomber alts all over low sec we will see more T1 noob alts plexing and driving LP prices down even more.
I had a second thought on the plex war front and even with the Gallentte blobs, I think Caldari can actually control the fight at this point due to how fast systems can be flipped under the current plex mechanics. Plexing for station systems will just go back to advantage of who has most guys on few hours B4 & right after DT.
Quick example of how bad this system is and why the no docking in stations is bad. Right now once a system is flipped it can't be attacked again until the next DT. This means even though Caldari are out numbered in the major prime times, a small dedicated group can grief the hell out of any Gals that choose to live FW low sec, after this FW update.
If Gals continue to base in Nenn for example, after this patch it only requires a small but dedicated group of Caldari to force them out of the system by using this new no docking mechanic to it's potential for grief play. Caldari only have to hit key systems like Nenn, Rak, Vlill & Hey to drive Gals out of low sec.
How can we do this? It's very simple Caldari have historically always had more activity just b4 & after DT. Caldari plexers only have to time making systems Vulnerable to right at down time. This means right after down time they can attack the bunker & once captured, Gals will not be able to get access to their ships til the next DT & even then not until they can spend 8 hours plexing & killing the bunker.
This means even if Gals try to take back the system the next day, they can't dock until it's re-captured and Then Caldari only has to wait til next DT to grief the Gals low sec home once again.
At first I thought Caldari might have issues under the new system, but now I think it will actually put the sov war back in our favor. GL gals, I think you going to need it if the current system goes live.
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Johnny Punisher
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
7
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:51:00 -
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If things really go really bad for us (fw corps), we could all just leave fw and do mutual wardecs against each other until things get better
At the moment I don't have that much time to play eve so I'd have to leave defending of my assets to others. Or fix my sec status and move stuff to highsec. Don't like it... Tho I don't think it's as bad as some ppl here have been theorizing. FW have strong corps, we'll adapt. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
103
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:52:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:I guess the space riches & dreams of all the Mission farmers leaving if they get locked out of stations will be just that.. Dreams.. I just ran a major on the test server & it paid out 20k LP. While the time it takes to run is much longer than a single FW mission, they are still easy enough to do that plexing will simply become the new farm method as the NPC's are still going to allow for frigs to pretty much speed tank any of the plexes. So instead of having bomber alts all over low sec we will see more T1 noob alts plexing and driving LP prices down even more. I had a second thought on the plex war front and even with the Gallentte blobs, I think Caldari can actually control the fight at this point due to how fast systems can be flipped under the current plex mechanics. Plexing for station systems will just go back to advantage of who has most guys on few hours B4 & right after DT. Quick example of how bad this system is and why the no docking in stations is bad. Right now once a system is flipped it can't be attacked again until the next DT. This means even though Caldari are out numbered in the major prime times, a small dedicated group can grief the hell out of any Gals that choose to live in FW low sec, after this update. If Gals continue to base in Nenn for example, after this patch it only requires a small but dedicated group of Caldari to force them out of the system by using this new no docking mechanic to it's potential for grief play. Caldari only have to hit key systems like Nenn, Rak, Vlill, Nis & Hey to drive Gals out of low sec. How can we do this? It's very simple Caldari have historically always had more activity just b4 & after DT. Caldari plexers only have to time making systems Vulnerable to right at down time. This means right after down time they can attack the bunker & once captured, Gals will not be able to get access to their ships til the next DT & even then not until they can spend 8 hours plexing & killing the bunker. This means even if Gals try to take back the system the next day, they can't dock until it's re-captured and Then Caldari only has to wait til next DT to grief the Gals low sec home once again. At first I thought Caldari might have issues under the new system, but now I think it will actually put the sov war back in our favor. GL gals, I think you going to need it if the current system goes live. Side note this mechanic seems to be lost on some of the Cal plexers as I tried explaining it, It got whined at by a couple that couldn't see past their 10 min orbit timers and thought I was jabbering up their plex channel. However perhaps they will read this post and understand. So Gals maybe you can live in Nenn a short time til they figure it out. Otherwise I'm looking for cheap BC hulls if you don't feel like moving them.
Well other option which comes to my mind, that I will create "Inglorious-Basterds state alts" where I will put all my militia alts - they will serve sitting on buttons and farming lps (in condors and some other ***** ships), while rest of the boys will be "suspects" in lowsec IBS.
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
103
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:54:00 -
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Johnny Punisher wrote:If things really go really bad for us (fw corps), we could all just leave fw and do mutual wardecs against each other until things get better At the moment I don't have that much time to play eve so I'd have to leave defending of my assets to others. Or fix my sec status and move stuff to highsec. Don't like it... Tho I don't think it's as bad as some ppl here have been theorizing. FW have strong corps, we'll adapt.
to some level ... dont like the **** of nullbears on my lawn ....
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Mike Whiite
Progressive State State Section 9
42
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:14:00 -
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Low sec has several stations that belong to different empires, I've seen Anmar stations in Gallente space and the same for others why would a Anmar station deny Anmar or Caldari Millitia?
and will Caldari stations turn Gallente when captured and the other way arround?
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mental maverick
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
15
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:20:00 -
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Dirk Smacker wrote:mental maverick wrote:
Ok, so those bolded parts there means I don't have to be in FW to reap the benefits of occupancy?
So can someone tell me again the reason for staying in the Militia as opposed to leaving and setting our standings/war deccing manually and act as true privateers? Just put a bunch of plexing alts in a separate corp, join militia and stick them in cloaky t1 frigs to capture plexes and fight with impunity on our "neutral" mains. I'd rather take the chance of fighting the occational fight under gate guns as opposed to not being able to dock tbh. Plus, no gateguns in plexes...
Don't forget to have an alt in the enemy militia to anchor your safespot/booster POS's so the enemy will take a big faction hit if they destroy it. Just like your corp does now. I honestly have no idea what your talking about, I don't own any pos and I don't use any poses, corp or other. Doesn't sound like a bad idea though if you need to have a pos I guess.
I also don't see how that is pertinent to the point I was trying to make.
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JaneBudden
Spiritus Draconis
3
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:03:00 -
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all the complaining even before its tested ... we will see how it will work out.
I really like the non docking thing,i also hoped that i would just affect the fw stations but we will see: at least we have a reason to capture systems now and for the alt problem:now we have tons of alts doing fw missions, soon we will have alts for plexing, i dont see a change here :-)
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
362
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:11:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why do you think people will start throwing ships at your blobs? People in null sec aren't even doing that and they have much bigger stakes to fight for.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
362
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:16:00 -
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Mutnin wrote: ...I had a second thought on the plex war front and even with the Gallentte blobs, I think Caldari can actually control the fight at this point due to how fast systems can be flipped under the current plex mechanics....
They made it take much longer to flip systems.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Vyktor Abyss
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
132
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:33:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why do you think people will start throwing ships at your blobs? People in null sec aren't even doing that and they have much bigger stakes to fight for.
Read my post again, then maybe again....
Notice the "I'll believe it when I see it" yet? - I don't believe the squids have the... will / ability / leadership / fcs / balls [delete as appropriate] to come and directly challenge the Gallente.
Sure they currently sneak about in cloaky ecm burst stabbed nanofagships capping plexes while most Gallente are out looking for proper fights, but if and when they actually challenge Gallente we'll steamroller them in fights (and plexes if needs be) unless they get some influx of new blood in the form of.... fcs / leadership / will / ability / balls. I for one really hope this happens with these changes as it would spice things up a bit and it well might since FW will maybe appeal to more different people,
Null sec has nothing to do with this, but if you'd ever visited Null you'd know what a blob really is.... FW hasn't had a proper 'blob' since the early days and people crying about blobs really need to get some perspective. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
106
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:33:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Mutnin wrote: ...I had a second thought on the plex war front and even with the Gallentte blobs, I think Caldari can actually control the fight at this point due to how fast systems can be flipped under the current plex mechanics....
They made it take much longer to flip systems.
how much longer? Any idea?
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
106
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:39:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Cearain wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why do you think people will start throwing ships at your blobs? People in null sec aren't even doing that and they have much bigger stakes to fight for. Read my post again, then maybe again.... Notice the "I'll believe it when I see it" yet? - I don't believe the squids have the... will / ability / leadership / fcs / balls [delete as appropriate] to come and directly challenge the Gallente. Sure they currently sneak about in cloaky ecm burst stabbed nanofagships capping plexes while most Gallente are out looking for proper fights, but if and when they actually challenge Gallente we'll steamroller them in fights (and plexes if needs be) unless they get some influx of new blood in the form of.... fcs / leadership / will / ability / balls. I for one really hope this happens with these changes as it would spice things up a bit and it well might since FW will maybe appeal to more different people, Null sec has nothing to do with this, but if you'd ever visited Null you'd know what a blob really is.... FW hasn't had a proper 'blob' since the early days and people crying about blobs really need to get some perspective.
Oh yeah ... please more old bullshit ....
we like u victor "the great blob" abyss ....
balls and brain are two organ which has to work together .... If i get outnumbered 3 to 1 with same or worse quality level .... even the mighty galente are not fighting btw.
actually yesterday ur boys run imediately i pull out 5 drakes and warped them on good spot (nice 15 man cruiser hac falcon fleet bailed). Since we were in frigs and cruisers lot of chestbeating was around.
btw it is war ... so yeah i will flip system under ur but in a moment u will be offline and u will do the same. Diference is I will not mock it into some "honor" bullshit. IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free>>>free ****>>>????
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Meditril
T.R.I.A.D Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:45:00 -
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I think the docking denial is a good idea since it adds some consequences for not defending a place. I am pretty sure I will regret this once my own station is taken and I am affected, but it definatelly will motivate me and others to avoid or resolve this issue once happened. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:47:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Cearain wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why do you think people will start throwing ships at your blobs? People in null sec aren't even doing that and they have much bigger stakes to fight for. Read my post again, then maybe again.... Notice the "I'll believe it when I see it" yet? - I don't believe the squids have the... will / ability / leadership / fcs / balls [delete as appropriate] to come and directly challenge the Gallente..
You forgot "numbers" in the list of things caldari lacks. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
106
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:48:00 -
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Meditril wrote:I think the docking denial is a good idea since it adds some consequences for not defending a place. I am pretty sure I will regret this once my own station is taken and I am affected, but it definatelly will motivate me and others to avoid or resolve this issue once happened.
well my point is that they should introduce it all together with other features .... and properly tested .... otherwise they will make low sec null wasteland ....
BTW is anybody here who remembers lowsec before fw .... that was bad ... very very bad .... so now imagine it again IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free>>>free ****>>>????
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:50:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:Cearain wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:I hope you do commit to actually showing up to flip Nisuwa, Heyd and every other base the Gallente use but I'll believe it when I see it.
Why do you think people will start throwing ships at your blobs? People in null sec aren't even doing that and they have much bigger stakes to fight for. Read my post again, then maybe again.... Notice the "I'll believe it when I see it" yet? - I don't believe the squids have the... will / ability / leadership / fcs / balls [delete as appropriate] to come and directly challenge the Gallente.. You forgot "numbers" in the list of things caldari lacks.
It is not about the size of the dog in the fight, It is about the size of the fight in the dog .....
.... we lack numbers we compensate it by sneaky techniques .... ECM bursts etc. ... funny how he is buthurt they did not catch my SBing, stabbed, cloaky, ECM burst scorpion ..... ;) IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free>>>free ****>>>????
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