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Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:29:00 -
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Atm all systems with an industry upgrade have all abc's availeble. Eve is better off if there are only the ores availbe in gravi sites which naturaly spawns in the astroid belts. This was before a resource that was worth fighting over. Systems with good true sec are valuable now with anomalies, with change this also by rich ores in future.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:34:00 -
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why not. |
Fish Hunter
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:54:00 -
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This would be good. Are you suggesting only local ores available at all levels or certain ores become available at each upgrade level. |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:12:00 -
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Fish Hunter wrote:This would be good. Are you suggesting only local ores available at all levels or certain ores become available at each upgrade level.
only local ores available at all levels |
Im Super Gay
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.03 22:16:00 -
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What about w-space? |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:05:00 -
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Im Super Gay wrote:What about w-space?
do not rly know, i gues wspaxe is dangerous to mine in. C1-3 no abcm, above they do? |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:22:00 -
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Not entirely convinced. I don't think Miners need yet another reason not to bother going to nullsec.
I thought the general idea was to promote the idea of miners getting out of high sec and into null. This would just mean that a lot of miners would avoid null in favour of WHs.
It's hard enough as it is to keep the mining index up in a nullsec system. I'm not sure it needs to be nerfed. |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.04 11:50:00 -
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Tchulen wrote: It's hard enough as it is to keep the mining index up in a nullsec system. I'm not sure it needs to be nerfed.
not rly, infact you have to do nothing to get a good amount of abc's in system. I do not know the exact amount of mining hours to keep each industry level (and sites) up. I also do not know the exact numbers of quantity of minerals at each size gravi belt (small, med, large ect).
Does someone know this? |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:08:00 -
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Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:Tchulen wrote: It's hard enough as it is to keep the mining index up in a nullsec system. I'm not sure it needs to be nerfed.
not rly, infact you have to do nothing to get a good amount of abc's in system. I do not know the exact amount of mining hours to keep each industry level (and sites) up. I also do not know the exact numbers of quantity of minerals at each size gravi belt (small, med, large ect). Does someone know this?
how can you make that judgement call when you dont know what it takes or is provided?
also isn't all wh space truesec? |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:35:00 -
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I don't have the exact figures but having been in an alliance and part of a the group attempting to get the mining index up I can assure you that it isn't easy and it drops off pretty sharply if left for a few days.
Mind you, that was some time ago and I don't know whether CCP have altered the rates since then. |
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:38:00 -
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Caldari Citizen20110707 wrote:I know nothing about the subject, but I still feel that lower truesec systems should be penalized and worse in every possible way. Likely because my main happens to be in a good truesec system and want the high-end mineral market even more inflated than it currently is so I can make more ISK
The entire point of the system upgrades was to make the worse truesec systems more usable and more on par with the better truesec systems, so that they weren't just permanently trash. You have provided no reasons why the current systems should change, you even freely admit that you don't know the current system, so we are left to believe that your only motive for proposing the change is because you think it will make you more ISK.
tl;dr: No |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
104
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:56:00 -
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You realy want to break eve economy? Remove all ships from the market?
Srry... CCP is goig the other way... They will put Moon minerals everywhere ( planetary rings) and probably ICE everywhere (grav sites)... so small aliances will be able to build up an economy in 0.0 and more people will go to 0.0, and they will be able to live in 0.0 without depending on Hi-sec.... |
Fish Hunter
Blacksteel Mining and Manufacturing Renaissance Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:11:00 -
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I would like to see a system that rewards upgrading the index while keeping truesec the best. Add 4 more grav sites to the current 5 to make 9. There are 5 security bands with anomalies so use these for grav sites as well. So have the 9 grav sites increae in quality and the lowest securtiy band could get sites 1-5 and the highest get sites 5-9. ABCM should all be available by level 4 starting off with the worst security. This would make all security levels good for mining and make the best security the best for mining. |
Spikeflach
Echo's of Liberty Dominatus Atrum Mortis
8
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:39:00 -
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1500000m3 of ore needs to be mined in one day to get the index to 1, 3,000,000m3 to level 2, 6,000,000m3 level 3, 12,000,000 level 4, and 24,000,000 level 5.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1006/Bloodtear_Industy_Index_Report.pdf
unless the mineral values have skyrocketed more than they have, making truesec dictate the ores in the indy upgraded grav sites will further reduce the amount of isk mining characters make in 0.0.
the low end systems upgraded for ratting will give more isk per hour from ratting than mining in 0.0. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:15:00 -
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As someone with giant personal reserves of high end minerals I thoroughly support this proposal.
Oh and game balance, competition rabble rabble rabble.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Caldari Citizen20110707
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:42:00 -
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Fish Hunter wrote:I would like to see a system that rewards upgrading the index while keeping truesec the best. Add 4 more grav sites to the current 5 to make 9. There are 5 security bands with anomalies so use these for grav sites as well. So have the 9 grav sites increae in quality and the lowest securtiy band could get sites 1-5 and the highest get sites 5-9. ABCM should all be available by level 4 starting off with the worst security. This would make all security levels good for mining and make the best security the best for mining.
this is perfect as it force people to defend the ops. Ops will get clustered, attrackting pvp, afk cloakers, small gangs ect. |
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