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Delphina Amaranthus
Random Variable Ventures
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:07:00 -
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Well, I was upset about the change to the Caldari ship widow when that was rolled out, and the Gallente ships were already ugly, and the Gallente and Minmatar noob ship models now look like they both had Caldari parents. Unfortunately, the slide downward continues with the uglification of Amarr T2 ship skins. Used to be, there were some T2 ships in the game that I would have considered buying just based on appearance. Now, there are ships appearing on Sisi that, if ported to Tranquility, I will probably NOT be buying, due to color scheme, unless there is a really good functional reason to do so. The Sarum Family (I think the new one is like the old Sarum Family one, although the label is still Carthum Conglomerate) color scheme has totally removed any desire from me to buy the Paladin or any similarly coloured ships and the Curse and Damnation have also been struck with a bit of the "ugly" club, with the blotchy black and grey, although not as much. If the trend toward FUGLY continues when CCP redoes T2 Minmatar ships (I don't think that has been done yet, but not sure), I will be sorely tempted to not even bother with most T2 ships in spite of their usefulness.
I am almost sure that this uglification is a prelude to CCP charging ISK, or worse yet, Aurum for the old color schemes. If so, I will probably not be buying the colors and just looking at my ship and feeling miserable rather than hate myself for giving in. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
198
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:16:00 -
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I like them.
Your last paragraph doesn't even make sense. Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window. |
Herold Oldtimer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:18:00 -
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Do you have a screenshot of it? Haven't been able to look at it yet
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Klingon Admiral
Black Hole Cluster
10
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:30:00 -
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v3 Paladin:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ELtzDgZ5YJs/T6HLbK0lSWI/AAAAAAAAAGY/qA0eArlwJBE/s1600/2012.05.02.23.34.37.jpg
Do NOT want! |
Just Alter
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:30:00 -
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I like them .
Most people just reaaaaaaaaaaaally hate any kind of change.
I think in a few month you'll start to like them too. |
Non Servlam
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:44:00 -
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cry me a river |
Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.05.03 08:59:00 -
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Carthum Conglomerate ships have wrong logo and wrong color scheme. They're not Carthum Conglomerate anymore but Sarum Family.
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Galphii
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
42
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:59:00 -
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I have to admit, the slight green tinge to the zealot and other Viziam ships is a little... off. Not bad, as such, just... yeah. Weird. The Carthum( or Sarum, if they're being changed) colours aren't quite working for me, too much of that dried-blood red. I like the restrained use of colour done on the golem; perhaps Sarum ships could follow the same philosophy instead of trying to outdo tony stark |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
419
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:07:00 -
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All of the khanid V3s look amazing :D |
Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
64
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Posted - 2012.05.03 10:38:00 -
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All too dark. |
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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
142
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:21:00 -
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maybe something isn't applying in that preview that will be in the final version? one could hope you know, something like the overall colouring scheme of the nebula being ~'reflected' somehow, making it lighter in effect The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Reldor Silverheart
Deflagration Imperial Hull Tankers
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:28:00 -
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the new colourscheme looks amazing on the absolution. Have yet to check the others, but i love them so far. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:41:00 -
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I lost faith when CCP nerfed my navypoc - was only a matter of time until the other ships would follow. |
Bibosikus
Universal Moose Federation Moose Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:32:00 -
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It's a well-known fact that girls buy cars because they "like the colour", not because of performance, efficiency or any other useful feature.
:p The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
marVLs
4
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:44:00 -
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Maybe a little too dark, but colors are cool, can't stop looking at absolution |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
149
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:00:00 -
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some look good, some not so good. Not sure how I feel about the Gold on brown look but the other colors look good
Bhaalgorn for instance is sexy
http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l338/Xenoninja42/20120503013108.png On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
HellSpeed
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:11:00 -
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EVE has gone black. It may never go back. You've been dreaming about that starship of yours again, haven't you? |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
331
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:13:00 -
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My main problem with the new t2 colors is Viziam. Its a tarnished metal t1 hull. Perhaps a fade effect like Ishukone but with a stronger green.
I like the Carthum Conglomerate. But I think the red crimson hue should be slightly re-tuned as it looks blood raider. I miss the old Guardian red.
The darker blacks of the Khanid is nice but the Silver makes it look like the Navy
Navy, white and black. simple and nice. But they look too much like Khanid. |
Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:16:00 -
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Tiger's Spirit wrote:All too dark.
They planning on adding new lighting effects once all the models are V3. Those effects will probably look a lot better if the models are a bit dark.
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Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
103
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:17:00 -
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I like the current Retribution and the Paladin but I like the new ones as well
A maroon colour, do you think? :D Lovely |
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Lili Lu
217
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:20:00 -
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No red on the Absolution. Damantion is not black. ditto assault frigs.
The shiny is nice, but why do they have to lose rich color for shades of brown/tan? |
Delphina Amaranthus
Random Variable Ventures
2
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:24:00 -
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Yes, to poster #14. I am female.
I'm going to go look at the Khanid ships now, just because Helicity says they look amazing. Will be back with my honest opinion. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
331
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:29:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:No red on the Absolution.
there are 285 shades of visibly different red to the naked eye This is just not the right red. |
Delphina Amaranthus
Random Variable Ventures
2
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:36:00 -
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So, I guess the Anathema and Curse are Khanid. I think the color scheme works with the Anathema, but not with the Curse. The Curse could actually pass for black previously, but now cannot. An all black ship with blue lights is very scary, IMHO. LOL....I guess I'm a sucker for cup holders, too. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
160
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:16:00 -
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Dunno what Op is about, maybe too much bling? I for one love the new color schemes. Don't go by the view window, get them into space with some light.
Abaddon amazing
Red/gold T2 combo is amazing
Cylon prophecy hulls amazing
Absolution means a change of shorts!
Not sure why some people are only getting brown. I get a nice burnt red/orange. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1126
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:35:00 -
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Oh god, the absolution.
The purple beams of death erupting from it's hull.
<3 - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Geiko Sul
Mahe Ratu
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 17:07:00 -
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It's strange because for example, Khanid ships have the correct Khanid logo but Carthum ships have the Sarum family logo and Viziam ships have the ardishapur family logo. Purifier doesn't have any logo but it's a Viziam ship.
I'd like Carthum and Viziam logos for Amarr TII ships as same as Caldari and Gallente V3 ships have Duvolle, creodron,roden,lai dai, kaalakiota or ishukone logos and painting jobs.
Hound doesn't have any logo too, it's a Boundless Creation ship. |
Aglais
Liberation Army BricK sQuAD.
59
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Posted - 2012.05.03 17:19:00 -
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Dear god the old Amarr T2 color schemes were garish and horrifying, ESPECIALLY Carthum Conglomerate. Gold and cherry red, yeah, going to strike so much fear in the hearts of the enemy. Khanid ships were ok, and I still think at this point that they're ok. But the Vengeance could do without the finny things at it's back, they make the sleek and dangerous Punisher hull look kind of silly, as do the wings in the side. But at this point I'm quite impressed with the Amarr V3 textures as a whole, and feel that I should fly them more. |
Reika Mishima
The Shadow Order
1
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:06:00 -
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I just wish all the new V3 skins weren't so dark. You can hardy see them in most systems. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
150
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:20:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Dunno what Op is about, maybe too much bling? I for one love the new color schemes. Don't go by the view window, get them into space with some light.
Not sure why some people are only getting brown. I get a nice burnt red/orange.
the brown is coming from the harby and normal Apocalypse. Their hulls have the normal brownish/tannish color and then a more pronounced Gold plating on top of it. Looks better than the original but still a bit bland
On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
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Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
141
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:29:00 -
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Apparently V3 graphics means dipping every ship in mud.
Not that it looks *bad*, but it is taking a lot of the visual variety out of space. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
1012
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:31:00 -
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The new Navy Apoc has an Amarrian symbol at the bow that looks like an eye. This makes the whole front of the ship look like an evil, open mouth either laughing at the enemies or about to devour them. I would totally pay aurum to get this effect enhanced by a painted sharkmouth..... -.- |
Anita Lehtola
Mahe Ratu
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:38:00 -
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I don't understand the new Sarum or Ardishapur emblems in Carthum and Viziam ships... |
Geiko Sul
Mahe Ratu
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:40:00 -
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Navy ships have the Amarrian Navy emblem, i think this is correct. |
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
58
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:51:00 -
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Delphina Amaranthus wrote: BTW, I've tried both my monitors and neither of them are giving me any shade of red on the Paladin or the Crusader, just brown. I'm training up one so I can take it out into the light and perhaps it might look better, but I still have a feeling I would like Paladin as it currently is (the one that would look nice hanging from a Christmas tree).
Either your screens are calibrated wrong or you need to see an eye doctor.
Amarrad - Amarr language project |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
150
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:53:00 -
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someone post a pic of the Pali. I looked at it last night via the ship viewer and remember saying to myself that I thought the original had way more red in it. May be wrong though On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Horatius Caul
Kitzless
58
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Posted - 2012.05.03 18:58:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:someone post a pic of the Pali. I looked at it last night via the ship viewer and remember saying to myself that I thought the original had way more red in it. May be wrong though Well yeah. The Carthum ships aren't cherry red anymore, which is great. It's a dark wine red instead. Amarrad - Amarr language project |
Toguri Iva
nXo Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 19:07:00 -
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They're now Sarum ships, not Carthum ships |
Malice Redeemer
Redeemer Group Joint Venture Conglomerate
2
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Posted - 2012.05.03 20:19:00 -
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I love ammar v3, can't wait for mimmie |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
116
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Posted - 2012.05.03 20:54:00 -
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Horatius Caul wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:someone post a pic of the Pali. I looked at it last night via the ship viewer and remember saying to myself that I thought the original had way more red in it. May be wrong though Well yeah. The Carthum ships aren't cherry red anymore, which is great. It's a dark wine red instead. It's more like a dark brown-red >_<
Yeh cherry may have been too bright, but this new mud-red is too damn dark. Maybe a nice burgundy or smth would be nice There should be a rather awesome pic here |
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
335
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Posted - 2012.05.03 21:21:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:someone post a pic of the Pali. I looked at it last night via the ship viewer and remember saying to myself that I thought the original had way more red in it. May be wrong though
Paladin They just swapped the secondary and primary. I think the red should have stayed secondary. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
698
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Posted - 2012.05.03 21:24:00 -
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would be curious if the material swap is intended or just a shader config bug. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Rhianna Ghost
Eagle Technologies Avateas Blessed
12
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:13:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:someone post a pic of the Pali. I looked at it last night via the ship viewer and remember saying to myself that I thought the original had way more red in it. May be wrong though Paladin They just swapped the secondary and primary. I think the red should have stayed secondary.
Does someone have a screenshot in Space ore somewhere else? The light in the shipviewer is greenish, so the colors do get altered quite a bit.
My toon does not have the ability to get into one (yet) so I cannot take one myself.
Thanks |
Sobach
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
25
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:35:00 -
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Rhianna Ghost wrote:Does someone have a screenshot in Space or somewhere else (Hangar)? The light in the shipviewer is greenish, so the colors do get altered quite a bit.
My toon does not have the ability to get into one (yet) so I cannot take one myself.
Thanks
here you go, these were taken in a gal system w/ minimal nebula lighting, so pretty much reflection color neutral
http://eve-files.com/dl/254271 http://eve-files.com/dl/254272 http://eve-files.com/dl/254273 http://eve-files.com/dl/254274 http://eve-files.com/dl/254275
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Delphina Amaranthus
Random Variable Ventures
2
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Posted - 2012.05.11 14:05:00 -
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Checked the Crusader and the Paladin in favorable light (Domain region)...that color still looks brown on both my monitors. If it's supposed to be red without my having to change the color balance on both my monitors (factory default LCDs from two different manufacturers and with two different panel technologies), please put MORE RED. |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2012.05.11 16:55:00 -
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The front of the guardian is just plain wrong. Why on earth is it black, the correct colour of such ships is Gold and red. And that's Gold, not yellow or beige or outright grey, or poor-empire's copper. Polished Gold. You are doing it very wrong if it is otherwise. Please try again/add the final coat and not just the primer.
I flew to Domain when these hit the test server, and put some pics on FHC. Even under that most white & bright of lighting, by a sun, these hulls are too dark and dull. In most other space they plain look bad.
This isn't Dust, we don't need latest FPS console gritty grey, this is EVE and spaceships that have been loved for being bold colours for almost a decade. And distinctive aesthetic styles - I'm looking at you, whoever's butchering the Gallente organic lines. |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars Academy
27
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Posted - 2012.05.11 21:57:00 -
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I like them, overall. A lot of it's just people crying about change. REALLY like the new Khanid stuff, now it all matches the SuperMaller.
I AM a bit concerned about the darkness of it all, though. Hard to make out the new details because you simply can't see ****. Hilariously, the dark black Khanid ships are now more easy to see than the other ships.
also, what's up with the tan Imperial Navy logos on the navy ships? Looks really out of place. (Yes I know that's the color the logo is traditionally; doesn't mean it should always be that color.) |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
159
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Posted - 2012.05.11 22:13:00 -
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The Guardian does indeed look bad. As much as I hate gold IRL, I hope they don't get rid of it in this game or muddy it up. On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
109
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Posted - 2012.05.12 01:39:00 -
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The Golden Fleet is now just lame-ass bronze. Keep tech 1 Amarr ships bright. |
Jiji Hamin
Aliastra Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.05.12 06:24:00 -
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i think they look extremely sexy. i also like how OP admitted that they needed to "train up" to even fly an amarrian T2 ships, which i find funny that they are bitching and moaning about ships they don't/can't fly.
also, about the logos: I am happy they did what they did. i think they did it for fluff reasons, but iirc the ship design firms have always been chartered by royal houses. i like that the caldari print their megacorporation logos like nation emblems, the gallente are tacky and nascar-like and the amarr show the royal house that chartered the ship. also, the royal house logos look ~way~ cooler than actual corp logos for those companies but yknow, whatevs.
i dislike alot of the **** ccp does/is doing, but i gotta hand it to them on the V3 amarr... they are everything that i had hoped for and more. |
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Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
1254
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Posted - 2012.05.12 09:33:00 -
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I really don't like the current Amarr textures on TQ right now, has always reminded me of those cheap oily golden plastic toys. Really liking the V3'd Amarr though, they actually look like metallic spacecraft and the gold highlights have a pretty realistic look to them with how they reflect the nebulae and their colour in general. Well at least on my computer anyway.
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Sarrein Razor
RazorCorporation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.12 12:32:00 -
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So much for the Amarrian Ships-.-
it might be just me, but i started as Amarr because they had something on them. They where shiney and bright and looked like they where send from heaven once.
The Navy Apocalypse used to be realy a golden vessel once. Now it's just a ship.
The (current) Paladin looks like i imagine a Amarrian Ship. Shiney and bright and proudly calling out: We are the choosen once to bring our faith to the stars.
The ships on TQ actually look like they want to hide themselfs in the shadows and the mudd. Doesnt fit with the background of the *Golden Fleet*, nor does it look any good.
Actually, they look how i would have expected the Minmatar to look like without all the rust on their vessels. So, another failure from ccp.
Not to mention that the inventory system is a slap in the face and a catastrophy to use it.
But thats typically CCP. We dont fix broken stuff, we fix stuff that doesnt need fixing and break it in the process. Good Job |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:02:00 -
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I think we have two things working against this
1. we have now this space that affects colors, that was prob not a good idea until the models where done and then well, they may have to go back to a neutral like source to make this work... point in case, my Rifter is "Pink" in Molden Heath - this is not a good look, as are the cane and all the minmatar ships.
2. We have new models coming in, they do look nice with the new color schemes, but they stand out as different more than complimentary to the existing hulls and colors, which are rather iconic with EVE ships.
Gold for Amarr Red for Minmatar Green for Gallente Blue for Caldari *sub factional obviously have their own schemes
This seemed to be the general rule, and while I would like to see more details, better colored skins and real gold on the Amarr, I don't particularly like the "brown-ness" we are starting to see, or the "funky" colors from the light boxes.
Will see how it goes, CCP can always tweek things here and there to get it right, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now on this as they are truly doing alot this patch, so will see... ultimately I spend so much time zoomed out in game after the undocking, I don't often see my ship... in any detail. it's all about the Frame Rate... |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.05.12 19:36:00 -
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Wow. That looks awesome! Do want! Signed: George Whitebread |
eXistentiA
Bacon.
52
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Posted - 2012.05.14 06:37:00 -
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Apart from the textures looking low res still, I love the colours! |
Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
84
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Posted - 2012.05.14 08:16:00 -
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The problem is, all changed texture is too dark need a bit lighter colors. |
Captain Praxis
EVE University Ivy League
19
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Posted - 2012.05.17 09:20:00 -
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Is it just me or does that new Paladin look like it's a Minmatar ship?
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Melina Lin
Universal Frog
27
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Posted - 2012.05.17 09:44:00 -
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Captain Praxis wrote:Is it just me or does that new Paladin look like it's a Minmatar ship?
It's covered in rust-proofing paint like all the other Carthum ships. |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
118
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Posted - 2012.05.17 15:00:00 -
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Hi all, I just wanted to chime in and explain that the Shader thatGÇÖs used will modulate the look of the red on the Sarum ships. That is why it is too dark for some and nice for others, that being said... we are aware and have been that the ships are slightly on the darker side.
This is something we've been looking into but canGÇÖt make any changes until ALL ships are V4'd as it would be a global change to all ships. I do not have any details on this other than we are looking into it.
I will however point one of the senior artists to this thread to look at the screenshots you have created for the Paladin.
CCP Vertex-á | -áArt Quality Assurance-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
167
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Posted - 2012.05.17 15:28:00 -
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So, what we see on Sisi now is what we will be stuck with until V4? This is very disappointing as some ships now look totally different. Look at the Guardian. The Amarr Gold has been replaced by brown Totally ruined. Unless the screen shots are off
Guardian - before http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/983/guardianbefore.png
Guardian - after http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6424/guard2.png On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
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Callic Veratar
Power of the Phoenix
229
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Posted - 2012.05.17 15:54:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:Hi all, I just wanted to chime in and explain that the Shader thatGÇÖs used will modulate the look of the red on the Sarum ships. That is why it is too dark for some and nice for others, that being said... we are aware and have been that the ships are slightly on the darker side.
This is something we've been looking into but canGÇÖt make any changes until ALL ships are V4'd as it would be a global change to all ships. I do not have any details on this other than we are looking into it.
I will however point one of the senior artists to this thread to look at the screenshots you have created for the Paladin.
Is V4 a typo or tessellated models? |
Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.05.17 16:46:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:...Sarum... Do you mean Carthum Conglomerate? Since, ya know, that's who the ship description says made the ship. You guys didn't V3 the wrong corp, did you?
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Retribution wrote:Developer: Carthum Conglomerate |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.05.17 17:13:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:we are aware and have been that the ships are slightly on the darker side.
This is something we've been looking into but canGÇÖt make any changes until ALL ships are V4'd as it would be a global change to all ships. I do not have any details on this other than we are looking into it. But if they're all too dark, then it'll only fix them sooner. Those that are V3'd will be corrected, those that aren't V3'd yet won't be affected, no? Or, at worse, it'll make the V3'd ones good, and the few remaining non-V3'd ones worse. But that's the minority now, so why not make the newer ones good rather than worse than the older ones? |
Toguri Iva
nXo Intrepid Crossing
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Tlat Ij wrote:CCP Vertex wrote:...Sarum... Do you mean Carthum Conglomerate? Since, ya know, that's who the ship description says made the ship. You guys didn't V3 the wrong corp, did you? http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Retribution wrote:Developer: Carthum Conglomerate
The only explanation for this is in the evelopedia:
Carthum
Viziam
You can see that Sarum family have 35% of shares from Carthum and Ardishapur family have 30% of shares from Viziam. Maybe this is the reason for the Sarum and Ardishapur corp emblems on TII Amarr ships.
You can see more information about this on this thread. |
Tlat Ij
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Toguri Iva wrote:You can see more information about this on this thread. That doesn't have more information though. It's just Vertex saying the Sarum colours have been switched around which should be completely irrelevant because the ships are made by Carthum, not Sarum. He also says they are "looking into" the logos which possibly means the logos are wrong. I just hope he got the corp name wrong and they didn't V3 the wrong paintjobs. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
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The thing I find interesting about this debate is that people are basing opinions on the SHADOW side of the PREVIEW window. The window where everything is badly lit and poorly coloured. Get the damnation, the paladin, the absolution, any of the V3 actually into space where the new shader layers function properly, and they are amazing looking. The absolution and damnation with nebulas and the light of the system's star glowing on it are absolutely fantastic! |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:44:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:The thing I find interesting about this debate is that people are basing opinions on the SHADOW side of the PREVIEW window. The window where everything is badly lit and poorly coloured. Get the damnation, the paladin, the absolution, any of the V3 actually into space where the new shader layers function properly, and they are amazing looking. The absolution and damnation with nebulas and the light of the system's star glowing on it are absolutely fantastic! Learn to read. I took them to Domain and took pics in space. CCP have just acknowledged that they're too damned dark.
And the Guardian front is still wrong. |
Mister Hig
Tribal Junkers
0
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:09:00 -
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In fact, except for purifier, it's not a V3 but a V2 bis, textures have not been changed only shaders. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:09:00 -
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space pics
brown http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7042/abaddon3.png
brown as **** http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4848/guardianafter.png
I hope these look better when they get released On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Lyron-Baktos
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I just find it hard to believe that someone approved updating the shaders knowing how it would impact the overall color of the ships. Now, if this would be fixed very quickly I can see it but if it takes a year or more to get the ships colors updated to where they need to be then that is poor planning.
Should have V3'd everything at once. Then got the colors right for everything at once. Then roll out the V3 project in quick, but staggered releases, say about a month. Then rolled out the color updates.
Unless nobody knew how the shaders would affect the appearance and in that case On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:30:00 -
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CCP Vertex wrote:Hi all, I just wanted to chime in and explain that the Shader thatGÇÖs used will modulate the look of the red on the Sarum ships. That is why it is too dark for some and nice for others, that being said... we are aware and have been that the ships are slightly on the darker side.
This is something we've been looking into but canGÇÖt make any changes until ALL ships are V4'd as it would be a global change to all ships. I do not have any details on this other than we are looking into it.
I will however point one of the senior artists to this thread to look at the screenshots you have created for the Paladin.
V4? Wat?
Good job on the V3ification of Amarr. It's looking great, and the only things that really need fixing are the manufacturer logos on ships.
Something that deserves looking into is the lighting discrepancy between the preview window, the ship hangar, and space. Ships like the Curse no longer have the shiny black look and feel in the former two, due to the lighting being far too bright, but in space they look amazing. I think this is responsible for a bunch of the complaints in this thread. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:43:00 -
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Adjust your color settings, that ship has no brown on it viewed in game. It is a Redwood or Maroon color.
I'm sure that eventually they will adjust things so that people that grow accustomed to their monitor/video card factory defaults (and leave them that way thinking they are accurate) will not mistakenly see a brown ship... and the over all brightness will be increased a bit.
Until that happens though, all joking aside, if you aren't seeing more than a bit of red in that ship it's time to use your video cards control panel to make some adjustments. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Lyron-Baktos
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Adjust your color settings, that ship has no brown on it viewed in game. It is a Redwood or Maroon color. I'm sure that eventually they will adjust things so that people that grow accustomed to their monitor/video card factory defaults (and leave them that way thinking they are accurate) will not mistakenly see a brown ship... and the over all brightness will be increased a bit. Until that happens though, all joking aside, if you aren't seeing more than a bit of red in that ship it's time to use your video cards control panel to make some adjustments.
not the red part. the gold part has been darkened/dulled so much it looks like brown. compare the before and after guardian pics and you can see the difference
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1909
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:11:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Adjust your color settings, that ship has no brown on it viewed in game. It is a Redwood or Maroon color. I'm sure that eventually they will adjust things so that people that grow accustomed to their monitor/video card factory defaults (and leave them that way thinking they are accurate) will not mistakenly see a brown ship... and the over all brightness will be increased a bit. Until that happens though, all joking aside, if you aren't seeing more than a bit of red in that ship it's time to use your video cards control panel to make some adjustments. not the red part. the gold part has been darkened/dulled so much it looks like brown. compare the before and after guardian pics and you can see the difference
On my screen in game it looks like a less reflective, darker/deeper shade of gold. Not brown.
I'm not trying to insult anyone, and the issue does need attention, but I'm sure these are being done on very accurately adjusted monitors when they are being worked on. They probably need to compensate for the fact that not everyone fine tunes their video color. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Lyron-Baktos
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hope you are right. the screenshots are basically the same on 2 different monitors I have. But you still have to admit, it is vastly different then the shiny red and gold we have now.
I do not want cartoony bright colors but then again, I don't want ships that look like they've been sitting in a junkyard for 20 years either collecting dust and getting tarnished On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:33:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Adjust your color settings, that ship has no brown on it viewed in game. It is a Redwood or Maroon color. I'm sure that eventually they will adjust things so that people that grow accustomed to their monitor/video card factory defaults (and leave them that way thinking they are accurate) will not mistakenly see a brown ship... and the over all brightness will be increased a bit. Until that happens though, all joking aside, if you aren't seeing more than a bit of red in that ship it's time to use your video cards control panel to make some adjustments. not the red part. the gold part has been darkened/dulled so much it looks like brown. compare the before and after guardian pics and you can see the difference I disagree, gold on the Abaddon looks amazing compared to current IMHO. Could probably stand to be a bit lighter but is still quite an improvement. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:53:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:hope you are right. the screenshots are basically the same on 2 different monitors I have. But you still have to admit, it is vastly different then the shiny red and gold we have now.
I do not want cartoony bright colors but then again, I don't want ships that look like they've been sitting in a junkyard for 20 years either collecting dust and getting tarnished
If it is the same on both of your monitors, then it is likely your video card that needs a little tweaking. Usually there are gamma settings in the cards control panel that you can adjust. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Lyron-Baktos
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Ranger 1 wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:hope you are right. the screenshots are basically the same on 2 different monitors I have. But you still have to admit, it is vastly different then the shiny red and gold we have now.
I do not want cartoony bright colors but then again, I don't want ships that look like they've been sitting in a junkyard for 20 years either collecting dust and getting tarnished If it is the same on both of your monitors, then it is likely your video card that needs a little tweaking. Usually there are gamma settings in the cards control panel that you can adjust.
two different computers. one at work and one at home.
I will admit that I like my colors a bit bright at home and have the gamma set either super high or super low, can't remember.
I'll play around with it later see if i can improve it
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Galega Ori
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
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Posted - 2012.05.19 16:57:00 -
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Zimmy Zeta wrote:The new Navy Apoc has an Amarrian symbol at the bow that looks like an eye. This makes the whole front of the ship look like an evil, open mouth either laughing at the enemies or about to devour them. I would totally pay aurum to get this effect enhanced by a painted sharkmouth..... edit: this is what I meansecond edit: quick and dirty apoc sharkmouth concept
The Navy Apoc skin is not new, the basic Apoc skin is not new either as both are already on Tranquility since the last patch.
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